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30 Times Authority Figures Misled The Public By Telling Them The Most Destructive Lies In Human History
Interview With Author
We all lie. From little white lies to intricate manipulations, lies lurk around practically every corner of every single social interaction you have. TED estimates that we’re lied to between 10 to a whopping 200 times a day. We ourselves tell 1 or 2 lies every day, on average (even if we’d like to think of ourselves as humble and honest).
And while some lies are made with good intentions so as not to hurt someone’s feelings, others are done to actively harm and deceive others. For instance, some might cover up sensitive information that would harm a company’s profits because of how dangerous a product or material really is. Others use lies to further their political or corporate agendas by cherry-picking findings.
From people being told that smoking and lead in gasoline aren’t dangerous to sugar supposedly being ‘healthier’ than eating fats, the folks over on r/AskReddit called out all of the biggest, most destructive lies in human history.
The viral thread is a living testament to the fact that, though we should generally lean towards trusting scientists and experts, we should also learn how to distinguish between reliable and unreliable sources. Not to mention how important it is to double-check facts, think about the potential hidden motivations of any authority figure, and ask hard and uncomfortable questions. No authority figure should be taken at their word blindly. (The key word here is 'blindly.')
Bored Panda reached out to the author of the viral thread, Reddit user u/thoughtofeverything to have a chat about information reliability. What's more, we got in touch with Steven Wooding, a member of the Institute of Physics in the UK, a member of the Omni Calculator Project, and the creator of the Weird Units Converter. Read on for both interviews.
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#1
Climate change is YOUR fault. YOU need to change the way YOU do things. Not the corporate conglomerate that's pumping a billion tons a year
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#2
If we give tax breaks to the wealthy the wealth will trickle down!
Mark Fuller 2 years ago
Any of you lot from the U.K.?? We've just seen a car crash of an attempt to drive this agenda and it's shattered our economy in less than three weeks. How thick can our PM be when she thinks that millionaires are compassionate, altruistic individuals wholly committed to sharing and spreading wealth. Bloody idiot!
#3
Nestle — The Baby Killer Scandal. They deliberately lied to mothers in developing countries to sell their baby formula, telling them that their own milk was nutritionally insufficient and their babies would be unhealthy if they continued to breastfeed them. The result of this marketing campaign was approximately 66,000 infant mortalities.
Source: https://www.nber.org/papers/w24452
The author of the viral post, redditor u/thoughtofeverything shared a few thoughts about distinguishing between reliable and unreliable sources and experts. They said that there probably isn't a definite answer to this.
"In our post-truth world it’s harder than ever to find information that’s not only truthful, but isn’t skewed in a way to present a particular bias or pit people against each other," they told Bored Panda.
"The only advice I can give is to not blindly accept anything and not rely on just one source of info. It’s our responsibility to be critical, discerning, objective and not fall into the confirmation bias trap."
#4
You can achieve anything you want in your life if you work hard enough.
#5
There is a God and you should kill all those who don’t believe in your God.
Den Ver 2 years ago (edited)
It's not uncommon to hear religious people say that Hitler and Stalin killed millions because they didn't believe in God. My 1st response is to point out they are deflecting the conversation in order to deny the awful history of religion. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . My 2nd is to point out that it wasn't Stalin's or Hitler's lack of faith in established religion (Hitler's views are complicated - he wasn't an atheist) that resulted in the death of millions, it was their mustaches. Both men had distinctive mustaches and both men caused millions to suffer. When they look befuddled, I tell them I don't really believe this, but it's no less absurd than saying they killed millions because they didn't believe in God. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CORRELATION AND CAUSATION. Their lack of belief didn't cause millions to die anymore than their mustaches caused millions to die. There is, however, an undeniable direct link, between religious belief and the torture and killing of millions of people over thousands of years in the name of an unproven deities.
Lyone Fein 2 years ago (edited)
As someone with a PhD in Comparative Religion, I feel that it is crucial to point out that a belief in a Grand Unifying Theory (which is what the God concept boils down to for most people) does not require the obliteration of those who don't hold to your belief. As far as I am aware there are only 2 religions that have the doctrinal requirement of universal conversion: Christianity and Islam. There are currently dozens of other religious traditions being practiced by people (and there have been many more that are no longer practiced) that simply do not have the problematic histories that these 2 religions have. Belief in God has no inherent connection to violence. What makes *any* ideology violent is the notion that there can be only one right belief and everyone has to adopt it. It is intolerance and egotism that lead to violence.
