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In A Heartbreaking Open Letter, Doctor Explains Why He Checks Facebook Of His Dead Patients Before Notifying Their Parents
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In A Heartbreaking Open Letter, Doctor Explains Why He Checks Facebook Of His Dead Patients Before Notifying Their Parents

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One of the hardest challenges we face in life is the death of a loved one. But what we usually don’t see, is how breaking this devastating news to someone can be emotionally taxing for doctors as well. They are the first ones to see the suffering families and yet must to remain calm and professional.

Recently, Louis M. Profeta, an emergency physician at St. Vincent Hospital in Indianapolis, shared a sad and touching story about breaking the news to a parent that their child didn’t make it. Scroll down below to read the full story and learn why he always checks the Facebook profile of the patients that he loses. Be prepared to shed a tear or two! (Facebook cover image: PhotoSpirit)

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A doctor revealed that he always checks the Facebook accounts of his dead patients before breaking the news to their parents

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In a heartbreaking open letter, the doctor explained why he feels it is his duty to “learn just a little bit” about his former patients

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The doctor also described the devastating feelings that he faces whenever such a tragedy strikes

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To some people, the open letter was not only touching but also eye-opening

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Neringa Utaraitė

Neringa Utaraitė

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Neringa is a proud writer at Bored Panda who used to study English and French linguistics. Although she has many different interests, she's particularly drawn to covering stories about pop culture as well as history. While not at the office, this Panda enjoys creepy movies, poetry, photography and learning how to play the piano.

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Julie He
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When my patient is dying, I am affected for weeks to months. I cried when my patient facetimed her adult son who is running to get on the next flight and let him know that she is not going to make it. Sometimes I am more emotionally exhausted after work than anything. I wont look up anyone's facebook, but I like listening to the family member tell me about the patient, how many kids and grandkids they have, what they did, and all the good memories that the had.

Isla Reyne
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have the utmost respect and love for people that do what you do. Even veterinarians. I don't have it in me, but I'm glad that people like you do. Otherwise, where would the rest of us be?

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Eric Bosco
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can relate to this open letter better than I’d care to admit. I spent nearly 15 years in emergency medicine. Through those years I got hurt and saw horrible things. But with out a doubt in my mind the hardest part of the job was telling family their loved ones were gone. As they begged us to try something, anything but it was too late. People often ask what the worst thing I saw was. It’s never what people expect, they expect a tale of carnage. It was Christmas morning and a mans two small kids found him dead in his sleep. He had proposed to their mom just hours earlier and she was pregnant with their 3rd child. The agony in those faces and the pleading with us to try is something I will never be able to unsee or forget. You never know when your day will come.

Tony Moon
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a prior Marine, my wife is a medical professional, and I am surrounded by medical professionals from my wife's work. She used to work trauma-neuro and it always amazed me. As hardened of a Marine as I am with the loss of life that I had to deal with, my wife, the prior Army Medic, went back into a profession where so many are having the worst day of their lives and she and her co-workers thrive. Everyday they work to keep one more alive, everyday she comes home defeated because someone gave up before she could give them that one last assistance. But everyday she wakes up renewed and charged to help that next person that comes in needing her help. Its an absolute calling and I commend all medical professionals for the selfless works of heroism that they perform everyday. I am not worthy to be married to the angel that I am.

Agnes Jekyll
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are worthy. She needs you, you appreciate her, respect her, and you are proud of her. You, and your attitude towards her, give her a lot of the strength she needs to do her job everyday--you are absolutely worthy of her.

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Parmeisan
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To the people mad at the doctor for blaming the patient... that's exactly what he's trying not to do. He probably knows roughly what happened to bring them to his surgery, and in cases where they did make a dumb mistake (as we all do) he intentionally takes a step back and reminds himself that they were human and it was just a dumb mistake.

Pamela24
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you for putting it this way. I was getting angry at the doctor and angry at myself at the same time but you really put it in the perspective. The doctor is a hero just like any of his colleagues all around the world.

