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The corporate world is full of unspoken (and sometimes very loudly spoken) rules. Keep salary talk off the table. Tread lightly with HR. And above all, don’t overshare with colleagues.

It’s a game employees are expected to play, but employers don’t always play fair in return. In fact, there are plenty of things companies intentionally keep quiet, because if workers knew, it could cost them millions. That’s why these Redditors decided to spill the secrets, exposing the behind-the-scenes tactics businesses use to cut corners and protect their bottom line.

Scroll on to see what they had to say—it might be more eye-opening than you think.

#1

Employees collaborating in a modern office, discussing confidential workplace insights. The secret most companies would die to keep hidden: they have NO IDEA what their employees actually do all day.

I watched this play out at my last company in the most infuriating way. Our VP mandated a "productivity tracking initiative" where we had to log every task for two weeks. When the results came in, they showed our team was handling triple the expected workload with outdated tools while two entire layers of management contributed almost nothing measurable.

What happened to this eye-opening data? It disappeared. Completely buried. Why? Because fixing it would mean admitting they've been underpaying the people actually keeping the lights on while overpaying people who mostly create PowerPoints about "synergy."

The kicker? Three months later, they laid off 20% of the doers and kept all the managers. Then they couldn't figure out why deadlines were suddenly impossible to meet. So they hired expensive consultants who recommended - you guessed it - more managers to "oversee productivity improvements."

Companies would rather set money on fire than admit their precious org charts and management structures are mostly theater. The people who create actual value are treated as replaceable while those who create meetings are treated as indispensable.

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Khavrinen
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8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's very important to hire "consultants" who will only tell management what they want to hear!

Michael Largey
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8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Simple explanation - Management would rather direct money (salary) to someone from their own economic and social class than to someone from a "lower" one.

Lynda Loyacono
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8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is a proven fact that companies hire socio and psychopaths for top positions.

Fuhleeheece
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8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't even start on the HR departments!

Eileen Gormly
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8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My worst was when the OIG told the government department that they had five layers of management for two layers of workers and the industry standard was no more than three layers of management. So "you must reduce management" and management read that and ... removed one layer of workers and ADDED another layer of management. Shockingly, they failed the next OIG inspection as well and could not fathom why. They reduced! :O

K Barnes
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8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The higher ups in charge of these decisions are often friends or have good working relationships with management teams and no relationship with the mass of workers, so they have incentive to protect their own and not the mass of workers. Expensive working lunches and box seats for special events are good bonding time.

StrangeOne
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8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My last job, we had to log our washroom break times. It was actually quite humiliating being interrogated why I took 10 "excessive" minutes and having to describe by gut issues. I think the Team Leader was also a but embarrassed having to ask and hear that, as he quickly dismissed me.

Sue User
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8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If i recall correctly, an american car comoany was bought out/ nerged with a european one. Guy comes in, watches things for 6 months and then eliminates layers of management. Brings people from the shop floor into commitees, where management balks because " they dont know anything".

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    #2

    Two professionals in suits reviewing confidential documents at a desk with a gavel and scales. That just because it's written company policy, doesn't make it law or legal. Anything can be argued in a court and policy that blatantly breaks the law or infringes on your rights, won't hold up.

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    Sue User
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    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Repeat after me: a contract cannot override existing law. That clause about not talking about your pay ? If they try to enforce it, that is illegal. "The contract says" does not override " the law says".

    Ryan-James O'Driscoll
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    R Dennis
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also: many things in contract packages are "optional". I declined a policy agreement and an arbitration agreement in an onboarding packet. The HR person had never had anyone "opt out" and I asked "Why would I give up my rights?" She had to locate the appropriate forms because they never used them before.

    MeMosabe
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A contract to break the law is unenforceable.

    Ryan-James O'Driscoll
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mostly correct. It's specifically statutory rights that a contract cannot override.

    StrangeOne
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have noticed this too many times. Not just in business, with rental mgmt companies, too. I've learned to have the Tenancy Board go over rent contracts before signing to make sure they are within legal standing. No policy allowing no 24 hour notice to enter a suite, or deeming a request as 24 hour notice, is legal in Manitoba. But that didn't stop one mgmt company from pulling that s**t.

    #3

    Two employees in discussion, one holding a tablet, the other a mug, in an office setting. Most companies *do not* reward you for going above and beyond—they just quietly raise the baseline of what's expected. Once you show you can give 120%, it becomes the new 100%, and suddenly you're doing 1.2 jobs for the same paycheck. Employers would lose millions if everyone realized that loyalty doesn’t equal security—or raises.

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    Tabitha
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But don’t go thinking that only doing 75% will lower their expectations. They’ll get rid of you and replace you with a gullible chump who’ll k**l themself being loyal and working themself literally to death for the company, which doesn’t give a fat rat’s a*s about them dropping dead at their desk, and will replace them with another gullible chump before they’re even cold.

    Lowrider 56
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My old boss was known for demanding you give 'everything' you got to the job. Quite frankly it was a*****e sometimes. Somebody said something about how he treated the workers and his response was they're a dime a dozen. We did construction.

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    Alexia
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, this one hits hard. Proving that I can go 120% meant that I was expected not only to continue giving 120% as the new norm, but also to compensate for low performance colleagues ("because you are so experienced"). I did received some congratulations and a box of candies during a department meeting 😄

    StrangeOne
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup. If anything, if you want a raise and promotion, you have to tell the higher ups you're interested and then prove you're good for that role. The only perk is you may get extra leniencies and step out of your role expectations, such as being allowed to train new employees, do other tasks, be a bit more bossy, etc. Sounds nice until you realize you're juggling tasks and having higher standards than everyone else in the same position. So many people took a demotion after promotion because they just didn't want that much responsibility.

    Evelien Stijger Martens
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The best way to go is to just do what you need to do, no more, no less. Nobody will reward you for doing more. There are many people who do know very well how to I.orove how the Co.oany works, but thats not what they want from you, you have to stay put in your place and not shine above them.