Den Ver 2 years ago (edited)
Lyone Fein: I like the last sentence you wrote about intolerance and egotism leading to violence -- I would add Ignorance to that list. It would seem that throughout history, when these are combined with religion, human suffering isn't just possible, it's probable. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It's not just Christianity and Islam that have problematic histories. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . https://www.science.org --> Feeding the gods: Hundreds of skulls reveal massive scale of human sacrifice in Aztec capital . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Japanese Shinto religion held the Emperor to be the direct descendant of the sun goddess Amaterasu. 85 years ago, the people who revered this Japanese God caused tremendous suffering. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . History reveals religious PERSECUTION of the 'other' is independent of the "universal conversion requirement" you mention.
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Isaac Harvey 2 years ago (edited)
If only the threat of eternal punishment holds you back from being a bad person, you are still a bad person.
Mistiekim 2 years ago
I don’t know how spreading the word of God turned into killing in his name. Or why forcing someone to “believe” is something a person thinks God wants. Even Christians themselves can’t agree on a single interpretation of the religion. The Lutherans broke away from the Catholic Church. So did the Mormons, Baptists, Methodists, etc. Then there is the Jewish faith. If each sect thought their way was the right way to worship God and wanted to wipe out the other sects with violence, that would only be about power. Not faith like they claim to have.
Andrewsarchus42 2 years ago (edited)
As a Jew, the whole “you shall not worship any other gods except me” is only required of Jews (and Christians and Muslims). If you aren’t Jewish, then it’s perfectly fine if you worship other gods instead!
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Kathryn Baylis 2 years ago (edited)
“Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise... surprise and fear... fear and surprise... Our two weapons are fear and surprise... and ruthless efficiency.... Our three weapons are fear, and surprise, and ruthless efficiency... and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope... Our four... no... Amongst our weapons... Amongst our weaponry... are such elements as fear, surprise... I'll come in again.” (All joking aside, the long history of persecution in the name of religion—-basically people totally f*****g up a good basic set of rules for living around other people to gain power, make money, get back at people they don’t like, etc, etc, etc—-is what completely turned me off organized religion. My Catholic ancestors (including 3 of my grandparents) would be appalled, and probably have put me on the rack until I converted. My Protestant ancestors (from the one grandfather’s side—-the lone Methodist in the Catholic woodpile) would also be appalled but probably have foregone torture to just burn me as a witch.
Anne 2 years ago
Gods and religions were thought up to explain life questions and natural events. Religious books contain a lot of good social rules (don't kill, don't steal) - but have been amended too much to help the ideas and cunning ways of - mostly men - to suppress others and get rich. We have scientific explanations now. The gods and religions may leave the public now. (Y'all keep doing in private whatever you want to though)
BoredPandaSucks 2 years ago
It's is the fact that so many believe that without God commanding you that killing someone, or stealing their s**t is a bad idea, then we'd all be homicidal miscreants that is a big slice of the problem.
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gotham-panda 2 years ago (edited)
If your god tells you to kill/torture/violently convert the unbelievers, your god (and his representatives) is a selfish, sadistic, tyrant and not worthy of anyone's worship in the first place. The problem with the "Big Three" is that there are millions upon millions of modern humans that are more ethical than the entity in their ancient books. When other humans display more ethics than your church/mosque/synagogue and the deity you claim is "all good" and "all merciful", and you STILL can't see that - you are a brainwashed minion of the organization. Any religion that encourages you to inflict ANY harm (physical/emotional/mental) on those who don't believe as you do to "save their souls", doesn't love humanity. They love POWER.
Andrewsarchus42 2 years ago
As a Jew, the whole “you shall not worship any other gods except me” is only required of Jews (and Christians and Muslims). If you aren’t Jewish, then it’s perfectly fine if you worship other gods instead! As far as I’m aware (please correct me if I’m wrong), Jews never really felt the need to force others to join our religion. Historically speaking, the whole “use violence to forcibly convert others to our religion” is mostly an issue with Christians and Muslims. Of course, many Muslims and Christians don’t think that’s okay these days. But historically, this was the policy that was followed.
