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Woman Upset Over Her Daughter’s School Offering Only Halal Meat From Now On, Rants Online

Woman Upset Over Her Daughter’s School Offering Only Halal Meat From Now On, Rants Online

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Many people have food preferences, but some also deal with dietary restrictions due to allergies or other health conditions. Needless to say, these restrictions usually significantly limit the variety of meals an individual might enjoy.

One of these people is the OP’s daughter, who is both dairy and gluten intolerant. Recently, her school switched to serving only halal meat, which her mom doesn’t allow her to eat. Now, the girl’s options are so limited that she basically has only one meal there. So, her mom turned to the internet to ask whether it was unreasonable for her to want non-halal meat options at school.

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Having dietary restrictions significantly limits a person’s food choices, and when preferences are added into the mix, the options can become virtually non-existent

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The author of today’s post is unhappy that her daughter’s school now serves only halal meat, which she thinks is cruel to offer to her girl

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The girl also has dairy and gluten intolerance, which already limits the foods she can eat

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Now, since she’s unable to eat halal meat, the daughter can only eat one meal, so her mom went online to ask whether expecting non-halal meat options is so terrible

The school of the original poster’s daughter offers only halal meat options for lunch. The word “halal” describes everything that is allowed under the teachings of Islam, thus halal meat is permissible for Muslims to eat. 

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You might wonder: what makes this meat so special that Muslims are permitted to eat only it? Well, what differentiates it from other meats is the method of slaughter. Before slaughter, animals need to be raised in humane and hygienic conditions, and fed only vegetarian food and grass. 

Then, a method called “dhabihah” is used. Basically, it involves making a swift and deep incision in the animal’s throat with a sharp knife, cutting the trachea, jugular veins, and carotid arteries while leaving the spinal cord intact. Only one animal can be slaughtered at a time, as others cannot witness the death. While all of this is being done, the butcher must call upon Allah’s name for each animal. 

The OP views this slaughter method as overly cruel and doesn’t want her child to eat meat obtained this way. Some would agree that it is a cruel method, but others might disagree. 

They would say that this kind of slaughter can be as humane as it is conventional, as long as it’s performed properly. In fact, some might even say that it can be more humane, as the quick act of slitting the animal’s throat doesn’t leave any time for them to feel pain. Contrary to the conventional methods, where animals are stunned before butchering, there’s no guarantee that they won’t feel the pain. 

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Well, seeing as there are different views on this, we can’t agree with or debunk the OP’s stance. What we can do is acknowledge how she feels. In her post, she also said that her views do not, in any way, discuss the healthiness of halal meat. Well, if she doesn’t want to discuss that in her post, then neither will we. 

Apart from all of this, the author’s daughter is both dairy and gluten intolerant, which limits her options for lunch even further. Typically, foods that don’t contain either of those ingredients are meat, fish, fruits and veggies, potatoes, rice, corn, or anything labeled “gluten-free and dairy-free.” 

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In school, the girl can’t eat meat, because, as we acknowledged, it is halal, and her mom doesn’t like it. Then, knowing that school cafeterias don’t offer every single known food, her options are very limited. Actually, the only meal she can eat every day is a jacket potato with beans. 

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Eating the same thing over and over again is not only boring but can be bad for your health, too. Our gut microbiomes need a variety of foods to achieve a healthy balance. Plus, a lack of diversity can lead to nutrient deficiencies, as the body wouldn’t get enough of the necessary vitamins, minerals, protein, and healthy fats. 

So, all of this combined is the reason why this girl’s mom became this post’s OP. She vented about halal meat being the only option at school and asked whether her wishing there would be more choices made her unreasonable. 

There were a few people who said she wasn’t being unreasonable and their justification was that, since they don’t live in Muslim countries, they should have an option for non-halal meat. They also argued that, since the girl has specific dietary restrictions, she should have a special menu catered to her. 

Others said that the woman shouldn’t expect the school to cater to every single kid’s food preferences, as it would cost way too much. And even if they did provide non-halal meat, it likely wouldn’t be any more ethical. 

Some suggested the mom prepare lunches at home instead of relying on the school’s cafeteria, but she said that she has tried that and it didn’t work – the girl didn’t eat her lunch, possibly due to sensory issues. 

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This leaves the situation kind of unresolved. Some people think it’s reasonable to expect schools to cater to a specific child’s diet, while others don’t. Just as many things in life – the answer depends on the person. We just hope that this mom will find a way to diversify her daughter’s school lunches, even if that means it’s without meat.

