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Curious minds tend to be interested in various things, from plants and animals to laws of physics and ballet, among others. That’s why seeing netizens delve deeper into another random topic nowadays is becoming far less surprising, yet not less interesting.

Take the discussion started by ‘sceneybeanie’, for example. The user asked members of the ‘Ask Reddit’ community about the craziest declassified CIA documents, and apparently, quite a few redditors had something to share. Scroll down to find their answers on the list below—where you will also find Bored Panda’s interview with the OP themselves—and see for yourself what captivates people about such stories.

#1

30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public One CIA operative, who drew up a plan to have packets of extra-large condoms, labelled “small” dropped on USSR. The idea was to lower their morale.

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Libstak
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh somebody was a high School prankster of the year

Tracy Wallick
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, this sounds like a pretty standard military joke

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Rizzo
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The idea came from Winston Churchill. In WW2 the UK rifle barrels needed something to prevent rain draining in and they decided to use condoms. Churchill suggested to label them "small" to demoralize the enemy if they found one. ;)

Lyyyy
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Really, BP? This post is the main picture for the article, and in the picture they censored the word condoms into [rubbers]. Really, come on.

WindySwede
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yet, they have a candid photo of a topless woman on a beach, in another post I saw today..

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Miranda Veracruz de la Joya Cardenal
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ngl, I'm pretty sure it worked, men are probably more insecure about their junk the same way we women are insecure about our whole body. Thanks society ❤️

JayWantsACat
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ironically, Russia pulled a metaphorical equivalent with Trump these past 8 years and this time it actually worked.

Zaach
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that was a joke back when I was in 8th grade (1961)

Svenne O'Lotta
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, you will notice that the USSR doesn't exist anymore and this is definitely the reason

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Josh Dorsett
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The sizes were actually extra large ones labelled as medium

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    #2

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public The pardon of the Japanese who ran Unit 731 in exchange for their findings. They performed countless experiments on live human POW’s. Cutting off limbs to test blood loss, injecting them with diseases and seeing how they progressed when left untreated, vivisection of these same individuals, and other really f*****g disgusting stuff that I don’t have the stomach to type out. You can Google the rest. The US government felt it was more important to have that information in American hands than to let it go to the Russians, or be lost. You’d never be able to conduct those kind of experiments again, and for good reason, so they considered it the lesser of two evils.

    Lookslikeseen , 松岡明芳 Report

    Bookworm
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A not insignificant portion of medical discoveries originated with the Nazis. Not to mention the ex-Nazi rocket scientists who pretty much got the U.S into space after World War II. If terrible people inadvertently discover something that could do some good, it doesn't mean they're any less terrible or that what they do is somehow excusable, but there's no point pretending the information doesn't exist.

    Heffalump
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    Actually, there is. And you'll find that the knowledge obtained from Nazi human experimentation is never referred to or used. The consensus of the scientific community is that if the knowledge was obtained unethically, it should be treated as though it doesn't exist. EDIT: To those that say the knowlege is used: find me a paper referencing it.

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    Zedrapazia
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It becomes quite scary when you look into that topic and find out that a bunch of countries did that. The Nazis with the Jews, the Japanese with Chinese prisoners, the US Americans themselves with the native Americans, and so many more. Humanity can be sickening sometimes

    Jrog
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I kind of agree with this stance. The deal is already done, you can have it gone to waste or save it for future uses that include medical research. They pardoned just one guy, Shiro Ishii, who then was involved in research for developing and countering biological weapons for the USA. After a few years in the USA, Ishii went back to Japan where he opened a free clinic, offering medical testing and treatment to the poor and disenfranchised.

    rullyman
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They should never have been pardoned for their crimes. Take the data and then throw them in prison. So little justice.

    Giraffy Window
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They allowed Nazis over for similar reasons in both Canada and the US. They did awful things, but we're allowed to go free and highly paid because of their research.

    and_a_touch_of_the_’tism
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s difficult in these situations, because the information from incredibly unethical experiments CAN be incredibly valuable. Like the Nazis performed a lot of truly horrifying experiments that are the basis for a lot of things we know today. I am of the opinion that we should use that information, and make sure we remember how it was obtained and honor those who were tortured for it, but it’s a really controversial topic.

    David
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1) This was pre-CIA, and 2) The US also used all the info the Nazis got from their human experiments on Jews like my elderly cousin (he was a teen human experiment in Auschwitz) because the US felt that "well, it was already done, and we have the data", and would explain why so many of the doctors like Menegle were able to escape. But a lot of the Nazi data on Jews were used by the US govt, including NASA late on.

    Nitka Tsar
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds even more gruesome then what our „dear“ Mengele did. And he was very hard to top

    Steve Hall
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Interesting but this is military, not cia. The cia wasn't created until 1947.

    Chantel Atwell
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    oh my GOD - I'd never heard of that... That's awful :-(

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    #3

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public During the 60's the CIA noticed that artists tend to lean towards socialism and communism. They realized the best way to prevent this or discredit these political positions was to make them wealthy so they would be more invested in capitalism. To do this the CIA would anonymously buy modern art pieces no matter how nonsensical for very high prices. This made the otherwise highly niche and difficult to access modern art genre a chique fashionable *and highly profitable* genre and basically prevented prominent members of the art community from turning to socialism or communism by converting them to wealthy members of the upper class. tl;dr the spolied noveau riche avante-garde airhead artist stereotype was literally created by the CIA dumping money into prominent figure's pockets and allowing them to discredit their political activism by becoming self indulgent parodies of themselves.

    Vict0r117 , Metropolitan Museum Report

    Mark
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Makes a twisted sort of sense

    The Original Bruno
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So basically, the CIA spent BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars (and took over the Ford Foundation, and many other foundations whose "philanthropy" added up to tens of billions of dollars) to promote America-hating, communist-leaning artists, and convince the upper classes that such notions were the epitome of cool. The KGB wasn't nearly as successful. This is the same CIA that funded dozens of anti-colonialist revolutions throughout the world. Most of those wound up with communist dictators.

