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Guy Calls Out Vegan Sister For “Forcing An Entire Family To Adopt Her Choices”, Internet Is Split
Guy Calls Out Vegan Sister For “Forcing An Entire Family To Adopt Her Choices”, Internet Is Split
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We all have different tastes, which might make hosting a big dinner quite a challenging task; even more so if there are food-related personal beliefs or dietary restrictions involved.

Personal beliefs are the reason this redditor was voted a [jerk] by the AITA community, after he asked his vegan sister to serve more than just vegan dishes during the family reunion. Even though he said he respects her beliefs, the OP was fearful that other family members might not be too happy about it. Scroll down for the full story.

Bored Panda turned to registered dietitian-nutritionist Jane Burrell to learn more about the vegan diet, and she was kind enough to answer a few of our questions. You can find her thoughts in the text below.

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    Cooking for people with different tastes and dietary preferences is in no way an easy task

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    This redditor asked his vegan sister not to stick to vegan food only during the family reunion she was hosting

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    Image credits: Alex Green (not the actual photo)

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    The OP provided an update answering some of the redditors’ questions

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    Veganism seems to be picking up speed popularity wise

    Veganism is a diet that has experienced a quite significant increase in popularity over the last ten years, Healthline reports. Based on not using products of animal origin because of ethical, health, or environmental reasons, this type of diet saw an increase of as much as 350% in the number of people following it in the past decade.

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    According to registered dietitian-nutritionist Jane Burrell, a vegan diet can be very healthy and nourishing, with some extra consideration and planning. “There are many advantages to following a plant-based diet including having rich sources of vitamins, minerals, fiber, and healthy unsaturated fats that are associated with lower risks of chronic disease,” she told Bored Panda in a recent interview.

    “However, there are some nutrients that may be more difficult to obtain from a vegan diet including iron, calcium, vitamin D, vitamin B12, omega-3 fats and sometimes protein. By selecting a variety of foods, including soy (for complete proteins), nuts and seeds (omega 3 fats) and using products fortified with iron, calcium, vitamin D and vitamin B12, nutrient needs can be met.”

    Be that as it may, the expert pointed out that eating habits are personal and many styles of eating can be healthy. “It is important to allow for this individuality and support each other,” she said, adding that if a vegan is present at a big dinner, it might be a good idea to consider foods that are already vegan—such as salads—or swapping certain ingredients.

    “Simple swaps like using a vegetable stock instead of chicken stock can be a way to keep the flavor and make a favorite dish vegan and using avocados instead of cheese can provide a creamy texture without using dairy,” she suggested.

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    People have different reasons for opting for a vegan diet, animal well-being reportedly being the most common one

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    Based on statistics regarding veganism, quite a few people don’t seem bothered by having to swap certain ingredients or make sure their food is nutritious enough. Veganuary—“the global organization encouraging people to try vegan in January and beyond,” as they present themselves—has reportedly reached a new height this year with more than 700,000 people signing up for their initiative for the month of January. The number, comprising individuals from 228 countries, is believed to be even higher as arguably not all people who’ve decided to take part in Veganuary signed up on the official website.

    The statistics from the website’s survey revealed that the main reason for people to try going vegan was animal well-being (it was the main motivating force for roughly 40% of them), followed by personal health (21%) and the environment (18%).

    Veganuary also revealed that one fourth of the participants decided to stay vegan even after January ended. Their main arguments for that were the fact that they got to learn more about veganism—something the OP’s sister hoped the family members would do after trying her vegan dishes—as well as improved health and it simply being easier than they expected.

    Quite a few companies and restaurants offer vegan options nowadays

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    It’s likely that some people didn’t find the Veganuary initiative to be too big of a challenge because of a growing choice of vegan foods out there. Take restaurants, for instance; IBIS World 2022 data shows that in the US, there has been a nearly 3% increase in the number of vegetarian and vegan eateries—currently standing at nearly 27,000—compared to only a year before.

