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5 Y.O. Girl Wrote Parents A Persuasive Letter Demanding They Change Her Name
As soon as kids learn to talk, they talk a lot. About anything and all the time. So, it’s natural that parents start to filter out certain things they say. But sometimes they are persistent in what they say, words quickly become actions, and you can’t but react.
Meet Bri, a mother, wife, and educator who has a daughter named Charlie, who recently asked to have her name changed. At first it sounded like something kids would say, but she was serious—so serious, in fact, that she even wrote a persuasive letter.
More Info: TikTok Video Pt. 1 | TikTok Video Pt. 2 | TikTok Update Video
Kids can be very determined and this mom’s 5 y.o. daughter shows just how far it can all go
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Bri is the face behind the TikTok channel @bri_mom3. Some days ago, she posted a two-part video in celebration of women’s history day where she told a story about her daughter Charlie Paige.
You see, Charlie decided at 5 years of age that she wanted to change her name from Charlie to Charlotte. But it wasn’t enough for her to simply ask. Apparently, the parents were not convinced.
Meet Bri, a mom who shared a story of how her 5 y.o. Charlie (Charlotte) wanted to change her name
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Instead of being Charlie Page, she wanted to become Charlotte
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But instead of begging, Charlie took initiative and did her research on how to pull it off
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So, Charlie took action. She did some research on what you need to do to get your name changed: she had to go to court, pay around $200, it has to be published, and the parents have to agree to it.
First, she wrote a persuasive letter explaining why she wants to officially change her name to Charlotte. Then, she started selling friendship bracelets. Bri later found out Charlie had managed to raise a total of $150 by just doing that.
Yeah… you might guess that the rest—going to court and having it published—is going to be a piece of cake for a kid who’s that determined!
Both Bri and her husband were surprised to see Charlie write a persuasive letter and raise 80 bucks by selling friendship bracelets
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She ended up raising a total of $150 out of the required ~$200 for the court expenses
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Bri went to TikTok explaining this whole situation and asking the viewers to share what they thought Bri should do. Well, several million views later, the videos went viral, which prompted Bri to share the transcript of her letter, and it’s pretty heartwarming.
Bri initially posted 2 videos explaining the situation, but once they reached 4M views, she released a third one where she read the persuasive letter
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The letter read: “Dear mommy and daddy, I like it better than Charlie, Charlotte is a girl name and it’s the prettiest name ever. I don’t like Charlie, Charlotte is my passion. Love, Charlie.”
“Charlotte is a better name than Charlie, Charlotte makes me feel strong, Charlotte makes me feel independent, Charlotte makes me feel pretty, Charlotte makes me feel creative and Charlotte makes me feel loved.”
“To dad, I know you don’t want me to change my name, but can we change my name for me please.”
After all of this, mom’s on board, but they are still trying to persuade dad to allow Charlie to change her name. Dad has already made a custom backpack with her name on it, and the vast support for this decision is visible on TikTok, so it does seem like they’ve got this, but it’s not official just yet.
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The videos managed to collectively gather over 4.1 million views with more than 700,000 likes and thousands of comments. This little request turned into a mini campaign to make it happen. Well, now she’s really making history!
Check out the video detailing Charlie’s letter
@bri_mom3##stitch with @bri_mom3 Help us turn dad team Charlotte! tik tok do your thing! ##charlietocharlotte ##sabiasque ##lifestyle ##fyp ##90saesthetic♬ original sound – Bri 🖤
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Shelp 3 years ago
Hm. This is sweet, the little girl is very brave, but I don't know what to think about the whole thing. I feel quite uncomfortable with how her mother publicises the whole thing. I mean, the "my 5 YO is gathering $200 by herself and writing letters and generally acting like an adult because we didn't bother to give her a real name and now I'm filming the whole thing and I expect you to give ME upvotes for letting our kid engaging a legal battle by herself while we post it on the Internet" makes me perplex at best.
K. 3 years ago
I am not thinking about the other things, and I don’t know why she posted that. I just like how she handled it, her child didn’t like the name and took the initiative to research, save money, and explain her (the child) desire to them. She accepted instead of saying “no, you’ll live with the name we gave you.”
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Niffler_13 3 years ago
I have a hard time believing that a 5 year old could do that kind of research unless they are a child prodigy. The line "dear dad, I know you named me, but can you do it for me and mom?" Makes me believe the mother doesn't like the name and had a hand in creating the whole name change.
ADHD 3 years ago
kids are smarter now than when you or i were kids, 12 year olds can hack websites etc.
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Xan A. Du 3 years ago
I may be in the minority here, but WHY is this being made public? Good for being able to express how you feel, but haven't most kids questioned their name? Why they have it? How it came to be? Among many, many, many other things? This is not post-worthy. Not everything in life needs to be broadcasted. How about just enjoy spending time with your child and not think about a social media angle?
Jackson Gohn 3 years ago
What a weird mom. Why is she even posting this? She must be so desperate for attention.
Victoria Pitt 3 years ago
She looks younger, I think it's just a generational thing. Everyone posts everything. That part seems to be the least weird thing about the story.
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Gabi 3 years ago
Soooo, your 5 years old kid researched how to change her name, wrote a letter, made friendship bracelets and sold them. Also, she knows very well the what it means to "feel strong" and "independent" and the new name would make her "feel loved". Now, either your child is a prodigy or this is a serious bullshit. Guess what, I go with the BS theory. On a footnote, how much can someone earn by exploiting their child on tiktok? Asking for a friend.
More Thinking Needed 3 years ago
Spend just 5 minutes on this woman's TikTok page and you will see this is nothing more than a publicity stunt done at the expense of a young child.
LLCooL L 3 years ago
Sounds like mom doesn't like the name Charlie and is heaping a lifetime of identity and esteem issues on her daughter by manipulating her into putting on this little dog and pony show. Five year old children do not have that command of written language unless they've gotten a lot of help from Mom. Also, she's gotta be pretty precocious if she's got the manual dexterity to make quality friendship bracelets at age 5. Seems like she's getting a little help there too. Like, she just made $150 dollars worth of bracelets without her parents knowing? What, did she hitchhike to the craft store, panhandle out front for the money to buy her supplies, and then wake up before dawn every day and secretly braid complex bracelets without Mom ever catching on? C'mon. The whole charade stinks. How about just teaching your kids to love and accept their uniqueness, just the way they are?