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    Alijandro Asturias
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is that even remotely true? Sounds very unlikely

    UpupaEpops
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would explain why Mark Rothko's "Untitled, 1960" sold for $50 million, while Monet's most expensive variant of the "Waterlilies" series sold for $65 million...

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    Jrog
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is utter BS. The CIA funded artists, true. They did so mostly through partnerships with MoMA and the CCF in Paris (Congress for Cultural Freedom), financing art exhibitions throughout Europe, with the objective of fighting the Soviet's cultural propaganda that painted the Americans as "uncultured", looking for support among the European left (mostly Socialist-oriented, that contrary to what most Americans think is *very* different from Communists). They supported mostly abstract expressionist artists because their style was a sharp breakthrough compared to the dated modernist Russian art scene. The effort was so critical to the Eisenhower administration that Nelson Rockefeller, son of MoMA founder Abby Aldrich Rockefeller and major supporter of abstractism, was made presidential advisor. A few MoMA trustees went on to serve at CIA, and vice versa.

    Jrog
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The result of this effort was to steer major influential figures such as Picasso away from becoming supporters of USSR cultural and political values, and in turn influencing large swaths of the cultural elite to more openly engage with the western cultural sphere.

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    keyboardtek
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is dubious. The super rich who buy up all the art have been buying lousy art for hundreds of years all in the name of material gain and snobbery.

    Svenne O'Lotta
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Please patronize me, government daddy

    David Paterson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not buying that explanation. I can imagine the CIA dropping money into the pockets of prominent figures, and those prominent figures buying art at over-inflated prices. But the purpose would be to give those prominent figures a "get out of jail free" card, the same card played by crime bosses these days - a "reduce my sentence or you'll never see your precious painting again" bargaining chip.

    Steve Hall
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yet, 99% of all artists are still poor.

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    #4

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public The Acoustic Kitty is pretty crazy. They basically put a microphones and radio in a cat and tried to release into the Soviet Embassy to wander around eavesdropping since nobody suspects a wandering cat. 

    92xSaabaru , Ana Sofia Guerreirinho/Flickr (not the actual photo) Report

    Bookworm
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    IIRC, they released the first cat and it was immediately squished by a passing vehicle, and that was the end of that. RIP Spy Kitty

    rorschach-penguin
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's an urban legend. In reality, as everyone who owns a cat knows, cats are simply untrainable, and the CIA decided the project wasn't worth the effort.

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    Declassifying historically significant CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) documents has been a significant part of the agency’s effort to be more open and provide more public accountability. The process reportedly started back in the 1980s when the Director of Central Intelligence at that time, William Casey, authorized the declassification of certain documents and established the Historical Review Program.

    Since then, the CIA has declassified numerous documents, including six of the oldest classified records, dating from 1917 and 1918, NPR reports.

    #5

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public The Pentagon Papers (which were leaked, not outright declassified) and the resultant Church Committee Report. These are what made public the CIA's actions in overthrowing governments and instigating/assisting coups all over the world for decades leading up to the 70s. Pretty much every negative stereotype of the CIA we have today was created or informed by the Pentagon Papers and Church Committee Report.

    MontCoDubV , gravel2008/Youtube Report

    Surenu
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Legit question: Is it a stereotype if it's proven to be true?

    Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My!
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is no stereotype in which there isn't at least a grain of "truth" to it. Take the white, upper and middle class stereotype that black people are lazy, won't work, and are content to live on the dole. That comes directly from slavery. Whites told themselves that black people were basically slightly more intelligent monkeys that "needed" to be "taken care of". Truth? Of course not! White used that as one of their excuses for slavery. But, in order to better control the slave population, slaves were kept uneducated. It was illegal, for instance, for a slave to know how to read and write. In the north, most black people were treated little better than slaves. "Everybody" "knew" that blacks were unintelligent, shiftless, good for only the most menial jobs, etc. Sure, some black people are. Some white people are. In ANY group, you're going to have some people like that. You're also going to get highly intelligent people who are capable of being computers for NASA. The white people in power chose to accent the worst of the negative stereotypes, and they still exist. Partially because for way too many years, many white Americans grew up with these stereotypes as part of their unconscious world-view. It's hard to change a belief that you've grown up with, that "everybody" agrees with, and that you don't really realize is a stereotype. Partially, because a mostly uneducated group of people, who couldn't even count on the sanctity and identity of family, have had a horrible time climbing out of that huge hole. Someone who can't read or write, who's never done any work but picking cotton, isn't going to have an easy way to get out of extreme poverty. Multiply by the sheer number of slaves set free within a short period of time, and like the migrant workers in the Depression, too many people with not enough options. The American black population, in general, is still horribly disadvantaged compared to the white population. Again, it's dammed hard to get out of such a big whole, especially when the people who put you there are absolutely sure you can do nothing but fail, and have stacked every deck against you. (If I've offended anyone by this post, I apologize. I'm not saying that these stereotypes are true, or that I believe them. I'm saying I think this is where they came from, and why they're still so prevalent today.)

    keyboardtek
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the many years of CIA meddling in Central and South American countries all to keep them capitalist, even though most became repressive dictatorships, is the primary reason for all of the immigrants fleeing to America today.

    FranklySpeaking
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not so much to remain capitalist, but certainly to prevent the masses from gaining any power. This was labeled "socialism" and "communism" in order to keep the wealthy in power. Those elite, in turn, allowed such abominations as United Fruit to keep making stupid-high profits using virtual slaves.

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    TheAmericanAmerican
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah the good ol' CIA. Couping DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED governments around the world since it's inception!

    Tamra
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And that's only up to the 70's.

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    #6

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public Operation Northwoods. The DoD proposed that CIA operatives plant bombs around the United States and commit terrorist acts and blame them on Cuba. This was approved all the way up to, but not including, the President. 

    no_okaymaybe , nsarchive2 Report

    AJay
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am pretty sure the president they are referring to is John F Kennedy.

