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What does it mean to be a "real" man? Well, masculinity is one of those topics everyone has an opinion on, as gender norms remain a delicate subject that tends to spark heated debates online. And even though public attitudes are becoming more accepting in many ways, stereotypical patterns of masculine behavior are still deeply rooted in our society — according to the age-old cliché of the masculine guy, men are expected to be strong, brave, and dominant.

But in reality, when people are telling everyone that a macho man doesn't cry, takes risks, makes money, fears nothing, and — heaven forbid! — never shows any signs of emotional vulnerability, it can spark some pretty warped ideas about manhood.

Thanks to one illuminating corner of Twitter called 'Hot Masculinity Takes,' we get to see a galore of absurd cases when this happens online. "Welcome to the Alpha Zone," says the account’s description, and you already know it’s gonna be a wild ride. So continue scrolling to check out the absolutely ridiculous opinions about men on the Internet, and don’t miss the chat we had about masculinity with licensed clinical psychologist Dr. Jesse Matthews right below.

Psst! After you’re done with this list, more madness awaits in Part 1 of this feature right here.

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I wanna punch the idiot who wrote this put down. And I’m an oh-so-estrogenic woman. My crushing lack of testosterone must be making me so irrational to say something like this. Isn’t it?🙄😤😡 Who is this misogynistic weirdo, to think he can be rude to the ladies and gentlemen like that? Bet he’s an insecure neckbeard.

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It’s hard to avoid encountering the term toxic masculinity these days. But as the person behind the account, who preferred to stay anonymous, told my colleague Rokas in a previous interview, this social media project is not purely about that. The philosophy of the page is to post the takes and let people make their own conclusions. "I do draw a lot from the manosphere but a lot of the takes are from women speaking about men, and I include left-wing hot takes too," the creator added.

A brief scroll through the list proves that harmful stereotypes about what it means to be a man are abundant in today’s society. But what exactly urges people to share their absurd statements without any second thought? And how can these ideas affect men seeking out their masculine identity?

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To gain more insight on the topic from an expert, we reached out to Dr. Jesse Matthews, Psy.D., a licensed clinical psychologist based in Chester Springs, PA. According to him, ideas about masculinity have become quite polarized in our society.

"As masculinity has moved away from the 'manly man' or 'tough guy' definitions, many people have not only clung to these stereotypes, but they have made them more extreme," Dr. Matthews told Bored Panda. This usually stems from people rejecting the changing views, and "social media in particular creates echo chambers for this, with various influencers carrying the flags for those who identify with their views."

While we all bear different perspectives on the world around us, masculinity especially can be a very deep rabbit hole with a variety of different viewpoints. But Dr. Matthews raised an important question: why do these ideas matter so much to people?

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"Obviously, it’s part of life for any guy or anyone who identifies with masculinity, but the obsession with being a 'real man' is more based in insecurity. The person essentially needs to ensure that they present a masculine enough identity to avoid judgment or being called out as not masculine by other guys," the psychologist explained.

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Men who are insecure about their manliness exhibit behavior that is often exaggerated and even caricature-like. But Dr. Matthews says there’s also irony at play here. "Many of these individuals would tell you that being a real man means just doing your thing and not caring about what anyone thinks about it. However, one can’t simultaneously obsess over portraying an ultramasculine image, yet claim to be unconcerned about judgment. It just doesn’t compute."

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Hypermasculinity — or toxic masculinity as it’s usually called — is also based on the false belief that masculinity needs to be saved, Dr. Matthews argued. "In the same way that some people seem to be afraid that racism or homophobia might one day die out. So they embrace stereotypes, or how they think things 'should' be or were in 'the good old days.'"

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, so a man drinking a fruity drink sounds like a great way to filter out super shallow people. Drink up men, the fruity drinks are the best.

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But putting men (half of the world’s population!) in a box can seriously harm their well-being. "It’s limiting at best, and at worst it leads people to play into these stereotypes." For example, hypermasculinity often makes people act in ways "that are sexist or homophobic, or at least not challenging others on this kind of behavior."