    That Persistent Lint
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is something that proves to be right in many aspects of life: marriage responsibilities split? Checked; tax contributions? Checked; effort in keeping friendships? Checked; # of top 1 hits (for songwriters, music artists aand snipers), checked... Onced you've gone above and beyond a couple of times, people expect that to be your new baseline.

    Cuppa tea?
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's why when your productivity is numerically measured, always stick in long term aroun 98-105%. You doing good job, not slagging, no reason for encouragement,but not going "the extra mile" for no reward.

    JG123
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't get me started on the "we're going to need you to wear two hats until..." b******t!

    DeoManus Argentem
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Heh, it's pretty funny, I once lost a regional sales contest to a guy because even though I had about 5x his total numbers, my personal sales only increased about 50% over my past year, but his increased by about 300%. So basically, he went from worthless to poor, but I went from great to amazing (highest total in the region by 2x) lol. He won a luxury vacation and I won lunch with the VP.

    #4

    Two women discussing confidential employer insights while seated on a sofa with plants in the background. You're allowed to talk to your coworkers about pay. The amount of people I've run into who thinking discussing wages is honestly a crime absolutely blows my mind. Discuss what you make and if you're not making as much as someone else, question it.

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    R Dennis
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always told my employees that their pay was their business to share or not share. If you are paying a fair wage, you don't fear people knowing.

    Tabitha
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    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Got a job years ago at a place where, during orientation on my first day, they tried to make me sign an agreement to not discuss pay with coworkers under threat of being fired. I refused, told them that’s illegal, and walked out. Got a call and offer later that day from another place I’d applied to. Accepted their offer and started working there. When I told them what the other place tried, they said they could believe it out of them, because I wasn’t the first person they’d heard it from. They also said it’ll eventually cost them dearly. I moved away from the area, so I don’t know if their day of reckoning happened. I hope it did because I like to see bad people pay for their crimes, but tbh, I really couldn’t care less.

    Alexia
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're not allowed to talk to your coworkers about pay, it can only mean one thing: there are significant inequities, which would really be revolting if they became public.

    Michael Largey
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you have a union (and you should), those numbers are spelled out right there in the contract

    Sven Horlemann
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ...in the US. Greatest and freest country in the world.

    K Barnes
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The one time this came up at my work (thankless underpaid retail job) it was because they hired a wave of new staff at the same pay that us several years in were getting paid and they didn't want us to know. They told the new hires they would be fired if they shared. We found out and demanded raises and got measly 25 cent raises over the new hires. Good times. Same company would ask us to work OT and put it on another pay check so they didn't have to pay us OT wages for the OT because OT was against policy. Keep it up, Indigo books.

    Tom De Paul
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Jesus' Parable of the Vineyard Workers. Hint: don't b*tch if somebody gets a better deal than you. You agreed to your deal.

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    Lowrider 56
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just had to do that. I've been with same company for 22 years. They just hired a guy to work with me. Come to find out they were paying him more than what I'm making. Like, wtf? I spoke to one of the owners, there's 3. He said he did not know ow that. He said he would talk to other 2 owners. That was a month ago. No raise yet.

    StrangeOne
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've been told by my current employer not to talk about our pay. It had been allowable for employers to have policies disallowing employees to discuss pay, up until last year. Now it's law in Canada for employers to not have this policy. However, it is left up to the provinces on how they want to implement this law. In Manitoba, they're just letting companies choose. So, it's a bit dicey. I've not heard of anyone in my company actually get in trouble for asking about other's pay. I know one person who openly practices their right to talk about it, with no consequences. It's like you have to dip your toe in the water to see what actually is going to happen, if anything. Or watch someone else test the waters.

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    #5

    Woman at a desk checking her watch with a laptop open, symbolizing employee secrets in the workplace. Maybe not millions, but any time your employer requires you to do something, you should be clocked in. Meetings, trainings, arriving early to "start your shift on time," should all be considered time on the clock and you should be compensated for it. I've heard many managers/bosses in the past tell teams not to clock in for brief meetings etc, which is wage theft.

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    Joshua David
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thats why a lot of corporate jobs pay a salary. You all thiers. Former corporate executive HR Manager

    Tabitha
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The more they work their salaried employees, the less those employees are making per hour.

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    StrangeOne
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And should be all within your shift time. Not "see me after work. Don't log out." Especially if not approved for overtime.

    SkyyCaramba
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that's why I poop on company time!

    K Barnes
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I worked for a bookstore they would schedule us until close at 9, but we were required to stay until all customers left the store and to cash out. We complained so many times with no change. Openers had to come in early enough to set up their till before open but were scheduled at opening time. Such BS. I wonder if it's still that bad...

    Kit Black
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This situation is called report this to the labor board

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    #6

    Person using a calculator at a desk with financial charts, representing what employers might not disclose to employees. That they actually can afford to give you a higher salary but choose not to.

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    John Dilligaf
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    because doing so might impact those so-important quarterly profits and the executive bonuses .

    JL
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Once worked at a place that suspended raises one year admitting that reason was that they made a profit that year, but not as much of a profit as they wanted.

    StrangeOne
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If your company is a shareholder company, you may never get a good raise to "keep frontline costs down".

    Bacon Tentacles
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That CEO's second yacht ain't gonna pay for itself, after all...

    Alexia
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, bonuses for high-performing employees. Instead, management choose to offer much smaller bonuses to everybody, regardless of how much they achieved. Why? Just why?

    Cathy Jo Baker
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unless you're a public school teacher. In that case, it really is true they can't afford to give you a higher salary.

    #7

    Man wearing headphones working on a laptop in a kitchen, representing workplace secrets employers don't disclose. Returning to the office has nothing to do with increased performance of the actual business/work being done/culture/etc....

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    Geoffrey Scott
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course not, they are paying for, or renting, office space.

    Michael Largey
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They just can't see that the rent is the same wherever the workers are. If they were smart, they'd just downsize the amount of office space when the lease was up for renewal and save money. But empire bulders hate to have their domains shrink.