    Daniel Gómez
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, it is said that it happened as recently as 2001 with 911, so...

    Bookworm
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sometimes think the Cold War and the Cuban Missile Crisis made everyone involved go a little crazy. Reading about some of the history, it's like they completely internalized 'We hate Cuba!' but never got past that to ideas like 'Why do we hate Cuba?' and 'If we're trying to prevent Cuba from attacking America, how does it make any sense to just go and attack America ourselves?'

    FranklySpeaking
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only ones who "hated" Cuba were the wealthy elites who lost their slave plantations and unregulated gambling empires when Batista got ousted.

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    ninjaTrashPandaBoom
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This document may or may not be apart of 'Operation Northwoods'. It does not actually mention any specific operation whatsoever. Also it states, "Subject: Justification for US Military Intervention in Cuba (TS)" It covers action "in Cuba." The rest is vague references to latter material. Not saying false flag operations have never occurred, but this document is not close to being evidence of any misdeeds.

    ninjaTrashPandaBoom
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now if we could maybe see the enclosed memo for the Chief of Operations, Cuba Project there might be something there. Pure speculation though.

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    Fabian Bernard
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    False flag strategy, it ruined Italy and other European countries untill the late 80's

    Jrog
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not very different from what they did in Italy by supporting and funding indirectly right-wing terrorism to give a platform to right-wing authoritarian parties that were closer to the American sphere of influence. It has been thoroughly documented by a Congressional report by the Pike Committee how Graham Martin, appointed by Nixon as US Ambassador in Rome, since October 1969 funneled secret US funds into the Italian MSI party. MSI was a far-right wing movement which made wide use of political violence, whose members had prominent roles in act of terrorism (bombing of stations, trains, banks etc) and were part of no less than two attempted "coup de etats", at least one documented to have been discussed in advance with Martin. Martin wrote Nixon bragging to be able to easily install a military government in Italy if requested. The policy was upheld, but a little mitigated, By John "Golpe" Volpe, Martin's successor, and George H. Bush's CIA tenure during the Ford administration.

    Nitka Tsar
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You sure thay have not done it any time?

    FranklySpeaking
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Funny how supporting a vicious tool like Batista came back to haunt the U.S. You'd think these warmongers would learn the lesson after so many dismal failures. Isn't that the definition of insanity?

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    #7

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public One of the craziest declassified CIA documents is 'Operation Midnight Climax,' where the CIA dosed unsuspecting individuals with LSD as part of mind control experiments. It reads like a spy novel, but unfortunately, it's a disturbing chapter in history.

    Neekol-USA , Fry1989 Report

    Tee Rat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It eventually led to the death of an FBI agent who was dosed by fellow agents, and he freaked out and jumped out of a hotel window.

    keyboardtek
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone who has done LSD knows that one's expectation and being in a safe setting determines if one will have a good trip. To give it to unsuspecting people would make them think they were going crazy or had been poisoned. That is just plain cruel.

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    VikingAbroad
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    RED2. Just because you feel paranoid, they can still be after you.

    Bear Hall
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Inspiration to Stephen King's "Firestarter".

    Nitka Tsar
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who… who decides all these things they did is any better from what the Nazis did in WWII? All those strange experiments. Sounds very bad to me.

    Fabian Bernard
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look for ''Saint Laurent du Pont , probably an experiment done in southern France

    Cuppa tea?
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In CSSR State police StB experimented with LSD too, there is interesting document online.

    Debbie
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These are the alien abductions?

    #8

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public The ghost tapes with creepy noises that were played in Vietnam to try and scare the Vietcong was pretty crazy. Not the most crazy but worth a mention.

    Select-Protection-75 , Combined Arms Research Library Report

    Jennifer Smith
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are terrifying to listen to in the safety of my home how much worse it must have been to hear it in the middle of the jungle

    Josh Dorsett
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It wasn't necessarily done by the CIA but by the 6th or 10th Psychological warfare unit

    Fabian Bernard
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Playing on fears and a major religion in Vietnam, ''Ancestors Cult''

    “While the CIA documents are open to the public, many find it hard to sift through the long indecipherable pages, so asking this question opens the message board up to ideas that others haven’t had a chance to sift through and to decipher yet,” the OP told Bored Panda discussing what made them pose this specific question on the subreddit.

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    According to them, “Having people who have already sifted through the wordy pages then explain them more simply to people should be more normal, especially with projects that include astral projection, teleporting, mind control and all-around general enquiries that people have regarding the positions of power.”

    #9

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public MKultra, basically McGill University in Montréal sent mental patients to the CIA from the Royal Victoria hospital. The CIA did all kind of nightmarish test on them. This was done in Montréal and only came out decades later. One of my friends mom said for years that the CIA did horrible things to her and everyone assumed she was just insane, turned out she was right and lived all her life with no one believing her. Horrible stuff.

    kebekoy , Anna Shvets/Pexels (not the actual photo) Report

    rullyman
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the people they experimented on ended up becoming the Unibomber. They challenged his beliefs in such a cruel way that it shaped him into an extremist.

    ColdSteelRonin
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was a paranoid schizophrenic that wasn't under medical care

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    #10

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public The papers describing astral projection. They brought a ‘psychic’ in and placed an envelope with coordinates and a timeframe on it. They asked him to describe what he saw. He described  dying planet where people had left to discover a new place they could populate. It was revealed that the envelope contained coordinates on Mars in the distant past. It gets much more in depth where he describes large structures, etc. It’s not very long and very much worth the read. 

    no_okaymaybe , RDNE Stock project/Pexels (not the actual photo) Report

    jade s
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Couldn't that description represent the past and the future in any location...

    Pam Sharrad
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001900760001-9.pdf

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    Red PANda (she/they)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have believed it if they didn’t tell the psychic the coordinates were mars before the interview, but they did. However, they did seem to be taking the psychic pretty seriously, so either they know something we don’t or they’re just as clueless as we are lmao.