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The_Tired_Artist 2 years ago
last part, lie. first part. I believe its true that a god exists, but I respect you and treat you normal if you dont belive. (yes, i am religious)
Den Ver 2 years ago (edited)
Edgar: You mean the one shown with the white beard and red robe ... the one who knows when you are sleeping and knows when you're awake?
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As a Jew, the whole “you shall not worship any other gods except me” is only required of Jews (and Christians and Muslims). You can’t say you practice the Jewish religion if you don’t worship the Jewish god, after all. (You can be ethnically Jewish but not religiously Jewish, but that’s another thing). If you aren’t Jewish, then it’s perfectly fine if you worship other gods instead. Historically speaking, the whole “use violence to forcibly convert others to our religion” is mostly an issue with Christians and Muslims. Of course, many Muslims and Christians don’t think that’s okay these days. But historically, this was the policy that was followed.
Richard Pennington 2 years ago
Stalin, while still in Georgia, trained as a priest before becoming a revolutionary.
Leo Domitrix 2 years ago
Um.... If there's a god, then that's everyone's god, because by definition a singular deity overseeing All Creation would be everyone's, so it's not really about religion, it's an excuse to kill someone.
#6
Plastic is easily recyclable so long as the public does their duty to sort it and bring it to its designated waste area.
Redditor u/thoughtofeverything told Bored Panda that they tend to rely on the BBC for more unbiased news. "As far as mainstream news sources, I like BBC World News. It helps to have a source outside of the US with no political agenda," they said.
"I’m also fond of the podcast Abe Lincoln’s Top Hat, which I think does a pretty good job of covering US Politics from a more neutral perspective, despite the show’s hosts being pretty liberal themselves."
The OP noted that redditors, as a whole, tend to have "very strong opinions about things," which is probably why the thread went viral in the first place. They also added that they'd like to pass on their best wishes to the people of Iran and Ukraine.
#7
Climate change isn't real
Vaccines cause Autism
Trickle down economics
Take your pick, the top is the end of the world as we know it, the second is keeping many diseases around and literally killing millions of people, and the last is what enables the wealthy to continue to exploit the rest of the world.
Den Ver 2 years ago (edited)
There is a political party that should change its logo to either (A). An Ostrich with its head in the sand, or (B). Chicken Little screeching the sky is falling. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (copying the OP's format) --> Take your pick, ... in the top example (climate change), they have their head stuck in the sand and deny easily observable facts; ... in the second (vaccines cause autism/dangerous side effects) -- they are like chicken little spreading misinformation; ... and last (trickle down economics) they are in denial (head in sand) as to the actual effects/failure. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Which Symbol Is Better? . . . . . . . . . .
#8
Sugar isn’t the problem, it’s fats!
Let’s make everything “fat-free” & just triple the sugar content!
Meanwhile, science-savvy Steven, from the Omni Calculator team, told Bored Panda that "if a claim comes from a single source (whether it is an authority figure or not), you have to be quite skeptical."
He said that we have to look for independent sources to back up the claim. However, even then, this might not mean that a specific claim is necessarily true. "Even if there are loads [of independent sources], they may have gotten locked into a 'groupthink' situation, and the claim is actually false. We should never have blind faith in authority figures. There is always a chance they could be wrong."
According to Steven, experimental bias or cherry-picking results are the most common ways that authority figures can mislead others. "Often you just need to look at who funded the research. It's not surprising that (in the past at least) research funded by a maker of cigarettes said that their product was safe," he told Bored Panda.
#10
Corporations should have the same rights as people
General Anaesthesia 2 years ago
I'll believe that when the courts sentence a corporation to death in Texas.
#11
"I have read and agree to the terms of use."
Will Cable 2 years ago
By the time you've read the terms the device is obsolete, no longer supported and you've aged 3 years
#12
The idea we need to keep purchasing new clothes to ‘stay in the trend’.
Lyone Fein 2 years ago
Also the notion that you need to get rid of clothing that you haven't worn in a while. I used to purge my closet once every few years, then I would end up just going out and replacing the exact same white shirt or heavy sweater, etc.
The expert believes that there seems to be a "reasonable balance" between outright skepticism and blind faith in the scientific community right now. "If the public were very skeptical, science would be hindered, and progress slowed. In areas such as healthcare and technology, science is delivering for people and making a difference in their everyday lives," Steven said.