Lauren Caswell 3 years ago (edited)
The whole 'hey dad, do it for me and mom' really irked me, it feels so coached, and as the parent of a child who has endured manipulative coaching from their other parent it raises my hackles to no end!
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Anarchy (they/them) 3 years ago
I may get downvoted but I think legally changing a 5 year old's name because the 5 year old wanted to seems kind of pointless. What if the kid wants to go back to being Charlie in a year? Or wants to change it again and again, I think you could've called her Charlotte and told her teachers to call her Charlotte and then legally changed it when she was older. I mean I hated my name ever since I was a child and I have wanted to change it for ages. But my parents would never let me when I was really young because I might've just been being impulsive. I know she raised the money and did the research but I just think changing her name at 5 is a bit strange. Now that I'm older if I brought it up with my parents they would take it seriously because I am older and more mature. Sorry if this seems rude but it just doesn't make sense to me
Tracy Sellars 3 years ago
Completely agree at her aged I wanted to be called rainbow.
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Cami 3 years ago
how did this make history exactly? also she said her kid did research.... I know I wasn't allowed on the internet until I was like nine for school. Otherwise, my mom would log in for me so I could play webkinz. Is this a new thing?
Tiffany Choi 3 years ago
Idk but if my kid came home with a wad of cash after cheer practice at 5 years old I'd be making a lot of phone calls apologizing and returning cash to other parents
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Kristie Yuill 3 years ago
The fact that she has so much awareness at 5 years old that Charlie is not a "girl's name", and the line "do it for me and mom" makes me wonder if the mother, who apparently also doesn't like the name Charlie, is the one who made the daughter dislike her name. That maybe she's the one who pointed out that it's a boy's name, and encouraged her daughter to guilt her father into allowing it to be changed.
Lauren Caswell 3 years ago
Coaching kids like that is so damaging it really irks me
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Sam Kunz 3 years ago
I'm not buying this. The 5 year old wrote that letter? I'm calling BS. This is clearly a mother seeking attention. Kids are susceptible to influence by a parent. I think the mother regretted naming her daughter Charlie and wants attention. "my daughter is gonna make history"? Come on, lady. Get real.
Lori T Wisconsin 3 years ago
Mom’s desperately seeking attention. Disgusting. Another mom like that piece of gooey garbage Mama June, with Honey Boo Brat Fat.
Lira Mai 3 years ago
Your first sentence would be a good title to this article.
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Shinomi Chan 3 years ago
Hello mom living through her kid.. Doubt any 5-year old can do all that research by themselves. Also wiritng without spelling mistakes? Yeah nah
Leslie Burleson 3 years ago
I call BS . What 5 year old knows how to "research" a name change policy ? We started a name change because my son's birth certificate entered the name incorrectly. It took an attorney , and two years to get it changed . My youngest wanted to change her name to Rachel. I called her Rachel all day. When I put her to bed she said "mom, I don't want to be Rachel anymore , I just want to be Sophie". My Grandson held on the longest with his name change desire . He had everyone calling him Chase for months . He told strangers his name was Chase . I don't know what made him ok with being Noah again, but I'm so glad that phase is over
Steve Ramaekers 3 years ago
My son made us call him Dorothy from the wizard of oz for the better part of a year :). Hahaha. This story is BS and sad all around
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This reeks of bs. I’d maybe believe it if the letter wasn’t so verbose, but this seems like something the mom did to profit off of her kid.
Helena Murphy 3 years ago
At 5 (FIVE) she researched, planned it and even wrote a letter ....... yeah and the pugs are fed and ready to fly! No ordinary 5yo can do any of that and I do not think for a single moment that this child is so incredibly gifted that she will attend university at age 6.
Hodor! Hodor? 3 years ago
The child should be grateful she got a normal name. Her poor Mum is a piece of cheese
Jack Centner 3 years ago
This would actually be a good story to tell other little girls around the US that hate their name (I am a boy), but I still like the name Charlie Paige.
Luna Lovegood! 3 years ago (edited)
I would agree, this would be totally heartwarming, if I believed it were real. Maybe she sold a bracelet to her cheer teacher, and made $ 0.80, but I do not believe your 5Y.O. sold bracelets for $1 each, and every single other kid at her cheer practice had cash on them, and she made $80 in one cheer practice. I also do not think that at 5 years old, she wrote all of those letters, with all of those complicated words. She "wrote" that her dad picked her name, meaning you might have made her want to change her name because both of you don't like it. And I know this is making me sound like a weird detective, but..well..yeah. Also, why publicise this? If you really believe in your kid that much, why aren't you just happy with her trying? why would you feel the need to put it all over the internet?
Silas O'Connell 3 years ago
I went into this expecting to read about a mother proud of the way her smart little girl advocates for herself. Nope, the mother sounds whiney and rude. The whole "parents complaining about their kids on the internet" thing goes a bit too far sometimes.
Hannah Edwards 3 years ago
This is why I gave my children names that can be less formal at home, school etc and then a version for if they ever become a high court judge.
Paradise 3 years ago
My brother is a lawyer and has a good lawyer name. His middle name is Lawrence, but we have Lafayette in our family name. My parents contemplated Lafayette but realized it was a no go. Thankfully. But we joke he should go by *first initial* Lafayette *last* name. As his lawyer name.
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IlovemydogShilo 3 years ago
I went to school with a girl called Charlotte. Her nickname was Charlotte the harlot. Take from that what you will.
Aimee ash 3 years ago
As a mother of 4 and even if I had no children tbf I dont believe all of this, yea her daughter likely asked to change her name lots of kids ask , looking up the legalities and all the rest of it seems highly unlikely, although a lot of highly unlikely things seem to happen to parents with social media accounts
Rita Shapiro 3 years ago
Soon she'll be going to court to become emancipated at 16, then will drag her parents' butts back into to court as she sues them to force payment of out of state tuition. Later, she'll forbid them from seeing their grandkids and will ensure that her siblings get no inheritance after their death. And doubtless this clueless mom will keep us all updated on social media. Except for the inheritance stuff, of course
Anxiety 3 years ago
Now that I think about it I never had a problem with my first or last name. True it got annoying having to explain how to spell them every godDAMN time, but their meaning are pretty awesome, even if my parent didn’t know the true meaning to my first name. Also how on earth does a five year old get access to look up this stuff.... I doubt they would take the initiative to get a library book, much less read it.
