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Man Dumps GF After She Expects Him To Foot $1,100 Bill Since He’s “The Man,” Starts To Regret It
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Man Dumps GF After She Expects Him To Foot $1,100 Bill Since He’s “The Man,” Starts To Regret It

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If you are in a relationship, chances are you disagree with your partner on certain things. It could be about them leaving dirty clothes everywhere or their habit of always being late. While these disputes can be resolved amicably, sometimes a fight can escalate quickly.

For instance, a man took to Reddit to share how his girlfriend’s expensive expectations led him to break off their 4-year relationship. The author had booked a table at a fancy restaurant for his girlfriend’s birthday and even invited four of her friends. However, things took an ugly turn when the bill arrived. Continue reading to find out how the author’s nice gesture led to their breakup.

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A man shared how his girlfriend’s behavior changed after he split the bill for her birthday dinner with her friends

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The man even divulged more details about the entire incident

Relationships can be complicated

Deciding to end a relationship is always difficult, especially when you’ve been together for a long time. However, sometimes merely sticking together can lead to even more pain in the future, especially if there are unresolved issues.

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Susan South, a professor of clinical psychology at Purdue University, told the Insider, “Two truly nice, lovely people could be in a relationship together, and it could just not work because they don’t mesh with what they need from each other.”

Therefore, sometimes you should let it go for your own sanity and well-being. Communication is the glue that holds any relationship together. Heart-to-heart conversations with your partner help build trust and strengthen your bond with them.

When both partners can honestly share their dreams and fears with each other, it deepens the emotional intimacy between them. However, if you start feeling uncomfortable about expressing your emotions every time you see them, then maybe things are not going well between you two.

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People break up because their needs, values, or expectations are not met

Besides getting along with one another, it is essential that couples help each other achieve their goals. Therefore, when partners actively support each other’s aspirations, it makes you aim higher and expand your horizons. Whether you’re running marathons or trying to switch careers, it’s helpful to have your boyfriend or girlfriend by your side.

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Cheating in any relationship is a big no-no. If your partner starts seeing other people behind your back, then it’s time to throw them out of your life. Infidelity is one of the most common reasons people break up. Some other reasons include family interference, unresolved past issues, jealousy and insecurities.

Long-distance relationships can also be quite challenging. You might feel frustrated when you are not able to physically celebrate the big and small things in life with your boyfriend or girlfriend. Also, there are times when people start feeling separation anxiety. Further, if your partner lives in a faraway place from yours, you might find yourself lonely and depressed. About 60% of long-distance relationships end well, according to the New York Post.

Sometimes, difficulties in relationships arise over money matters. Such issues may be rooted in divergent views on how you and your partner spend or save money. Your irresponsible spending habits or debts could lead to fights. To begin with, finances should always be clearly sorted out.

Another reason couples part ways is having unrealistic expectations of each other. If one expects their partner to pay all the bills or believes they will magically know what you’re thinking or feeling, then things can go wrong quite easily.

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In the case of this Redditor, the guy could have communicated about the party expenses from the start. But it was not very kind of the woman to expect he would foot the entire bill. Who do you think was at fault here? Have you ever been in such a predicament?

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Many people felt the girlfriend’s expectations were unrealistic and her behavior was rude

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Others felt that since the author was the host, he should have covered the entire celebration

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Some felt both the girlfriend and boyfriend are to blame for this mess

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Alexandra
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For me it's not so much the misassumptions about the paying of the meal, but more about OP's girlfriend's reaction afterwards. Silent treatment, insisting on apologies, calling names.....those are bloodred flags OP should take into consideration when thinking about getting back with her. Girlfriend does not resolve issues in a healthy way.

millac
Community Member
1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But neither does he. Four years and he doesn't even give her time to find a new place, but chucked her in the street immediately. Based on his comments, he honestly thinks this is about a few hundred dollars. It really, really isn't. It's likely more about image, reputation, the impact on her friends, and his cumulative attitude with money. He's also super ready and willing to believe she's a gold digger, but her willingness to leave him doesn't make that ring true and makes me wonder why she's willing to give up her housing to break up with him. Even her message afterwards isn't begging to come back.

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Ira Bodrova
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In my country, it is customary that the birthday person pays for dinner, and the guests give gifts. But usually this is a pre-selected menu with a specific budget. In any case, ordering the most expensive dishes without prior payment arrangements is rude and mean.

