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Wife Asks Her Husband To Turn Down “Dream Job” For The Sake Of Her Career, Or She’ll Divorce Him
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Wife Asks Her Husband To Turn Down “Dream Job” For The Sake Of Her Career, Or She’ll Divorce Him

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It’s quite a challenge to maintain a happy relationship with someone or even create a family and to have a full-on career. Having it all is not always easy, but for most of us, the help from our friends and family help us to keep moving on. But what to do if one day your significant other decides that their career is more important than your relationship?

This situation occurred to one Reddit user who asked whether she did the right thing by asking her husband not to go for this job opportunity because it would put her whole career at risk. The woman was very stingy with details about what she does and where but it only makes it sound more serious about how important her work is.

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Dream jobs are important, but this woman wants to know if they are more important than family

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The main concern in this situation was focused on her husband who decided to go work for a company that is her workplace competitor. Since the user works with sensitive information, she knows that if her workplace does a background check on her and finds out that her husband works at that certain company, it would be the end of her career. Of course, she explained the situation to her husband and asked him not even apply, but he did exactly the opposite of what was asked and of course, was offered the position.

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Woman who has a successful carrier wants to know if she’s being right for not letting her husband to take his “Dream Job” because it may sabotage her career

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Even before the situation escalated to him almost accepting the job, the wife already warned the husband that in case he agrees with taking the job, they will have to have a divorce, as she cannot risk losing her whole career when he can simply work for some other company. The husband didn’t understand this at all and called her selfish and carrying only about the money. He got into her head so bad that she asked people on Reddit to help her understand whether she really did a horrible thing by raising an ultimatum to her husband: either he accepts this job and loses her or shuts down the proposal and stays in the marriage.

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The story got 35.3k points and 5.9k comments saying that she is being right for standing up for herself and something she was working on her whole life. One of the users brought up an interesting point about how the company that was about to hire her husband actually wants him just because of her being in a valuable position at her workplace.

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No doubt that there are very different ways on how people manage to combine their family life with work in this sense. Some couples are happy to work together in the same field, some manage to be together not only as a family but as work partners too. I guess we can only be glad for those who manage to stay together through it all. But what is the right thing to do when family interests separate from your work goals?
If you have any thoughts on how to work these kinds of situations in a less painful way, share your ideas in the comments!

Reddit users sharing their thoughts on the matter and it ‘s not something the husband would want to hear

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ZombieGirl
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was ready to take husband's side when I read the headline...but the wife actually has very good reason for her "demands". It's amazing that her company will help her with her legal fees. The husband calls her heartless and selfish, but it is actually him that is......in my opinion at least

Hooked
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Upvote ! One thing these headlines have taught me is to read the article. Never thought myself to be a quick judger but oh boy I am. The lady was right to be upset, and if the guy's reaction as portrayed accurately, she made the only correct choice

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Commander Rex
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, you set boundaries, he violated them, need I say further?

Parmeisan
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not sure what dukethedog said as he's already deleted it, but good on both of you for admitting your comments were rash/hostile and disagreeing politely. :)

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qwerty
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

True, it makes her come off as shallow and selfish. It's a lot more complex than that.

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Manuela Martins
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He knew exactly that going behind his wife's back was not correct and did it anyway. Whether you have to get divorced because of something like that depends on the people involved, but a breach of trust like that would be hard to repair anyway. It is not wrong to invest in oneself in a marriage, but him being willing to f*** up his marriage over a job shows that the woman is better off without him anyway.

Mimi M
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And he snuck behind her back, even when she told him exactly how it would torpedo her entire career. Yuck.

Catherine Kane
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

not only her career but their collective income. his income from a job he didn't actually have would not be enough

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Truth Monster
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get he's probably emasculated by her having the breadwinning role, but sabotaging her is in no way acting out of love. He needs to work with her, not against her.

Otter
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you're right, this is an idiotic, passive-aggressive, shitty way to deal with his feelings.

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Stille20
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He has prioritized his job over his wife and their financial stability. If it is more important for him take the "dream job" then splitting up is the only logical solution.

Shelli Aderman
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA at all! Women have been secondary to men in their careers for SO long, it’s really heartless of him to do that to her! And also? Am I the only one wondering what she does? 🤫

Amber Womack
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's complaining that she is prioritizing her career over their relationship, what does he think he is doing, and he doesn't even have the job. If this is how he treats her she is better off without him. If it is not this situation it will be something worse in the future qnd by that point they could be 8n deeper, with children involved. Get out NOW!

denzoren
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like this is a conversation they needed to have earlier. Like, for him to get the offer, he applied. In a situation like this there should have been a "no no" list of places to apply, given her job. I feel like this is a combination of many things at once. I'm not disagreeing with her in anyway, I know what it's like to work in a very specialized field, but I feel like this just took a really bad turn, you know. She isn't wrong, he didn't want to meet her halfway...it's a lot of factors at play.

Leodavinci
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Regardless... he's a jerk. IMO, he's intentionally trying to get her to stop working. Either by forcing her to quit or getting her fired. Considering her other conditions, this would make her utterly dependent on him.

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Nhaundar
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It comes over as if he chooses his career over hers because she is a women/ wife and hers is not as important as his. Divorce seems the best option....

Mewton’s Third Paw
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He couldn’t possibly love her. That’s what’s sad. It isn’t that he misses out on the job or that she left. It’s that there’s no way he could love her if he would do this to her. He put her in the worst position she’ll probably ever be in for her entire life. Her own husband did that. Relationships are so hard sometimes.

lenka
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would never apply for or accept a role for any position that would put my partners established job and career at risk. He knew what was at stake. He knew the awful position it would put his wife in and he did it anyway. He has made it very clear that his ego, or power trip or whatever the hell this behaviour is, is more important to him than her. NTA. Ditch the husband keep the job.

Lotus Flower
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There’s no winners though the offer of her company paying all divorce legal fees does seem specious at best. Regardless, NTA because imo, once married, these decisions become a collective decision where all factors, not just one person’s happiness is taken into consideration. That’s what being partners means. Feels like there’s more issues to the marriage since he was willing to go behind her back on such a big decision.