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incoherent screaming
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I couldn't make it through the whole post. As someone who has seriously considered taking their own life, this hit way to close to home, and now all I want to do is apologize to everyone in my life, and even to people I don't know personally, but may know me, for being so selfish and weak.

Nia Loves Art
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are not selfish and weak. You are strong for staying alive and not acting on your suicidal urges.

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JMQ
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I swear to god, this broke my heart... My best friend's brother died in the ER last month and it broke her. I'm sitting here sobbing to myself and wondering how strong of a person you must be to endure telling someone their loved one has died and not breaking down. You are a treasure of a person and you must be protected at all costs. F**k them onion cutting ninjas.

Light
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You try to detach yourself. It is just a job. They are just a job. But when faced with their death it’s like you got sucker punched. And there is a lingering heavy weight in your chest, some weeks and you shake it off others you will not completely shake off.

KT Trondsen
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is a horrible thing as a hospital employee to be witnesd to. Im at the front er desk, when the mom and dad comd in and ask which bed their child is in... To see their faces when they realise their child is dead. The wailing.....to see brothers and sisters break down as the reality starts to set in, the geavity of the situation. I still see certain patients faces, they haunt me. There are some events you just cant forget or unsee. Some are people doing drugs for the first time and its laced and they die. Other times someone was texting while driving and kill someone else and their baby, suicides... If only the people doing these things could see how their actions affect many around them afterwards for years and years after, just maybe they would choose differently

Jean van der Merwe
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This doctor sounds very nice. Nearly all the doctors I know have numbed their feelings to such an extent in order to cope with the things they see, that they barely see live patients as people anymore. This one at least has compassion. I do find it strange though that he assumes when a young person dies that it is their own fault. Many people die through no fault of their own. That said, this was a window into the world we don’t always know. Thank you.

Full Name
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Statistically speaking, its rare that young people die at random. More drunk drivers die than innocent people in the another vehicle. Not many young people die of diseases etc. It's usually their own fault.

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Christine Cameron
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A different angle on this, I have an acquaintance who learned her son had been murdered during the night when she logged on to Facebook and one of HIS friends had rushed there to leave a tribute. After a few minutes frantically hoping it was a joke and texting him without answer, the police arrived at her door. She now makes it part of her mission to urge people NOT to rush to Facebook with news like this when it's possible the victim's family hasn't even been notified.

Ellis
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Probably done with the best intentions, but quite inconsiderate of that friend. So sorry she lost her sonand so sorry she had to find out this way.

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Kathleen
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Makes me sad that this doctor assumes the patient was at fault by doing something stupid (sometimes yes, they were but not always). This person may not have let their parents down or been involved in drug use. This patients death might have been another stupid persons fault. I understand where he is coming from in some situations but overall he automatically looks down on them. Sometime it will inevitably be his turn to be looked down on.

Carol Emory
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He may have been referring to those patients that die from their own stupid mistakes...not someone elses. When you end up in the ER because you were too stupid to pay attention to how precious your life is to you and others around you...they have every right to blame you. He refers to the families that beg him to do anything to save them from their stupid mistake rather than get angry at whomever caused the person to be in the ER. As one who has had friends die from their own stupid mistakes AND at the hands of other peoples stupid mistakes..there is a difference in the approach to delivering the bad news.

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Betsy Zbiegiel
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a funeral director, I actually have to refrain from doing that. I did a few times and it f***** me up too hard. There's nothing more I can do for those people. There's no need for me to carry it home with me for weeks on end.

Alusair Alustriel
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As much as I respect that doctor for his attitude I dislike how he "blames" the late patient. Assuming someone died because of their own action is quite hurtful. Especially when it comes down to accidents of any sort, be it the road ones or other type caused by a thrid party. Very often the dead person had nothing to do with causing their death...

