SusanS didn't say in any way that animals are different from humans. They said DOLPHINS. While yes, humans are animals, humans are not dolphins. They were saying that dolphins emulate humans because humans do the same horrible things some dolphins do, like rape.

@Chloe [1] So, dolphins are climbing up the embankment, pulling out their binoculars, taking notes, then diving back into the deep and "EMULATING" us? Why not the other way around? Why are we not emulating dolphins? Is it because we are supposed to be magnificent? Human vanity inspires admiration from dolphins? The universe revolves around us? Or Susan? You? || ĕm′yə-lāt" transitive verb - To strive to equal or excel, especially through imitation. || I know perfectly well what she said. You demonstrated that you don't. Obviously the explanation is necessary. Emulate does not mean resemble. The particular wording implies intention, and specifically an intention to mimic. She does not identify her natural heritage. She did not say humans do what dolphins do. She explicitly stated that dolphins -EMULATE- (copy, mimic, aspire to be like) humans - through the act of rape. The particularly way she expresses her mind, the same, old, tired, nauseating sentiment reveals that she believes human beings to be the original sinner, corrupting everything in it's vicinity. Ridiculous, right? Further still, the insinuation is of a male behaviour. And while it is understandable in animals, why is it not similarly understood in human beings? And don't confuse what I just said with condoning or supporting the behaviour, but think of it this way: when you chastise the child and tell it "no" without allowing it to -UNDERSTAND- why not, then it often encourages them. Doesn't it? Now, imagine, for example, how many children have been needlessly raped because the people who do such things are observantly aware that to admit to such behaviour will necessarily result in their punishment and demonisation, and so become entrapped within a cycle of guilt and coverup and repeating the act. And again, don't confuse what I said. I don't condone or support sexual interference with minors by adults, and it is something very close to home for me, but when you understand even the basics about human psychology this fact presents a huge problem. Doesn't it? Especially when you consider how casual people are about "othering" people, as this woman is subtly doing. And especially when you consider that the act doesn't necessarily need to be the traumatic experience, even though it is not appropriate and can obviously sometimes be extremely traumatic. But, sometimes it is the reaction and shock expressed in relation to the act by the people in the peripheral that creates the trauma.

And this, my friends, is what happens when a dumb person attempts to seem intelligent.

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@Chloe [3] So, not only can she not distinguish this as a normal behaviour, not just of mammals but of all animals, but she also can not separate human morality from animal behaviour

@Chloe [2] Here's another example: BPD. Borderline Personality Disorder. Not so long ago it was an "untreatable" condition. People diagnosed with it had no help, therapists were taught that they were unsalvagable, and even taught it is best not to even tell them of the diagnosis. There was simply no hope for them, and the therapist should run for the hills. These people were social pariahs. This is still often taught, occurring with relatively common frequency, and the social stigma is still as alive and pernicious as ever. More recently, however, this has changed. Of particular importance was the work of one woman who herself had BPD. She devised CBT - cognitive behavioural therapy. This is now the standard treatment, and it has something like an 80% success rate. When it works, that person doesn't simply learn to manage their behaviour, but they eventually no longer qualify for that diagnosis. So, now it is understood this way (a common scenario but not always the case): these people, formerly unredeemable, are now recognised as having experienced repeated and ongoing significant trauma during childhood, often from a primary caregiver (then usually the mother) who is unpredictable in demonstrating nurture and negligence, love and abuse. As a result, they don't learn certain social strategies that are otherwise considered normal and standard. So, they don't fit in. Their peers are intuitively aware that they don't fit in, and they themselves are agonizingly aware that they don't fit in, further missing opportunities to develop as a child normally would as a result. And they struggle maintaining a false identity, not sure who they are, because they constantly had to wear a mask to armour themselves against an unpredictable caregiver. They may learn to manipulate and seduce, or to be excessively submissive and prone to withdrawal. Interestingly, the same therapy is also now the standard treatment for acute PTSD. It is considered that BPD is akin to acute PTSD, with the difference being that acute PTSD results from usually a single or sometimes several significant traumas over a short period, while BPD results from sometimes severe but often seemingly minor but chronic emotional and maybe physical trauma, particularly during the earlier stages of social development. They attempt to cover for their shortcomings, of which they are partially aware but do not clearly comprehend, and this compounds the problem, their inability to comprehend their shortcomings though they are aware of them, requiring more masking, reminding them of their shortcomings, and on and on, builds layers upon layers of "scar tissue" around the injury. They are ostracised as they don't fit in, and this ostracisation triggers the behaviour. The behaviour inspires the ostracisation. And on it goes, without end. One person shook hands with their "shadow", an aspect of our animal nature that we all share, the rapist and murderer in each and every one of us, including the latent rapist and murderer in you, Chloe, and the latent rapist and murderer in, tisk tisk, Susan, and that person put their arm around their "shadow" and helped themselves up, then walking hand-in-hand with their "shadow" went into the lives of others, showing some understanding and helped them to learn how to redeem themselves from a cruel fate, often fatal in outcome, that they never chose and never deserved. Changed countless lives. Not just for the individual, but for everyone around them. And to emphasise just how much difference one person showing some understanding has made, or how many people maintaining an aversion to understanding, shunning the "shadow", fearing their nakedness and their shame, continue to make: also previously, BPD was considered a woman's mental illness. Men who qualified for a diagnosis of BPD were frequently misdiagnosed with antisocial disorder, further ostracised and wrongly labeled as violent and dangerous for their emotional outbursts, often ending up in jail, estranged from their children, or dead by suicide or overdose or similar. While females qualifying for a diagnosis of antisocial disorder - then considered a male mental disorder - were incorrectly diagnosed with BPD, and probably put on medication, but continuing to wreak havoc, the true extent of their issues never being addressed. This has lessened, but still happens frequently. Not everyone will be redeemable, at least not today, but do you now understand why this sort of puritanical judgementalism is damaging and dangerous, and how far such asinine cynicism can reach? Consider it in these terms: how many individuals, women, children, and men, does one puritanical remark rape? So, I reiterate and paraphrase: we are upright walking apes, barely having shed our tails, having moments before fallen from the trees, and our behaviours, our beliefs, our attitudes and fears show it. Not just in that we rape, but in that we see the worst of ourselves in the other before us and make a vicarious effort to eradicate it. Outwardly. Rarely befriending it, helping it up, and allowing its redemption, allowing it to fulfill its role as a part of the whole. Anti-holistic. Anti-wholesome. They're just. f*****g. dolphins. They're like dogs of the ocean. Imagine lamenting the morality of dogs for humping someone's leg... F*****g idiotic. She could be lamenting how spiders devour their sexual partners, or how cats will eat their young. But certain ideological concepts have hijacked her mind.

In your other comments, you told someone to get a hobby. Who needs a hobby now? Damn I'm low-key impressed ya typed all this, spent this time on it, and still thought you should post. In your immortal words. Get a hobby man

I have never seen a comment this insanely long. Jesus Christ. Do you not have a life or something?

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I watched a nature video where two orcas played catch with a terrified young seal. For fun. Before killing it. Creepy.

They also do that to penguïns. They are very creepy.

I you the criminal

I now am devoting myself to making fun of people who make points this dumb, as well as Dolphin Religion.

I am sure the morality of any being is based on the individual of a species, not the entirety. Some dolphins do/may have a similar moral compass to the more moral humans - you have no way to determine they don't. Saying it's fact and using that as the reason for me to believe you...that's just hilarious, and that's a fact!