    Statistics suggest that the vegan food market in the US, worth 40.1 billion in 2022, is expected to grow to reach 91.9 billion by 2027. Such estimates are likely based on people’s interest in vegan foods, which is apparent after taking a look at Google search trends. They reveal that throughout the year 2022, Americans were the ones to look up “vegan food” online the most, followed by people from the UK and Australia.

    It’s not only people that are showing interest in veganism, as more and more well-known brands introduce vegan-friendly options as well. For instance, back in 2021, the British confectionery company, Cadbury, launched their Cadbury plant-based vegan chocolate bar, while Ben & Jerry’s, the legendary ice cream manufacturer, has been making non-dairy pints since 2016.

    Even some of the well-known fast food chains, such as McDonald’s or Burger King, have introduced vegan options over the years. Yet even with all sorts of vegan-friendly products out there, only a small percentage of society nowadays follows the vegan diet. According to Statista, in June of this year, 4% of Americans were living a vegan lifestyle.

    Based on Veganuary’s data, it’s pretty safe to assume that people might find a vegan diet more appealing or easier to follow than they think, at least for one night. And even though the OP’s sister seemingly decided to compromise and allow family members to bring non-vegan dishes that don’t contain meat, she wasn’t willing to serve them herself.

    Some people considered the redditor the [jerk] in this situation

    Others believed the OP wasn’t in the wrong

    Some netizens thought that no one was actually a [jerk] here

    Guy Calls Out Vegan Sister For “Forcing An Entire Family To Adopt Her Choices”, Internet Is Split

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    Miglė Miliūtė

    Miglė Miliūtė

    Writer, Community member

    A writer here at Bored Panda, I am a lover of good music, good food, and good company, which makes food-related topics and feel-good stories my favorite ones to cover. Passionate about traveling and concerts, I constantly seek occasions to visit places yet personally unexplored. I also enjoy spending free time outdoors, trying out different sports—even if I don’t look too graceful at it—or socializing over a cup of coffee.

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    Caro Caro
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's one meal ffs. Try new things, tickle your tastebuds, don't be an idiot.

    marcelo D.
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    look, yes and no. I would definetly try something new if I went, but, this is important, She demands conssesions be made for her, and then doesn't return that in kind, which makes her an a*****e, cause she believes there should be special rules just for her.

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    Kajsa Partanen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What exactly do people think vegan food is?? Are they picturing a table filled with nothing but tofu? I have been to a three-course vegan dinner. Starter was leek-and-potato soup with croutons. Main was mushroom lasagna (delicious!). Dessert was fried bananas with ice cream. If I hadn't known beforehand that it was all vegan I wouldn't have seen anything strange with what was served. No-one left hungry.

    Fun Fan
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The point is the respect, what this vegan sister didn't gave for her family, despite she got respect, when her family made extra vegan dishes just for her. The point is not about the food.

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    The Other Guest
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ::pinches bridge of nose:: OK, the rule is NOT "We made vegan for you, therefore you must make food with animal products for us!" It's "A good host ensures that every guest has something they can eat." As long as she's taking food allergies into consideration, there's nothing wrong with serving a full-vegan meal to someone who isn't vegan. I'm willing to bet that all the "shoving veganism down our throats" people wouldn't blink an eye if they were served bruschetta made with olive oil, spaghetti with mushrooms in marinara, a green salad with vinagrette, and sorbet for dessert. But point out that it's vegan and they'd be clutching their pearls.

    Rhonda West
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you. This is the point I wanted to make, but I was having difficulty not using swear words. Seriously, why is this an issue? Is it just the word vegan that gets their knickers in a twist?

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    Miss Kat O
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad decided to do vegetarian xmas one year, because he decided that mass turkey sacrifice was unchristian... I was all for it, but god didnt my brother throw his toys out the pram.

    Roan The Demon Kitty
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had a few vegan/veggie christmas dinners now. Absolutely love a nut roast with a port and cranberry gravy/sauce. Now I'm hungry.

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    Kat Lyle
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you can't deal with one meal without meat, you need to reassess your own lifestyle and consider going to a fast food place on the way back. I say back because vegan food has massively surprised me at how filling it can be. It's one meal.