VeninTheNonBinaryRogue
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At first I thought the wife was at fault, but after reading the story I do think that the husband should have done something different

Vernice Aure
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her husband knew exactly what he was doing. He deliberately applied to the job, maybe he was head-hunted. This is so passive aggressive and beyond selfish. It is obvious that he no longer cares about her or their marriage except for the advantage it gives him in his new job.

SuePrew
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he takes the job, even if he didn't move out, the marriage is over. It's probably over anyway, as he insisted on pushing her this far.

OCDRobot
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So he says "his career needs to take priority" whilst simultaneously saying that she only cares about money and is heartless. Big Yikes. Glad her company is offering to help her. They seem to have her back more than him. How sad.

Linda McGuigan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In MHO he's a total c@nt for doing this to you you have supported him during this pandemic while he was unemployed or taking a career brake and then he goes and dose this if that doesn't ring alarm bells I don't know what will he did this not you he knew where you were employed and the trouble it would cause I hope he enjoys staying in a hotel all the more power to you don't live your life for others live it for yourself I wish luck with your new life

Pavol Dvorský
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hmmm, i would really like to know what kind of jobs these two have.

Jonas Westerlund
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone betraying me like that I would kick out so fast, pain wouldn't even register on their ass until they were passing through the next state. What a douche bag.

Tamara Kroonen
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. She already had this job. He quit before corona. He got an offer from the competition of her company. He knows it will cause her to loose her job. He accuses her of being selfish and that she loves money more than him. But... it is exactly the other way around. He can get tons of jobs. If he deliberately accepts the offer, knowing it will cost her job, than HE is the selfisch narcissistic prick. She is right to set her boundaries. If he accepts the offer, and doing it behind her back, than he has shown her what kind of man he is. And she is damn right to leave him.

Kurt shrooms
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think she's a narc agent and he's just fulfilled his dream of getting onto the coke peddling ladder

Norart
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How about you get off social media and communicate face to face with the actual human that you took marriage vows with? Or is this a popular answer wins kind of thing?

Monika Nagyova
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Have you read the article? They have talked about it on numerous occasions. All she is doing is asking for advice how to proceed but in truth she doesn't need to because this marriage is over. He chose a job over the marriage.

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beckster308
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The conflict of interest/type of job is actually irrelevant; doing ANYTHING this major behind a spouse's back is a dealbreaker.

Gogamash
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No. I respect her point of view that this is a very important issue for her. But it would be the same if it was the other way around. IMO, if marriage is considered a "mutual promise for the rest of life" .... in fact it isn't in most cases. If those two people are divorcing eventually in the future, what's left then is their individual career when ways part. I wouldn't recommend a woman to withdraw from her life plans in consideration of her marriage, but some women do (and also men do this sometimes). Finally it's his personal decision. He could also decide to withdraw from taking this opportunity since (I guess) she is earning way more than $65k. But the decision is up to him as well as the decision is up to her to end the marriage because of this issue.

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Pamda Panda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd be willing to bet this wasn't the only problem with their marriage, either. My ex got a job, we moved across the country. He quit six months later and then accepted a job offer across the country again. He expected me to just quit my job and move with him. Again. Back to my first point, though-- this is A reason he's an ex, not THE reason. The husband sounds like an entitled a**e who isn't willing to compromise and blames her for anything he has to sacrifice in order to make the relationship work.

Brandy Grote
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If her company is willing to fund her divorce over this, he needs to take a step back! He is the one being selfish, if he would jeopardize everything they have for his weird masculine sensitivities. And she may be better without him if he is that toxic. Plus he went behind her back, already proving he isn't beyond sabotaging her further!

LittleMissLotus
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, this is a sucky situation, but if it ends her relationship with him, at least it has an upside- if he's willing to violate the boundaries she set and go behind her back like this, I think she's better off without him. On another note, I really want to know what kind of job she has .

Curry on...
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I see her very valid point. I just think it's a shame that careers could break up a marriage, though I suspect the husband has some hidden agenda. Maybe he wanted to be the one in control of the finances; maybe he secretly wanted a divorce, but used the situation to get it, instead of just coming right out and saying so. Lots of layers here. Ironically, as companies go, they could both end up unemployed.

Thenatural
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would say she is right....no doubt he needs to be working for his own sense of self worth but if she lost her job over his?...the marriage would crumble anyway....sad ,very sad but she has to move on....right choice.

Leo Domitrix
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Incompatible dreams/goals will wreck any marriage. it wasn't okay of him to force a fait accompli, and it wasn't fair of her to make this all-or-nothing. I think a lot of resentment under the surface. ...

Otter
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, I don't see that she has any choice but to make this all-or-nothing, and say that they can't stay married if she takes the job. What else can she do, resign and resent him for forcing her out of her dream job for the rest of her life? The marriage is over that way as well! No, either he's a complete idiot who thinks that married women's jobs don't matter somehow, or he's decided that getting a job is more important than a marriage. The latter is about a billion times more likely, and either way means the marriage is already beyond salvation.

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Call Me Mars
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm on the fence on this one. On one side, this is the husband's dream job. From what I read, it pays well, and he seems pretty stoked about it. While the wife did seem selfish at first, I understand her point of view as well as his. She set boundaries and explained why, and he stepped over them behind her back.

Leodavinci
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where was it written this was the husband's "dream job". Pays well? It isn't enough to support them both. She would have to start from the beginning in a new field... if she could. Sounds like she might be in a position where her employer could get her blackballed her from any job.

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Kurt shrooms
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This to me is just another reason not to bind ties in such an outdated and pointless tradition, which really if we're being honest most the time is the woman's 'dream day' like half of marriages end in divorce anyway so it's no surprise it's happening. Anyway the story here is that the guy should have listened to his partner before he went ahead and did this behind her back, she's working a specific job that would be impacted upon by his actions of choosing the particular job he's going for, wouldn't do that to my partner and I hope she wouldn't do it to me either, if he wanted it that and knew it would ruin his relationship then he should have broke it off with her first if he thought it was more important than their relationship

luvdemhogs
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like this is a marriage of convenience and not love. I know that sounds harsh but I would always choose my wife even if she makes some dumb mistakes. Her job is her priority and not her husband.