OHIOWAndering_Around 3 years ago
My first and last names were an absolute nightmare. Neither was ever pronounced or spelled right. I still answer to "Hey, you" like it's actually my name. I always joke that I went from a whacky Dutch last name to an equally crazy English-German-French last name.
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Mourlie 3 years ago
I'm sorry, but I call utter bullshit. I have a 5 year old nephew. He's ahead of all of his friends because he can already read simple words and do some maths. I don't believe for a second that a 5 year old child wrote this letter. It just seems to me like an adult tried to imitate a child's wording and handwriting for internet fame. If not, this child REALLY is a prodigy.
BabyBooby 3 years ago
Why the hell you name a girl charlie to begin with. Grown ups are the stupidest ass things God ever created......I know I can't rewrite the Bible but I bet if He had made Adam and Eve as kids and then let them grow into adults.....I could possibly be in a perfect world sitting butt naked under a peach tree petting my unicorn who's name is patty🙈🥳
Tiny Dynamine 3 years ago
I stupidly started reading the screenshots, then forgot that the video would be RIGHT AT THE END. Jesus, why do you do that? Are you just obsessed with making posts as long as possible?
Charlotte Rohrer 3 years ago
It's funny, my name is Charlotte but I prefer Charlie, Chuck more specifically! 😁
Paradise 3 years ago
I think the girl had an idea, the mom helped her, and the mom is giving the credit because there are lots of stories out there where the parents take themselves out of it to empower their child more, and nothing is wrong with that. if that is the case, she could say "she had the idea, and we guided her a little with things like helped her look up and explain the process." If the girl wants to be called something else similar, I say that isn't a huge problem, but at 18 can choose to legally change it. I know if my kids wants another name I would have a hard time calling them that as I am not used to it but if they are serious about it I would come to terms with it. it used to be Charlie for a girl was the cute, non-traditional, gender-breaking thing. But now I think why change it to a "boy" name, unless you want to name a boy Charlotte. I still think Charlie is fine for a girl, but I don't find it gender-meshing anymore.
Prisha Mahajan 3 years ago
That's pretty smart, I didn't expect a little kid to take such initiative. As a girl, I would have stayed with Charlie lol, but that's pretty cool
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Sharon Albaine-Graves 2 years ago
I'm not surprise she wanted to change your name. Charlie is a boys name. What kind of craziness was going through your mind when you decided to give a boys name to a little girl.
Edna Monterrosa 2 years ago
I feel this so much. I hate my first name and although my dad named me he only ever used my middle name which is far prettier. I wish I could've switched it out when I was a kid. Then I wouldn't feel so awkward changing it now. haha.
Diane Maughan 2 years ago
Just FYI, It's been well know for decades now that you don't put a child's name on articles of clothing, backpacks, purses etc. Strangers will use it to trick the children. I had it happen to me 40 years ago.
Melanie Linehan 2 years ago
I find this hard to believe that a 5 year older could do this all on her own: Even the video says "Dad, do it for me and mom. If I'm wrong , and she did come up with this on her own, what is going to happen in a year or two if she wants to change it again. Personally, I would tell her to save her money and let her go by Charolette if that is what makes her happy. Something tells me that this "legal" name change is moms idea, not hers.
Sunflowercray 3 years ago
UPDATE: It was bad enough this tall tale was posted by this "Insta-mom, Tik-mok, Twit-mama, Face-mook" or whatever the next thirsty mom turned influencer is called now. But I was absolutely floored when I saw said mom on tv this morning! Did she think about all the attention her daughter is gonna get? It won't all be positive. Kids can be cruel and so can their parents. Look, raise your children as you see fit. Nobody could tell me I didn't raise the smartest, funniest, most handsome boys ever born. One of my sons is proudly serving in the USCG (he'd be upset if he knew I wrote about him). But I lost my other son just days before he turned 25. I might be extra sensitive. But it really hits a nerve when I see parents making money or courting fame using their kids.
Bettye McKee 3 years ago
Parents should give more thought to the future when naming their baby. I gave my daughter Elizabeth, a name from which other names could be drawn in case she didn't like her name. Her middle name is Eileen which is the part I didn't think she would like. But she has always been Eileen and she loves the name because it is a little unusual.
Argha Chowdhury 3 years ago
The way this article has been written reminds me of clickbait websites where they repeat the same thing over and over again. Basically making a mountain out of a mole hill. Very little content, very big article. Not expected from BP!
I Just Changed My Name 3 years ago
Since her name is legally Charlotte and doesn't want to be called by the nickname, just call her the formal name unless I'm missing something here...
TexasWoman 3 years ago
This is all a big fairy tale; the mom is who wrote the letter n all because SHE wants her daughter to be called Charlotte. Why would you name a girl Charlie anyway?
Not My Name 3 years ago
Isn't Charlie short for Charlotte anyway? Her real name is already Charlotte so I don't see why her parents havnt told her that instead of her raising money to change her name. None of this makes sense.
Abigail Nagel 3 years ago
I am so impressed that Charlotte was able to do this at five years old. This is amazing. You go, girl!!
Donna Reynolds 3 years ago
They knew the media would eat this up. And they did. Hope the daughter learned a positive message rather than a manipulative one.
James Pointer 3 years ago
I mean... You likely should have called her Charlotte legally as that's a given name and not a nickname of a given name... and called her Charlie in person.. "Given names" allow for wide variation. nicknames just go back into their given names. Regardless, Charlotte is a variation on the name Charles, so whatever kids told her Charlie isn't a female name.. It's unisex regardless.. Almost every name has it's counterpart..
Elizabeth Ryan 3 years ago
I can't get my 10 year old to write a proper thank you note. 5 years old? pffft
Carol Emory 3 years ago
Do it! She's worked this hard! Better for her to change it now while she's young than for her to wait until she's 18 and does it on her own.
Paul Werner 3 years ago
I like the name charlie for a girl it's not very common. I would encourage her to embrace it and own that s**t! For the time being use charlotte as a nickname and once she's 18 and still wants to change it go for it.