StumblingThroughLife
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All the YTAers come across as entitled as the GF & her friends. Full NTA. I've been invited to MANY birthday parties and I''ve NEVER assumed that they would pay. In fact, ALL the guests put in ££ for the Birthday girl/boy. OP deserves a better GF. BTW, Dollars are mentioned in a lot of Reddit posts, yet he said Euros (there are other denominations in the world, lol).

Fat Harry (Oi / You)
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BP always tries to present these things as if there's a split opinion on NTA or YTA, but if you look at the upvotes for each type of post, the NTAs have THOUSANDS of upvotes, whereas the top YTA has less than 10. It's not even close to being an even split, yet BP tries to present it as if it is.

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Therese Ernholdt
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s always interesting seeing people address the cultural context in these sorts of posts. It’s obvious that depending on where you’re from you can be regarded as the innocent or the guilty person in the same situation. In Sweden I don’t think I ever had a situation where anyone assumed someone else was paying unless it was mentioned beforehand. Like there’s a difference between “should we go out for dinner to celebrate x birthday” and “I want to take you guys out for dinner to celebrate x birthday, my treat”

S. H.
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The thing about this post is that it could have simply been a cultural issue Or a miscommunication. Her mask slipped off and And she nooked her relationship instead

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KatSaidWhat
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Was going YTA until I read SHE wanted them invited. So this is on her. Run, OP, she's shown true colours here. Wrapped in a bow of red flags.

Gabriele Alfredo Pini
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For me the big problems is that they ordered what they wanted... My parents taught me that if you are invited you order on the same price of the host order or less, no more.

KatZen
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes. That was the first giant red flag. Even if he did agree to pay that is so rude to order the most expensive stuff. You just know she told them to do that unless they were all raised so poorly.

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Beak Hookage
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I got taken out to a restaurant as part of an event once, and assumed the host would be paying. Then when the bill arrived I found out actually we were all paying for ourselves. So I went "oh, right, my mistake" and paid, feeling a bit embarrassed. But yeah, girlfriend sounds really mean and selfish, not to mention manipulative and sexist.

Michael Largey
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She doesn't regard you as the MAN. She looks at you as the WALLET.

Tobias Reaper
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if he paid for her friends that one occasion after that argument he would be doing all the time as she know he will do it. The remark about him being the man imagine if he made that remark to her about something say cleaning the house and said your the worman. Also if she wanted him to pay for her friends she should have at the very least asked rather than assumed.

varwenea
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A few things the reddit comments did not specifically point out: - He pays the vast amount of their expenses. How dare she call him a broke boy with that fact? - She clearly is showing off my wealthy bf and is embarrassed when he didn't pay. That’s her losing face, but also her problem, not his. - He invited the others only per her request. His one mistake is not clarifying that they are paying themselves with this invitation. He is acting as organizer, not host. - The friends presented themselves as gold diggers by ordering the most expensive items. That's a reflection of the gf, too. A bad look. Overall, he dodged a bullet. She can find herself another guy to leech off.

MaryHadaLittleLamb
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if I KNEW the host was paying, I wouldn't order the most expensive item on the menu, out of respect for them. That's rude.

Carney
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Run, do not walk, away from this woman. The who pays question is minor considering the rest of the story. It would have been nice if everyone was clear on payment prior to the dinner, but that ship sailed. The real problem, the one that highlights your GF's personality, is her reaction. Her choice not to speak to you, not to voice her concern and then to be entrenched in her entitlement speaks volumes. The name calling at the end is just more evidence that she needs to do some serious growing up. Should you have paid for everyone? That really is not the point, but at least learn that, in the future, you clarify these things before the event. Meanwhile, do an honest self-inventory about what you really want in a partner. I don't think it is what this woman is capable of giving.

A S Mora
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Buddy, is this really who you want to be the mother of your future kids??

Dave
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I lived with an otherwise fine woman who played the "guess why I'm mad" game. I vowed never ever to play that game again and have never regretted it. It's pure passive-aggressive bs.

Lee Banks
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If invited to something I cannot afford, I politely decline, and state why. Sometimes people offer to cover me, sometimes they don't. Either way is fine. What I would Never do is expect someone to pay, or give my partner the silent treatment. That is cruel and unproductive. You deserve better.