Vivian Ashe
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a little dubious about this whole story. It's a bit of a red flag to me that she claims her job is so highly secret and sensitive, yet she's posting about it on an internet site. Even if she's doing so anonymously, it feels a bit unprofessional. Also, I work in an industry where we have tight information security, and I've never heard of someone being fired because of who their spouse is. There might be extra security measures in place for that person, though. Like not allowing her to take work home, or requiring certain monitoring software on her work computer. She mentions the $65K salary as if she doesn't think that's very much, so I wonder if part of it is simply that she would be embarrassed for word to get around in her circle that her husband has a lower-level job making less money than her. The story just feels like maybe some details were left out.

deanna woods
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Given that he has a wide variety of areas in which he can work and she only has this one, he was in the wrong to go behind her back and apply for this job. She told him that if he went for this job, it could get her fired and he didn't care, so this is the best recourse. It's not her fault that he chose to quit his job before the pandemic.

Tobin Kern
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless she finds him an alternative job, he has every right to accept this job. Deactivate your social medias... LinkedIn and all that... and let him advance. Unless you open your mouth, nobody will know. I know this because my parents worked for rival companies in Denver for almost 30 years. Nobody had a clue because they were professionals. Sounds like this woman either cant keep her mouth shut or the husband cant. Thats the real issue.

Bella, Your Kitty-Loving Queen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I thought I’d take the husband’s side when I read the headline, but the wife actually has very good reasons for not wanting him to have this job.

John Montgomery
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can't they both just sign non disclosure agreements at their respective companies?

Nikki Bastian
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's of the opinion that she's choosing her career over their marriage, but by forcing this and pursuing the job offer, he's making the choice of career over marriage. I know it stings when one partner out earns the other, but there also has to be a level of pragmatism in the relationship that can only happen when both parties have their feet on the ground and are being real. NTA.

Dana Dara
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They both sounds like idiots who shouldn’t have gotten married. He wants her to be a “supportive wife” and forego her dreams to let him shine, and she even said “even if I trusted him”... meaning she doesn’t.

Bobby
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm withholding judgement. The information about the fields is too generic. Is his dream job a company that is difficult to get in to? Is her job really that exclusive, or is she actually high enough that the company gives a crap about what she knows? Without knowing more I could really side with either person

Lilith the Demon Panda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the field doesn't matter... she got the job first, it's reasonable to keep it if she's the one making better money, there is no reason she should sacrifice her career just because she's a woman... if it was the other way around he would demand the same

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lara
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In this case, I support her decision. This is not about trust, this has become a "power" issue. He knows that this is important and he knows that she has been involved/working for this company for years. I imagine he has always felt second. In this case she is doing the only thing possible because he has now made it "personal" aka "if you loved me you would not object." Her response is "you know that this is my career and it has always been like this, you can find another job path/career path, you can go back to school, you have a possible future, this is the future for me and always has been." In addition if his "company" is in direct competition with hers, I bet that is why they hired him.

Carol Emory
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At first I was like, "How can she ask him to give up his dream job?" The explanation is understandable. He's willing to put your household finances in jeopardy for his dream job? That's an AH. Now there is one other solution I'm not sure if it would fix things...my cousin and her husband have different households. They do it because it's less pressure on the two of them than it would be if they were under the same roof. Would your company be OK with that kind of arrangement?

Not Proud British
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After 22 years of marriage I can honestly say that everything is a compromise and that's how it should be. He started as the breadwinner but now my career is better than his and I'm the higher earner. We both have trust and respect for each other. When I was going through a rough time at work, he offered to work harder if I needed to quit. And when he was furloughed, I put in the hours and supported him. Sounds like her husband just wants to reverse the roles and doesn't appreciate being told what he can and can't do. But there's no compromise being offered here on his part. Sadly without communication, compromise, trust and respect, this couple lack the building blocks for a successful marriage. Sad though that is.

P-Rex Mama
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You took the words out of my mouth. My husband started out as the breadwinner. Then he went to college and I stepped up to be the breadwinner. Now he has an amazing job that is making more money than I could ever hope to make. His job takes him out of town a lot so I stepped back to take care of our two young children more. It was never a question for me to step back for the sake of our family. We have always had the respect to talk to each other and figure out what would be best for our family. Part of that respect is putting our family as a whole first and not ourselves as individuals. I couldn't imagine going behind my husband's back after he expressed why a job wouldn't work out and I don't think he could go behind my back either.

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Justin Tower
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Something seems off. She seem like a cutthroat corporate stooge. The analogy painting her in a good light is a big tip off. She probably works at a job with no morals.

SilverSkyCloud
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

its his dream job, why should he give it up just because "she had it first"?, for all we know his dream job could've been difficult to get hold of and for her to say he could just work a different type of job is suggesting that she expects him to be unhappy in a workplace just to satisfy her? especially if this is something that hes always wanted to do,

OHIOWAndering_Around
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if he hadn't taken the job and stopped before the interview the marriage was over. Think of the resentment he'd have had towards her for having to give up his "dream job" in the first place. This isn't something he'd have been able to forget about. It was always going to be there brewing under the surface. This was how their life worked out. She loves him but that doesn't mean their marriage was going to last forever or even meant to be. This was a lose-lose going into it. She's definitely NTA. I'm not saying he isn't an AH, but if you think about it without emotion they were divorcing over this job eventually.

Stephen Foley
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who would want to work for a dictatorial adversarial orgastun such as that the wife is employed by? Not me for sure!!! Also the husband has his rights and life too. So much for "Richer or poorer, better or worse"! She is selfsh IMO and I side with the husband!

B-b-bird
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He knew it will risk her career and did it anyway, I think at that point he was who decided to end their stability (at best), and seeing from further escalation... to end marriage

Random Anon
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She did nothing wrong IMO. She let him decide. He decided wrong and acted really dishonorably too. NTA, period. I would've done exactly the same.

Jane Alexander
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course all the commenters take her side as it is the only side presented. We're not getting the whole story here.

Rob Dabank
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Has she approached her employer and asked them if there is anything that could make the situation work - I didn't get a sense of that in the narrative? I know she said that she spoke to them about him having applied for the role, but just missed that nuance of detail. If she has approached them in that context and they said no, this conversation should be a no brainer. But asking him to give up his pursuit of what she described as "his dream job" if this is based on what "could" happen seems potentially a little premature.