Karen Klinck
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's a doctor. He'd know whether it was something stupid they did--like a coke or heroin or whatever overdose, drunk driving, etc. I worked in a hospital record room; we filed all the toxicology reports in the charts. So he'd know if the blood alcohol level was over .8....

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Wil Vanderheijden
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The doctor blames all the deceased for their death. Surely he must have seen people who were killed by wreckless drivers, psychopathic murders or who were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Sending out a message to think before you act is ok, but blaming everyone who dies for being inconsiderate towards their loved ones is just being jerk.

Aunt Messy
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most of his patients are only in the emergency room because THEY have done something so unutterably stupid that their deaths make their lives a joke. This doctor sees hundreds of patients a week and he loses people every day. ...///... I remember my sister whining after she had overdosed (her "good buddies") dumped her out of a car outside the hospital as she was convulsing) because her doctor just lost it and gave her hell. She got ZERO sympathy from anyone.

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Trixster Million
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why does the doctor feel the need to blame the patient's death on the patient? Sometimes accidents are another person's fault or just acts of God. Is it guilt?

Tracy Sellars
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately it is because more often than not it's is the fault of the patient. So many people text and drive, drink and drive and do drugs and drive. Not to mention binge on alcohol and/or drugs. Ignoring just how dangerous and stupid their actions are or how they could affect others. I can understand his anger because how the hell do you tell a parent that not only is their child dead. But they are dead because of their own stupidity.

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Buzz Anderson
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

HE left out the part about WHY you didn't get vaccinated. Not just the accidents or drug overdoses. AND he did leave out one other thing. NOT THEIR FAULT. Some drunk hit them. They were in the crossfire of a gang fight, the car jumped the curb and hit them. SO many reasons it is not their fault. I get he is trying to send a message to those WHO PUT THEMSELVES in that drunk driving, shooting up too much etc. but don't forget the idiots who refused to get vaccinated as well.

Kevin Hayward
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My family does not know this but they are the only thing that keeps me alive. Everyday I smile threw the pain but secretly I pray for death

Kevin Hayward
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My family is the only thing keeping me on this Earth. I can't do that to them but, I pray for death every day

Kelly
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are not selfish and weak, it's human to have those instincts. I'm on psic treatment, due to cancer because depression and suicidal thoughts often belong to this illness, therefore I can understand your feelings. I hope you can find help and a reason for life, wish you all the best.

Can OZTOPRAK
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The front photo of this article is a man with a PCF sticker (Parti Communiste Français), a french Communist party. I'm just trying to figuring why tf did you put this photo on this article. Try to put another stock image more related to the context next time ;)

Mae
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I also wanted to be a doctor (or a veterinarian) but I always knew inside of me that I was mentally too weak for it. I don't have what it takes to bear bad news to someone about their loved one be it their son or their cat... I have so much respect for all medical professionals, it's a difficult job.

Estrella Verde
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dont use my real name anywhere on solcial media so this would work for me.

Isla Reyne
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This had me crying big time. I was against the banning of 13 Reasons Why, as well. People were saying it might trigger people. I say it didn't glorify death. It showed the destruction and devastation to everyone after the person is dead. It showed all the misunderstandings that could have been solved through communication, the temporary feelings of depression and angst that could have been fixed through therapy or medication, and it shows how horrible it is to be selfish enough to take your life over something that would have passed eventually and leave behind people that will forever doubt and second guess themselves and who will forever look upon your memories as tainted. I am going to show this to my 13 year old daughter. I think it should be required reading in grade schools.

Alexandra Davis
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ive nearly does a few times in hospital and know the female medical staff well, one of those said they do the same and that she wouldn't have to do that with now as she knows me so well. But also because she knows me so well she hopes even more that she never has to have the talk with them!

Ellis
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There’s mistakes and there’s being ignorant and reckless with your life and that of others around you. Learn the difference before you put yourself or someone else on the coronor’s slab

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kfox
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please don't forget the siblings... Everyone else does. 😪

Mazer
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Too bad not all medical professionals care about patients.