Spudgun
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Get a grip of yourself. Why should you pay for them. Better off without her. You're being used as a meal ticket.

Karina
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I accidentally woted "she is right". I hate these polls

T'Mar of Vulcan
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm South African but if I ask people to a restaurant for my b-day, I don't say, "I'm inviting you," I say, "Will you come with me?" and make sure to clarify that they must pay for themselves. And if I go anywhere - even if someone has specifically invited me - I make sure to order something I can pay for myself just in case - because people aren't always great at communicating.

Julia Cargile
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a reason you broke up with her and I don't think it has to do with money. Send your ex these respones and see what she does.

Jumping Jellyfishes
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if for some reason you think he is in the wrong, the malicious name-calling shows she has a hidden nasty streak. Big red flag there. Time to say goodbye

RP
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The stuff she said afterwards is rank but the expectation that he would pay as he did the inviting is a grey area. I would always expect to pay as a guest and come prepared, but if I invite a small group of close friends out to a restaurant I choose for a special occasion, I would definitely expect to pay for my guests, or at the every least offer to.

Tara Bolden
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She expected him to pay for everything and told her friends, so they figured they would order the most expensive things on the menu - on his dime. There is NO excuse for this, unless he specifically said he would pay, then backed out on it. DUMP HER

DC and S
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Today I learned... Seems there are a lot of places where the invitee is expected to be host/pay unless stated otherwise. That's unheard of where I live. It's the opposite; everyone always pays for themselves (or in couples). You might split the guest of honour's cost... But even they'll argue with you not to. So if OP is somewhere like here, it would be absolutely expected that all guests pay for themselves unless it was made explicitly clear that it was his "treat". And even then the guests would still try their best to pay for themselves, or offer to cover something else in return.

Fairytails From Other Worlds
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was once invited to a birthday dinner by his (birthday-boy) wife. The custom here is that the person whose birthday it is, doesn’t pay but the others share their bill, and each pays their own. Now, I was pregnant at the time and there to celebrate him, not for the dinner really. I couldn’t eat much more than a bit of lettuce if that. I drank water. So, to my surprise, when the bill came, the wife said that “hey, let’s share the bill! He and I won’t take part of course.” The others were bit hesitant but agreed, after all they were pretty drunk at that point. I protested and said I’ll pay my own plus my share of the birthday-boy’s bill. They would not have it and I didn’t want to argue so I ended up paying 240€-ish for a piece of lettuce. And with my budget it was way too much. A month’s worth of groceries (yea I know, stuff was cheaper back then). Never again. Still angry after all these years.

S. H.
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just celebrated my bday. My BF paid for the entire dinner. There were 8 people. He took care of it because he likes take care of me. This extends to the people that I care about. That being said, he does that out of the kindness of his heart. He is not obligated to do so. If you go out to eat, expect to pay your own bill. Order what you like but also what you can afford to pay for. The amount of people who start ordering high priced things when someone else is paying is just mind boggling to me. If I am paying, I LITERALLY stop them in their tracks and let them know how much they can spend. I've had to do it twice. Both of those people were takers/narcissists. I don't associate with them any longer. This could have been an innocent miscommunication. She could feel really bad because her friends are broke AF and asked her boyfriend to cover the check as a gift to her. They then could have implemented proper communication protocols to prevent this from happening again. Easy peasy.

ANTIVICTORIA
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Etiquette has dictated that the inviter pays for the invitees. Common practices today seem to operate outside of formal etiquette. Technically, you did invite them, but at your GF behest. Clearly she led her friends to expect you to pay, knew the bill would come, and didnt even have the grace to give you a heads up. You dodged a bullet. She sounds awful and manipulative.

Upstaged75
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The people who said YTA are delusional morons! Or they're just as entitled as the ex-GF and her friends.

Steve Hall
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like the girlfriend expects to be taken care of and receive a free ride. Get away now before it becomes too expensive.

WonderWoman
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe OP would have picked up the tab had the others not been gluttonous, greedy people who ordered with abandon.

DadManBlues
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know the local customs, but where I come from, if the organiser hasn't told in advance that everyone pays for their own consumption, it means that everyone is his/her guest.