Joyce Bang
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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westwing
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The irony here is If either one of them dropped dead tomorrow their employers that they’re willing to ruin their marriage for would replace them within a week ....

Tabitha K
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Divorce and move on, obviously. Your relationship is not priority #1 to either of you. Live your best lives, separately.

Stannous Flouride
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's obvious that she's actually M and her husband was offered a job by SMERSH (a portmanteau of the Russian Smyert Shpionam - Смерть Шпионам - which means "Death to Spies")

v
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Considering the stipulations leading to the divorce and since she makes more money if the judge will grant him alimony.

v
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like this "conversation" is much like the police body cam that was turned on when it was safe to do so and nobody outside of the individuals involved will ever know the truth.

Tacos Are Tasty
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The husband is the twat in this scenario, without question and it seems to me that she will in fact be better off without him. I hope she goes on to find a good, supportive mate who will respect her, because this man quite obviously doesn't deserve her.

Gogamash
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, I am sorry but I think, the husband should care for his career first. It's his life and he will be stuck with it, in particular if the marriage of those two persons crumbles for other reasons than this in the future.

Wonder Woman 848
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In my opinion; the wife is right. She has a good paying job that feeds and clothes and shelters them both. He wanted a job that would not support them and would probably get her fired. The OBVIOUS choice is to find a new job for hubby and/or divorce him.

Sam Kunz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can you imagine what the response would be if it was the husband telling the wife not to take a job? He'd be called sexist and abusive. He should take it and move out. This woman is looking for a reason to divorce. Move on.

Laura Pantazis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with the redditor that wondered if the company would keep him if his wife left him. Given the circumstances, it does sound like the competitor may have hired him for his wife’s trade secrets.

Niall Allen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seems very messed up that she instantly wants a divorce if he takes the job. That shows that he means nothing to her at all, so he might as well take the job and move on and find someone that actually cares for him as much as themselves.

Joe Dad
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I believe that neither of them were at fault. The husband had to think about his own career and his future. He can't just sit by while his wife does all the work. He needs a job, too, and continue to gain work experience and develop skills. He did not do anything wrong by taking this job. Sure, it cost their relationship, but I can't blame him for choosing his career over her. She was selfish to make these demands on him and threat him with a divorce. No one has the authority to take someone else's free will. You. Are. Not. Supposed. To. Control. Your. Spouse. Respect your spouse's needs and wishes. Don't force your spouse to wear this, eat that, do this, listen to that, and whatnot. If you don't like it, then don't marry him/her. That is my two cents.

Otter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, he needs a job, both for his personal happiness and for the sake of his future career... but if he wants a job that would actively hurt his wife's interests then he's shown he's totally okay with hurting his wife to advance his own interests. That's never okay. He is choosing his career over his marriage, and there's no way the relationship can be saved.

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SumoNinja
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They both sound like not so great people. Based on the wife's version, the husband is worse, but even in the best light they both put career ahead of their spouse. Maybe I'm idealistic, but the idea of career ambition superseding relationship ambition sound ugly.

Easily Excitable Panda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Even if I trusted him..." That sounds like a warning bell for the whole marriage, regardless of their jobs!

Jace
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“...would you sacrifice your family for your career?” Um, no. Certainly not a family I was building by choice. It’s different if we’re talking about moving away from family we grew up with.

AndersM
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think she's not all wrong. Poor people. What a dilemma! Hope they'll figure it out.

Cynthia Bonville
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Soooo I gave up a career for family, your husband can do that same thing. Besides, the reason they hired him is because of you - I am sure they know exactly who you are.

Brett Layton
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's better off without her, she can marry her company she loves it far more than him. Count himself lucky she can have her money and job and think warm thoughts to herself once teh company turns her out to save money becuase I assure you they will eventually.

El muerto
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

she is trying to dictate what jobbs he can get, and she never even consider the husbands feelings or his live into something...you could argue than he should leave her...she is not the only one in the partnership, but she automatically decided that her career was more important. he went for a jobb that could endanger her career and against her wishes...is really obvious than both are putting their careers above of the relationship. is a no brainer...divorce win-win

Abigail Green
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know you'll all down vote this but the husband is right. It's just a job, that should NEVER come before your marriage. I'd rather live on the street and still be married.

Michael Ward
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the hell is wrong with all you people thinking it's normal to pick a job over your spouse? A job is just a job, it's not your life, it's just somewhere you go to do duties to get paid, nothing more. And as soon as they have any difficulty at all they'll drop you without a second thought, they have no loyalty to you. If any of you are prioritizing your job over your family, you'll end up without either, and you'll deserve it.

The Dave
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She handled this terribly, but he didn’t do perfectly either. Threatening divorce because of this situation is ridiculous. People just don’t take marriage seriously anymore. Marriage takes precedence over career. PERIOD.

Cathelijne Van
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a proposal; instead of hearing just one side of the story, both sides may write an essay of 500-1000 words and THEN we decide who is the asshole.

స్టీఫెన్ ఆండ్రూ
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3 years ago

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Her requests are reasonable; her processes are not. She could have handled it much better.

Commander Rex
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That was the only real way, the way she put it, you wouldn’t want celebrity secretaries and then news operators in the same house, or even married.

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SouthernGrace
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Honestly, both are in the wrong. If he really wants to take that job then he should because it's HIS dream. I don't like that he applied behind her back, but she is being unreasonable and is acting out of fear for her job security. If she was so scared then she should have gone to her boss and explained what's going on and what results could come if he takes the job. Ending a marriage over something as temporary as a job is very selfish for the both of them. They should've worked through it together and told their employees about their dilemma. Both are in the wrong and that's how I see it.

Johnny
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3 years ago

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This sounds likes an exageration - the husband of a senior developer at my company works for one of our top competitors (where he too is a senior developer), and there's no problem with it, it's openly known at the company. If anything, they are more careful than most employees about protecting IP since their employers are well known. I doubt that in my state (California) it would even be legal for a company to discriminate against someone because of where their spouse works. Besides, the people that are most likely to steal IP aren't going to broadcast their relationship with a competitor so I'm not sure that the relationship even puts the company at exceptional risk.