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"It also has the power to create toxic environments, uncomfortable for women or men viewed as not masculine, and of course to lead to situations involving sexual assault," Dr. Matthews continued. "As well, if these men carry on these thoughts and behaviors through adulthood, they may pass them down to their children or other young people they come into contact with, like kids they are teaching, coaching, and so on."

According to the American Psychological Association (APA), instilling elements of traditional masculinity into men and boys can be psychologically harmful, as it has been shown to limit their development, constrain their behavior, and result in gender role conflict. What’s more, it can negatively influence their mental and physical health.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This screams red flag all over. Anyone under that height is usually underage (with the exception of naturally petite women).

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And men wonder why we women have a tendency to come off as cold, closed-off, and wary with men we dont know. Obviously, even the men we DO think we know can be a danger to us.

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For men who try to seek out their identity and find a healthy relationship with their inner guy, these societal pressures and expectations can be especially burdensome. "It can be hard for people to stand out or to be seen as going against those around them. For example, a male raised in a family or in a community with traditional masculine stereotypes may find it hard to explore or adopt a less stereotyped identity," Dr. Matthews said, adding the person is likely to be criticized, punished, or excluded for it.

Unfortunately, most people who are raised in stereotyped environments tend to internalize those behavior patterns. Psychologist Matthews explained this happens because they don’t know anything else and it feels right to them, or they feel pressure to fit in.

"This can mean demonstrating extreme or toxic masculinity, as not only could one fit in that way, but he could be praised or more highly valued in the group for it." And, alarmingly, "in places like prisons where this applies, it could actually help you to survive."

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only the most insecure men use words like alpha and beta males. Do they not realize how it makes them sound?

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Extreme views like the painfully ridiculous ones featured on 'Hot Masculinity Takes' are rarely a positive thing. But as the modern world now teaches us, the subject matter is much less black-and-white.

"Masculinity is not simply the opposite of femininity, just as it is not synonymous with heterosexuality," Dr. Matthews noted. "Many people today see being masculine as being calm and controlled vs angry and reactive, being a good problem solver rather than one who relies on brute force to solve everything, or standing up for other people or what’s right vs trying to control or overpower others."

What people see as healthy masculinity may differ, but generally, we can all foster it by not judging other people. "This means not being worried about what other men are doing and giving people the space to be themselves," Dr. Matthews added. "We can all do what we want to do and believe what we want to believe. Masculinity isn’t going anywhere, so people don’t need to try to be the protectors of it or to act in stereotyped ways to let people know they exist."

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mmm, yes, let's never stop living with perpetual brutality, chaos, and death.

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High blood pressure, obesity, high blood sugar, malnutrition, but I can't think of any real reasons.

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Many men in Dr. Matthews’s practice have never gone to therapy before, and some wouldn't even be expected to be found in a psychologist’s office at first glance. But they are sure glad they did. "This idea of what it really means to be a man and the positive and negative ways in which they have lived this is a frequent topic of conversation."

"I would encourage anyone concerned with issues of identity, including ideas about masculinity, to start reflecting on it in some kind of organized way. Don’t just watch videos by your favorite IG or Tik Tok influencers, but start journaling, reading books, or going and seeing a therapist. It really can change your life," Dr. Matthews concluded.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Picturing this guy putting together flat-pack furniture without instructions ('cause those are for girls) and when his shelf turns into a table, he just throws it through the wall. Because bro

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BREAKING NEWS: WORK COLLEAGUES OFTEN ENGAGE AS FRIENDS WITH EACH OTHER. MORE ON THIS AT 11.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’ve seen anime dude with abs that no human could have with surgery. I hate to pick the low fruit but has this guy ever seen dragon ball z?