Abby Machin 3 years ago
It's interesting how the first letter on lined paper has y's that go in the right direction and are made from just two straight lines, as well as writing that goes way off the lines, yet on the unlined paper suddenly her y's are backwards but now stylized and she's able to write in straight lines, even without the guides. Also, are you not supervising this child at all? How was she able to, without any adult being aware of it, access the internet to research changing her name (not to mention understand the legalese she was reading), obtain materials for enough friendship bracelet's to make $150, make them all (and I assume there must have been a whole lot, even if she sold them for several dollars each), AND sell them to enough people before you noticed? Not possible even if she was a prodigy unless you are completely checked out of this FIVE YEAR OLD's life. This is so contrived, I hate it.
Paradise 3 years ago
I don't know about that as a full name, bur a a nickname to Charlotte. I am surprised her name isn't Charlotte to begin with, and they shorted it to Charlie.
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Damon Tripodi 3 years ago
She should keep her original name because it's gender non-conforming
Paradise 3 years ago
I thought too originally when I was younger. But because it is originally a boy's name, it is another example of conforming to males and making it acceptable for women vs the other way around as "tomboy" is more acceptable by some than...well, we don't have a name for the other way around. Also, I like Charlie as a short version of Charlotte, so I didn't say this as anti-Charlie.
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Tylar Martinez 3 years ago
Change her name, if dad likes charlie so much maybe he can call her that himself as a nick name. if a kid can come to thair parent and say "mom i don't feel like a boy inside i want to be a girl" and those parents can adjust and support their child. I don't see why these ones can't support their child in wanting to change their name to a slightly more feminine version. My daughter and I both have names that are normally masculine, and we love it......but because of my experience and having to sign ALL emails with "Ms." or "Mrs." just to prevent people from unnecessarily misgendering me is pretty annoying. I support this little one, she should have the right to say I want a regular name not a nick name
Raccoon 3 years ago
I think Charlotte did the right thing by doing her research. I have never felt the need to change my name but that’s how I would’ve done it. Charlotte is such a feminine and pretty name and I hope she loves her new name for years to come
Denise Lewis 3 years ago
as someone with a terrible name that mostly gets called the male version i can't say as i blame her i was picked on my whole child hood because one i think my mother wanted a boy so she made me look like one i was not the kid with new clothes every year my hair was always cut short and the other girls would catch me in the bathroom in elementary school and hand me lip gloss and things like that and then laugh at me because i had no clue how to apply these things the teachers would even pick on me about my hair and clothes i had no choice in either one of these choices is what they didn't understand and then there was my name people would call me Dennis instead of Denise there was even the day i went into the grocery store to buy something and the man in front of me said i will let this young man go ahead of me if it helps her to change her name let her do it not like she is asking for some weird name it a perfectly normal name she doesn't want to be identified as a boy by people
Paradise 3 years ago
I am not going to argue what you are saying BUT it was hard to read without periods or proper caps. That was one majorly long sentence.
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Shelby P 3 years ago
You come to this website, which is a forum for posting just about anything online... you read the whole story because you were curious or whatever... and then you decided that it's wrong of this person to *choose* to post her experience on this website. It may not be completely genuine or maybe it is... but what a hypocrite to judge the validity of the post that you have patroned ...
Paradise 3 years ago
And we CHOOSE to not believe it, as we do many other things online. How is it hypocritical? We have to be informed about what we read to form an opinion. We don't have to have an opinion saying we think the story is true. I am really scratching my head at your reasoning. It makes no sense. There was no "only click this if you're going to read it" clause.
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Rick Seiden 3 years ago
I have a "thing" about my name. I'm a Jr (and I love that) but I don't go by my given name. I was called Ricky as a child and Rick as an adult. Unless there's a legal reason for me to use Richard, I use Rick. And I HATE it when people call me Richard without a good reason to. If someone calls and says, "Is Richard there?" I always answer back, "This is Rick." I totally understand where this little girl is coming from. But, I would NEVER change my name. NEVER. Because I love my father, and I'm happy to be a Jr. If Charlie has no special meaning beyond her parents liking it, I say let her change it. If they don't help her change it now, she'll change it on her 18th birthday without them. If there is a special meaning to it, they need to help her understand that special meaning, and when she's older (I don't know how much older), if she still doesn't want Charlie, help her change it.
Russell Ellwardt 3 years ago
I understand her. Charlie is a boy's name and has always had the connotation of a boy's name - think of Charlie Brown - or a nickname for tomboy girls who would rather have been boys. Charlie is an abbreviation, while Charlotte is a "real" name. Brave kid. I have always hated my first name (which is not "Russell", by the way) but would never have thought of this - it would have been useless with my parents anyway...
tomruns12 3 years ago
I have only one question. Why the f**k would you name your daughter Charlie?
littlesaresare 3 years ago
I know several girls called Charli. It's a fairly unisex name now.
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Id row 3 years ago
What a shame. Charlie is a great name for a girl, I've loved it ever since I saw Drew Barrymore in Firestarter. Charlotte is bland and reminds me of the Sex in the City character. I hope the parents don't do something permanent by legally changing it. A 5 y/o is not able to make these adult decisions and shouldn't be allowed to. And the parents should explain why they gave her that name, why it's special and why she should love it. Way too many parents are letting their young kids make adult choices for themselves these days. Kids have parents for a reason.
your local lesbian 3 years ago
“Charlotte is my passion” is by far the best statement i’ve ever heard
Bee Diaz 3 years ago
Idiotic parents for naming a girl with a boy's name in the first place. Do they not realize how much she would teased in school.
Della Greymane 3 years ago
For the love of Pete - do NOT put your kid's name on backpacks shirts and jackets.
WhoAreYouToSayPandasAreBored 3 years ago
You do realize schools specifically ask to have all the children's belongings labeled, right? I just sharpie their name on the tag but the name embroidered would look much nicer/easier lol
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Alsoomse Catori 3 years ago
I did this. Cost 200 bucks. My parents named me Roberta and my nick name everyone called me was Bobbie. I hated it, I wanted a girl name and not a grandma girl name. So I changed my name to juniper cuz I'm more of a nature girl not a girl with a boy name.
Linda Haney 3 years ago
If this kid wanted to change gender to fit her name I bet most on this progressive board would be her champions.