Luca Taddy
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3 years ago

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combination of many things at once. I'm not disagreeing with her in anyway, I know what it's like to work in a very specialized field, but I feel like this just took a really bad turn, you know. She isn't wrong, he didn't want to meet her halfway...it's a lot of factors at play.https://streamingdedi.com/

Dee on bikes
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3 years ago

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Is anybody else suspicious of her career? The way it's described is like, "He got a job cleaning up baby seals from oil spills, I work for a legal firm that defends oil companies."... Perhaps the fact that their "dream jobs" are literally at odds with one another speaks to a deeper incompatibility.

Brett Connor
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3 years ago

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Never specialize. And to think " you can't be replaced" is ludicrous. The biggest specialization across the planet in the last 25 years is. Liberal Stupidity.

K Witmer
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What are you even talking about trumper? You people make no sense bc you're in a cult thats as specialized as it comes

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Someone
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3 years ago

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I say both of them get the same job! Both should get 65k job!

Viviane
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The job is only being offered to one of them. Also, some companies have rules against hiring couples. She makes a lot more money than 65k, so she's not willing to start over in another field. Plus there's no guarantee that he'll keep the job he wants (what if he gets fired or laid off?), whereas she's had her job for quite a while and can support both of them.

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ZombieGirl
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was ready to take husband's side when I read the headline...but the wife actually has very good reason for her "demands". It's amazing that her company will help her with her legal fees. The husband calls her heartless and selfish, but it is actually him that is......in my opinion at least

Hooked
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Upvote ! One thing these headlines have taught me is to read the article. Never thought myself to be a quick judger but oh boy I am. The lady was right to be upset, and if the guy's reaction as portrayed accurately, she made the only correct choice

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Commander Rex
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, you set boundaries, he violated them, need I say further?

Parmeisan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not sure what dukethedog said as he's already deleted it, but good on both of you for admitting your comments were rash/hostile and disagreeing politely. :)

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qwerty
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

True, it makes her come off as shallow and selfish. It's a lot more complex than that.

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Manuela Martins
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He knew exactly that going behind his wife's back was not correct and did it anyway. Whether you have to get divorced because of something like that depends on the people involved, but a breach of trust like that would be hard to repair anyway. It is not wrong to invest in oneself in a marriage, but him being willing to f*** up his marriage over a job shows that the woman is better off without him anyway.

Mimi M
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And he snuck behind her back, even when she told him exactly how it would torpedo her entire career. Yuck.

Catherine Kane
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

not only her career but their collective income. his income from a job he didn't actually have would not be enough

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Truth Monster
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get he's probably emasculated by her having the breadwinning role, but sabotaging her is in no way acting out of love. He needs to work with her, not against her.

Otter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you're right, this is an idiotic, passive-aggressive, shitty way to deal with his feelings.

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Stille20
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He has prioritized his job over his wife and their financial stability. If it is more important for him take the "dream job" then splitting up is the only logical solution.

Shelli Aderman
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA at all! Women have been secondary to men in their careers for SO long, it’s really heartless of him to do that to her! And also? Am I the only one wondering what she does? 🤫

Amber Womack
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's complaining that she is prioritizing her career over their relationship, what does he think he is doing, and he doesn't even have the job. If this is how he treats her she is better off without him. If it is not this situation it will be something worse in the future qnd by that point they could be 8n deeper, with children involved. Get out NOW!

denzoren
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like this is a conversation they needed to have earlier. Like, for him to get the offer, he applied. In a situation like this there should have been a "no no" list of places to apply, given her job. I feel like this is a combination of many things at once. I'm not disagreeing with her in anyway, I know what it's like to work in a very specialized field, but I feel like this just took a really bad turn, you know. She isn't wrong, he didn't want to meet her halfway...it's a lot of factors at play.

Leodavinci
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Regardless... he's a jerk. IMO, he's intentionally trying to get her to stop working. Either by forcing her to quit or getting her fired. Considering her other conditions, this would make her utterly dependent on him.

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Nhaundar
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It comes over as if he chooses his career over hers because she is a women/ wife and hers is not as important as his. Divorce seems the best option....

Mewton’s Third Paw
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He couldn’t possibly love her. That’s what’s sad. It isn’t that he misses out on the job or that she left. It’s that there’s no way he could love her if he would do this to her. He put her in the worst position she’ll probably ever be in for her entire life. Her own husband did that. Relationships are so hard sometimes.

lenka
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would never apply for or accept a role for any position that would put my partners established job and career at risk. He knew what was at stake. He knew the awful position it would put his wife in and he did it anyway. He has made it very clear that his ego, or power trip or whatever the hell this behaviour is, is more important to him than her. NTA. Ditch the husband keep the job.

Lotus Flower
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There’s no winners though the offer of her company paying all divorce legal fees does seem specious at best. Regardless, NTA because imo, once married, these decisions become a collective decision where all factors, not just one person’s happiness is taken into consideration. That’s what being partners means. Feels like there’s more issues to the marriage since he was willing to go behind her back on such a big decision.

VeninTheNonBinaryRogue
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At first I thought the wife was at fault, but after reading the story I do think that the husband should have done something different

Vernice Aure
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her husband knew exactly what he was doing. He deliberately applied to the job, maybe he was head-hunted. This is so passive aggressive and beyond selfish. It is obvious that he no longer cares about her or their marriage except for the advantage it gives him in his new job.

SuePrew
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he takes the job, even if he didn't move out, the marriage is over. It's probably over anyway, as he insisted on pushing her this far.

OCDRobot
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So he says "his career needs to take priority" whilst simultaneously saying that she only cares about money and is heartless. Big Yikes. Glad her company is offering to help her. They seem to have her back more than him. How sad.

Linda McGuigan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In MHO he's a total c@nt for doing this to you you have supported him during this pandemic while he was unemployed or taking a career brake and then he goes and dose this if that doesn't ring alarm bells I don't know what will he did this not you he knew where you were employed and the trouble it would cause I hope he enjoys staying in a hotel all the more power to you don't live your life for others live it for yourself I wish luck with your new life

Pavol Dvorský
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hmmm, i would really like to know what kind of jobs these two have.

Jonas Westerlund
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone betraying me like that I would kick out so fast, pain wouldn't even register on their ass until they were passing through the next state. What a douche bag.