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    The Other Guest
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, I don't think this is actually a secret. Anyone who was able to work from home knows perfectly well that performance didn't drop because of it (and in some cases it actually increased).

    Nikole
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So completely. We work from home three days a week. There is no reason why it can’t be five, except for the lease thing and control.

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    Sam Lombardo
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ..and want to control their employees

    Toothless Feline
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bingo. This is the central truth. It’s all about control.

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    Nina
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They can't handle not seeing people be there for their standard hours.

    B Jones
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's because the shareholders in your company are also invested in car manufacturers/fast food/coffee chains...etc that you might not spend as much on if you aren't driving to the office and getting food/coffee 5days a week

    Jonas Fisher
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Strong disagree. Of course it does. So many people working at home have been busted for spending the time doing a million things other than work. On top of that, we all know that online meetings simply can't compare to real, in-person meetings.

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    #8

    Man working at desk with computer, focusing on work-related secrets employers might not want revealed. That most meetings could've been an email.

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    Tabitha
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And a short email at that.

    Alexia
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And playing silly games during department meetings does not contribute to "strengthening the team". Also, reading motivational quotes for employees - when you, the manager, have already proven that you're not applying them - is hypocrisy and a waste of time.

    Mariaf
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But then half the managers would be seen as doing nothing

    Cuppa tea?
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, the last online meeting where they announced firing of 20 people could be real life meeting.

    Sue User
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I did that last week. Sent an email with " i dont think we need a neeting. Here is a document. I need you to do a, b and c". Felt like a king.

    Michael Largey
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And some of those other meetings could have been pajama parties!

    R Dennis
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My wife is WFH... many, many meetings are pajama parties.

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    Papa
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This happened to me last week. I got an email asking when I could attend a Teams meeting. I answered with a time frame that worked well for me, but asked for more information so I could be prepared for the meeting. When told what it was about I promptly addressed it, and the meeting was canceled.

    #9

    Factory workers in protective gear, a potential insight into employer secrets. The union thing has already been brought up multiple times. I’ll just add that if you work for a large enough company, they literally have a department that pays people just to make sure unions don’t get formed. It’s usually called something like a labor relations and the main crux of their job is to assess unionization risk of every move the company makes. Couple that with the tactics company leaders use to disrupt/influence union votes, and it’s apparent that they are all scared s**tless of this.

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    Roxy222uk
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is only true in one country.

    JK
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm just gonna say this; if you live in a first world country, there should be LAWS that prevent you being mistreated at work. You shouldn't *need* unions. Being treated like an actual human being, shouldn't happen just because you pay a subscription or join a club.

    Michael Largey
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Laws can't cover every detail in every industry. You need a union to spell out many specific needs because a general national law can't address them clearly enough.

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    Thee8thsense
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, God forbid they have to be held accountable or that their workers have solid backing representing them.

    Joshua David
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Once i read that when employees of Wal-Mart even mention the word union, the execs fly in on a private jet to diffuse. Which reminds me, why do people get so upset when celebrities fly private? Could you imagine if TS went to an airport? Why don't people go after corporate jets? No one would know an exec from Adam but they use that mode often. Those are the ones who need to fly commercial.

    Chrissie Anit
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fun fact: Walt-Mart couldn't get a foot into the German market because German workers are very pro-union, and the Wal-Mart anti-union policy is actually illegal here. Plus the German workers thought the morning rituals of cheering for your company were completely bonkers.

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    Sven Horlemann
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ...the US, again. Such a great and free country.

    Jenn Smith
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. No one gets fired faster than anyone who even whispered about Unions! Facts.

    Kitty Litter
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    8 months ago

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    Unions are merely an excuse to allow your laziest employees to keep a job while destroying the productivity of your company. There's a reason that unions only account for 5% of the labor force of this country. Unions have no interest in your prosperity, only their own.

    Raceone10 Raceone10
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    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The middle class was CREATED BY UNIONS. Try backing the hard workers instead of being a tool for the company.

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    #10

    Two employees having a discussion at a wooden table, one holding a tablet, with a brick wall in the background. HR is not there for the benefit of employees.

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    Fuhleeheece
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Preach! HR employees are goons for the administration.

    Michael Largey
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    HR is first looking out for the interests of HR. After that, they help the administration.

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    John Dilligaf
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    HR is there for the benefit of the company. To keep the company out of trouble. If doing that means siding with the employee then they will side with the employee.

    Zaach
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Always take a union rep with you if you are 'called in' to hr

    JK
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Top Tip: There is always 1 administrator that knows HR inside and out, but either doesn't work in the department, or has some connection to HR - this person is usually you're best source of info, because they know all the stuff, but aren't paid to do it, they're also usually not doing it *because* they prefer helping employees over the company. (Source: me, I'm usually that guy, and Ive met loads like me. and we all *hate* employees being screwed over, and *will* give you every bit of advice/help they can)

    General Anaesthesia
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Human resources are like all other resources, to be exploited in corporate processes and waste materials disposed of as cheaply as possible.

    Cindy Brick
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I found this out the hard way, sadly. Got laid off -- and didn't realize I could have asked for at least a few weeks' termination pay. The HR person never mentioned it. In fact, she implied I was lucky to get my unused vacation pay. She also told me I was not eligible for unemployment -- which wasn't true. Thankfully, I didn't believe her on that one. This was from Rodale, who likes to brag how well they take care of their employees... 'like a big family.'

    Bacon Tentacles
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To them, you are more Resource than Human.

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    #11

    Worker in blue overalls sitting on floor with helmet nearby, in a large warehouse. Know your benefits and rights. I manage people and handle benefits. The amount of employees that don’t have a f*****g clue what they are entitled to is ridiculous. I try to coach them, especially the younger folks, but they don’t get it. Two examples: 

    1. My state offers disability leave which includes parental leave. I’m in an “important” role where it can be difficult if I’m out of the office. When my kid was born, you can be d**n sure I took my full 3 months and not a bit less. F**k you, that’s my right, you can figure it out. 