    #11

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public Psychological warfare in the Philippines in the 1950s comes to mind. The CIA conducted research to figure out which sort of myths and superstitions the Philippine people had. They discovered that they were afraid of vampires.


    At one point they disrupted a group by snatching a local man, and putting teeth marks on his neck. They then hung him upside down for his friends to find which terrified the village.


    This was all part of an effort to elect Ramon Magsaysay as president who basically acted as a puppet for the US. The CIA wrote his speeches and directed his policy.

    ElephantEarTag , moyerphotos/Flickr (not the actual photo) Report

    Miranda Veracruz de la Joya Cardenal
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then Russia used the same technique and we had an orange puppet president controlled by them.

    The Original Bruno
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Calling Magsaysay a puppet is grossly unfair. The US recognized common interests (combatting a Soviet-backed terrorist movement which killed tens of thousands of Filipinos), but Magsaysay was a bona fide war hero of WW2, and fought for and won U.S. pay for Philippine veterans, and was the chief opposition of the U.S.-backed social-liberal party in the "dirty election of 1949."

    Norm Gilmore
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Magsaysay's administration was considered as one of the cleanest and most corruption-free in modern Philippine history; his rule is often cited as the Philippines's "Golden Years".-- Even a short check on line gets this..🙄

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    Norm Gilmore
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think a lot of these were posted by people who have "dun mi resurch" From the wiki page of Ramon Magsaysay- Magsaysay's administration was considered as one of the cleanest and most corruption-free in modern Philippine history; his rule is often cited as the Philippines's "Golden Years". Trade and industry flourished, the Philippine military was at its prime, and the country gained international recognition in sports, culture, and foreign affairs. The Philippines placed second on a ranking of Asia's clean and well-governed countries.[30][31] His presidency is seen as people-centered as government trust was high among the Filipino people, earning him the nickname "Champion of the masses" and his sympathetic approach to the Hukbalahap rebellion that the Huk rebels were not Communists; they were simple peasants who thought that rebellion was the only answer to their sufferings. He also gained nationwide support for his agrarian reforms on farmers and took action on government corrupti

    David Hale
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    1 year ago

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    Your Puppet-in-Chief for the Russians (and the Chinese) is in office right now.

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    The redditor told Bored Panda that the sheer amount of answers from the redditors had their phone blowing up. “Looking into the replies, however, has restored my hope in the world as people are aware of the wrongdoings and secretive agendas that are going on behind closed doors,” they said. “As many more wake up and start to question the narrative in today’s media and government, looking through the replies was refreshing.”

    #12

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public My previous answer to another post: https://www.theblackvault.com/ Not sure if this has been mentioned or not - I'm not scrolling through a million replies. The site is run by a guy named John Greenewald - u/blackvault - started putting in FOIA requests when he was 15 and never stopped. Currently has what is arguably the largest privately-owned collection of declassified information from the US government anywhere, and the entire archive is accessible for free. Not a "direct" answer to your question, but anything you want to know about stuff the US government was up to can be found buried in there - and he's taken the time to sort some of the more interesting stuff out to make browsing easier. Cheers!

    OgcsIanp , Nikolaos Dimou/Pexels (not the actual photo) Report

    Tee Rat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I bet that site has never been monitored by the US government, nor could they have ever been the ones to set it up.

    Isa's left eye
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thanks, now I'm gonna be busy scrolling on there for the next 3 days. Edit: Don't visit random links, kids (yes, I know, I was stupid), but this one seems safe. It is what it says it is.

    Greenmantle
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reminds me of the young computrr hacker guy in the X Files

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    #13

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public CIA black sites. Sectet prisons where terrorist suspects where taken for interrigatin/prison sentences and god knows what. Some sites where in europe too Poland and Lithuania.

    ToasterToastsToast , بو تائب Report

    Wingsofwrath
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There was also one in Bucharest, Romania codenamed "Bright Light" that functioned until roughly 2010. It was authorised by then president Ion Iliescu, currently on trial for crimes against humanity (not for that one, but for his deeds during the 1989 Revolution, and, considering he's over 90, he's unlikely to see justice)

    Jrog
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have doubts about the contents of this map. Italy never "participated" in CIA extraordinary rendition programs officially. In one case, a man called Abu Omar that was kidnapped by CIA in Milan, there was some involvement of a group of secret service operatives that acted illegally. The operation was discovered, a civil inquiry proved the CIA actions were illegal, the involvement of Italian secret services was out of their operational boundaries and unauthorized, and the heads of the service branches involved were demoted. Something similar happened in Germany the same year.

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    #14

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public You can download most of Osama bin Laden's hard-drive off the CIA's website. It's got a fair few licensed movies, anime, games, that sort of thing. All free for anyone who wants to get it.

    MaievSekashi , badjonni/Flickr Report

    Jack Burton
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh that feels like a trap... I have an arabic name, no thanks to a Guantanamo trip.

    The Original Bruno
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    From now on, I'll refer to you as Al-burton. (Never mind, the idiot CIA will just think you run a gorcery-store empire.)

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    Deborah B
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel like anyone who downloads it gets put on a watch list.

    T.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Probably get some spyware with it..

    UpupaEpops
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think I remember seeing a list of the books he had with him. I don't know what I expected of a terrorist. But it definitely wasn't a completely normal and varied list of reading materials.

    minji
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel stupid for asking this, but could someone please explain why Pandas are scared of downloading these materials? I'm not American, but I thought the CIA was a government run organisation, so shouldn't it be trustworthy?

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    #15

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public 100% the [Gateway Experience.]

    Like this s**t is f*****g *bonkers*.


    Declassified doc from 1983 detailing the CIA's usage of "harmonic resonance" to gain access to the astral plane. It describes how the CIA used astral projection to create force-fields around military bases, visit the future, and **even talk to literal God**. They call God the "Absolute," which they claim is all of the universe compiled into a single point for a single moment in time, after which the universe re-expands. Seriously, *seriously*, read this s**t if you have a mind for the creepy/unexplained.