Tamara Kroonen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. She already had this job. He quit before corona. He got an offer from the competition of her company. He knows it will cause her to loose her job. He accuses her of being selfish and that she loves money more than him. But... it is exactly the other way around. He can get tons of jobs. If he deliberately accepts the offer, knowing it will cost her job, than HE is the selfisch narcissistic prick. She is right to set her boundaries. If he accepts the offer, and doing it behind her back, than he has shown her what kind of man he is. And she is damn right to leave him.

Kurt shrooms
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think she's a narc agent and he's just fulfilled his dream of getting onto the coke peddling ladder

Norart
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How about you get off social media and communicate face to face with the actual human that you took marriage vows with? Or is this a popular answer wins kind of thing?

Monika Nagyova
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Have you read the article? They have talked about it on numerous occasions. All she is doing is asking for advice how to proceed but in truth she doesn't need to because this marriage is over. He chose a job over the marriage.

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beckster308
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The conflict of interest/type of job is actually irrelevant; doing ANYTHING this major behind a spouse's back is a dealbreaker.

Gogamash
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No. I respect her point of view that this is a very important issue for her. But it would be the same if it was the other way around. IMO, if marriage is considered a "mutual promise for the rest of life" .... in fact it isn't in most cases. If those two people are divorcing eventually in the future, what's left then is their individual career when ways part. I wouldn't recommend a woman to withdraw from her life plans in consideration of her marriage, but some women do (and also men do this sometimes). Finally it's his personal decision. He could also decide to withdraw from taking this opportunity since (I guess) she is earning way more than $65k. But the decision is up to him as well as the decision is up to her to end the marriage because of this issue.

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Pamda Panda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd be willing to bet this wasn't the only problem with their marriage, either. My ex got a job, we moved across the country. He quit six months later and then accepted a job offer across the country again. He expected me to just quit my job and move with him. Again. Back to my first point, though-- this is A reason he's an ex, not THE reason. The husband sounds like an entitled a**e who isn't willing to compromise and blames her for anything he has to sacrifice in order to make the relationship work.

Brandy Grote
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If her company is willing to fund her divorce over this, he needs to take a step back! He is the one being selfish, if he would jeopardize everything they have for his weird masculine sensitivities. And she may be better without him if he is that toxic. Plus he went behind her back, already proving he isn't beyond sabotaging her further!

LittleMissLotus
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, this is a sucky situation, but if it ends her relationship with him, at least it has an upside- if he's willing to violate the boundaries she set and go behind her back like this, I think she's better off without him. On another note, I really want to know what kind of job she has .

Curry on...
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I see her very valid point. I just think it's a shame that careers could break up a marriage, though I suspect the husband has some hidden agenda. Maybe he wanted to be the one in control of the finances; maybe he secretly wanted a divorce, but used the situation to get it, instead of just coming right out and saying so. Lots of layers here. Ironically, as companies go, they could both end up unemployed.

Thenatural
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would say she is right....no doubt he needs to be working for his own sense of self worth but if she lost her job over his?...the marriage would crumble anyway....sad ,very sad but she has to move on....right choice.

Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Incompatible dreams/goals will wreck any marriage. it wasn't okay of him to force a fait accompli, and it wasn't fair of her to make this all-or-nothing. I think a lot of resentment under the surface. ...

Otter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, I don't see that she has any choice but to make this all-or-nothing, and say that they can't stay married if she takes the job. What else can she do, resign and resent him for forcing her out of her dream job for the rest of her life? The marriage is over that way as well! No, either he's a complete idiot who thinks that married women's jobs don't matter somehow, or he's decided that getting a job is more important than a marriage. The latter is about a billion times more likely, and either way means the marriage is already beyond salvation.

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Call Me Mars
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm on the fence on this one. On one side, this is the husband's dream job. From what I read, it pays well, and he seems pretty stoked about it. While the wife did seem selfish at first, I understand her point of view as well as his. She set boundaries and explained why, and he stepped over them behind her back.

Leodavinci
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where was it written this was the husband's "dream job". Pays well? It isn't enough to support them both. She would have to start from the beginning in a new field... if she could. Sounds like she might be in a position where her employer could get her blackballed her from any job.

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Kurt shrooms
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This to me is just another reason not to bind ties in such an outdated and pointless tradition, which really if we're being honest most the time is the woman's 'dream day' like half of marriages end in divorce anyway so it's no surprise it's happening. Anyway the story here is that the guy should have listened to his partner before he went ahead and did this behind her back, she's working a specific job that would be impacted upon by his actions of choosing the particular job he's going for, wouldn't do that to my partner and I hope she wouldn't do it to me either, if he wanted it that and knew it would ruin his relationship then he should have broke it off with her first if he thought it was more important than their relationship

luvdemhogs
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like this is a marriage of convenience and not love. I know that sounds harsh but I would always choose my wife even if she makes some dumb mistakes. Her job is her priority and not her husband.

Vivian Ashe
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a little dubious about this whole story. It's a bit of a red flag to me that she claims her job is so highly secret and sensitive, yet she's posting about it on an internet site. Even if she's doing so anonymously, it feels a bit unprofessional. Also, I work in an industry where we have tight information security, and I've never heard of someone being fired because of who their spouse is. There might be extra security measures in place for that person, though. Like not allowing her to take work home, or requiring certain monitoring software on her work computer. She mentions the $65K salary as if she doesn't think that's very much, so I wonder if part of it is simply that she would be embarrassed for word to get around in her circle that her husband has a lower-level job making less money than her. The story just feels like maybe some details were left out.

deanna woods
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Given that he has a wide variety of areas in which he can work and she only has this one, he was in the wrong to go behind her back and apply for this job. She told him that if he went for this job, it could get her fired and he didn't care, so this is the best recourse. It's not her fault that he chose to quit his job before the pandemic.

Tobin Kern
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless she finds him an alternative job, he has every right to accept this job. Deactivate your social medias... LinkedIn and all that... and let him advance. Unless you open your mouth, nobody will know. I know this because my parents worked for rival companies in Denver for almost 30 years. Nobody had a clue because they were professionals. Sounds like this woman either cant keep her mouth shut or the husband cant. Thats the real issue.