    2. My brother, who is in his forties mind, tore his ACL at work for a huge company that delivers everything to your house in 2 days. He went to the doctor and got a note. I asked him if he reported it as a worker’s comp injury. “No, I have insurance.” The f**k dude, you also have deductibles and copays, AND you only have 10 days to report a worker’s comp injury. Get off the phone with me and go file a report NOW. If you need surgery and light duty or disability, that s**t HAS TO GO THROUGH YOUR EMPLOYER. ITS NOT ON YOU!

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    nottheactualphoto
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ACL is anterior cruciate ligament, if anyone is wondering. It's one of the ligaments that holds you knee together, so pretty important.

    Bec
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fortunately, I work somewhere with decent HR and they were recently reminding people about medical leave options. My colleague had a slip and fall at work last year. She came to my office and was telling me how she had just fell and while she felt fine, I said she should report it as a workplace incident. She did not feel fine later and had some serious bruising (she is in her 60s as well). Because she reported it, her physical therapy and medical care (albeit minor) was completely covered including not needing to use time off to go to therapy

    Just me...
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is considered insurance fraud if you claim a workers comp injury on your personal health insurance.

    Red Hair Blue Soul
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No it's not. But your health insurance foes have a right of subrogation against the workman's compensation claim.

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    #12

    Person in suit presenting to colleagues in a conference room, touching on what employers don’t want employees to know. How much the top execs are making. I thought I was making an ok salary and then my company went public. In IPO filings it turned out the CEO was pulling in 40 M a year. Really made me think about all those year end 3% raise conversations.

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    Helena
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. We are now only getting 2%

    Tabitha
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The suits are always way overpaid for adding absolutely zero value to the company, and often actually draining profits with their “brilliant” ideas that don’t work and lose money, because the suits have no clue how things run on the frontlines. Funny how the people actually making the company money are always the lowest paid and first fired, and those who do nothing constructive get raises and bonuses for tanking profits,

    Tom De Paul
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    JCPenney's: hey, let's get rid of sales. Nearly got rid of JCPenney. Still might.

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    R Dennis
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And some of these C-suites and V-suites retire, then come back as 3 day consultants for the same money.

    Kitty Litter
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    8 months ago

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    Cry some more. That CEO (potentially) at one point started at the bottom, worked their way up the ladder and now makes more in bonuses than you make in a year. If it was earned so what and if it wasn't earned so what. Don't like it become a CEO then and see what you actually have to deal with when you're at that level.

    Tamra
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    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a lot of bull$hit for such a short paragraph. CEO pay has risen 1460% since 1978, while wages for the rest of the population have been stagnant for decades. CEOs were paid 399 times as much as a "regular" worker. So unless those CEOs are turning water into wine and spinning straw into gold, there's no reason there should be such a wild pay discrepancy, other than plain old greed. Maybe stop watching dramas and roms coms from the 1980's, because that was the last time a person worked their way from the bottom to the level of CEO.

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    #13

    Two colleagues high-fiving at a desk with a laptop and paperwork, illustrating workplace dynamics and hidden insights. Company loyalty hits your income.

    Wife and I were at the same company for well over a decade. We earned well so never thought about it.

    Come an event that made us look around for what ifs. Incomes practically doubled a year later as we started at new companies being paid market value.

    Not getting paid well? Find a new company to work for. We were in the medical field so was a bit easy for us.

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    Armac
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Loyalty is a one way street, they’d fire you in a heartbeat if it saved a buck.

    Data1001
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More money is nice, but if you're at a place where you aren't getting what you feel you deserve, but the workday itself agrees with you, be wary -- you could end up somewhere making a lot more money but being a lot more stressed out as well.

    Kitty Litter
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Change companies every 5 years to keep your salary competitive

    Lynda Loyacono
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The office lingo is hardly decipherable, but it's not rocket surgery to look elsewhere if one wishes to make more money. Medical isn't the only "easy" field to accomplish this.

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    #14

    A professional in a suit sits at a desk with a laptop, symbolizing workplace insights employers keep from employees. >What's something employers would never want employees to know because they would lose millions?

    The ceo and other executives aren't worth remotely close to what they make.

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    and_a_touch_of_the_’tism
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    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tie ceo wage to minimum employee wage. Employees have to make at least, say, 15% of what the CEO does.

    #15

    Person relaxing on a beach chair by the ocean, representing hidden employee perks. What if I told you most businesses count on employees not using all of their paid sick and vacation time? Each day they don't use is money the employer gets to keep. Let me give you another thing: when you are working unpaid overtime, they get used to it and don't consider giving you a raise.

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    Roxy222uk
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is required for me to take all my paid days off here in the UK.

    The Darkest Timeline
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    While in the US, our culture makes you feel guilty if you use it at all.

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    Ace
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you told me that I'd say "tell me you work in the USA without actually telling me that you work in the USA".

    Offbeat Quinoa
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah in my company, if I don’t take my paid leave, it just gets paid out to me at the end of the year. I’m Canadian 😊 I actually don’t know if that’s a Canada thing or a company thing though.

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    Data1001
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have generally rarely taken sick days. But I just started taking 'mental health' days, not just because so many other people regularly take sick days (I don't really care what others do or don't do), but because I get 2 weeks allotted sick time each year, and I may as well take a day off when I am feeling stressed out, rather than keep pushing. Good for me, but I think it's also good for the company.

    Sue User
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Me too. At first I felt like I was cheating but mental health is health.

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    Len Hill
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, only in one backward country

    Michael Largey
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I left one job, they paid me my daily rate for all unused personal and sick days. They had to. It was spelled right out in my union contract.

    Evelien Stijger Martens
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where I live, that money goes to the employee, only taxes are taken more of of it than when it where wages. So I better tale my vacations and there is no such thing as sick days. When you are sick, you are sick and you can be for up t 2 years and after that there are arrangements for those who will not get back at all.