    FblthpEDH , Markus Kniebes/Flickr (not the actual photo) Report

    Anne Jones
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like the film, The Men who stare at Goats.

    Jrog
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That was MKUltra, a different program.

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    Jrog
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously though: the CIA never actually backed this theories. The funding of these "red herring" projects had two scopes, mostly. First, scaring the Soviets into funding meaningless competing projects thus wasting resources. Second, funneling funds into secret projects that were too sensible to go through the normal appropriation channels.

    Bols
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Astral plane and Absolute? Now I want to play Baldur's Gate 3 again :D

    A girl
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You sure that's not notes from the LSD experiments?

    MP
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Guided audio is available online. I do it sometimes. It’s not just about the astral plane, it’s about controlling the future in oneness with creation. New Thought on steroids.

    Svenne O'Lotta
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Something tells me that this CIA team were really good friends with the LSD CIA team

    Mocha the Lion
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    -trying to acend to the astral plain? check. -god they call the absolute? check. this sounds like some s**t right out of baldurs gate 3

    nancy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Read "Psychic Warrior"... fascinating.

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    #16

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public The project mockingbird files that show the CIA is directly manipulating the press, and paying them handsomely to be CIA mouthpieces.

    GyrokCarns , Jon S/Flickr (not the actual photo) Report

    The Original Bruno
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Paying the Washington Post, NPR, New York Times, etc. Liberals will see these as simply the dominant sources of opinion in the U.S. and figure that they CIA forced them towards being moderates. Conservatives will see these as the architects of the sharp left bent of the "mainstream media." Probably both are correct: the CIA has cultivated a statist, big-government society that protects the interests of the global, trillion-dollar corporations while opposing the populist wing of the Republican Party which objects to their plans for a global hegemony.

    Rayne OfSalt
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What, exactly, do you mean by "liberals"? You are aware that "liberals" are not left-wing or leftists, right? They're not the opposite to conservatives.

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    #17

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public The gay bomb is one I haven't seen mentionned yet.

    X3ll3n , Raphael Panhuber/Flickr (Not the actual photo) Report

    Anne Jones
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    From Google: The "gay bomb" (informally known) refers to a non-lethal psychochemical weapon concept that was speculated upon by a research laboratory within the United States Air Force. This unconventional idea involved the dispersion of sex pheromones over enemy forces, with the intent of generating mutual sexual attraction among them causing mass confusion and panic within their platoons.

    bas vdlaar
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Haven't they learned from the Greeks? Soldiers would fight much harder since their lover was in the ranks as well.

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    #18

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public The plan to make figurines that look like Osama Bin Laden and give them to kids in South Asia. After it’s left in the sun for a certain amount of time, it’s face would peel off to reveal a “demon-like visage with red skin, green eyes, and black markings,” basically a demon. The objective was to scare kids and their parents so Bin Laden and Al Qaeda would lose support.

    Liberalism65 , The Washington Post / Getty Images Report

    Bookworm
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did the CIA really not learn anything from the Operation Mongoose plans to make Fidel Castro's beard fall out so he'd be less charismatic? By the time your best idea amounts to 'let's make him look ugly!' you're being petty, not constructive.

    Alijandro Asturias
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so childish, hard to believe this was an idea

    Hobby Hopper
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reminds me of when they used Superman to fight Nazis in the comics and drum up support for WWII.

    Stephanie Barr
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Xenophobia and a disrespect for "other" humans and their intelligence seems to run rampant through the CIA

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    #19

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public When the space shuttle Challenger was destroyed, it was reported that all 7 astronauts were [unalived] instantly. It was revealed decades later that some, if not all of the astronauts survived the initial explosion, as the cockpit cabin had enough protection to not be breached. For 2 minutes and 45 seconds, they were awake and aware, as they plummeted toward the Atlantic Ocean. Understandably, NASA knew that the news of their terrifying death would have crippled the space program even more than it already was.

    Performance_Fluffy , NBC News Report

    Glasofruix
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Killed, the word you're looking for is "killed".

    Gordito Sandwich
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This has nothing to do with the CIA.

    rullyman
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you wanna really mess yourself up, think about what the recovery team saw in the capsule when they opened it up 6 weeks later :/

    Wingsofwrath
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The cockpit was destroyed on impact with the water. Yes, the astronauts were still alive until then, but died instantly on impact. And the reason the Space Shuttle had "black zones" in it's flight profile where bailout of the astronauts was impossible was because of a stipulation from the DoD (in exchange for funding) that the Shuttle had to be able to go up, snatch a Soviet sattellite and return to Earth in a single orbit. This requirement was later dropped, but it was too late to redesign the Shuttle.

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    The Original Bruno
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are we just lumping all CYA with the CIA?

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    NASA = Need Another Seven Astronauts.

    #20

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public It's not American, but Operation Mincemeat on Netflix is pretty crazy, and based on a true story. They faked war plans invading Greece, and floated a(n already dead) body from a submarine near a beach in Spain with the faked plans on the body, which they knew would get back to the Germans. It did. The Germans rearranged troops to prepare for an invasion of Greece, and the Allies walked in to Sicily.

    wesweb , Imperial War Museums Report

    DB
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Greece and Sardinia

    Julie S
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What has this got to do with the CIA? This was a British operation.

    Happy to be a wallflower
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, but it’s similar to the other things on the list, which is why it was added

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    rullyman
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's an award winning stage production in London

    and_a_touch_of_the_’tism
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    **edit:** this was a double comment. Ignore it.

    and_a_touch_of_the_’tism
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve heard of this, and while a lot of these are horrible, this one is actually genius.

    HTakeover
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fantastic movie with Colin Firth.

    Steve Hall
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Movies were made about this 50 years ago or more.

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    #21

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public Operation Paperclip still blows my mind.

