Dating Advice To Younger Son Accidentally Leads To Eldest’s Breakup As The GF Realized Her Worth
Interview With ExpertLove isn’t always easy, no matter how much we wish it were. So when someone shares a few hard-earned lessons on relationships, it’s worth paying attention.
This Redditor was doing just that—giving his youngest son some dating advice when the topic came up. His eldest son and his girlfriend happened to be in the room, overhearing the conversation. And as it turned out, the words hit harder than expected. The girlfriend listened, took it all in, and realized… her boyfriend wasn’t measuring up. So, she dumped him.
Talk about an unexpected plot twist. Read the full story below.
The man was sharing some valuable dating advice with his youngest son
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But what he didn’t expect was for it to be the reason his oldest son’s relationship fell apart
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Among parents with young adult children, a third of dads feel less connected to their kids than they’d like
You might not agree with every piece of advice OP shared, but one thing is clear—he’s an involved dad who cares about his kids. And that’s something many fathers struggle with, especially as their children grow up.
According to the Pew Research Center, while most parents of young adults (ages 18-34) feel they’re as involved in their child’s life as they’d like to be, dads are more likely than moms to feel disconnected.
Only 63% of fathers say they’re as engaged as they want to be, whereas 70% of mothers feel the same. Meanwhile, a third of dads (33%) wish they were more involved, but for moms, that number is just 22%.
This gap shows up in how often parents stay in touch with their kids. 63% of dads text with their young adult child at least a few times a week, compared to 81% of moms. The difference is even starker with daily messages—only 19% of dads text their child every day, while 40% of moms do.
Phone and video calls follow a similar pattern. 46% of dads talk to their child multiple times a week, while 61% of moms keep up that level of communication. And when it comes to in-person visits, 27% of dads see their child a few times a week, compared to 35% of moms.
Counselor shares expert advice on how dads can strengthen their relationship with their kids
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For many fathers, the real challenge is figuring out how to build and maintain a close bond with their kids. Some may hesitate out of fear of not fitting traditional gender norms, while others worry about losing authority. But Dr. Rachel Glik, a licensed professional counselor, believes that there are ways dads can strengthen their connection with their children, no matter their age.
First, understand your value as a father. “No matter what life stage your children have reached, you are their father for a reason, and there is no one else in the world who can fill your shoes to help your child reach his or her full potential,” says Glik. In other words, don’t underestimate the role you play in their lives.
Make time for one-on-one moments. No matter how old your kids are, spending quality time together matters. And that doesn’t have to mean deep heart-to-hearts, it can be as simple as grabbing a bite to eat or doing an activity together. “I remember when my own father started asking me to lunch when I was in my forties,” Glik shares. “The talks we had at Whole Foods took our relationship to a whole new level.”
Be real and vulnerable. Sharing personal stories, whether about past struggles or funny mishaps, makes it easier for your child to relate to you and feel comfortable being themselves around you.
Show interest in what they love. “When kids feel that you value what they value, this removes barriers and helps them feel connected,” Glik explains. “Entering their world, sharing more together—then they are more inclined to see you as a go-to when they have news, struggles, and experiences to share.”
And finally, own up to your mistakes. Nobody’s perfect, including parents. “The strongest men I know are comfortable enough with themselves that they can own their shortcomings and let go of the ego’s need to be right,” says Glik.
How should parents approach disagreements with older children?
Bored Panda reached out to family psychotherapist Zara Kadir for expert advice on the topic.
“The answer is to be flexible, open and collaborative,” Kadir told us. “Teenagers are in the process of “individuating” which means finding their identity outside of their nuclear family. They are likely to be exploring who they are and find this in their peers, they find people who are an external reflection of who they feel they are and this might be questioning their parents beliefs and ideals.”
If you want your teen to come to you with important questions instead of fearing your response, then you need to start treating them as you’d like to be treated and respecting their growing autonomy, Kadir explained.