DarkLumiya 3 years ago
i've hated my surname every since I can remember because without my will I was given my asshole fathers surname, I am still struggling with getting family to not treat me like a traitor for wanting to change it, for the love of God just change the girls name, it really messes up your identity if you hate something so personal as your name.
Laura Pantazis 3 years ago
To those that don't think that a 5 year old can research how to change a name, all she had to do was Google "How do I change my name in Indiana." A five year old can compose that sentence. One of the hits is "How much does it cost to legally change your name?" and the answer was about $104. So I believe it. I also think the mom posted it to TikTok to 1. share how tenacious her child is and 2. Hope that the publicity will change the father's mind. I think that if the daughter is able to articulate why she wants to change her name and then took the extra initiative to raise the fees, then I think that the parents should. If the daughter changes her mind later, they can change it back.
Paradise 3 years ago
Do you have a 5 year old? Some do not even know what state they live in at 5. And to spell Indiana? Then to understand search results, click a link, click other links (possibly) and read the correct info? I have worked with kids for 20 years and have a 4 and 7 year old. unless you have a VERY unique child, no. This is not how mainstream children work. She wanted to change her name since she knew her name. That means since she was like 6 months old. Or say her name, that is like 1-2 years. She would then have to know the name Charlotte and then correlate it. I don't know why they didn't name her Charlotte legally and nickname her Charlie-unless they really did and this is a ploy to go viral-but that was their choice. People name their kids Toaster and Phyllo Dough. On another note, bringing the public into your marital issue of your child's name is probably not good for a marriage.
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Shelp 3 years ago
Hm. This is sweet, the little girl is very brave, but I don't know what to think about the whole thing. I feel quite uncomfortable with how her mother publicises the whole thing. I mean, the "my 5 YO is gathering $200 by herself and writing letters and generally acting like an adult because we didn't bother to give her a real name and now I'm filming the whole thing and I expect you to give ME upvotes for letting our kid engaging a legal battle by herself while we post it on the Internet" makes me perplex at best.
K. 3 years ago
I am not thinking about the other things, and I don’t know why she posted that. I just like how she handled it, her child didn’t like the name and took the initiative to research, save money, and explain her (the child) desire to them. She accepted instead of saying “no, you’ll live with the name we gave you.”
Load More Replies... Niffler_13 3 years ago
I have a hard time believing that a 5 year old could do that kind of research unless they are a child prodigy. The line "dear dad, I know you named me, but can you do it for me and mom?" Makes me believe the mother doesn't like the name and had a hand in creating the whole name change.
ADHD 3 years ago
kids are smarter now than when you or i were kids, 12 year olds can hack websites etc.
Load More Replies... Xan A. Du 3 years ago
I may be in the minority here, but WHY is this being made public? Good for being able to express how you feel, but haven't most kids questioned their name? Why they have it? How it came to be? Among many, many, many other things? This is not post-worthy. Not everything in life needs to be broadcasted. How about just enjoy spending time with your child and not think about a social media angle?
Jackson Gohn 3 years ago
What a weird mom. Why is she even posting this? She must be so desperate for attention.
Victoria Pitt 3 years ago
She looks younger, I think it's just a generational thing. Everyone posts everything. That part seems to be the least weird thing about the story.
Load More Replies... Gabi 3 years ago
Soooo, your 5 years old kid researched how to change her name, wrote a letter, made friendship bracelets and sold them. Also, she knows very well the what it means to "feel strong" and "independent" and the new name would make her "feel loved". Now, either your child is a prodigy or this is a serious bullshit. Guess what, I go with the BS theory. On a footnote, how much can someone earn by exploiting their child on tiktok? Asking for a friend.
More Thinking Needed 3 years ago
Spend just 5 minutes on this woman's TikTok page and you will see this is nothing more than a publicity stunt done at the expense of a young child.
LLCooL L 3 years ago
Sounds like mom doesn't like the name Charlie and is heaping a lifetime of identity and esteem issues on her daughter by manipulating her into putting on this little dog and pony show. Five year old children do not have that command of written language unless they've gotten a lot of help from Mom. Also, she's gotta be pretty precocious if she's got the manual dexterity to make quality friendship bracelets at age 5. Seems like she's getting a little help there too. Like, she just made $150 dollars worth of bracelets without her parents knowing? What, did she hitchhike to the craft store, panhandle out front for the money to buy her supplies, and then wake up before dawn every day and secretly braid complex bracelets without Mom ever catching on? C'mon. The whole charade stinks. How about just teaching your kids to love and accept their uniqueness, just the way they are?
Lauren Caswell 3 years ago (edited)
The whole 'hey dad, do it for me and mom' really irked me, it feels so coached, and as the parent of a child who has endured manipulative coaching from their other parent it raises my hackles to no end!
Load More Replies... Anarchy (they/them) 3 years ago
I may get downvoted but I think legally changing a 5 year old's name because the 5 year old wanted to seems kind of pointless. What if the kid wants to go back to being Charlie in a year? Or wants to change it again and again, I think you could've called her Charlotte and told her teachers to call her Charlotte and then legally changed it when she was older. I mean I hated my name ever since I was a child and I have wanted to change it for ages. But my parents would never let me when I was really young because I might've just been being impulsive. I know she raised the money and did the research but I just think changing her name at 5 is a bit strange. Now that I'm older if I brought it up with my parents they would take it seriously because I am older and more mature. Sorry if this seems rude but it just doesn't make sense to me
Tracy Sellars 3 years ago
Completely agree at her aged I wanted to be called rainbow.
Load More Replies... Cami 3 years ago
how did this make history exactly? also she said her kid did research.... I know I wasn't allowed on the internet until I was like nine for school. Otherwise, my mom would log in for me so I could play webkinz. Is this a new thing?
Tiffany Choi 3 years ago
Idk but if my kid came home with a wad of cash after cheer practice at 5 years old I'd be making a lot of phone calls apologizing and returning cash to other parents
Load More Replies... Kristie Yuill 3 years ago
The fact that she has so much awareness at 5 years old that Charlie is not a "girl's name", and the line "do it for me and mom" makes me wonder if the mother, who apparently also doesn't like the name Charlie, is the one who made the daughter dislike her name. That maybe she's the one who pointed out that it's a boy's name, and encouraged her daughter to guilt her father into allowing it to be changed.