"In the past few decades, [faith in the scientific community] has probably increased. Climate change is now more widely accepted than ever before now that its effects are clear to see. And science has got the world through the recent pandemic with innovative vaccines, anti-viral drugs, and data science." Steven added that the Omni Calculator team recently released a journalist's guide to numbers e-book that might be useful for anyone working with numbers, looking for trusted sources of information, and fact-checking claims.
#14
Getting good grades secures you an easy life.
Saico Hipe 2 years ago
Haha, nope! I got straight As and then dropped out as a teen due to extreme emotional issues. I know kids from my class back in Texas who made *awful* grades in school, but now successfully work as skilled tradespeople (or in one case, own his own landscaping business) and, until recently, made WAY more than myself... And I was always the 'smart kid'! Life is about so much more than grades, even if you're an academic.
#15
“Everyone’s a winner” or “Everyone is special and gets a gold star” mentality. I understand the goal to build up kids, but it makes adult life and real loss so much tougher on them when they’ve always been told they should get everything they ever want and will always win. There’s barely any resilience built with this mentality. Might be explaining this poorly but it’s hard to word without sounding like I want to smash the happiness of children into the ground because I don’t think everyone is a winner and should get a gold star
It’s absolutely horrifying to learn the effects of having added lead to gasoline. Research shows that exposure to leaded gasoline lowered the IQ of around half of the population in the United States. Gas that contains lead was banned in the US only in 1996.
Florida State University and Duke University researchers found that lead exposure during childhood cost Americans an average of 2.6 IQ points each. Those born in the 1960s and 1970s were affected far more than later generations: some Americans lost up to 6 IQ points while others lost more than 7.
In 2022 nearly everyone has access to the internet, so double-checking facts and verifying the reliability of a person or sources should be easy-peasy. Right? Unfortunately, the increased speed of the spread of information and the rise of social media means that it’s not just the truth that moves around lightning-quick—lies and fake news do, as well.
So while it’s easy to scoff at people in the past for ‘naively’ accepting the fact that gasoline had lead in it or that smoking wasn’t addictive or dangerous, the fact of the matter is that conspiracy theories, corporate lies, and hiding health hazards are all part and parcel of life in the current day, too.
#16
Nuclear is more dangerous than continued reliance on fossil fuels.
Bernd Herbert 2 years ago
Well, there is still no solution at all for the millions of tons of nuclear waste in the whole world. I'd say it's pretty irresponsible to have nuclear plants with this very relevant issue
#18
Historically speaking? That the Jews were at fault for how things were after WWI
Just look at the events of the past few years if you need any evidence that some people are ready to believe practically anything and anyone, so long as it conforms to their worldview. The sad reality is that even with easy access to different sources and in-depth analyses and fact-checking, quite a few people don’t do their due diligence and accept whatever they read online. And that keeps false narratives and half-truths spreading.
Media expert Mike Sington previously explained to Bored Panda that media literacy is vital in this day and age. He said that there are various red flags that indicate a claim might be fake. If a claim is outlandish, sounds too good to be true, you haven’t heard it before, and you’ve never even heard of the source sharing the ‘fact,’ then odds are that it’s a lie.
You should do your best to find a couple of other reputable sources that back up any particular claim. Even doing a simple Google search before resharing anything you come across on social media can help slow down the spread of misinformation. And until you find additional evidence or sourcing that validates any ‘fact,’ you should remain skeptical.
"Do this and think before reposting or you may be contributing to the problem. Amplification doesn’t make a claim true or accurate," the media expert told Bored Panda that constant repetition does not turn a lie into the truth. He noted that some trustworthy sources include the Associated Press, Reuters, and The New York Times because they employ fact-checkers.
#19
The 1964 Surgeon General’s report concluded that smoking cigarettes causes death and disease. However, in a 1971 television interview, the president of Philip Morris denied the health risks that pregnant women and their babies face, saying that “It’s true that babies born from women who smoke are smaller, but they are just as healthy as the babies born to women who do not smoke. Some women would prefer to have smaller babies.”
Amanda Rose 2 years ago
Not my mother. Smoking exacerbated her undiagnosed Graves disease and I had to be delivered by emergency C-section five weeks early. Both of us almost died from that whole fiasco.
#20
“Radium paint isn’t poisonous.”