S. H.
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if that is true, how she handled the miscommunication is the problem. This could have been a simple miscommunication. Let's say the friends couldn't afford the meal. She could have asked him to cover their expenses because they didn't expect to pay for it. She could have asked him to do her that favor as a birthday gift to her and thanked him for it. Done and done. They could have figured out a way to communicate about it in the future And kept on with their relationship. Instead, her mask fell all the way the fck off.

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Craig Reynolds
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, but those who say YTA are overlooking the fact that he initially invited only his girlfriend. It was her suggestion to invite her friends, which he obliged. Therefore, it should be her responsibility to cover the expenses for her friends or reimburse them. His decision to end the relationship is justified if he views her behavior as immature, entitled, and emotionally abusive.

Ginger Winters
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If OP had actually been the one to invite the friends then yeah he should have covered or explained but she decided to invite them which means covering them is on her

Sinners1978
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP mentioned in a response he invited the friends because the ex-GF asked, otherwise it was just going to be the 2 of them. So really ex-GF should have paid for the friends if she is inviting them. OP is NTA but the ex is and a gold digger.

dayngerkat
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really hope the OP had the balls to stay away from this gold digger

Ivy at Eve
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

HIS birthday, HER friends? That started wrong already. I agree with those he could have said something about the check being split in advance, on the other hand, they tagged along to... celebrate his birthday? To eat on his dime? GF surely did care more about losing face to her friends than her BF. Time to re-evaluate the relationship.

WeeBitOfSumfin
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well if he invited them for her birthday "party" I would expect him to pay. It was his idea all along. But if I was the host, I'd set some budget limits or arranged some sort of a limited menu with the restaurant for the occasion.

Mike m
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How about ' Honey, my friends were under the impression we were paying. Will you please pay half of their bill and I'll pay half?"

Patti Lisenbee
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, But you should have made clear from the beginning that you're only paying for self and GF, the others will pay for themselves. Otherwise, this was a good chance to see what the GF was really like and she is NOT worth staying with. She will continue to use and abuse you this way if you let her. Let her GO.

Jeff Prupis
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, however, simply saying to the GF's friends when the bill came "Why don't we just split it, I'll pay for GF and me" would have made THEM look like the cheap AHs if they refused.

sharyn turnicky
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did gf mention you were expected to pay for entire "Banquet "? Did you let all involved know they were paying for own food? The fact that they decided to order by "cost" is telling. Girlfriend 's response says she assumed you were paying and told friends to disregard the cost and go for it. This is awarning of what your future will be.

Eve ill Anderson
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

okay i never thought i'd actually side with the girl here but both parties are wrong, saying 'the man' has to pay is as sexist as objectification gets - however the host who 'made reservations' at the place he apparently chose would yes as the person who organized it be expected to pick up the bill: if not explicitly stated that the party is going dutch, or that you would B.Y.O.B. (in this case buy your own booze but you get me) - like if someone has a party at Chuck-E-Cheeze, Olive Garden, hell at a Denny's being invited to a party assumes that you're a guest - and while it would be a good idea to check with the host as to exactly how 'open' the bar is, anything over 5 people you assume whoever planned the party has budgeted for X heads, probably already made a selection between 2-3 meal options, and is going to tip 20% blah blah blah - like when have you ever had to pay at a wedding? ***if she ASKED him to make reservations for her and friends it's on her

Jacob B.
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dodged a bullet. My wife will often say "let me pay for it" and I always say not to worry about it, my treat. We've been together 25+ years. A few times she got away with it when I hit the restroom. But paying for everyone in your group at a restaurant without discussing it first? WTF?! Whenever we go out with friends the expectation is everyone pays for themselves. Even if its for things like birthdays or something and they are treating you, I still throw a fuss as they do as well when its for them. The entitlement on this person, wow.

Juanita Sullivan
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are NTA! This c**p of the silence treatment is the oldest trick in the book. DO NO MARRY HER! She will continue to do this. The only thing I would say about this is that, maybe splitting the bill should have been mentioned when her friends were invited to join. But her behavior says it all. Some women believe that if they give the silent treatment long enough and make the guy suffer long enough, he will do whatever she wants when she finally speaks up. Seems like you had to get revved up to finally get her to talk which is exactly what she wanted. DO NOT TAKE HER BACK. She wasn't showing any signs of being a partner that wants to deal with things right away. Just wants to get her way. You just saved yourself a life time of heck with this gal.