Bella, Your Kitty-Loving Queen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I thought I’d take the husband’s side when I read the headline, but the wife actually has very good reasons for not wanting him to have this job.

John Montgomery
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can't they both just sign non disclosure agreements at their respective companies?

Nikki Bastian
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's of the opinion that she's choosing her career over their marriage, but by forcing this and pursuing the job offer, he's making the choice of career over marriage. I know it stings when one partner out earns the other, but there also has to be a level of pragmatism in the relationship that can only happen when both parties have their feet on the ground and are being real. NTA.

Dana Dara
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They both sounds like idiots who shouldn’t have gotten married. He wants her to be a “supportive wife” and forego her dreams to let him shine, and she even said “even if I trusted him”... meaning she doesn’t.

Bobby
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm withholding judgement. The information about the fields is too generic. Is his dream job a company that is difficult to get in to? Is her job really that exclusive, or is she actually high enough that the company gives a crap about what she knows? Without knowing more I could really side with either person

Lilith the Demon Panda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the field doesn't matter... she got the job first, it's reasonable to keep it if she's the one making better money, there is no reason she should sacrifice her career just because she's a woman... if it was the other way around he would demand the same

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lara
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In this case, I support her decision. This is not about trust, this has become a "power" issue. He knows that this is important and he knows that she has been involved/working for this company for years. I imagine he has always felt second. In this case she is doing the only thing possible because he has now made it "personal" aka "if you loved me you would not object." Her response is "you know that this is my career and it has always been like this, you can find another job path/career path, you can go back to school, you have a possible future, this is the future for me and always has been." In addition if his "company" is in direct competition with hers, I bet that is why they hired him.

Carol Emory
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At first I was like, "How can she ask him to give up his dream job?" The explanation is understandable. He's willing to put your household finances in jeopardy for his dream job? That's an AH. Now there is one other solution I'm not sure if it would fix things...my cousin and her husband have different households. They do it because it's less pressure on the two of them than it would be if they were under the same roof. Would your company be OK with that kind of arrangement?

Not Proud British
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After 22 years of marriage I can honestly say that everything is a compromise and that's how it should be. He started as the breadwinner but now my career is better than his and I'm the higher earner. We both have trust and respect for each other. When I was going through a rough time at work, he offered to work harder if I needed to quit. And when he was furloughed, I put in the hours and supported him. Sounds like her husband just wants to reverse the roles and doesn't appreciate being told what he can and can't do. But there's no compromise being offered here on his part. Sadly without communication, compromise, trust and respect, this couple lack the building blocks for a successful marriage. Sad though that is.

P-Rex Mama
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You took the words out of my mouth. My husband started out as the breadwinner. Then he went to college and I stepped up to be the breadwinner. Now he has an amazing job that is making more money than I could ever hope to make. His job takes him out of town a lot so I stepped back to take care of our two young children more. It was never a question for me to step back for the sake of our family. We have always had the respect to talk to each other and figure out what would be best for our family. Part of that respect is putting our family as a whole first and not ourselves as individuals. I couldn't imagine going behind my husband's back after he expressed why a job wouldn't work out and I don't think he could go behind my back either.

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Justin Tower
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Something seems off. She seem like a cutthroat corporate stooge. The analogy painting her in a good light is a big tip off. She probably works at a job with no morals.

SilverSkyCloud
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

its his dream job, why should he give it up just because "she had it first"?, for all we know his dream job could've been difficult to get hold of and for her to say he could just work a different type of job is suggesting that she expects him to be unhappy in a workplace just to satisfy her? especially if this is something that hes always wanted to do,

OHIOWAndering_Around
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if he hadn't taken the job and stopped before the interview the marriage was over. Think of the resentment he'd have had towards her for having to give up his "dream job" in the first place. This isn't something he'd have been able to forget about. It was always going to be there brewing under the surface. This was how their life worked out. She loves him but that doesn't mean their marriage was going to last forever or even meant to be. This was a lose-lose going into it. She's definitely NTA. I'm not saying he isn't an AH, but if you think about it without emotion they were divorcing over this job eventually.

Stephen Foley
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who would want to work for a dictatorial adversarial orgastun such as that the wife is employed by? Not me for sure!!! Also the husband has his rights and life too. So much for "Richer or poorer, better or worse"! She is selfsh IMO and I side with the husband!

B-b-bird
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He knew it will risk her career and did it anyway, I think at that point he was who decided to end their stability (at best), and seeing from further escalation... to end marriage

Random Anon
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She did nothing wrong IMO. She let him decide. He decided wrong and acted really dishonorably too. NTA, period. I would've done exactly the same.

Jane Alexander
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course all the commenters take her side as it is the only side presented. We're not getting the whole story here.

Rob Dabank
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Has she approached her employer and asked them if there is anything that could make the situation work - I didn't get a sense of that in the narrative? I know she said that she spoke to them about him having applied for the role, but just missed that nuance of detail. If she has approached them in that context and they said no, this conversation should be a no brainer. But asking him to give up his pursuit of what she described as "his dream job" if this is based on what "could" happen seems potentially a little premature.

Joyce Bang
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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westwing
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The irony here is If either one of them dropped dead tomorrow their employers that they’re willing to ruin their marriage for would replace them within a week ....

Tabitha K
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Divorce and move on, obviously. Your relationship is not priority #1 to either of you. Live your best lives, separately.

Stannous Flouride
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's obvious that she's actually M and her husband was offered a job by SMERSH (a portmanteau of the Russian Smyert Shpionam - Смерть Шпионам - which means "Death to Spies")

v
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Considering the stipulations leading to the divorce and since she makes more money if the judge will grant him alimony.

v
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like this "conversation" is much like the police body cam that was turned on when it was safe to do so and nobody outside of the individuals involved will ever know the truth.

Tacos Are Tasty
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The husband is the twat in this scenario, without question and it seems to me that she will in fact be better off without him. I hope she goes on to find a good, supportive mate who will respect her, because this man quite obviously doesn't deserve her.

Gogamash
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, I am sorry but I think, the husband should care for his career first. It's his life and he will be stuck with it, in particular if the marriage of those two persons crumbles for other reasons than this in the future.