Thousands of watch-dial workers in the US used to apply radium brushes on their tongues to paint numbers on watch dials, and almost all of these workers were women. As these workers were dying due to radiation poising, the companies brought in fake doctors and convinced the victims and their families that they have venereal diseases like Syphilis. As this was mostly affecting women, most were scared to share it with their families for fear of retaliation and abandonment. The suffering endured by these women was extremely awful, their jaws fell off, their bones fractured, their hair was lost, and most lost eyesight until their eventual painful death.
These women were called “Radium Girls”. Eventually many fought back settled lawsuits and brought the entire Radium production industry down, unfortunately, many innocent women lost their lives before this evil industry was brought down.
Source: https://www.britannica.com/story/radium-girls-the-women-who-fought-for-their-lives-in-a-killer-workplace
Mark Howell 2 years ago
Same with match workers in UK (19c). Their bodies absorbed white phosphorus from the production process, which dissolved the jaw bones. If the employer saw any signs of this they were sacked. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phossy_jaw
#21
“Get a vape pen, it will stop you from wanting to smoke” ***does the complete opposite aggravating my addiction***
Meanwhile
***little kid sees it*** Little kid: “It smells like strawberries, I want a vape pen too”
Now you have little kids vaping so much their lung could be worse than mine…
#22
That humans have dominion over everything on the planet.
Katie Lutesinger 2 years ago
It's easy to think that until you find yourself alone in the middle of the forest at night with a bear staring at you and licking its chops.
#24
"NFTs are the next big thing"
General Anaesthesia 2 years ago
Yeah right, I have an NFT of a slightly used bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. Nope, tulips will be making a come back. :)
#27
"They" are not "us"
#28
The idea that we are separate and disconnected from each other and our environment.
#30
A specific historical example: In 1843, a man called Hong Xiuquan claimed to be the younger brother of Jesus. This led to him starting the Taiping Rebellion, which caused the deaths of between 20 million and 70 million people.
Then again, he probably believed it, so it might not count as a lie.
What do you think ?
Lyone Fein 2 years ago
1. Manifest Destiny. 2. The White Man's Burden. 3. Male Superiority. 4. Might makes right. 5. If it's natural it's OK. 6. Ignorance is bliss. 7. There is no such thing as human evil.
Dodo 2 years ago
Ignorance *is* bliss - for the ignorant. It just makes the world that much harder for the rest of us.
Load More Replies... Nathaniel 2 years ago
There is a manic downvoter on this site again, downvoting for no good reason, I am giving upvotes where I can.
Vincent Philippart 2 years ago
The apex fallacy: if some members of an arbitrary group are rich and powerful, all benefit from and are responsible for it (cf. jews, tutsi, men, americans...) This is just a recipe for hate.
Denny Plowman 1 year ago
Re #29 The man who came up with putting lead in petrol went on to putting CFCs in fridges, destroying the ozone layer. Most destructive man in history?
James Doe 2 years ago
Unfortunately there are some lies on here as well (actual truths, some ranking very high). They are lazy lies as I call them. The last 50k years of evolution cant be undone in a couple of centuries, we are "programmed" to save energy and be lazy, even if it means lying to ourselves. Two examples: cooprations responsible for pollution, good grades & success, recycling,.. reasons why they are (at least partial) truths to be found in the comments below them
Lyone Fein 2 years ago
1. Manifest Destiny. 2. The White Man's Burden. 3. Male Superiority. 4. Might makes right. 5. If it's natural it's OK. 6. Ignorance is bliss. 7. There is no such thing as human evil.
Dodo 2 years ago
Ignorance *is* bliss - for the ignorant. It just makes the world that much harder for the rest of us.
Load More Replies... Nathaniel 2 years ago
There is a manic downvoter on this site again, downvoting for no good reason, I am giving upvotes where I can.
Vincent Philippart 2 years ago
The apex fallacy: if some members of an arbitrary group are rich and powerful, all benefit from and are responsible for it (cf. jews, tutsi, men, americans...) This is just a recipe for hate.
Denny Plowman 1 year ago
Re #29 The man who came up with putting lead in petrol went on to putting CFCs in fridges, destroying the ozone layer. Most destructive man in history?
James Doe 2 years ago
Unfortunately there are some lies on here as well (actual truths, some ranking very high). They are lazy lies as I call them. The last 50k years of evolution cant be undone in a couple of centuries, we are "programmed" to save energy and be lazy, even if it means lying to ourselves. Two examples: cooprations responsible for pollution, good grades & success, recycling,.. reasons why they are (at least partial) truths to be found in the comments below them
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