    Alexia
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unused leave days are reported to the following year. Or, if you are leaving the company, they have to pay you all those days off you didn't take. This is the law, and labor inspection really checks this periodically. Eastern European country here.

    DeoManus Argentem
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Everywhere I've ever worked, they've paid me for any sick/personal/vacation days I didn't take, whether I was salaried (although paid sick days were unlimited when salaried) or hourly... and once in management I'd get written up if any of my workers didn't use all their vacation/personal days (whether they wanted to or not), and my boss would if I didn't take mine. (US)

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    #16

    Employee looking stressed at her desk, holding her forehead in an office environment. That a lot of “urgent deadlines” are completely made up — just pressure tactics to squeeze more output without paying more.

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    Data1001
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One person decides something needs to be done NOW, and all of a sudden other people and other departments are scrambling to make it happen simply because that person had a notion. Typical business BS.

    April Pickett
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Take that from the private sector, make it Federal, and watch our world collapse.

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    Richard Pennington
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a nasty case a few years ago. I had a document with a deadline. I busted a gut to make the deadline, but the document still had to be signed off by various people including a subcontractor. The document was delayed for three weeks because the subcontractor signatory, under instructions from his management, refused to add his signature because of an unrelated dispute between the two companies.

    Snow_White
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I work in payroll. Urgent deadlines or deadlines of any kind are not made up, I can assure you. If you miss payroll deadline, you will not get paid right.

    Kitty Litter
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    8 months ago

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    Those deadlines are put forth from communications that you were literally no part of that happened in a meeting, conference call or some form of demand from a customer or business need that requires timely completion etc etc. Don't like it then get to the level that you're included in those meetings

    Jenn Smith
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No I was wrong. The owner's kid has entered the chat. Gotta be.

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    #17

    50 Costly Secrets That Companies Can’t Afford To Let Slip They aren't giving loyal employees raises that match the wages of new hires. You can start at a company at $10, 10 years later you're under $15 and new hires are at $16.

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    Christina Born
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This! It's been my husband's story his entire working life. Sixteen years at one company and the new hires were making just as much!!

    Bec
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My colleague and I mentioned in an informal conversation with HR that we felt there was a pay disparity between us and our male colleagues. HR said, oh no, we have a clear process that determines salaries. BS! A few years later new management and a new CFO came in and gave both of us fat raises to make up some of the gap, we were also doing a lot more in leadership. If course, it won't make up for all the loss from being underpaid for years.

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    Alexia
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They also prefer to hire new employees instead of promoting. Then, they are surprised their long-time loyal employees resign and go to work somewhere else for higher pay.

    Sue User
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Years ago, i was an assistant manager at a restaurant. Minimun wage went up and suddenly the dishwasher made more than me. They had the audacity to tell me I needed to come up with three reasons for a raise.

    Kit Black
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Best way to get a raise is to go somewhere else

    Zaach
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That happened at a bank I worked for; the company was bought out and the new company would not increase anyone's pay. I was making more than my supervisor, some managers were training people who made more than them - their response "the squeaky wheel gets fired"

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    #18

    Office discussion among colleagues, sharing unknown employer insights in a modern workspace. That ‘we’re like a family here’ actually just means ‘we hope you’ll tolerate unpaid overtime’ 🤭.

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    Data1001
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, you're not my family. You're my employer and these are my co-workers, not my friends. I'll be genial, I'll be accommodating, but I'm not going to pretend there's any reason I'm here other than the fact that you're paying me to be.

    Alexia
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My family is toxic, violent and a*****e. So when I hear anyone telling me "we'll treat you like family", I literally cringe 😄

    Michael Largey
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're boss tells you this, reply "Fine. I want to be the Daddy next month."

    SkyyCaramba
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    hate to be this guy but your. also f*****g chortled at this

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    Maggie Fulton
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ask what they want you to bring for Thanksgiving dinner with the family.

    Kat Alison
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, it’s a dysfunctional family and you’ll end up needing therapy.

    #19

    Employees in a meeting room discussing business strategies with charts displayed on screens. That management really doesn't work 800 times harder than the person flipping the burgers.

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    DeoManus Argentem
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly, executives are paid so much for the same reason athletes are paid so much. They go to the highest bidder. I would too.

    Neb
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But it is not as simple, actually. You have to take responsibility for company, for direction, for what to sell to customer; you also are responsible that the employees of your company would still have work, hire good employees, keep organization stable over time... No, I wouldn't want to be an executive, especially for a big company. Even if I got what they are paid.

    Kitty Litter
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    8 months ago

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    You have one task. Flip the burgers. You think that a manager can focus attention on one singular remedial task for the duration of their day like you can??? If so, then you need a new manager

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    #20

    Person gesturing during a meeting, with a laptop and notebook on the table, highlighting employer-employee dynamics. Most jobs don’t actually need 40 hrs a week to get done. If you cut out pointless meetings and unnecessary tasks people could finish their work in way less time. If everyone realized that companies would probably have to pay for actual work done not just hours spent.

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    Alexia
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After going "above and beyond" (cause I thought I had to prove my worth) the management told me it was still not enough: "yes, you achieved double the initial target, but you didn't do this and that". Oh, and I was struggling with burnout (they didn't care). So I developed a way to achieve goals faster than the rest: while I always complete tasks in time, I actually do things much slower than my actual potential. It's heaven. I can help my team, I can sleep well, stress is low and I've never been so content 😉

    Ace
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Only in purely transactional roles could this possibly be true. In my personal experience its very rare indeed to only have a set number of tasks or amount of work to complete in a given time, it's always been more about how much of your backlog you can get done in that time.

    Geoffrey Scott
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a boss (at Nestle') who came back after a week off and had to wade through 5k emails...YEESH!

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    Maggie Fulton
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They’d pay for the fewer hours you work and pocket the rest.

    ChugChug
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Except when you have to answer the phone on customer service jobs any time somebody calls. Then the amount of work you required to do is 8 hours, no matter if you handle 6 calls or 30.