Lauren Caswell 3 years ago
Coaching kids like that is so damaging it really irks me
Load More Replies... Sam Kunz 3 years ago
I'm not buying this. The 5 year old wrote that letter? I'm calling BS. This is clearly a mother seeking attention. Kids are susceptible to influence by a parent. I think the mother regretted naming her daughter Charlie and wants attention. "my daughter is gonna make history"? Come on, lady. Get real.
Lori T Wisconsin 3 years ago
Mom’s desperately seeking attention. Disgusting. Another mom like that piece of gooey garbage Mama June, with Honey Boo Brat Fat.
Lira Mai 3 years ago
Your first sentence would be a good title to this article.
Load More Replies... Shinomi Chan 3 years ago
Hello mom living through her kid.. Doubt any 5-year old can do all that research by themselves. Also wiritng without spelling mistakes? Yeah nah
Leslie Burleson 3 years ago
I call BS . What 5 year old knows how to "research" a name change policy ? We started a name change because my son's birth certificate entered the name incorrectly. It took an attorney , and two years to get it changed . My youngest wanted to change her name to Rachel. I called her Rachel all day. When I put her to bed she said "mom, I don't want to be Rachel anymore , I just want to be Sophie". My Grandson held on the longest with his name change desire . He had everyone calling him Chase for months . He told strangers his name was Chase . I don't know what made him ok with being Noah again, but I'm so glad that phase is over
Steve Ramaekers 3 years ago
My son made us call him Dorothy from the wizard of oz for the better part of a year :). Hahaha. This story is BS and sad all around
Load More Replies... Logic and Reason 3 years ago
This reeks of bs. I’d maybe believe it if the letter wasn’t so verbose, but this seems like something the mom did to profit off of her kid.
Helena Murphy 3 years ago
At 5 (FIVE) she researched, planned it and even wrote a letter ....... yeah and the pugs are fed and ready to fly! No ordinary 5yo can do any of that and I do not think for a single moment that this child is so incredibly gifted that she will attend university at age 6.
Hodor! Hodor? 3 years ago
The child should be grateful she got a normal name. Her poor Mum is a piece of cheese
Jack Centner 3 years ago
This would actually be a good story to tell other little girls around the US that hate their name (I am a boy), but I still like the name Charlie Paige.
Luna Lovegood! 3 years ago (edited)
I would agree, this would be totally heartwarming, if I believed it were real. Maybe she sold a bracelet to her cheer teacher, and made $ 0.80, but I do not believe your 5Y.O. sold bracelets for $1 each, and every single other kid at her cheer practice had cash on them, and she made $80 in one cheer practice. I also do not think that at 5 years old, she wrote all of those letters, with all of those complicated words. She "wrote" that her dad picked her name, meaning you might have made her want to change her name because both of you don't like it. And I know this is making me sound like a weird detective, but..well..yeah. Also, why publicise this? If you really believe in your kid that much, why aren't you just happy with her trying? why would you feel the need to put it all over the internet?
Silas O'Connell 3 years ago
I went into this expecting to read about a mother proud of the way her smart little girl advocates for herself. Nope, the mother sounds whiney and rude. The whole "parents complaining about their kids on the internet" thing goes a bit too far sometimes.
Hannah Edwards 3 years ago
This is why I gave my children names that can be less formal at home, school etc and then a version for if they ever become a high court judge.
Paradise 3 years ago
My brother is a lawyer and has a good lawyer name. His middle name is Lawrence, but we have Lafayette in our family name. My parents contemplated Lafayette but realized it was a no go. Thankfully. But we joke he should go by *first initial* Lafayette *last* name. As his lawyer name.
Load More Replies... IlovemydogShilo 3 years ago
I went to school with a girl called Charlotte. Her nickname was Charlotte the harlot. Take from that what you will.
Aimee ash 3 years ago
As a mother of 4 and even if I had no children tbf I dont believe all of this, yea her daughter likely asked to change her name lots of kids ask , looking up the legalities and all the rest of it seems highly unlikely, although a lot of highly unlikely things seem to happen to parents with social media accounts
Rita Shapiro 3 years ago
Soon she'll be going to court to become emancipated at 16, then will drag her parents' butts back into to court as she sues them to force payment of out of state tuition. Later, she'll forbid them from seeing their grandkids and will ensure that her siblings get no inheritance after their death. And doubtless this clueless mom will keep us all updated on social media. Except for the inheritance stuff, of course
Anxiety 3 years ago
Now that I think about it I never had a problem with my first or last name. True it got annoying having to explain how to spell them every godDAMN time, but their meaning are pretty awesome, even if my parent didn’t know the true meaning to my first name. Also how on earth does a five year old get access to look up this stuff.... I doubt they would take the initiative to get a library book, much less read it.
OHIOWAndering_Around 3 years ago
My first and last names were an absolute nightmare. Neither was ever pronounced or spelled right. I still answer to "Hey, you" like it's actually my name. I always joke that I went from a whacky Dutch last name to an equally crazy English-German-French last name.
Load More Replies... Mourlie 3 years ago
I'm sorry, but I call utter bullshit. I have a 5 year old nephew. He's ahead of all of his friends because he can already read simple words and do some maths. I don't believe for a second that a 5 year old child wrote this letter. It just seems to me like an adult tried to imitate a child's wording and handwriting for internet fame. If not, this child REALLY is a prodigy.
BabyBooby 3 years ago
Why the hell you name a girl charlie to begin with. Grown ups are the stupidest ass things God ever created......I know I can't rewrite the Bible but I bet if He had made Adam and Eve as kids and then let them grow into adults.....I could possibly be in a perfect world sitting butt naked under a peach tree petting my unicorn who's name is patty🙈🥳
Tiny Dynamine 3 years ago
I stupidly started reading the screenshots, then forgot that the video would be RIGHT AT THE END. Jesus, why do you do that? Are you just obsessed with making posts as long as possible?