    WilliamShatnersTaint , NASA Report

    Donkey boi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Operation Paperclip is one that most people know about. But in case you are unfamiliar, it was basically the USA recruiting a s**t ton of Germans and Nazis (and yes, there is a difference) at the end of the war. Mostly engineers and scientists. They would be "excused of any wrong doing" (no matter how bad) if they worked for the US government. President Truman only agreed to it because of the fear that The Soviet Union would do it, and what they would do if they were successful.

    David Paterson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Googled it. And found that I already knew about it. Snaffling 1,600 Nazi engineers and scientists at the end of World War II.

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    Pferdchen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my youth, my friends and I used to hang out at Fort Hunt park without ever realizing that it was once P.O. Box 1142, a secret German prisoners of war facility involved in Operation Paperclip. One of it's "residents" was Wernher von Braun. It's kind of a strange intersection, but a hospital ward I worked in as a teenager cared for von Braun in his dying days. I was only in his room once, but I only had a vague notion of who he was, not that he was in any condition to chat. Talk about a missed "almost" opportunity! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._O._Box_1142

    Anne Jones
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some details would be useful.

    Bookworm
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was the post-WWII program to bring over German and Austrian scientists and engineers with knowledge and skills the U.S wanted, while sweeping a lot of their pasts under the rug because a lot of them had been working for the Nazis, including Wernher von Braun, who led the team that created NASA and got the U.S to space.

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    Steve Hall
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This all happened before the cia was formed.

    FranklySpeaking
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OSS, precursor to the CIA, was mostly certainly involved.

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    pep Ito
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Russian have a similar operation. Even Messerschmidt work for Spain after work. Kurt Tank for Argentina and many others for Sweden

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    #22

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public There is the testing of LSD and Agent Orange in Alberta and Ontario which has now been positively linked to parkinsons, mental illness etc. RCMP + CIA in the 60’-1980’s was wild.

    Top-Marzipan5963 , Evelyn Chong/Pexels (not the actual photo) Report

    David
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There was also testing of biological agents on small ships - forget the name of the program. I had a coworker who was involved. they would put bunnies in cages - plane flew over and sprayed chemicals - then they would collect the bunnies for the lab and hose down the chemicals off the ship. Except they didn't have proper ventilation filters and decontamination setup and contrary to the lies the sailors were not "volunteers" in the program. In the 200s there was a class action lawsuit going on. I don't know what became of it.

    #23

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public All the failed assassination attempts against Fidel Castro. According to Fabian Escalante, who worked for the Cuban counter intelligence, there were 638 of them. Here are some highlights:

    * In 1960 they tried to poison his cigars.

    * They asked the Chicago Mob for help and they said poison pills are the best. The Mobsters hired a local assassin, who gave them to a ice cream/milkshake parlor employee who was supposed to slip them into Castro's ice cream. When he tried to get the poison pills from the freezer, they were frozen solid on the coils of the freezer.

    * They planned to put explosives under a painted sea shell, as Castro loved to go scuba diving and collect sea shells. The plan was discarded as impractical

    * In the same year they contaminated a scuba diving suit for Castro with a fungus that should give Castro a deadly disease. The person tasked with this, American Lawyer James Donovan, who was negotiating the release of hostages after the bay of pigs invasion, couldn't do it in the end.

    * They trained his lover to poison him, but she got cold feet.

    * They had a James Bond like idea of poising him with a tiny needle attached to a ball point pen. The government official who was supposed to stab him with that needle, threw the pen away, as he was too afraid that the needle might accidentally poison him instead.

    * Last but not least they had the idea to assassinate his character by spraying a LSD like chemical into the broadcasting studio where he held his speeches. The idea was to make him look confused and unfit to rule. The plan was abandoned as the chemical was unreliable.

    TheBassMeister , Adonis91 Report

    rorschach-penguin
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If there isn't a movie about this yet, there should be. Plenty of comedic source material.

    Simon Chen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I like how he outlived many of those people who tried to kill him 🤣

    Geoffrey Scott
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I recall an interview in Rolling Stone with Sting's (the Police) dad who was somehow connected to CIA. There was a plot to dust (Indonesian) Suharto's speech papers with LSD. "He gave one of the most coherent and electrifying speeches of his life"

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    #24

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public The "simple sabotage field menu" made by the office of strategic services, which was the CIA before they were given the name. A guide on how to do simple sabotage in the USSR. Funny enough their guide on how managers can sabotage work sounds a lot like how much companies work today... "

    (1) Demand written orders.

    (2) "misunderstand" orders. Ask endless questions or engage in long correspondence about such orders. Quibble over them when you can.

    (3) Do everything possible to delay the delivery of orders. Even though parts of an order may be ready beforehand, don't deliver it until it is completely ready.

    (4) Don't order new working' materials until your current stocks have been virtually exhausted, so that the slightest delay in filling your order will mean a shutdown.

    (5) Order high-quality materials which are hard to get. If you don't get them argue about it. Warn that inferior materials will mean inferior work.

    (6) In making work assignments, always sign out the unimportant jobs first. See that the important jobs are assigned to inefficient workers of poor machines.

    (7) Insist on perfect work in relatively unimportant products; send back for refinishing those which have the least fiaw. Approve other defective parts whose fiaws are not visible to the naked eye.

    (8) Make mistakes in routing so that parts and materials will be sent to the wrong place in the plant.

    (9) When training new workers, give incomplete or misleading instructions.

    (10) To lower morale and with it, production, be pleasant too inefficient workers; give undeserved promotions. Discriminate against efficient workers; complain unjustly about their work.

    (11) Hold conferences when there is more critical work to be done

    (12) " [rest in pdf] It's an interesting read, but if you want to read more on the 'office side' it starts on page 28 in the scanned booklet, or page 18 of the PDF 

    chknstrp , United States Library of Congress's Prints and Photographs division Report

    Polterbean
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That does sound like a lot of companies work nowadays

    Dela Bee
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    not me furiously taking notes to get out of doing work

    Bear Hall
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whoever wrote this had no idea how Soviet companies operate. At least half of this stuff was part of everyday business.