    DC
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can never accomodate people of that kind. Fat Harry has it with vegans, and it shows. You could slaughter a cow right on his plate, and even then, he would find something to complain about and link it to veganism. Because he wants to, and seems to see a fit target for his hate.

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    DrBronxx
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Given that for many people, veganism is an ideological choice, I naturally came to the conclusion (as have many others) that if you are eating in a vegan's home, you are going to eat vegan food. If my friend is vegan because they think meat is murder, I am sure as s**t not going to make them, nor would I expect them to, prepare any meat / dairy / etc. at all.

    Lara Verne
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I see no issue, it just seems that this guy and his family are bunch of drama queens. It's only one meal, she's not forcing them to change their entire lifestyle.

    Adam Belaire
    Community Member
    2 years ago

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    What if the roles were reversed and they cook only meat for her. It's the same "one meal" and not "forcing them to change their lifestyle" Would there still be no issue?

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    Roan The Demon Kitty
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its one f*****g meal, get over it and try something new. Vegan food can (and is) be amazing. It's 2023 and there is PLENTY of vegan alternatives that honestly don't taste that different to the real thing. Here's just an example of a recent vegan meal I did: Starter - Spiced vegetable soup (a spiced broth with vegetables like bean sprouts, cabbage, radish (soaks up flavour amazingly) etc) , main - mushroom and "pretend chicken" pie with vegan potato's dauphinoise, and for desert, a vegan carrot cake. All delicious, and no complaints from "meat eating" guests, because they're not children unlike the OP here.

    Fat Harry
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited)

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    No, it's the principle, not the food. I don't mind some vegan food, but I object to having it forced on me because you want to make some asinine point. And by the way "It's 2023 and there is PLENTY of vegan alternatives that honestly don't taste that different to the real thing." is utter b******t. Vegan substitutes ALWAYS taste like substitutes. Your guests were just being polite.

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    Tabitha
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If OP’s sister just hadn’t mentioned it was “her chance to showcase veganism”, as if she’s trying to hardsell it to them, I would’ve been 100% on her side. But she said it, so she exposed her real motive for hosting, as well as refusing to return the favor to everyone who accommodated HER dietary choices when she was their guest by offering some non-vegan alternatives. Making sure their guests are comfortable and happy and not feeling like they’re being forcefully recruited into a vegan cult or MLM company is what hosts are supposed to do, even if those guests are “just” family. I mean is it really any skin off her a*s to include foods her relatives prefer—- that she can order in ready-made so she doesn’t even have to touch meat? If other people did it for her, and she still bitches about it and tries to force them to eat 100% vegan food, I’ll give you three guesses exactly who will no longer be accommodated herself, and the first two don’t count.

    Fat Harry
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. All the people saying "it's one meal!!" are completely missing the point.

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    Tracy Wallick
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A vegan cook is buying, preparing and hosting a meal, the guests know that they are a vegan, and people are surprised when the food is vegan?

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    Caro Caro
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's one meal ffs. Try new things, tickle your tastebuds, don't be an idiot.

    marcelo D.
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    look, yes and no. I would definetly try something new if I went, but, this is important, She demands conssesions be made for her, and then doesn't return that in kind, which makes her an a*****e, cause she believes there should be special rules just for her.

    Load More Replies...
    Kajsa Partanen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What exactly do people think vegan food is?? Are they picturing a table filled with nothing but tofu? I have been to a three-course vegan dinner. Starter was leek-and-potato soup with croutons. Main was mushroom lasagna (delicious!). Dessert was fried bananas with ice cream. If I hadn't known beforehand that it was all vegan I wouldn't have seen anything strange with what was served. No-one left hungry.

    Fun Fan
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The point is the respect, what this vegan sister didn't gave for her family, despite she got respect, when her family made extra vegan dishes just for her. The point is not about the food.