Charlotte Rohrer 3 years ago
It's funny, my name is Charlotte but I prefer Charlie, Chuck more specifically! 😁
Paradise 3 years ago
I think the girl had an idea, the mom helped her, and the mom is giving the credit because there are lots of stories out there where the parents take themselves out of it to empower their child more, and nothing is wrong with that. if that is the case, she could say "she had the idea, and we guided her a little with things like helped her look up and explain the process." If the girl wants to be called something else similar, I say that isn't a huge problem, but at 18 can choose to legally change it. I know if my kids wants another name I would have a hard time calling them that as I am not used to it but if they are serious about it I would come to terms with it. it used to be Charlie for a girl was the cute, non-traditional, gender-breaking thing. But now I think why change it to a "boy" name, unless you want to name a boy Charlotte. I still think Charlie is fine for a girl, but I don't find it gender-meshing anymore.
Prisha Mahajan 3 years ago
That's pretty smart, I didn't expect a little kid to take such initiative. As a girl, I would have stayed with Charlie lol, but that's pretty cool
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Sharon Albaine-Graves 2 years ago
I'm not surprise she wanted to change your name. Charlie is a boys name. What kind of craziness was going through your mind when you decided to give a boys name to a little girl.
Edna Monterrosa 2 years ago
I feel this so much. I hate my first name and although my dad named me he only ever used my middle name which is far prettier. I wish I could've switched it out when I was a kid. Then I wouldn't feel so awkward changing it now. haha.
Diane Maughan 2 years ago
Just FYI, It's been well know for decades now that you don't put a child's name on articles of clothing, backpacks, purses etc. Strangers will use it to trick the children. I had it happen to me 40 years ago.
Melanie Linehan 2 years ago
I find this hard to believe that a 5 year older could do this all on her own: Even the video says "Dad, do it for me and mom. If I'm wrong , and she did come up with this on her own, what is going to happen in a year or two if she wants to change it again. Personally, I would tell her to save her money and let her go by Charolette if that is what makes her happy. Something tells me that this "legal" name change is moms idea, not hers.
Sunflowercray 3 years ago
UPDATE: It was bad enough this tall tale was posted by this "Insta-mom, Tik-mok, Twit-mama, Face-mook" or whatever the next thirsty mom turned influencer is called now. But I was absolutely floored when I saw said mom on tv this morning! Did she think about all the attention her daughter is gonna get? It won't all be positive. Kids can be cruel and so can their parents. Look, raise your children as you see fit. Nobody could tell me I didn't raise the smartest, funniest, most handsome boys ever born. One of my sons is proudly serving in the USCG (he'd be upset if he knew I wrote about him). But I lost my other son just days before he turned 25. I might be extra sensitive. But it really hits a nerve when I see parents making money or courting fame using their kids.
Bettye McKee 3 years ago
Parents should give more thought to the future when naming their baby. I gave my daughter Elizabeth, a name from which other names could be drawn in case she didn't like her name. Her middle name is Eileen which is the part I didn't think she would like. But she has always been Eileen and she loves the name because it is a little unusual.
Argha Chowdhury 3 years ago
The way this article has been written reminds me of clickbait websites where they repeat the same thing over and over again. Basically making a mountain out of a mole hill. Very little content, very big article. Not expected from BP!
I Just Changed My Name 3 years ago
Since her name is legally Charlotte and doesn't want to be called by the nickname, just call her the formal name unless I'm missing something here...
TexasWoman 3 years ago
This is all a big fairy tale; the mom is who wrote the letter n all because SHE wants her daughter to be called Charlotte. Why would you name a girl Charlie anyway?
Not My Name 3 years ago
Isn't Charlie short for Charlotte anyway? Her real name is already Charlotte so I don't see why her parents havnt told her that instead of her raising money to change her name. None of this makes sense.
Abigail Nagel 3 years ago
I am so impressed that Charlotte was able to do this at five years old. This is amazing. You go, girl!!
Donna Reynolds 3 years ago
They knew the media would eat this up. And they did. Hope the daughter learned a positive message rather than a manipulative one.
James Pointer 3 years ago
I mean... You likely should have called her Charlotte legally as that's a given name and not a nickname of a given name... and called her Charlie in person.. "Given names" allow for wide variation. nicknames just go back into their given names. Regardless, Charlotte is a variation on the name Charles, so whatever kids told her Charlie isn't a female name.. It's unisex regardless.. Almost every name has it's counterpart..
Elizabeth Ryan 3 years ago
I can't get my 10 year old to write a proper thank you note. 5 years old? pffft
Carol Emory 3 years ago
Do it! She's worked this hard! Better for her to change it now while she's young than for her to wait until she's 18 and does it on her own.
Paul Werner 3 years ago
I like the name charlie for a girl it's not very common. I would encourage her to embrace it and own that s**t! For the time being use charlotte as a nickname and once she's 18 and still wants to change it go for it.
Abby Machin 3 years ago
It's interesting how the first letter on lined paper has y's that go in the right direction and are made from just two straight lines, as well as writing that goes way off the lines, yet on the unlined paper suddenly her y's are backwards but now stylized and she's able to write in straight lines, even without the guides. Also, are you not supervising this child at all? How was she able to, without any adult being aware of it, access the internet to research changing her name (not to mention understand the legalese she was reading), obtain materials for enough friendship bracelet's to make $150, make them all (and I assume there must have been a whole lot, even if she sold them for several dollars each), AND sell them to enough people before you noticed? Not possible even if she was a prodigy unless you are completely checked out of this FIVE YEAR OLD's life. This is so contrived, I hate it.
Paradise 3 years ago
I don't know about that as a full name, bur a a nickname to Charlotte. I am surprised her name isn't Charlotte to begin with, and they shorted it to Charlie.
Load More Replies... Damon Tripodi 3 years ago
She should keep her original name because it's gender non-conforming
Paradise 3 years ago
I thought too originally when I was younger. But because it is originally a boy's name, it is another example of conforming to males and making it acceptable for women vs the other way around as "tomboy" is more acceptable by some than...well, we don't have a name for the other way around. Also, I like Charlie as a short version of Charlotte, so I didn't say this as anti-Charlie.