    #21

    Workers on strike holding signs for respect and job security at a construction site. That unions work and you should join/form one.

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    Geoffrey Scott
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    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hate to say it, but you have to keep an eye on THAT leadership too...

    David
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    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    lot of corrupt and abus ive unions

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    JK
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For the love of all that is holy - Americans, you don't *need* unions, you *NEED* adequate employment *LAWS*.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We can and should have both. When I negotiated a contract for my union, I brought to the table specific issues that my members wanted addressed, not what some Congressman guessed we needed. And since we were government employees, we could hardly trust our employer (the government) to be the one setting all the rules.

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    #22

    Two employees in a business meeting discussing confidential employer insights over coffee. As a rule, an employer needs you more than an employee does.

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    JK
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Recruitment and training is EXPENSIVE. If a company would rather lose you and waste time/money replacing you, then LEAVE and find better elsewhere

    Bec
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd say this really depends on the position and the job market.

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    #23

    Two women having a discussion at a table, possibly about workplace secrets employees aren't aware of. I don't know about the hyperbole of losing millions, however most employees who have never been in management don't realize how hard it is to find a good employee, so unless you're in a high turnover job with a revolving door of low wage earners, your manager is more open to your needs than your manager lets on. Don't be afraid to seek better working conditions, an out of cycle pay increase or even an internal transfer, if you're any good at your job. Your manager is easier to replace than you are.

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    DeoManus Argentem
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a good one! In my old industry it was pretty easy to fire a manager because everybody wants to move up and there are always people waiting in the wings to replace them! Losing a good productive worker was hard.

    B Jones
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My roommate worked for 7-11 and there were so many times he came home and said he was training or covering for someone else training a new hire, then a week later it was "new hire got caught stealing scratch tickets and was fired". Sad but hilarious at the same time with how many people were just a complete waste of time.

    #24

    Gavel on a wooden desk with blurred legal books, symbolizing what employers don’t want employees to know. You cannot be fired for jury duty. Most jury duty summons will explicitly state this outright on the summons itself. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to your face.

    And no, at-will employment does NOT supersede this; jury duty is federally protected, even in at-will states. Even if you get fired under different circumstances, the timing *alone* could subject your employer to the court's scrutiny (especially in states like Pennsylvania and California), which in many cases will NOT end well for them.

    My friend's former boss learned this the hard way.

    EDIT: And while we're talking about the at-will doctrine, employers and employees alike sometimes forget that it applies BOTH ways.

    Sure, you can fire anyone for nearly any reason (except certain protected reasons like jury duty and pregnancy, among others) or no reason... BUT they can also QUIT for any reason or no reason. And they do not need to give you 2 weeks notice. If I tell you I quit, that means I **QUIT**, and you **cannot** stop me.

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    Data1001
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's right, you can't legally be fired for attending Jury Duty. But with the pittance most counties in the US are paying for daily service, you could go broke and not be able to pay your bills if it's a long trial. I was recently called in, and thankfully I'm with a company who pays my regular salary for a certain amount of Jury service -- but I had to bow out anyway, because the judge was expecting the trial to take longer than the amount of time my employer was covering. It's no wonder people try anything to get out of it.

    Sue User
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My company made me make up the tine to get paid. I was hourly.

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    DeoManus Argentem
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my state, if you're hourly or unemployed the court pays a whopping $15/day. If you're salaried you get nothing because, well, salaried means you get paid the same whether you are actually working or not, so you're not losing anything by serving.

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    #25

    A joyful family playing with their child in a cozy living room. Other developed countries have statutory worker protections such as vacation pay and parental leave far more generous than what Americans get, none of this "unlimited leave" which people are afraid to take. In Sweden for example, each parent gets a year of paid parental leave not this two weeks for one parent BS.

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    #26

    Person in casual attire using a laptop with a dog beside them, possibly unaware of employer secrets. That some companies abuse the hell out of Autistic Employees by underpaying them or by literally exploiting their kindness & putting them under immense stress while saying they're providing them jobs.

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    Zaach
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Goodwill comes to mind

    Gavin Johnson
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At my old job we had a ‘numbers guy’, he did in depth analysis of the jobs we did, working practices, efficiency, and created spreadsheets that produced some very interesting stats and figures. He wrangled Excel and was superb at making some complex information easy to understand. Every year he produced something that helped both the 100+ guys we had out in the field and helped us provide a better service for our clients. His boss knew that he was not a people person and never put him into big meetings that would’ve made his life miserable, he let him do what he was great at, the boss then took the information and made us better at what we did. He was paid handsomely, got bonuses for his work and everyone had time for our ‘numbers guy’, he was clearly on the spectrum but no one took advantage of that, he was so good at making our lives easier that upsetting him wasn’t on the cards. In his spare time he’s a cricket stats and analysis guy, he loves his numbers!

    Cas P
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you can avoid telling them that you are autistic, avoid it. Autism is associated with poor communication skills and very few people have heard of masking. You may be an excellent communicator, but the minute they find out you are autistic, any chance of promotion with the company has gone.

    #27

    Employee worried, holding a box of office supplies, symbolizing secrets employers keep from employees. That losing your current job position isn't the end of your life. I have seen people hanging on toxic or low wage jobs for years exactly because of this fear. Employers make them believe that they cant do better than that.

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    Data1001
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends an awful lot on that person's financial situation. Sometimes losing a job can mean you're one step away from homelessness. And if you can't find a replacement job right away, things can get very dire indeed.

    Geoffrey Scott
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Always have one lined up. Take a sick day to interview.

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    #28

    Person using a calculator at a desk, surrounded by receipts and a laptop, highlighting employee knowledge gaps. What "wage theft" is and that it's a crime.

    Even an inattentive employer can do it by accident. S****y employers systematize it and steal millions from people.

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    JB
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wage theft accounts for more money lost than all burglaries, bank robberies, art heists, shoplifting, and car thefts combined. And not by a small amount, either. It's like 50 billion dollars a year.