Some people online thought it was logical for her to expect that, while others pointed out that it’s unrealistic to expect schools to cater to every single student

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Ace
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I suspect more of a motivation than animal welfare here. If the mom really cared she'd be more upset by the much worse conditions that factory produced chickens are kept in, compared with the much higher welfare standards required for Halal.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Conventional" livestock is slaughtered in basically the same way in Western culture - the cow or pig is hoisted up by a hind leg and a blade is used to slice the animal's neck (arteries/veins) to kill it via bleeding it to death. That's EXACTLY how halal meat animals are killed - cut with a blade in order to bleed it to death. OP is so self-righteous about how she feels about halal slaughter when it's not all that different from how Western cultures slaughter livestock. The only difference is that in conventional slaughter, the animal is (theoretically) stunned before its throat is cut (via a bolt fired into its skull, via gassing it, or via electrical shock) but there's plenty of cited studies/proof out there that show that stunning is rarely perfect and sometimes the animal is NOT unconscious/stunned when it's slaughtered. If slaughtering an animal in a halal fashion is "wrong", then ALL slaughter is wrong, since we can't guarantee that the animal doesn't feel pain as it dies.

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Ben Aziza
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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Halal method of slaughter has always disturbed me as a Muslim kid. I saw it first hand... Sad to see so many ppl so misinformed in the comments down here. The animals have their throats slit and they thrash around in pain for minutes before they die... Yhe it is not pleasant... Currently in europe most countries employ an instant kill method with a lethal sock or a bolt to the brain stem. Instant death so fast that the nerves do no have time to shoot pain signals... BECAUSE LAWS have been put in place to reduce animal cruelty (More still needs to be done tho with the farming methods) As a Muslim apostate myself I ask. Why is Islamophobia bad? I don't understand it. Why defend something you are not informed about? It is compassion? Compassion for my fellow humans is why i left Islam... Seeing how women are treated. How gay ppl are prosecuted or "not existing" because it is against allah's design. Would you defend the "pray the gay away" Christians? It is the default in Islam...

Rayne OfSalt
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Really? Europe still allows that? Cos here in Australia, Muslims decided that giving the animal a ceremonial little nick that bled a tiny bit still counted as halal and modern instant kill methods could then be used.

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Sarah Matsoukis
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The way these animals live before being killed is a bigger problem but aside from that just pack her lunch yourself like most parents worldwide.

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Ace
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I suspect more of a motivation than animal welfare here. If the mom really cared she'd be more upset by the much worse conditions that factory produced chickens are kept in, compared with the much higher welfare standards required for Halal.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Conventional" livestock is slaughtered in basically the same way in Western culture - the cow or pig is hoisted up by a hind leg and a blade is used to slice the animal's neck (arteries/veins) to kill it via bleeding it to death. That's EXACTLY how halal meat animals are killed - cut with a blade in order to bleed it to death. OP is so self-righteous about how she feels about halal slaughter when it's not all that different from how Western cultures slaughter livestock. The only difference is that in conventional slaughter, the animal is (theoretically) stunned before its throat is cut (via a bolt fired into its skull, via gassing it, or via electrical shock) but there's plenty of cited studies/proof out there that show that stunning is rarely perfect and sometimes the animal is NOT unconscious/stunned when it's slaughtered. If slaughtering an animal in a halal fashion is "wrong", then ALL slaughter is wrong, since we can't guarantee that the animal doesn't feel pain as it dies.

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Ben Aziza
Community Member
1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Halal method of slaughter has always disturbed me as a Muslim kid. I saw it first hand... Sad to see so many ppl so misinformed in the comments down here. The animals have their throats slit and they thrash around in pain for minutes before they die... Yhe it is not pleasant... Currently in europe most countries employ an instant kill method with a lethal sock or a bolt to the brain stem. Instant death so fast that the nerves do no have time to shoot pain signals... BECAUSE LAWS have been put in place to reduce animal cruelty (More still needs to be done tho with the farming methods) As a Muslim apostate myself I ask. Why is Islamophobia bad? I don't understand it. Why defend something you are not informed about? It is compassion? Compassion for my fellow humans is why i left Islam... Seeing how women are treated. How gay ppl are prosecuted or "not existing" because it is against allah's design. Would you defend the "pray the gay away" Christians? It is the default in Islam...

Rayne OfSalt
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Really? Europe still allows that? Cos here in Australia, Muslims decided that giving the animal a ceremonial little nick that bled a tiny bit still counted as halal and modern instant kill methods could then be used.

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Sarah Matsoukis
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The way these animals live before being killed is a bigger problem but aside from that just pack her lunch yourself like most parents worldwide.

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