“Instead of telling them what to do or expecting them to do things as you do, be curious,” she encouraged. “For example, if you teenager has a messy room, instead of telling them to tidy it, ask something like “I’ve noticed your room is a bit messier than I’d like it to be and I wondered how you feel? Does it bother you? What are the barriers to you keeping it organised and how can I help?””
You need to show your flexible so in this scenario, if your teen doesn’t like hanging and folding ask them if storage baskets would work better for them, would they like help or rather do it alone? This shows a willingness to be flexible, it’s their bedroom and supporting them in how they feel comfortable will create a much closer relationship than one that’s dictatorial.
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I like the fact that the dad is STILL analysing his actions, looking at how he could have done better, admitting there were things he could improve on. THAT is the example that both sons should be paying attention to. Listening to advice is good, but ONLY if you have the ability to self reflect with an open mind and confidence to admit mistakes without self hate, and admit when you've done well, without arrogance.
Seems like a great dad, the sort that is constantly evaluating and trying to improve. He sounds like he takes his own advice. I like him.
Load More Replies...Definitely respect is vital, but the advice he was giving is for a more established relationship, where everyone is clearly what they want and what they like. Early in a relationship a lot of those habits would feel smothering and for the sake of show. It has to unfold on its own and as each person is comfortable. Early in my current relationship, I would have been really uncomfortable with that level of affection, and if you're a teen a lot of that would happen in public spaces - conversations, saying goodbye etc. Respect means respecting boundaries and finding out where they are, when they change etc. This list of what to do sounds like youngest is a "nice guy" in the making. If I tell her I love her constantly and apologize even when I'm right, that makes me a good boyfriend/partner. While good advice for an established older couple, it's just creepy, pushy advice for a teen.
How totally not surprising that the young guy who couldn't treat his girlfriend with respect then blamed someone else for his s**t. Honestly, boy, you need your daddy to tell you to respect someone's feelings? If you're that immature you shouldn't date yet. Wait until you've grown to the emotional age of 15.
First time I've ever heard anyone else say the same thing that I tell people: that the foundation of a relationship is not love or communication, it's respect. And I tell them to imagine the person they respect the most in the world (a mentor, a parent or grandparent), and whatever they would not do or say to that person, do not do or say to your partner. Love is built on respect, not the other way around. And btw, trust, which is key, is an outgrowth of being treated with respect.
Apologize even when you're right is deeply troubling. If you're right or wrong you don't need to apologize, only if you BEHAVE badly. Disagreeing is normal, and gaslighting someone into thinking you agree with them is weird at best. But there's no reason to apologize if you haven't been a d**k about it. Much better advice is don't act like a d**k, it isn't justified even if your point is valid. Children pattern after what they seeover time much more than what you say to them once. Odds are if older brother is a s****y bf, he learned it from his own parents, chasing a dynamic that isn't healthy.
And apologies are meaningless without a plan to change behavior. So if you don’t think you did anything wrong, you are likely making an empty apology. It’s more important to understand why the person reacted the way they did. Sometimes, the reaction is because of something the partner did. But sometimes, it’s based on something from the past that triggered an over-reaction. If you just always apologize, you never have the deeper conversation.
Load More Replies...Could be a learning experience for the older son. The father seems like he's trying to improve himself and trying to pass on his lessons to his kids. The older son needs to realize that he might have done some stuff wrong and learn from it. Better to do it when one is young instead of going through two divorces wondering what the heck went wrong. (That last bit is me, btw. I screwed up in a lot of ways, but I'm still trying to do better. At least the cat loves me, lol.)
I'm sorry but the son is TOO LAZY to post it himself and asked his dad to do it, and the fact that the dad ACTUALLY DID?? Op, by your own logic, you fail your son on so many level. Stop thinking you are at fault and stop doing his bidding! Your son needs to take accountability!
Yeah it's clear that the oldest son is more than a bit spoiled. He's spoiled rotten and has gotten a horrible attitude because of it.