    Zaach
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is included in the concept 'bezel' - bezel is the idea that at least 10% of the world's money is always being misappropriated (it also refers to the 'money river' but that is way too complex to try to explain)

    Offbeat Quinoa
    Community Member
    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “A bezel is a rim or frame, commonly found around watch faces, gem settings, or device screens, acting as a protective or decorative element.” It’s also the name of a watch making company. I googled it and could not find a single mention of the word bezel being used in the context you’re referring to. Could you explain?

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    #29

    Woman with box of office items near window, reflecting on employers' secrets. That you can claim unemployment in the u.s. even if you are still working. If they cut your hours enough to where you're no longer making the same kind of money you were.You can file for unemployment.

    ( My knowledge may be a little bit dated).

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    Geoffrey Scott
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And if you are terminated, under most conditions you qualify for UI benefits.

    Zaach
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Always challenge if UI is denied. I was fired and denied UI so I challenged that, the next level agreed 'no UI'; chalenged again and it went a committee - I got UI

    Tom De Paul
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can also quit and collect UI benefits. IF you have good cause connected with the work.

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    #30

    Two people reviewing documents at a table, discussing topics employers prefer their employees don't know. Most non-competes are illegal under "restraint of trade" laws. Its really just an attempt at employers getting folks thinking they are trapped there or would have to move or not work in their field in their area. its not legal. Mainly because it allows employers to start a***ing employees, freezing wages/promotions etc. Ask to make it a yearly renewed one with no compete/no fire agreed to by each. I doubt you would get it, but they certainly would respect you knowing exactly what they are asking of you, and expecting the same in return.

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    #31

    Worker in red overalls sitting, being aided by a colleague in a high-vis vest, highlighting common challenges employees face. Dead peasant insurance aka "Corporate-Owned Life Insurance" (COLI). It's when a company takes out a life insurance policy on an employee, almost always without their knowledge, and names the company as the beneficiary. If the employee dies, the company gets the payout. They can profit off of your death. Often, they will profit MORE from an industrial accident than they will have to pay out in settlement or insurance premiums going up. But they will also profit from a non-work related death, like if you get hit by a car on the weekend.

    And if the policy is kept even after the employee leaves, it's still good.

    Wal Mart did it. Winn Dixie did it. Dow. Proctor and Gamble. It's not unusual.

    Now there are laws requiring disclosure but I am not sure how many people read the fine print when they sign on.

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    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My father's employer paid for two life insurance policies on him, one for $25,000 and the other for half a million. Guess who was the beneficiary of the big one? They also took the pension my dad earned over 25 years and put it in their pocket, telling my mom "Sorry, ma'am, an employee has to live to collect his pension." (Perfectly legal back then.)

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    #32

    Employees working in a large open-plan office, seated at desks with computers. Salaried employees can still be compensated for overtime pay if they are not exempt, many salaried employees are misclassified as exempt.

    If you are salaried and you get docked partial pay for partial days worked etc, you are not salaried you are hourly.

    Overtime hours are recorded WEEKLY past 40 hours, not every two weeks past 80 hours. Hours worked cannot be moved in different workweeks to avoid overtime pay.

    If you are a 1099 worker but get treated like an employee you more than likely have been misclassified and your employer may be screwing you out of overtime pay and for sure in taxes.

    Managers and supervisors cannot be in a tip pool. Only employees.

    If employees are working at multiple businesses that share common goods, managers, owners, etc., the hours at both locations need to be conglomerated for overtime pay. IE: you work 25 hours at location 1 and 20 hours at location 2 in 1 week. You don't get paid separately, you have worked 45 hours and are owed overtime for 5 hours.

    This may be considered common knowledge, but you'd be surprised how much employers attempt, and do, get away with.

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    Brenda
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the location where your hours went over 40 is the location that pays the overtime.

    Zaach
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The current president lowered the pay scale for determining salaried/exempt (during his last term)

    Tom De Paul
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's more about what the job is, what preparation (education) is required to do the job. Pharmacists make $105k/year and get OT pay (because it used to only require a BS.)

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    #33

    Two women taking a selfie under palm trees, capturing a fun moment in tropical setting. Unlimited vacation benefits them vs. you. Vacation time is a liability on their books and get paid out to you if/when you leave. Unlimited vacation time removes that liability, saving them millions.

    The policies typically say unlimited but *at the discretion of the manager*. Unless they are total rockstars, those who ask for or take alot of vacation are often managed out for performance reasons.

    mashupguy72 , Natalia Blauth/unsplash (not the actual photo) Report

    Neb
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We were strongly suggested to take similar amount of vacation as before the "Unlimited" were introduced.

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    #34

    Person holding a smartphone near a laptop, possibly checking messages about employer secrets. That "free rewards" program everyone wants you to sign up for these days is not actually free. The company is selling your data to advertisers. That is where the real money comes from.

    jimnobodie , Firmbee.com/unsplash (not the actual photo) Report

    and_a_touch_of_the_’tism
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you can’t tell what the product is, you’re the product.

    SkyyCaramba
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    that can't stop me! i want cheaper hot topic!

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    #35

    Four employees in a meeting, discussing documents at a table, representing workplace insights employers may conceal. There is an entire industry that is solely dedicated to helping large companies thwart unionization efforts by their employees. Companies in the US pay literally hundreds of millions of dollars each year to these consultancy firms to stop their workers from asserting their right to collective bargaining. If your employer ever makes you go to a meeting or watch a video where someone tries to tell you all the ways that unions are bad for you, know that this is complete and utter b******t that has been carefully constructed and refined and utilized over and over again to keep you and people like you from getting a fair wage. THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY THEY SPEND TO DO THIS. It is not for your benefit. It is for theirs.

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    #36

    Two employees in blue shirts at a computer, maintaining focus and communication in a professional setting. How much value you actually bring to a company. Especially if you work in administrative, low paid positions. Sales supports etc, enable companies to make a hell of a lot of money.