Adrian Ceroni
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The title of this article is highly misleading. I thought the doctor thought EVERY patient was reckless...

Marnee DeRider
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Then there are those who, if they died, the good Doctor would have no one to notify who would care....No next of kin. The void in the world would be swallowed up in a millisecond, unnoticed. A good day for the Doctor.

Joe Kazilionis
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is entirely possible that the person who was inconsiderate enough to die in your presence was innocently on their way home after seeing a movie and was killed by a drunk in another car. Your swearing at them because basically the

Joe Kazilionis
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because basically they interrupted your life by dying in your presence. Not impressed

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Skink Dog
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dear Doctor who decides to shame people who are suicidal - eff you, you have no idea how it is.

Spencer N/A
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6 years ago

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If he's that sensitive he should get a new job...like geez, move on, you don't know the deceased, your job is to break the news, not spend your mobile data on knowing an idiot who did a stupid thing and died meaninglessly from non-natural causes most likely as a mindless sheep, following others fall off a cliff

DancingToMyself
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6 years ago

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That's just a lot of c**p. What ER doctor has the time to go through someone's fb account?! After he lost the patient? Before telling the parents? Oh come on... He wouldn't even be able to his job. Doctor who works in ER, specifically in ER, have to be fast in every possible way. That's just stupid.

Ellis
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes they need a couple of minutes to pull themselves together. Like when, y’know, a patient dies. Do you really think they have no emotions and just happily walk over to the next patient a few seconds after someone lost his/her life in their hands?

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Vonskippy
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6 years ago

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This whole story smells of horse hockey. First off, there isn't a Dr. Profeta listed on St. Vincents Staff Registry. Second, I don't know of a ER Doc that would EVER spend that much time - other patients are dying and he's playing with his iPhone looking at Facebook pages, and third, it just doesn't happen - from your first day at med school you're trained to distant yourself from your patients so that you can focus on the medicine and not the emotions. You're taught never to get to close because then the deaths, the tragedies, the bad things happening to good people just get way to close for you to do your job the way you need to. So yeah, I'm guessing another fictional piece here on BP.

jknbt jknbt
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6 years ago

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HEY DOC...if you are that emotionally involved with your patients, you have lost your objectivity & are making wrong decisions without realizing it...time to move on to another branch of medicine, okay? How about starting a private practice? I wish I had access to an experienced MD who really cares about his patients...most of them look on their patients as my 2:00 appointment for which I will get paid $XXX dollars with another $XXX dollars waiting for me if I get rid of them fast enough...

Meowton Mewsk
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6 years ago

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This reads like a Facebook ad. And I say that because it’s pretty compelling. Almost makes you want to open a Facebook account. Almost.

Julie He
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When my patient is dying, I am affected for weeks to months. I cried when my patient facetimed her adult son who is running to get on the next flight and let him know that she is not going to make it. Sometimes I am more emotionally exhausted after work than anything. I wont look up anyone's facebook, but I like listening to the family member tell me about the patient, how many kids and grandkids they have, what they did, and all the good memories that the had.

Isla Reyne
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have the utmost respect and love for people that do what you do. Even veterinarians. I don't have it in me, but I'm glad that people like you do. Otherwise, where would the rest of us be?

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Eric Bosco
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can relate to this open letter better than I’d care to admit. I spent nearly 15 years in emergency medicine. Through those years I got hurt and saw horrible things. But with out a doubt in my mind the hardest part of the job was telling family their loved ones were gone. As they begged us to try something, anything but it was too late. People often ask what the worst thing I saw was. It’s never what people expect, they expect a tale of carnage. It was Christmas morning and a mans two small kids found him dead in his sleep. He had proposed to their mom just hours earlier and she was pregnant with their 3rd child. The agony in those faces and the pleading with us to try is something I will never be able to unsee or forget. You never know when your day will come.