D. Pitbull
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

... and this is why... unless it's stated outright - I ask. Fine, get mad at me for being so 'blunt' or... 'not coy' or... whatever the garbage term is - If there is any doubt - ask. With some people.... you ask one more time closer to the date because they're the type to conveniently 'forget'. Regarding this situation - the OP's gf's reaction outed herself as someone to NOT be in a relationship with.

Jenny Mason
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm old (56) and if I invited some people out to a restaurant, I would expect to pay for everyone's food. If you don't want to pay for their meals you have to make that very clear upfront, and then people can decide if they can afford to tag along or not.

C.O. Shea
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ahhhh, young love. Principles... wait, sex... but, namecalling and extortion... principles... uh, sex?

Kurtis Karr
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You invite, you pay. Unless other arrangements have been made beforehand.

Paul C
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That would so depend on how the invite was phrased "shall we go out for x's birthday" is clearly all pay your own, "I'm inviting you to join me to celebrate x's birthday" is clearly I'm paying. But this issue isn't about the communication over one meal. It is about how the conflict was discussed like adults, or totally not as in this case.

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Lisa Aquino
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Acutally if you invite people to birthday gathering (or party) the guests don;t pay. Esp if you don't tell the guests ahead of time. Sorry he is in the wrong.

Youu betch
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You said you organize everything so it means you know the consequences that you pay their bill since you invited all of her friends. What do you want to expect them? Pay their own bill? For f sake they don't want extravagant you are the one choosing that resto

FluffyDreg
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you read the story... op didn't invite anyone aside from his EX. And most people do pay their own bill.

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Alexandra
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For me it's not so much the misassumptions about the paying of the meal, but more about OP's girlfriend's reaction afterwards. Silent treatment, insisting on apologies, calling names.....those are bloodred flags OP should take into consideration when thinking about getting back with her. Girlfriend does not resolve issues in a healthy way.

millac
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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But neither does he. Four years and he doesn't even give her time to find a new place, but chucked her in the street immediately. Based on his comments, he honestly thinks this is about a few hundred dollars. It really, really isn't. It's likely more about image, reputation, the impact on her friends, and his cumulative attitude with money. He's also super ready and willing to believe she's a gold digger, but her willingness to leave him doesn't make that ring true and makes me wonder why she's willing to give up her housing to break up with him. Even her message afterwards isn't begging to come back.

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Ira Bodrova
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In my country, it is customary that the birthday person pays for dinner, and the guests give gifts. But usually this is a pre-selected menu with a specific budget. In any case, ordering the most expensive dishes without prior payment arrangements is rude and mean.

StumblingThroughLife
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All the YTAers come across as entitled as the GF & her friends. Full NTA. I've been invited to MANY birthday parties and I''ve NEVER assumed that they would pay. In fact, ALL the guests put in ££ for the Birthday girl/boy. OP deserves a better GF. BTW, Dollars are mentioned in a lot of Reddit posts, yet he said Euros (there are other denominations in the world, lol).

Fat Harry (Oi / You)
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BP always tries to present these things as if there's a split opinion on NTA or YTA, but if you look at the upvotes for each type of post, the NTAs have THOUSANDS of upvotes, whereas the top YTA has less than 10. It's not even close to being an even split, yet BP tries to present it as if it is.

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Therese Ernholdt
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s always interesting seeing people address the cultural context in these sorts of posts. It’s obvious that depending on where you’re from you can be regarded as the innocent or the guilty person in the same situation. In Sweden I don’t think I ever had a situation where anyone assumed someone else was paying unless it was mentioned beforehand. Like there’s a difference between “should we go out for dinner to celebrate x birthday” and “I want to take you guys out for dinner to celebrate x birthday, my treat”

S. H.
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The thing about this post is that it could have simply been a cultural issue Or a miscommunication. Her mask slipped off and And she nooked her relationship instead

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KatSaidWhat
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Was going YTA until I read SHE wanted them invited. So this is on her. Run, OP, she's shown true colours here. Wrapped in a bow of red flags.

Gabriele Alfredo Pini
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For me the big problems is that they ordered what they wanted... My parents taught me that if you are invited you order on the same price of the host order or less, no more.