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    #37

    Teacher smiling while explaining math on a chalkboard in a classroom setting, with students raising hands. Not millions but hundreds of thousands of dollars ...


    1. At the end of every year employers get to keep keep all their employees' unclaimed flex spending dollars.

    2. In my k-12 school district teachers can't take all their PTO bc the district can't find enough subs to cover requested PTO. They claim there is a shortage of sub teachers. The truth is their sub pay is too low so the subs take work in higher paying districts. .

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    Geoffrey Scott
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    PLEASE investigate an HSA. Many allow rollover, I was able to take mine with me when I retired (and yes, I can pay my ACA premiums with it). If your employer is willing, it's worth it.

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    #38

    Two colleagues having a candid conversation at a table, possibly discussing workplace insights. You can negotiate your severance.

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    #39

    Person speaking to employees in a conference room setting, sharing insights employers might keep undisclosed. The reason why the company missed sales goals and you didn’t get a bonus…Cause the ceo or other executive screwed it up.

    Employees wound revolt in they found out how often deals are lost and their money is f****d with because of some executive mistake.

    We Did layoffs cause the vp is sales has a bad strategy of the market 2 years ago that didn’t work out. So they had to fire a few dozen people. But it was that one guys fault.

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    Sue User
    Community Member
    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I watched as a VO of sales tried to exspand the market overseas and decimate a 40 year old company. He kept his job, 2/3 workers lost theirs. He still thinks the people in other countries were fools not to fall for his frat boy antics and for insisting on following local laws.

    Carrie B
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like Target in Canada.

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    Steve
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And of course, that VP kept their job.

    K Barnes
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Associate's dad was the CFO of his company. Lost the company literally tens of million of dollars during his tenure so they encouraged him to leave with a huge parting payout- hundreds of thousands of dollars- rather than just firing him. Left with glowing references from his buddies and found another job as CFO for a smaller company that he failed spectacularly at as well. Guy is worth tens of millions and is utterly incompetent.

    #40

    I have scrolled quite a long way and haven’t seen 401k matching mentioned. If your company offers this do everything you can to make sure you get the match in full. It is free money to you. And it is money that will hugely multiply over time. Any money you put in also goes in pre tax, so it’s an even better deal for you. Usually it’s a certain amount per quarter so you need to contribute regularly over the year. Please find out if your company does this and if they do then take advantage! .

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    Geoffrey Scott
    Community Member
    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many Defined Contribution plans, the good ones at least, automatically increase your share every year. I call and stop them at 9%. Your employer share will not, but good to get 'the match'. Also, I'm a bit of a chicken regarding investing. Twice now, I have called the plan administrator and moved my principal into a low risk investment. Future contributions will go into higher risk, but the current principal is low risk.

    Zaach
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Make sure you do not reach the maximum contribution until the end of the year (if you contribute the max mid-year, you miss all the free money for the rest of the year)

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My employer offered his and then cancelled later when it saw how many of us took us up on it and what that cost them to match. It must have assumed that we were being paid too little to be able to afford to put much in a 401k. (Actually not an unreasonable supposition.)

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    #41

    A woman in a business setting communicating important details to a colleague, highlighting employer insights. That employers will always side with the person that's harder to replace. Always.

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    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP overestimates the smarts of employers. Vastly overestimates. They will side with the person who will serve their short-term interests. (Employers who are aware of their long-term interests don't let themselves get put in this position in the first place.)

    Kit Black
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely not. They will always side with the person they like better, and they will believe that that person is the better employee - the human capacity for self delusion is limitless.

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    #43

    People in a meeting, shaking hands, discussing what employers don’t want employees to know in a bright room. Collective bargaining.

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    RedHairedDragon
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a family member who manages all the teachers in a region. He absolutely loves unions, because he only have to negotiate salaries once, and not worth every single employee.

    #44

    In Chicago, it's called ODRISA and the Fair Workweek Act

    many businesses would be on the hook for fines and backpay if their employees pushed back on their illegal scheduling practices

    they can't schedule you more than 6 days in a row, schedule you with close-open shifts, or change your schedule last minute.

    I used to raise the concern to my supervisors, but the last time took weeks for them to determine that I was correct, then I got fired not too long after.

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    Sue User
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Senator Elizabeth Warren tried to make this federal law.

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    #45

    Open-plan office with empty cubicles and modern design, highlighting workplace dynamics employers might keep private. If everyone quit at the same time, they would not recover for weeks if not months.

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    Roxy222uk
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, obviously. No one can be expected to magic up an entire replacement team of staff, all fully trained and ready to go.

    Regina Holt
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It would take much longer than that! I think lots of companies wouldn't survive.

    azubi
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A strike does the trick, too

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    #46

    Man in a gray suit sitting confidently in a modern office, depicting things employers don’t want their employees to know. Your boss doesn't know/care about you and only pretends because they think you'll feel bad about acting in your own interest. .

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    Neb
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Eh, everything really overgeneralization. Main top CEO or even several removed from me? Yes. My direct manager? Depends on team size and what they do. And on boss.

    #47

    Two employees working late in an office, with one drinking coffee, highlighting things employers don’t want known. I bet they don’t want employees realizing how much unpaid overtime adds up. Those extra hours? They're not going unnoticed, and they’re definitely costing the company more than they’d admit!

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    #48

    Skyscrapers reflecting a blue sky symbolize corporate secrets employers keep from employees. Names of their shell companies.....

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    Kat Alison
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Isn’t that a fancy term for money laundering?

    SkyyCaramba
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the way Enron did its scam way through shell companies, most of which were unknown to the public

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    #49

    Person using calculator and reviewing documents at a desk, focusing on what employers might hide from employees. I've always believed *there ought to be a law* that requires employers to listed the wages and compensation of ALL employees.

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    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Certainly any publicly owned company. The stockholders (and prospective stockholders) have a right to that information.

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    #50

    Hand analyzing employee salary charts on a desk, focusing on data insights with a pen. Sometimes, companies just - steal from employees. Directly.

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