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Lucas
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Looks at the past leaders of the UK tory party... definitely not a conservative look.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dunno. A guy with his waxxed tits out doesn't really scream MASCULINE to me, but honestly, I don't even really care

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, I hate being cold, so... I think me and leftist anime boy with the awesome Hoodie would hit it off great. Other guy... *squints* those trees look bare. Its probably winter or at least cold. He's crazy. And will probably end up with hypothermia.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've seen enough videos of conservative rallies and events but there was never any guy looking like the one in that picture

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as far as I can tell, only the one on the right has breast implants.

Jenny Shmurak
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So a real man is one that is obsessed with his appearance and shaves his chest?

Helena
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How are guys not getting that just trying to be a good human does not make you less of a man. It makes you more of a man.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OMG, one is a CARTOON and the other 'conservative' look is a real guy half clothed. Am I missing something here?!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Buff, hairless, and one nipple showing...the one on the right is the very definition of the gay male stereotype...lol.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Extreme masculinity is not even remotely attractive to me. I would take the funny, dorky looking guy 99% of the time. But I’m also not straight so maybe not the best judge

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Love all these homo-erotic pix. Whoever runs this account just wants a male audience looking at gay pix he posts.

Mary Rogers
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's pretty ironic to use the picture on the right as a standard of masculinity because only a few decades ago shaving one's chest would be considered "gay." *Real* men had chest hair. But it just goes to show how arbitrary all these standards really are, because they change over time.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Someone is turned on by the dude on the right And, that's far from a conservative look. I mean there is no neckbead, no camo, and not a hint of beer belly?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the boy on the left with the pink sweater is my dream guy <333 the guy with the open blue shirt, not so much

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

*Hmmph* neither of them are real alpha chad males, where's the shaved head, huge beard, big chest hair? hMm? This is obviously a leftist ploy to make real chads extinct and convert us all to beta gays.

Gypsy Lee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So they choose an innocent pic of an Anime and a sexy beef hunk?... the closet is strong with this one.

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So... They want "manly men" that shave their chests, use moisturiser (possibly make up) and lots of product in their hair... Got it.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sadly I know a few reddits where this mindframe is verrrrry much real... Its like a different f*****g world

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who says Shirtless Wonder there doesn't like poetry, pink, and long walks on the beach at sunset?

Kitty Jordan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

10 to 1 the guy on the right waxes his chest. I wonder how manly they think that is?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't turn down some awesome Isekai cheat powers and the bevy of gorgeous ladies that always seem to be attracted to that person.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Screw the post, I'm more worried about how those hoodie strings are placed/

Box Knight
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Screw the post, I'm more concerned about how those hoodie strings are placed.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The one on the right seriously looks like the thumbnail for a gay pornstar video. :D

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh no, my rational mindset has turned me into a cartoon character.

Hugh Crawford
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Cause sculpted abs, hairless chest, product in your hair, and a fashion sense, are what the right is all about

tom tucker
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's called evolution. what's trending in sexual selection? looking anime. who's getting laid with increasing frequency? Naruto. that's why male cardinals are so pretty. yes I said pretty and yes you can suck my DragonBall z's

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am fairly certain the man on the right would be right at home in gay adult film. Which just highlights how stupid this "culture war" over looks is. Just let people dress how they wanna dress 🤦🏻‍♀️

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, because hair that took longer than my wedding look and hairless chest is so conservatively manly. With a *baby* blue shirt. Lol

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And what, exactly, is gained by “making men feminine”? None of these dopes with their idiotic opinions ever explains the GOAL of these dumb suppositions.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Then why do so many people find feminine men more attractive? I’m biased because I’m a lesbian, but the point still stands

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m pretty sure the guy on the right is an actor and model who’s also a proud leftist. I cannot recall his name presently, but am sure his sex and gender have nothing to do with whether he is a left or right-winger….The anime character also appears to be a child. I’m a conservative woman, by the way, and assure you people like the OP do *not* speak for most conservatives, in my experience. He sure doesn’t speak for me!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The one on the left is a *cartoon* and the one on the right is probably gay.