KatZen
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes. That was the first giant red flag. Even if he did agree to pay that is so rude to order the most expensive stuff. You just know she told them to do that unless they were all raised so poorly.

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Beak Hookage
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I got taken out to a restaurant as part of an event once, and assumed the host would be paying. Then when the bill arrived I found out actually we were all paying for ourselves. So I went "oh, right, my mistake" and paid, feeling a bit embarrassed. But yeah, girlfriend sounds really mean and selfish, not to mention manipulative and sexist.

Michael Largey
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She doesn't regard you as the MAN. She looks at you as the WALLET.

Tobias Reaper
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if he paid for her friends that one occasion after that argument he would be doing all the time as she know he will do it. The remark about him being the man imagine if he made that remark to her about something say cleaning the house and said your the worman. Also if she wanted him to pay for her friends she should have at the very least asked rather than assumed.

varwenea
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A few things the reddit comments did not specifically point out: - He pays the vast amount of their expenses. How dare she call him a broke boy with that fact? - She clearly is showing off my wealthy bf and is embarrassed when he didn't pay. That’s her losing face, but also her problem, not his. - He invited the others only per her request. His one mistake is not clarifying that they are paying themselves with this invitation. He is acting as organizer, not host. - The friends presented themselves as gold diggers by ordering the most expensive items. That's a reflection of the gf, too. A bad look. Overall, he dodged a bullet. She can find herself another guy to leech off.

MaryHadaLittleLamb
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if I KNEW the host was paying, I wouldn't order the most expensive item on the menu, out of respect for them. That's rude.

Carney
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Run, do not walk, away from this woman. The who pays question is minor considering the rest of the story. It would have been nice if everyone was clear on payment prior to the dinner, but that ship sailed. The real problem, the one that highlights your GF's personality, is her reaction. Her choice not to speak to you, not to voice her concern and then to be entrenched in her entitlement speaks volumes. The name calling at the end is just more evidence that she needs to do some serious growing up. Should you have paid for everyone? That really is not the point, but at least learn that, in the future, you clarify these things before the event. Meanwhile, do an honest self-inventory about what you really want in a partner. I don't think it is what this woman is capable of giving.

A S Mora
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Buddy, is this really who you want to be the mother of your future kids??

Dave
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I lived with an otherwise fine woman who played the "guess why I'm mad" game. I vowed never ever to play that game again and have never regretted it. It's pure passive-aggressive bs.

Lee Banks
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If invited to something I cannot afford, I politely decline, and state why. Sometimes people offer to cover me, sometimes they don't. Either way is fine. What I would Never do is expect someone to pay, or give my partner the silent treatment. That is cruel and unproductive. You deserve better.

Spudgun
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Get a grip of yourself. Why should you pay for them. Better off without her. You're being used as a meal ticket.

Karina
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I accidentally woted "she is right". I hate these polls

T'Mar of Vulcan
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm South African but if I ask people to a restaurant for my b-day, I don't say, "I'm inviting you," I say, "Will you come with me?" and make sure to clarify that they must pay for themselves. And if I go anywhere - even if someone has specifically invited me - I make sure to order something I can pay for myself just in case - because people aren't always great at communicating.

Julia Cargile
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a reason you broke up with her and I don't think it has to do with money. Send your ex these respones and see what she does.

Jumping Jellyfishes
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if for some reason you think he is in the wrong, the malicious name-calling shows she has a hidden nasty streak. Big red flag there. Time to say goodbye

RP
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The stuff she said afterwards is rank but the expectation that he would pay as he did the inviting is a grey area. I would always expect to pay as a guest and come prepared, but if I invite a small group of close friends out to a restaurant I choose for a special occasion, I would definitely expect to pay for my guests, or at the every least offer to.

Tara Bolden
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She expected him to pay for everything and told her friends, so they figured they would order the most expensive things on the menu - on his dime. There is NO excuse for this, unless he specifically said he would pay, then backed out on it. DUMP HER

DC and S
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Today I learned... Seems there are a lot of places where the invitee is expected to be host/pay unless stated otherwise. That's unheard of where I live. It's the opposite; everyone always pays for themselves (or in couples). You might split the guest of honour's cost... But even they'll argue with you not to. So if OP is somewhere like here, it would be absolutely expected that all guests pay for themselves unless it was made explicitly clear that it was his "treat". And even then the guests would still try their best to pay for themselves, or offer to cover something else in return.

