Yeah my advice for guys would be that if she says "no" leave it at that because she's either a) not interested (this is most of the time) or b) playing childish games that no one has time for.

I think that both men and women have learned that from romantic comedies. Don't get me wrong, I like me a nice rom-com, but this person wants exactly the stalkerish behaviour that was somehow romanticised by them.

True and thanks for pointing it out. I had a problem with such a guy when no didn't mean no to him, because you know he was a good catch and I am just a woman who doesn't know what she wants. I am really uncomfortable when he is around, sometimes watches me, we work in the same company (thank God for we in different dept.) and even though he stopped contacting me, he still talks about me with his co-workers and he hopes I will change my mind if he waits a little longer to ask me out again. It's a year since he asked me for the first time.

As a guy: I litterally never thought that. Most boys/men are very simple: No means No, Yes means Yes, Pizza means Pizza and Ice cream means Ice cream. So don't go barking mad when you say you want pizza but in reality you like to have ice cream but you get pizza because that's what you ordered.

That messaging is PART of the reason they may act that way...some are just entitled and do not like getting their way. I agree with your premise...but it comes dangerously close to blaming women for their own harassment...when it should be blamed on the ones doing the harassing.

Can I upvote this twice?

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I'm glad that you understand the meaning of "no". I'm sure anybody would be delighted to have you 🙂

@Sowieso: Yes! Yes! Yes!....please unlearn the “try harder” way of thinking (that’s for finishing up your food at ayce establishments) You / they’re not easy just because they accepted the date request without someone having to try multiple times.

What you say is true. But I think the cure to this problem is to stop generalising. Just because one "girl" likes or hates this or that, it doesn't make the whole female part of the world population like or hate the same things. Same is true for males. So, whenever we approach a person, please, let's view them as a single individual, as a self, not as merely a fraction of a group of people with some imaginary characteristics we sort into some fictive boxes in our heads.

Exactly, so true.

She would definitely say yes in a matter of seconds if the guy was handsome but yes, you are right.

This! Exactly!

Yeah, it's about f*****g time we heard from some women who take responsibility for themselves and their treatment. Good on you for saying it as it is. And even as say so I'm reminded Xmas. I don't get Xmas. Why is Xmas special. You want to give someone a gift, then give them a gift. You want to celebrate, then celebrate. Xmas should be every day. Same as this. It shouldn't seem so special that it needs to be congratulated or stated. But it is.

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Ladies. That's on you. You brought that up onto yourself. Your doing and your fault. For the most of the guys means no just no. And there is no harder trying. We move on. Many fish in the sea. Stupid game like 'hard to get' is for immature girls. Not women. All who play like that are on the same level as teenagers. Mature women say what they want.

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Yeah, because you know women thought this up. What about the guys who think a girl who asks them out is asking for it or worse?

he respects himself and knows that no means no.

Theres "hard to get" in a flirting situation. And theres hard to get were you blow the guy off and expect him to try again. Different things

No will always mean no when you are talking to a mature human being. Women like her have the brain power and the maturity of a green pea.

“This story makes my sexism okay!” - Sum Guy

By always taking no for an answer, you will avoid manipulative game players. Be grateful

Well, most women just want you to know that "no means no," but there ARE women out there who want to play hard to get. It's just that with those people, don't waste your time because you won't be able to trust them to be upfront and honest with you.

"they" isn't true. Idk what the f**k is wrong with this lady, but for most omen, no means no. I personally hate having to say it more than once.