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I wanna stay home in my comfy-@ss hoodie binging tv, so lemme be the guy on the left

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I wish more men were feminine. And btw being feminine DOES NOT mean weak. I'm androgynous, I've never met a guy stronger than myself. I take a lot of pride on my strength.

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Nice to know that an open shirt and bare chest are a conservative look.

Mary Kelly
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the one on the left is less likely to kill me if i laugh at him...so, i'm gonna say the left

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Yea what's more masculine then having bigger breasts then some females out there

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I’d much rather see a guy in a hoodie than with his shirt open. The shirt jacket look is just weird.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Does the guy who posted this look anything like the one on the right? Does he have the thinnest shed of a chance of ever doing so? (He seems to like looking at the one on the right, but we won't go there.)

Yugan Talovich
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is the conservative ideal of a real he-man always someone who looks like he left the closet years ago?

Bobby
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rights shirt is open. That's not very conservative at all

Terran
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DO YOU WANT TO BE AN ANIME CHARACTER OR A HUMAN BEING?! Ummh... what?

VonBlade
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If most of these posts define what a masculine man is and how he thinks, then yes, bring on the feminized anime boys post haste so we can reduce the global toxicity rating.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The one on the left looks a bit like Tim Henson from Polyphia. He and the rest of the band are legends

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men with muscles often have Littlefield respect or confidence. They use working out as a way to cope with life. If your entire life is based on what you look like, you are in for a massive disappointment later in life When your looks and muscles are no longer!

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Are you a biologist? If not you probably don't know what a "man". I heard that from some weekass judge somewhere..... hmmm, what side is she on?... Certainly NOT right side. Haha

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What does this even mean? Are you saying we all have to be biologists to recognize a penis? What are you? Fix your grammar and clarity if you want to unload judgmental s**t all over us.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Say you're insecure about your masculinity without saying you're insecure about your masculinity

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

James Butler is a septic tank guy on TikTok and YouTube who has a 'manly' job, but also decent general advice about being a boss of a company. It's not all dancing and "challenges" on TikTok.

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Anyone else think that the whole alpha, beta, sigma whatever is just dude bro astrology?

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He is a man. He says men are child molestors. I don’t like where this is going.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Chechnya? As in the Chechen Republic, one of Russian republics? One of the most dangerous places in Russia for LGBTQ+ people? Seriously?

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why do think you have to be powerful to have worth? Could it be, idk, the patriarchy?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

God, I wish people would seriously take five minutes out of their day to even learn what GMOs ARE.

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Let me do the experiment. (Crosses legs. Uncrosses legs. Checks inside pants. Yep, balls still there.) You don't really understand male anatomy, do you, dear?

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Or more likely to develop prostate cancer later in life; but you do you bruh 😑

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Probably the most offensive, inaccurate thread of opinions I have ever seen in my life. Underneath the endless, unbridled rage, I'm kind of impressed by their complete lack of recognition for their privilege.

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American Football players wear padding. Those wusses should try rugby. 😛

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Yeah. REAL men don't have disabilities, congenital illnesses or defects, or prior conditions or accidents that could make them vulnerable to Covid if they're under 65!!! Obviously!!! (/s in case it wasn't clear XD )

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My "father" was toxic like that, and I was delighted to take my husband's name to help distance from it. It's not always 'weak' or 'submissive' reasons a woman will take a husband's name.

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In my experience, if you give a man a smartphone, he will find funny tiktoks to show you, a handful of fun games, and so much porn.

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I cannot wait for all these Alpha Male to become extinct and for Mentally healthy stable men and women to rule the world.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What makes him think he's even worthy? Men that won't date single mums are terrified of being seen as weak and useless because single mums are independent and strong.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No man deserves that? No man deserves that?!! So all men are just s**t, and must be punished by having to be a breadwinner?

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Lakota Wolf
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah!! REAL men don't need to bond with their newborn babies or help care for them directly in ANY way!!! /s

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