Load More Replies...OP did not mess up. My parents worked hard, i did not miss anything exept parents. They taught me absolutly nothing in life. Guess they realised & my little sister (who i love) is a smart a*s in a good way. I grew up with no social skills & anxiety to this day, at 51 yrs old (the anxiety). I'm making d**n sure i teach my daughter. Thank god Sis took care of things when the first period came...
I like the fact that the dad is STILL analysing his actions, looking at how he could have done better, admitting there were things he could improve on. THAT is the example that both sons should be paying attention to. Listening to advice is good, but ONLY if you have the ability to self reflect with an open mind and confidence to admit mistakes without self hate, and admit when you've done well, without arrogance.
Seems like a great dad, the sort that is constantly evaluating and trying to improve. He sounds like he takes his own advice. I like him.
Load More Replies...Definitely respect is vital, but the advice he was giving is for a more established relationship, where everyone is clearly what they want and what they like. Early in a relationship a lot of those habits would feel smothering and for the sake of show. It has to unfold on its own and as each person is comfortable. Early in my current relationship, I would have been really uncomfortable with that level of affection, and if you're a teen a lot of that would happen in public spaces - conversations, saying goodbye etc. Respect means respecting boundaries and finding out where they are, when they change etc. This list of what to do sounds like youngest is a "nice guy" in the making. If I tell her I love her constantly and apologize even when I'm right, that makes me a good boyfriend/partner. While good advice for an established older couple, it's just creepy, pushy advice for a teen.
How totally not surprising that the young guy who couldn't treat his girlfriend with respect then blamed someone else for his s**t. Honestly, boy, you need your daddy to tell you to respect someone's feelings? If you're that immature you shouldn't date yet. Wait until you've grown to the emotional age of 15.
First time I've ever heard anyone else say the same thing that I tell people: that the foundation of a relationship is not love or communication, it's respect. And I tell them to imagine the person they respect the most in the world (a mentor, a parent or grandparent), and whatever they would not do or say to that person, do not do or say to your partner. Love is built on respect, not the other way around. And btw, trust, which is key, is an outgrowth of being treated with respect.
Apologize even when you're right is deeply troubling. If you're right or wrong you don't need to apologize, only if you BEHAVE badly. Disagreeing is normal, and gaslighting someone into thinking you agree with them is weird at best. But there's no reason to apologize if you haven't been a d**k about it. Much better advice is don't act like a d**k, it isn't justified even if your point is valid. Children pattern after what they seeover time much more than what you say to them once. Odds are if older brother is a s****y bf, he learned it from his own parents, chasing a dynamic that isn't healthy.
And apologies are meaningless without a plan to change behavior. So if you don’t think you did anything wrong, you are likely making an empty apology. It’s more important to understand why the person reacted the way they did. Sometimes, the reaction is because of something the partner did. But sometimes, it’s based on something from the past that triggered an over-reaction. If you just always apologize, you never have the deeper conversation.
Load More Replies...Could be a learning experience for the older son. The father seems like he's trying to improve himself and trying to pass on his lessons to his kids. The older son needs to realize that he might have done some stuff wrong and learn from it. Better to do it when one is young instead of going through two divorces wondering what the heck went wrong. (That last bit is me, btw. I screwed up in a lot of ways, but I'm still trying to do better. At least the cat loves me, lol.)
I'm sorry but the son is TOO LAZY to post it himself and asked his dad to do it, and the fact that the dad ACTUALLY DID?? Op, by your own logic, you fail your son on so many level. Stop thinking you are at fault and stop doing his bidding! Your son needs to take accountability!
Yeah it's clear that the oldest son is more than a bit spoiled. He's spoiled rotten and has gotten a horrible attitude because of it.
Load More Replies...OP did not mess up. My parents worked hard, i did not miss anything exept parents. They taught me absolutly nothing in life. Guess they realised & my little sister (who i love) is a smart a*s in a good way. I grew up with no social skills & anxiety to this day, at 51 yrs old (the anxiety). I'm making d**n sure i teach my daughter. Thank god Sis took care of things when the first period came...


































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