Tony Moon
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a prior Marine, my wife is a medical professional, and I am surrounded by medical professionals from my wife's work. She used to work trauma-neuro and it always amazed me. As hardened of a Marine as I am with the loss of life that I had to deal with, my wife, the prior Army Medic, went back into a profession where so many are having the worst day of their lives and she and her co-workers thrive. Everyday they work to keep one more alive, everyday she comes home defeated because someone gave up before she could give them that one last assistance. But everyday she wakes up renewed and charged to help that next person that comes in needing her help. Its an absolute calling and I commend all medical professionals for the selfless works of heroism that they perform everyday. I am not worthy to be married to the angel that I am.

Agnes Jekyll
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are worthy. She needs you, you appreciate her, respect her, and you are proud of her. You, and your attitude towards her, give her a lot of the strength she needs to do her job everyday--you are absolutely worthy of her.

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Parmeisan
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To the people mad at the doctor for blaming the patient... that's exactly what he's trying not to do. He probably knows roughly what happened to bring them to his surgery, and in cases where they did make a dumb mistake (as we all do) he intentionally takes a step back and reminds himself that they were human and it was just a dumb mistake.

Pamela24
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank you for putting it this way. I was getting angry at the doctor and angry at myself at the same time but you really put it in the perspective. The doctor is a hero just like any of his colleagues all around the world.

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incoherent screaming
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I couldn't make it through the whole post. As someone who has seriously considered taking their own life, this hit way to close to home, and now all I want to do is apologize to everyone in my life, and even to people I don't know personally, but may know me, for being so selfish and weak.

Nia Loves Art
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are not selfish and weak. You are strong for staying alive and not acting on your suicidal urges.

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JMQ
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I swear to god, this broke my heart... My best friend's brother died in the ER last month and it broke her. I'm sitting here sobbing to myself and wondering how strong of a person you must be to endure telling someone their loved one has died and not breaking down. You are a treasure of a person and you must be protected at all costs. F**k them onion cutting ninjas.

Light
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You try to detach yourself. It is just a job. They are just a job. But when faced with their death it’s like you got sucker punched. And there is a lingering heavy weight in your chest, some weeks and you shake it off others you will not completely shake off.

KT Trondsen
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is a horrible thing as a hospital employee to be witnesd to. Im at the front er desk, when the mom and dad comd in and ask which bed their child is in... To see their faces when they realise their child is dead. The wailing.....to see brothers and sisters break down as the reality starts to set in, the geavity of the situation. I still see certain patients faces, they haunt me. There are some events you just cant forget or unsee. Some are people doing drugs for the first time and its laced and they die. Other times someone was texting while driving and kill someone else and their baby, suicides... If only the people doing these things could see how their actions affect many around them afterwards for years and years after, just maybe they would choose differently

Jean van der Merwe
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This doctor sounds very nice. Nearly all the doctors I know have numbed their feelings to such an extent in order to cope with the things they see, that they barely see live patients as people anymore. This one at least has compassion. I do find it strange though that he assumes when a young person dies that it is their own fault. Many people die through no fault of their own. That said, this was a window into the world we don’t always know. Thank you.

Full Name
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Statistically speaking, its rare that young people die at random. More drunk drivers die than innocent people in the another vehicle. Not many young people die of diseases etc. It's usually their own fault.

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Christine Cameron
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A different angle on this, I have an acquaintance who learned her son had been murdered during the night when she logged on to Facebook and one of HIS friends had rushed there to leave a tribute. After a few minutes frantically hoping it was a joke and texting him without answer, the police arrived at her door. She now makes it part of her mission to urge people NOT to rush to Facebook with news like this when it's possible the victim's family hasn't even been notified.

Ellis
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Probably done with the best intentions, but quite inconsiderate of that friend. So sorry she lost her sonand so sorry she had to find out this way.