Fairytails From Other Worlds
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was once invited to a birthday dinner by his (birthday-boy) wife. The custom here is that the person whose birthday it is, doesn’t pay but the others share their bill, and each pays their own. Now, I was pregnant at the time and there to celebrate him, not for the dinner really. I couldn’t eat much more than a bit of lettuce if that. I drank water. So, to my surprise, when the bill came, the wife said that “hey, let’s share the bill! He and I won’t take part of course.” The others were bit hesitant but agreed, after all they were pretty drunk at that point. I protested and said I’ll pay my own plus my share of the birthday-boy’s bill. They would not have it and I didn’t want to argue so I ended up paying 240€-ish for a piece of lettuce. And with my budget it was way too much. A month’s worth of groceries (yea I know, stuff was cheaper back then). Never again. Still angry after all these years.

S. H.
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just celebrated my bday. My BF paid for the entire dinner. There were 8 people. He took care of it because he likes take care of me. This extends to the people that I care about. That being said, he does that out of the kindness of his heart. He is not obligated to do so. If you go out to eat, expect to pay your own bill. Order what you like but also what you can afford to pay for. The amount of people who start ordering high priced things when someone else is paying is just mind boggling to me. If I am paying, I LITERALLY stop them in their tracks and let them know how much they can spend. I've had to do it twice. Both of those people were takers/narcissists. I don't associate with them any longer. This could have been an innocent miscommunication. She could feel really bad because her friends are broke AF and asked her boyfriend to cover the check as a gift to her. They then could have implemented proper communication protocols to prevent this from happening again. Easy peasy.

ANTIVICTORIA
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Etiquette has dictated that the inviter pays for the invitees. Common practices today seem to operate outside of formal etiquette. Technically, you did invite them, but at your GF behest. Clearly she led her friends to expect you to pay, knew the bill would come, and didnt even have the grace to give you a heads up. You dodged a bullet. She sounds awful and manipulative.

Upstaged75
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The people who said YTA are delusional morons! Or they're just as entitled as the ex-GF and her friends.

Steve Hall
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like the girlfriend expects to be taken care of and receive a free ride. Get away now before it becomes too expensive.

WonderWoman
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe OP would have picked up the tab had the others not been gluttonous, greedy people who ordered with abandon.

DadManBlues
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know the local customs, but where I come from, if the organiser hasn't told in advance that everyone pays for their own consumption, it means that everyone is his/her guest.

S. H.
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if that is true, how she handled the miscommunication is the problem. This could have been a simple miscommunication. Let's say the friends couldn't afford the meal. She could have asked him to cover their expenses because they didn't expect to pay for it. She could have asked him to do her that favor as a birthday gift to her and thanked him for it. Done and done. They could have figured out a way to communicate about it in the future And kept on with their relationship. Instead, her mask fell all the way the fck off.

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Craig Reynolds
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, but those who say YTA are overlooking the fact that he initially invited only his girlfriend. It was her suggestion to invite her friends, which he obliged. Therefore, it should be her responsibility to cover the expenses for her friends or reimburse them. His decision to end the relationship is justified if he views her behavior as immature, entitled, and emotionally abusive.

Ginger Winters
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If OP had actually been the one to invite the friends then yeah he should have covered or explained but she decided to invite them which means covering them is on her

Sinners1978
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP mentioned in a response he invited the friends because the ex-GF asked, otherwise it was just going to be the 2 of them. So really ex-GF should have paid for the friends if she is inviting them. OP is NTA but the ex is and a gold digger.

dayngerkat
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really hope the OP had the balls to stay away from this gold digger

Ivy at Eve
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

HIS birthday, HER friends? That started wrong already. I agree with those he could have said something about the check being split in advance, on the other hand, they tagged along to... celebrate his birthday? To eat on his dime? GF surely did care more about losing face to her friends than her BF. Time to re-evaluate the relationship.

WeeBitOfSumfin
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well if he invited them for her birthday "party" I would expect him to pay. It was his idea all along. But if I was the host, I'd set some budget limits or arranged some sort of a limited menu with the restaurant for the occasion.

Mike m
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How about ' Honey, my friends were under the impression we were paying. Will you please pay half of their bill and I'll pay half?"