    John Dilligaf
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    update this - "Have your IT section remove all the monitor software and internet blocks on the company computers"

    Norm Gilmore
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Carry out updates on software at critical stages of processing..

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    Zaach
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For a humorous look at the OSS/CIA check out "Pardon, You Are Stepping On My Cloak and Dagger" - published in the early '60s

    Norm Gilmore
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    https://www.cia.gov/static/5c875f3ec660e092cf893f60b4a288df/SimpleSabotage.pdf

    v
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kind of like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0vIMYPLjL4

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    #25

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public US military advisors saying that an armed conflict in Vietnam can't be won due to the general sentiment and freedom movement they'd fight. That the vietnamese liberation movement would continue no matter what or who would actually end up leading it. Second being Nixon sabotaging and delaying peace talks in Vietnam so he could blame it as LBJ's failure and win the election.

    WerdinDruid , U.S. Navy Report

    seana lammers
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sort of like a certain orange colored politician sabotaging resolutions to help resolve immigration, misogyny, racism, world conflicts ….

    FranklySpeaking
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same dirty-tricks a$$hole in both administrations: Roger Stone.

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    Gordito Sandwich
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reagan did this too with Iran and their hostages to embarrass Jimmy Carter. Prolonging human suffering to score political points.

    Elemcie
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nixon was a sneaky Rick with a P his whole career.

    Tamra
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. The nickname Tricky D I C K was well-earned.

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    Jrog
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The position of military advisors on the Vietnam war was all over the place. Some were sure of a swift victory. Some were skeptical of any possibility of military victory. Some would even bet that the Soviet Union and China would drop support to Vietnamese as soon as the USA entered the theater leading to a "cascading" shift toward the western sphere of influence in Asia. So, the documents referenced here were not as "crazy" as one may think, there would have been conflicting or opposing opinions with the same level of secrecy. The Nixon thing, though, is totally true and crazy. Crazier yet if you think Reagan pulled the exact same trick with the Iranian hostage crisis against Carter.

    Legendbird
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was Nixon and Kissinger together sabotaging the talks.

    Pferdchen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Similar to Ronald Reagan's campaign team working with Iran in the Iran-Contra scandal. It seems that Republican's have a long history of engaging with foreign adversaries to gain political advantage.

    David
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the first is a rumor that has been passed around for year, but no actual confirmed source or person. Though a former KGB Colonel post USSR claimed they created that rumor in the US press. People forget the South was a govt led by one of the 3 original anti-colonial rebel leaders (the North was led by Ho, who was one of the others), who was overthrown in a coup after he tried to sieze power when he deposed the Emperor which gave the Souths govt legimacy. But we know from the old NVA files, that in 1969 they were on the brink of surrendering, and their own data showed that most of the North didnt care who was in charge. Vietnam is a war that could have been won if the US listened to the South Vietnamese Generals plans, rather than have planners in DC create things not based on reality on the ground. Oh the Nixon sabataging the peace talks is a rumor from one former staffer, no evidence to support it.

    Carol Lock
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ahhhhh ... Danger Yam! Wish he'd just move to Russia and run for politics there.

    John Dilligaf
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the OSS, forerunners of the CIA, actually recommended that we support Ho Chi Minh in his struggle for independence against the French. They pointed out (correctly) that he was much more a nationalist than a communist and if we supported his fight he'd be predisposed to friendly relations with the USA. .... But two things foreclosed that idea (1) was the rabid anti-communist faction in the USA politics gained acedency. Thus cooperating with anyone (much less supporting them) with the least connection to communism became impossible. and (2) the French demanded a free hand in Viet-Nam as their price for supporting NATO and German membership in it. Pres Eisenhower made the political decision that checking the Soviets in Western Europe was more important than Viet-Nam's independence movement.

    pep Ito
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was common knowledge since the Indochina war (French after WWII). Many novels of the time written by Morris West or Lean Laterguy among others already told that.

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    #26

    The Tuskegee Experiments.

    RecycledDonuts Report

    Elemcie
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Such racist hateful people came up with that. The doctors who went along with it were effin criminals.

    LokisLilButterknife
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It would be nice if BoredPanda actually did their jobs as “writers” and put a brief description of some of these experiments instead of just copy and pasting content from Reddit and Buzzfeed. 🙄

    The Rogue Adventurers.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    bored panda doesn't write any of these, they're taken from replies to a reddit post

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    David Paterson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, the infamous syphilis study. Looking at the progress of untreated syphilis.

    Teresa Weaver
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, the CIA used gangster rap as a psy op to destroy the black communities. The provided the cash for Dr Dre. NWA, Kanye, etc to get started and make their music. Lest we forget, ALL the coke the CIA provided to the inner city communities.

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    #27

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public Project Azorian was a CIA operation to retrieve the remains of the Soviet Golf-class ballistic missile submarine K-129. It sank in the North Pacific while on patrol, resting on the seafloor about 3 miles down. The CIA and DoD believed that a salvage opeartion had the potential to retrieve nuclear SLBMs, nuclear torpedoes, code books and cryptographic gear from the wreck. But the Soviets often patrolled the spot to prevent the Americans from doing exactly that. The CIA was ordered by Henry Kissinger to collaborate with Howard Hughes to set up a flase flag deep-sea mining concern, which involved the construction of a huge purpose-built ship called the USNS Hughes Glomar Explorer. It had the outward appearance of a deep-sea mining vessel, but concealed inside was an enormous moon pool with a giant claw that would be lowered down to grab the wreck and pull it up to the surface. Allegedly, they did snag the wreck, but the claw suffered a malfunction halfway up causing a portion of the hull to fall back down to the seafloor. The details of the portion of the hull that was actually recovered and what exactly was found have never been officially disclosed. Kissinger authorized a second attempt, but before that could be affected, the LA Times broke a story about the operation, allegedly sourced from a memo that was part of a cache of documents that was stolen from a Hughes office some months prior. The operation now being fully blown, the Soviet Navy stationed destroyers at the spot to prevent the Americans from trying again, and Kissinger finally nixed any plans for further attempts. The Wikipedia article on this operation hints that allegedly the front part of the hull was recovered, including two intact nuclear torpedoes and the sonar dome, and that the part of the hull containing the nuclear-tipped missiles, code books and cryptographic gear was lost due to the claw malfunction. It also hints that the claw malfunction story may have been a fabrication, and that all of the sought after sensitive materiel had been recovered and covered up, presumably to preserve their advantage thus gained from its study. The remains of six Soviet submariners were also recovered, and given a burial at sea in accordance with military convention.