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Kathleen
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Makes me sad that this doctor assumes the patient was at fault by doing something stupid (sometimes yes, they were but not always). This person may not have let their parents down or been involved in drug use. This patients death might have been another stupid persons fault. I understand where he is coming from in some situations but overall he automatically looks down on them. Sometime it will inevitably be his turn to be looked down on.

Carol Emory
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He may have been referring to those patients that die from their own stupid mistakes...not someone elses. When you end up in the ER because you were too stupid to pay attention to how precious your life is to you and others around you...they have every right to blame you. He refers to the families that beg him to do anything to save them from their stupid mistake rather than get angry at whomever caused the person to be in the ER. As one who has had friends die from their own stupid mistakes AND at the hands of other peoples stupid mistakes..there is a difference in the approach to delivering the bad news.

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Betsy Zbiegiel
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a funeral director, I actually have to refrain from doing that. I did a few times and it f***** me up too hard. There's nothing more I can do for those people. There's no need for me to carry it home with me for weeks on end.

Alusair Alustriel
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As much as I respect that doctor for his attitude I dislike how he "blames" the late patient. Assuming someone died because of their own action is quite hurtful. Especially when it comes down to accidents of any sort, be it the road ones or other type caused by a thrid party. Very often the dead person had nothing to do with causing their death...

Karen Klinck
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's a doctor. He'd know whether it was something stupid they did--like a coke or heroin or whatever overdose, drunk driving, etc. I worked in a hospital record room; we filed all the toxicology reports in the charts. So he'd know if the blood alcohol level was over .8....

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Wil Vanderheijden
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The doctor blames all the deceased for their death. Surely he must have seen people who were killed by wreckless drivers, psychopathic murders or who were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Sending out a message to think before you act is ok, but blaming everyone who dies for being inconsiderate towards their loved ones is just being jerk.

Aunt Messy
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most of his patients are only in the emergency room because THEY have done something so unutterably stupid that their deaths make their lives a joke. This doctor sees hundreds of patients a week and he loses people every day. ...///... I remember my sister whining after she had overdosed (her "good buddies") dumped her out of a car outside the hospital as she was convulsing) because her doctor just lost it and gave her hell. She got ZERO sympathy from anyone.

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Trixster Million
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why does the doctor feel the need to blame the patient's death on the patient? Sometimes accidents are another person's fault or just acts of God. Is it guilt?

Tracy Sellars
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately it is because more often than not it's is the fault of the patient. So many people text and drive, drink and drive and do drugs and drive. Not to mention binge on alcohol and/or drugs. Ignoring just how dangerous and stupid their actions are or how they could affect others. I can understand his anger because how the hell do you tell a parent that not only is their child dead. But they are dead because of their own stupidity.

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Buzz Anderson
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

HE left out the part about WHY you didn't get vaccinated. Not just the accidents or drug overdoses. AND he did leave out one other thing. NOT THEIR FAULT. Some drunk hit them. They were in the crossfire of a gang fight, the car jumped the curb and hit them. SO many reasons it is not their fault. I get he is trying to send a message to those WHO PUT THEMSELVES in that drunk driving, shooting up too much etc. but don't forget the idiots who refused to get vaccinated as well.

Kevin Hayward
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My family does not know this but they are the only thing that keeps me alive. Everyday I smile threw the pain but secretly I pray for death

Kevin Hayward
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My family is the only thing keeping me on this Earth. I can't do that to them but, I pray for death every day

Kelly
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are not selfish and weak, it's human to have those instincts. I'm on psic treatment, due to cancer because depression and suicidal thoughts often belong to this illness, therefore I can understand your feelings. I hope you can find help and a reason for life, wish you all the best.

Can OZTOPRAK
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The front photo of this article is a man with a PCF sticker (Parti Communiste Français), a french Communist party. I'm just trying to figuring why tf did you put this photo on this article. Try to put another stock image more related to the context next time ;)

Mae
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I also wanted to be a doctor (or a veterinarian) but I always knew inside of me that I was mentally too weak for it. I don't have what it takes to bear bad news to someone about their loved one be it their son or their cat... I have so much respect for all medical professionals, it's a difficult job.