Wonder Woman 848
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In my opinion; the wife is right. She has a good paying job that feeds and clothes and shelters them both. He wanted a job that would not support them and would probably get her fired. The OBVIOUS choice is to find a new job for hubby and/or divorce him.

Sam Kunz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can you imagine what the response would be if it was the husband telling the wife not to take a job? He'd be called sexist and abusive. He should take it and move out. This woman is looking for a reason to divorce. Move on.

Laura Pantazis
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with the redditor that wondered if the company would keep him if his wife left him. Given the circumstances, it does sound like the competitor may have hired him for his wife’s trade secrets.

Niall Allen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seems very messed up that she instantly wants a divorce if he takes the job. That shows that he means nothing to her at all, so he might as well take the job and move on and find someone that actually cares for him as much as themselves.

Joe Dad
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I believe that neither of them were at fault. The husband had to think about his own career and his future. He can't just sit by while his wife does all the work. He needs a job, too, and continue to gain work experience and develop skills. He did not do anything wrong by taking this job. Sure, it cost their relationship, but I can't blame him for choosing his career over her. She was selfish to make these demands on him and threat him with a divorce. No one has the authority to take someone else's free will. You. Are. Not. Supposed. To. Control. Your. Spouse. Respect your spouse's needs and wishes. Don't force your spouse to wear this, eat that, do this, listen to that, and whatnot. If you don't like it, then don't marry him/her. That is my two cents.

Otter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, he needs a job, both for his personal happiness and for the sake of his future career... but if he wants a job that would actively hurt his wife's interests then he's shown he's totally okay with hurting his wife to advance his own interests. That's never okay. He is choosing his career over his marriage, and there's no way the relationship can be saved.

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SumoNinja
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They both sound like not so great people. Based on the wife's version, the husband is worse, but even in the best light they both put career ahead of their spouse. Maybe I'm idealistic, but the idea of career ambition superseding relationship ambition sound ugly.

Easily Excitable Panda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Even if I trusted him..." That sounds like a warning bell for the whole marriage, regardless of their jobs!

Jace
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“...would you sacrifice your family for your career?” Um, no. Certainly not a family I was building by choice. It’s different if we’re talking about moving away from family we grew up with.

AndersM
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think she's not all wrong. Poor people. What a dilemma! Hope they'll figure it out.

Cynthia Bonville
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Soooo I gave up a career for family, your husband can do that same thing. Besides, the reason they hired him is because of you - I am sure they know exactly who you are.

Brett Layton
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's better off without her, she can marry her company she loves it far more than him. Count himself lucky she can have her money and job and think warm thoughts to herself once teh company turns her out to save money becuase I assure you they will eventually.

El muerto
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

she is trying to dictate what jobbs he can get, and she never even consider the husbands feelings or his live into something...you could argue than he should leave her...she is not the only one in the partnership, but she automatically decided that her career was more important. he went for a jobb that could endanger her career and against her wishes...is really obvious than both are putting their careers above of the relationship. is a no brainer...divorce win-win

Abigail Green
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know you'll all down vote this but the husband is right. It's just a job, that should NEVER come before your marriage. I'd rather live on the street and still be married.

Michael Ward
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the hell is wrong with all you people thinking it's normal to pick a job over your spouse? A job is just a job, it's not your life, it's just somewhere you go to do duties to get paid, nothing more. And as soon as they have any difficulty at all they'll drop you without a second thought, they have no loyalty to you. If any of you are prioritizing your job over your family, you'll end up without either, and you'll deserve it.

The Dave
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She handled this terribly, but he didn’t do perfectly either. Threatening divorce because of this situation is ridiculous. People just don’t take marriage seriously anymore. Marriage takes precedence over career. PERIOD.

Cathelijne Van
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a proposal; instead of hearing just one side of the story, both sides may write an essay of 500-1000 words and THEN we decide who is the asshole.

స్టీఫెన్ ఆండ్రూ
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Her requests are reasonable; her processes are not. She could have handled it much better.

Commander Rex
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That was the only real way, the way she put it, you wouldn’t want celebrity secretaries and then news operators in the same house, or even married.

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SouthernGrace
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Honestly, both are in the wrong. If he really wants to take that job then he should because it's HIS dream. I don't like that he applied behind her back, but she is being unreasonable and is acting out of fear for her job security. If she was so scared then she should have gone to her boss and explained what's going on and what results could come if he takes the job. Ending a marriage over something as temporary as a job is very selfish for the both of them. They should've worked through it together and told their employees about their dilemma. Both are in the wrong and that's how I see it.

Johnny
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3 years ago

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This sounds likes an exageration - the husband of a senior developer at my company works for one of our top competitors (where he too is a senior developer), and there's no problem with it, it's openly known at the company. If anything, they are more careful than most employees about protecting IP since their employers are well known. I doubt that in my state (California) it would even be legal for a company to discriminate against someone because of where their spouse works. Besides, the people that are most likely to steal IP aren't going to broadcast their relationship with a competitor so I'm not sure that the relationship even puts the company at exceptional risk.

Luca Taddy
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3 years ago

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combination of many things at once. I'm not disagreeing with her in anyway, I know what it's like to work in a very specialized field, but I feel like this just took a really bad turn, you know. She isn't wrong, he didn't want to meet her halfway...it's a lot of factors at play.https://streamingdedi.com/

Dee on bikes
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3 years ago

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Is anybody else suspicious of her career? The way it's described is like, "He got a job cleaning up baby seals from oil spills, I work for a legal firm that defends oil companies."... Perhaps the fact that their "dream jobs" are literally at odds with one another speaks to a deeper incompatibility.

Brett Connor
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Never specialize. And to think " you can't be replaced" is ludicrous. The biggest specialization across the planet in the last 25 years is. Liberal Stupidity.

K Witmer
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What are you even talking about trumper? You people make no sense bc you're in a cult thats as specialized as it comes

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Someone
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3 years ago

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I say both of them get the same job! Both should get 65k job!

Viviane
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The job is only being offered to one of them. Also, some companies have rules against hiring couples. She makes a lot more money than 65k, so she's not willing to start over in another field. Plus there's no guarantee that he'll keep the job he wants (what if he gets fired or laid off?), whereas she's had her job for quite a while and can support both of them.

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