Load More Replies... Tylar Martinez 3 years ago
Change her name, if dad likes charlie so much maybe he can call her that himself as a nick name. if a kid can come to thair parent and say "mom i don't feel like a boy inside i want to be a girl" and those parents can adjust and support their child. I don't see why these ones can't support their child in wanting to change their name to a slightly more feminine version. My daughter and I both have names that are normally masculine, and we love it......but because of my experience and having to sign ALL emails with "Ms." or "Mrs." just to prevent people from unnecessarily misgendering me is pretty annoying. I support this little one, she should have the right to say I want a regular name not a nick name
Raccoon 3 years ago
I think Charlotte did the right thing by doing her research. I have never felt the need to change my name but that’s how I would’ve done it. Charlotte is such a feminine and pretty name and I hope she loves her new name for years to come
Denise Lewis 3 years ago
as someone with a terrible name that mostly gets called the male version i can't say as i blame her i was picked on my whole child hood because one i think my mother wanted a boy so she made me look like one i was not the kid with new clothes every year my hair was always cut short and the other girls would catch me in the bathroom in elementary school and hand me lip gloss and things like that and then laugh at me because i had no clue how to apply these things the teachers would even pick on me about my hair and clothes i had no choice in either one of these choices is what they didn't understand and then there was my name people would call me Dennis instead of Denise there was even the day i went into the grocery store to buy something and the man in front of me said i will let this young man go ahead of me if it helps her to change her name let her do it not like she is asking for some weird name it a perfectly normal name she doesn't want to be identified as a boy by people
Paradise 3 years ago
I am not going to argue what you are saying BUT it was hard to read without periods or proper caps. That was one majorly long sentence.
Load More Replies... Shelby P 3 years ago
You come to this website, which is a forum for posting just about anything online... you read the whole story because you were curious or whatever... and then you decided that it's wrong of this person to *choose* to post her experience on this website. It may not be completely genuine or maybe it is... but what a hypocrite to judge the validity of the post that you have patroned ...
Paradise 3 years ago
And we CHOOSE to not believe it, as we do many other things online. How is it hypocritical? We have to be informed about what we read to form an opinion. We don't have to have an opinion saying we think the story is true. I am really scratching my head at your reasoning. It makes no sense. There was no "only click this if you're going to read it" clause.
Load More Replies... Rick Seiden 3 years ago
I have a "thing" about my name. I'm a Jr (and I love that) but I don't go by my given name. I was called Ricky as a child and Rick as an adult. Unless there's a legal reason for me to use Richard, I use Rick. And I HATE it when people call me Richard without a good reason to. If someone calls and says, "Is Richard there?" I always answer back, "This is Rick." I totally understand where this little girl is coming from. But, I would NEVER change my name. NEVER. Because I love my father, and I'm happy to be a Jr. If Charlie has no special meaning beyond her parents liking it, I say let her change it. If they don't help her change it now, she'll change it on her 18th birthday without them. If there is a special meaning to it, they need to help her understand that special meaning, and when she's older (I don't know how much older), if she still doesn't want Charlie, help her change it.
Russell Ellwardt 3 years ago
I understand her. Charlie is a boy's name and has always had the connotation of a boy's name - think of Charlie Brown - or a nickname for tomboy girls who would rather have been boys. Charlie is an abbreviation, while Charlotte is a "real" name. Brave kid. I have always hated my first name (which is not "Russell", by the way) but would never have thought of this - it would have been useless with my parents anyway...
tomruns12 3 years ago
I have only one question. Why the f**k would you name your daughter Charlie?
littlesaresare 3 years ago
I know several girls called Charli. It's a fairly unisex name now.
Load More Replies... Id row 3 years ago
What a shame. Charlie is a great name for a girl, I've loved it ever since I saw Drew Barrymore in Firestarter. Charlotte is bland and reminds me of the Sex in the City character. I hope the parents don't do something permanent by legally changing it. A 5 y/o is not able to make these adult decisions and shouldn't be allowed to. And the parents should explain why they gave her that name, why it's special and why she should love it. Way too many parents are letting their young kids make adult choices for themselves these days. Kids have parents for a reason.
your local lesbian 3 years ago
“Charlotte is my passion” is by far the best statement i’ve ever heard
Bee Diaz 3 years ago
Idiotic parents for naming a girl with a boy's name in the first place. Do they not realize how much she would teased in school.
Della Greymane 3 years ago
For the love of Pete - do NOT put your kid's name on backpacks shirts and jackets.
WhoAreYouToSayPandasAreBored 3 years ago
You do realize schools specifically ask to have all the children's belongings labeled, right? I just sharpie their name on the tag but the name embroidered would look much nicer/easier lol
Load More Replies... Alsoomse Catori 3 years ago
I did this. Cost 200 bucks. My parents named me Roberta and my nick name everyone called me was Bobbie. I hated it, I wanted a girl name and not a grandma girl name. So I changed my name to juniper cuz I'm more of a nature girl not a girl with a boy name.
Linda Haney 3 years ago
If this kid wanted to change gender to fit her name I bet most on this progressive board would be her champions.
DarkLumiya 3 years ago
i've hated my surname every since I can remember because without my will I was given my asshole fathers surname, I am still struggling with getting family to not treat me like a traitor for wanting to change it, for the love of God just change the girls name, it really messes up your identity if you hate something so personal as your name.
Laura Pantazis 3 years ago
To those that don't think that a 5 year old can research how to change a name, all she had to do was Google "How do I change my name in Indiana." A five year old can compose that sentence. One of the hits is "How much does it cost to legally change your name?" and the answer was about $104. So I believe it. I also think the mom posted it to TikTok to 1. share how tenacious her child is and 2. Hope that the publicity will change the father's mind. I think that if the daughter is able to articulate why she wants to change her name and then took the extra initiative to raise the fees, then I think that the parents should. If the daughter changes her mind later, they can change it back.
Paradise 3 years ago
Do you have a 5 year old? Some do not even know what state they live in at 5. And to spell Indiana? Then to understand search results, click a link, click other links (possibly) and read the correct info? I have worked with kids for 20 years and have a 4 and 7 year old. unless you have a VERY unique child, no. This is not how mainstream children work. She wanted to change her name since she knew her name. That means since she was like 6 months old. Or say her name, that is like 1-2 years. She would then have to know the name Charlotte and then correlate it. I don't know why they didn't name her Charlotte legally and nickname her Charlie-unless they really did and this is a ploy to go viral-but that was their choice. People name their kids Toaster and Phyllo Dough. On another note, bringing the public into your marital issue of your child's name is probably not good for a marriage.
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