Estrella Verde
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dont use my real name anywhere on solcial media so this would work for me.

Isla Reyne
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This had me crying big time. I was against the banning of 13 Reasons Why, as well. People were saying it might trigger people. I say it didn't glorify death. It showed the destruction and devastation to everyone after the person is dead. It showed all the misunderstandings that could have been solved through communication, the temporary feelings of depression and angst that could have been fixed through therapy or medication, and it shows how horrible it is to be selfish enough to take your life over something that would have passed eventually and leave behind people that will forever doubt and second guess themselves and who will forever look upon your memories as tainted. I am going to show this to my 13 year old daughter. I think it should be required reading in grade schools.

Alexandra Davis
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ive nearly does a few times in hospital and know the female medical staff well, one of those said they do the same and that she wouldn't have to do that with now as she knows me so well. But also because she knows me so well she hopes even more that she never has to have the talk with them!

Ellis
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There’s mistakes and there’s being ignorant and reckless with your life and that of others around you. Learn the difference before you put yourself or someone else on the coronor’s slab

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kfox
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please don't forget the siblings... Everyone else does. 😪

Mazer
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Too bad not all medical professionals care about patients.

Adrian Ceroni
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The title of this article is highly misleading. I thought the doctor thought EVERY patient was reckless...

Marnee DeRider
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Then there are those who, if they died, the good Doctor would have no one to notify who would care....No next of kin. The void in the world would be swallowed up in a millisecond, unnoticed. A good day for the Doctor.

Joe Kazilionis
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is entirely possible that the person who was inconsiderate enough to die in your presence was innocently on their way home after seeing a movie and was killed by a drunk in another car. Your swearing at them because basically the

Joe Kazilionis
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because basically they interrupted your life by dying in your presence. Not impressed

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Skink Dog
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dear Doctor who decides to shame people who are suicidal - eff you, you have no idea how it is.

Spencer N/A
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6 years ago

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If he's that sensitive he should get a new job...like geez, move on, you don't know the deceased, your job is to break the news, not spend your mobile data on knowing an idiot who did a stupid thing and died meaninglessly from non-natural causes most likely as a mindless sheep, following others fall off a cliff

DancingToMyself
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6 years ago

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That's just a lot of c**p. What ER doctor has the time to go through someone's fb account?! After he lost the patient? Before telling the parents? Oh come on... He wouldn't even be able to his job. Doctor who works in ER, specifically in ER, have to be fast in every possible way. That's just stupid.

Ellis
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes they need a couple of minutes to pull themselves together. Like when, y’know, a patient dies. Do you really think they have no emotions and just happily walk over to the next patient a few seconds after someone lost his/her life in their hands?

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Vonskippy
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6 years ago

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This whole story smells of horse hockey. First off, there isn't a Dr. Profeta listed on St. Vincents Staff Registry. Second, I don't know of a ER Doc that would EVER spend that much time - other patients are dying and he's playing with his iPhone looking at Facebook pages, and third, it just doesn't happen - from your first day at med school you're trained to distant yourself from your patients so that you can focus on the medicine and not the emotions. You're taught never to get to close because then the deaths, the tragedies, the bad things happening to good people just get way to close for you to do your job the way you need to. So yeah, I'm guessing another fictional piece here on BP.

jknbt jknbt
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6 years ago

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HEY DOC...if you are that emotionally involved with your patients, you have lost your objectivity & are making wrong decisions without realizing it...time to move on to another branch of medicine, okay? How about starting a private practice? I wish I had access to an experienced MD who really cares about his patients...most of them look on their patients as my 2:00 appointment for which I will get paid $XXX dollars with another $XXX dollars waiting for me if I get rid of them fast enough...

Meowton Mewsk
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6 years ago

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This reads like a Facebook ad. And I say that because it’s pretty compelling. Almost makes you want to open a Facebook account. Almost.

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