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    The Other Guest
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ::pinches bridge of nose:: OK, the rule is NOT "We made vegan for you, therefore you must make food with animal products for us!" It's "A good host ensures that every guest has something they can eat." As long as she's taking food allergies into consideration, there's nothing wrong with serving a full-vegan meal to someone who isn't vegan. I'm willing to bet that all the "shoving veganism down our throats" people wouldn't blink an eye if they were served bruschetta made with olive oil, spaghetti with mushrooms in marinara, a green salad with vinagrette, and sorbet for dessert. But point out that it's vegan and they'd be clutching their pearls.

    Rhonda West
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you. This is the point I wanted to make, but I was having difficulty not using swear words. Seriously, why is this an issue? Is it just the word vegan that gets their knickers in a twist?

    Load More Replies...
    Miss Kat O
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad decided to do vegetarian xmas one year, because he decided that mass turkey sacrifice was unchristian... I was all for it, but god didnt my brother throw his toys out the pram.

    Roan The Demon Kitty
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had a few vegan/veggie christmas dinners now. Absolutely love a nut roast with a port and cranberry gravy/sauce. Now I'm hungry.

    Load More Replies...
    Kat Lyle
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you can't deal with one meal without meat, you need to reassess your own lifestyle and consider going to a fast food place on the way back. I say back because vegan food has massively surprised me at how filling it can be. It's one meal.

    DC
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can never accomodate people of that kind. Fat Harry has it with vegans, and it shows. You could slaughter a cow right on his plate, and even then, he would find something to complain about and link it to veganism. Because he wants to, and seems to see a fit target for his hate.

    Load More Replies...
    DrBronxx
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Given that for many people, veganism is an ideological choice, I naturally came to the conclusion (as have many others) that if you are eating in a vegan's home, you are going to eat vegan food. If my friend is vegan because they think meat is murder, I am sure as s**t not going to make them, nor would I expect them to, prepare any meat / dairy / etc. at all.

    Lara Verne
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I see no issue, it just seems that this guy and his family are bunch of drama queens. It's only one meal, she's not forcing them to change their entire lifestyle.

    Adam Belaire
    Community Member
    2 years ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    What if the roles were reversed and they cook only meat for her. It's the same "one meal" and not "forcing them to change their lifestyle" Would there still be no issue?

    Load More Replies...
    Roan The Demon Kitty
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its one f*****g meal, get over it and try something new. Vegan food can (and is) be amazing. It's 2023 and there is PLENTY of vegan alternatives that honestly don't taste that different to the real thing. Here's just an example of a recent vegan meal I did: Starter - Spiced vegetable soup (a spiced broth with vegetables like bean sprouts, cabbage, radish (soaks up flavour amazingly) etc) , main - mushroom and "pretend chicken" pie with vegan potato's dauphinoise, and for desert, a vegan carrot cake. All delicious, and no complaints from "meat eating" guests, because they're not children unlike the OP here.

    Fat Harry
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited)

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    No, it's the principle, not the food. I don't mind some vegan food, but I object to having it forced on me because you want to make some asinine point. And by the way "It's 2023 and there is PLENTY of vegan alternatives that honestly don't taste that different to the real thing." is utter b******t. Vegan substitutes ALWAYS taste like substitutes. Your guests were just being polite.

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    Tabitha
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If OP’s sister just hadn’t mentioned it was “her chance to showcase veganism”, as if she’s trying to hardsell it to them, I would’ve been 100% on her side. But she said it, so she exposed her real motive for hosting, as well as refusing to return the favor to everyone who accommodated HER dietary choices when she was their guest by offering some non-vegan alternatives. Making sure their guests are comfortable and happy and not feeling like they’re being forcefully recruited into a vegan cult or MLM company is what hosts are supposed to do, even if those guests are “just” family. I mean is it really any skin off her a*s to include foods her relatives prefer—- that she can order in ready-made so she doesn’t even have to touch meat? If other people did it for her, and she still bitches about it and tries to force them to eat 100% vegan food, I’ll give you three guesses exactly who will no longer be accommodated herself, and the first two don’t count.

    Fat Harry
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. All the people saying "it's one meal!!" are completely missing the point.

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    Tracy Wallick
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A vegan cook is buying, preparing and hosting a meal, the guests know that they are a vegan, and people are surprised when the food is vegan?

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