Patti Lisenbee
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, But you should have made clear from the beginning that you're only paying for self and GF, the others will pay for themselves. Otherwise, this was a good chance to see what the GF was really like and she is NOT worth staying with. She will continue to use and abuse you this way if you let her. Let her GO.

Jeff Prupis
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, however, simply saying to the GF's friends when the bill came "Why don't we just split it, I'll pay for GF and me" would have made THEM look like the cheap AHs if they refused.

sharyn turnicky
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Did gf mention you were expected to pay for entire "Banquet "? Did you let all involved know they were paying for own food? The fact that they decided to order by "cost" is telling. Girlfriend 's response says she assumed you were paying and told friends to disregard the cost and go for it. This is awarning of what your future will be.

Eve ill Anderson
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

okay i never thought i'd actually side with the girl here but both parties are wrong, saying 'the man' has to pay is as sexist as objectification gets - however the host who 'made reservations' at the place he apparently chose would yes as the person who organized it be expected to pick up the bill: if not explicitly stated that the party is going dutch, or that you would B.Y.O.B. (in this case buy your own booze but you get me) - like if someone has a party at Chuck-E-Cheeze, Olive Garden, hell at a Denny's being invited to a party assumes that you're a guest - and while it would be a good idea to check with the host as to exactly how 'open' the bar is, anything over 5 people you assume whoever planned the party has budgeted for X heads, probably already made a selection between 2-3 meal options, and is going to tip 20% blah blah blah - like when have you ever had to pay at a wedding? ***if she ASKED him to make reservations for her and friends it's on her

Jacob B.
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dodged a bullet. My wife will often say "let me pay for it" and I always say not to worry about it, my treat. We've been together 25+ years. A few times she got away with it when I hit the restroom. But paying for everyone in your group at a restaurant without discussing it first? WTF?! Whenever we go out with friends the expectation is everyone pays for themselves. Even if its for things like birthdays or something and they are treating you, I still throw a fuss as they do as well when its for them. The entitlement on this person, wow.

Juanita Sullivan
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are NTA! This c**p of the silence treatment is the oldest trick in the book. DO NO MARRY HER! She will continue to do this. The only thing I would say about this is that, maybe splitting the bill should have been mentioned when her friends were invited to join. But her behavior says it all. Some women believe that if they give the silent treatment long enough and make the guy suffer long enough, he will do whatever she wants when she finally speaks up. Seems like you had to get revved up to finally get her to talk which is exactly what she wanted. DO NOT TAKE HER BACK. She wasn't showing any signs of being a partner that wants to deal with things right away. Just wants to get her way. You just saved yourself a life time of heck with this gal.

D. Pitbull
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

... and this is why... unless it's stated outright - I ask. Fine, get mad at me for being so 'blunt' or... 'not coy' or... whatever the garbage term is - If there is any doubt - ask. With some people.... you ask one more time closer to the date because they're the type to conveniently 'forget'. Regarding this situation - the OP's gf's reaction outed herself as someone to NOT be in a relationship with.

Jenny Mason
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm old (56) and if I invited some people out to a restaurant, I would expect to pay for everyone's food. If you don't want to pay for their meals you have to make that very clear upfront, and then people can decide if they can afford to tag along or not.

C.O. Shea
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ahhhh, young love. Principles... wait, sex... but, namecalling and extortion... principles... uh, sex?

Kurtis Karr
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You invite, you pay. Unless other arrangements have been made beforehand.

Paul C
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That would so depend on how the invite was phrased "shall we go out for x's birthday" is clearly all pay your own, "I'm inviting you to join me to celebrate x's birthday" is clearly I'm paying. But this issue isn't about the communication over one meal. It is about how the conflict was discussed like adults, or totally not as in this case.

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Lisa Aquino
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Acutally if you invite people to birthday gathering (or party) the guests don;t pay. Esp if you don't tell the guests ahead of time. Sorry he is in the wrong.

Youu betch
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You said you organize everything so it means you know the consequences that you pay their bill since you invited all of her friends. What do you want to expect them? Pay their own bill? For f sake they don't want extravagant you are the one choosing that resto

FluffyDreg
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you read the story... op didn't invite anyone aside from his EX. And most people do pay their own bill.

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