    dck*ll97 , CIA Report

    Heather Gomez
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There was a book written about it. Really interesting read

    David
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The NOVA documentary Submarines and Spies covered this very well. In 1991 as part of a good will gesture the US released the video of that at sea funeral for the soviet sailors recovered, with CIA provided Soviet flags for each body, a military honor guard, and they played the Soviet anthem. That video was played on Russian TV in 1991 and helped for a while with the US image in russia

    John Dilligaf
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A giant claw to reach down and pull up a submarine. That's same Sat morning cartoon or James Bond villain s*it right there

    Pferdchen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I suppose that the search for the Titanic was a cover for an expedition to locate two sunken U.S. nuclear submarines with (obviously) nuclear reactors, at least one with nuclear weapons is well known... https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/13/us/titanic-discovery-classified-nuclear-sub/index.html

    Gordito Sandwich
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It wasn't a claw but a chain linked net that deep sea divers installed on the wreck to pull it up. Part of the netting failed on the ascent.

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    #28

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public The craziest declassified CIA documents are the ones written as red herrings for spies back in the cold war, like the one that detailed their psychic experiments with remote viewing that granted the US the capability to see anywhere at any point in time whenever they want (by using Mars as a target and "looking into the past" to see a "recent martian civilization" at various points in time).

    magistrate101 , Paul Morse/The White House Report

    Jrog
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Red herrings, and also excellent means of appropriating resources for the actual secret stuff that was a bit too secret to fully share with Congress.

    keyboardtek
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And many MAGA folk are the ones who believe all this stuff.

    Sparky4
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See previous post about exactly this.

    Pferdchen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Strategic Defense Initiative, better known as Star Wars, was a bluff from day one. This is debated, but a retired Admiral and former Secretary of Energy personally told me he was the one who proposed it as such to Reagan. I might suspect that his claim was itself disinformation, but my irrelevance and how long afterwards he said that makes me think his claim was legit.

    #29

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public MK Ultra but unfortunately the only documents we got from it are from an offsite storage space that the officials in the CIA forgot about. Also the CIA document that says the political structure of the USSR wasn’t a one man one rule or the one talking about how Tibet was a feudal backwater.

    MobyDickOrTheWhale89 , MICHAEL-ROBINETT Report

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    #30

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public Well the CIA have a “heart attack gun” where they can shoot someone undetected, and they later have a heart attack that looks to be natural. And they hire magicians to perform sleight of hand maneuvers. For example to put something in someone’s drink without them noticing it.

    numbersev , Pixabay/Pexels (not the actual photo) Report

    Jack Burton
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm pretty curious about this heart attack gun ? A heart attack comes after an artery if obstructed by a clot. How can you manage to dis this with a gun ? And unoticed ?

    Jrog
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A gun that shot a ice shard made with a heart-stopping shellfish poison similar to the one in blowfish.

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    #31

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public [Operation Sea Spray] - a 1950 U.S. Navy secret biological warfare experiment in which Serratia marcescens and Bacillus globigii bacteria were sprayed over the San Francisco Bay Area in California, in order to determine how vulnerable a city like San Francisco may be to a bioweapon attack.


    Between 1949 and 1969, open-air tests of biological agents were conducted 239 times. In 80 of those experiments, the Army said it used live bacteria that its researchers at the time thought were harmless.

    WalkinTarget Report

    Surenu
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read about this just yesterday while looking for something completely different. The US Navy parking a warship right in the Bay and spraying the city with bacteria just to see what happens. I sometimes wonder how ideas like don't get someone court-martialed.

    Gordito Sandwich
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The CIA is literally above the law. There's no one to court martial because they answer to a person, not to the law.

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    Jrog
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This makes it sound worse than it is. The first strain used is a "cousin" of the plague and scarlet fever ones, but basically innocuous and already naturally present in most wet human environments such as bathrooms. The second one is an harmless bacteria which major interest is in the fact it behaves like Anthrax and is dark black in color, resulting extremely useful to track spread and movement of other more dangerous bacteria.

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    #32

    The UFO papers (while very possibly fake) were a really wild thing to read through. I believe they were declassified in 2019-2020 iirk. There’s some truly wild s**t in those.

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    #33

    Got to be the one about remote viewing aliens in the late 80s: There is a document where a remote viewer (like a psychic who travels space and time) is commanded to try to view 'Galactic Federation HQ'. The guy describes a huge structure with towering corridors, and alien figures. It wouldn't be all that weird had the ex-chief of Israel's space security (a very decorated and respected figure in the field) not echoed the language of this obscure document by coming out a few years ago and claiming there was a 'Galactic Federation' of alien races that humans weren't allowed to join because we weren't worthy yet. He claimed there's a base deep within Mars where American astronauts work alongside the federation.

    riskoooo Report

    Steffi Rose
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wut in the scientology did I just read?! Lol

    Lyyyy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe this document is a red herring or was fabricated by CIA as a measure against spying? Or to cause confusion

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    #34

    30 Of The Most Unsettling Declassified CIA Documents Available To The Public The CIA cafeteria drama goes hard.

    Co9w , Yuya Tamai/Flickr (not the actual phtoo) Report

    David Paterson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Possibly "10 Declassified CIA Cafeteria Complaints" from https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/57805/10-declassified-cia-cafeteria-complaints

    #35

    Operation Mockingbird.

    Zloiche1 Report

    David Paterson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Looked it up. Wiretapping journalists to identify their secret sources of leaked classified information.