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“Absolutely Inhumane”: Cop Who Fatally Tasered 95YO Woman In Nursing Home Reveals Reason
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“Absolutely Inhumane”: Cop Who Fatally Tasered 95YO Woman In Nursing Home Reveals Reason

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An officer in New South Wales (NSW) is currently facing trial after using his Taser on a great-grandmother.

Senior Constable Kristian White defended himself, stating that he perceived the woman, Clare Nowland, as an “imminent threat” and used the electric implement to paralyze the 95-year-old, who suffered fatal injuries after receiving the discharge to her chest.

Highlights
  • Officer White claims 95-year-old was an 'imminent threat' due to a knife.
  • White faces manslaughter charges, claiming self-defense in court.
  • Clare Nowland had dementia and was under antipsychotic medication.
  • Staff reported Nowland's erratic behavior and past knife attacks.

White is facing charges of manslaughter at the NSW Supreme Court, with his defense team arguing that his response was justified because Nowland was armed with a knife. 

Prosecutors, on the other hand, stated that White had breached his duty, causing the woman’s unlawful death due to negligence.

An Australian police officer is facing trial for fatally tasering a 95-year-old woman. His defense argues that the woman was dangerous and was armed with a knife

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White’s barrister, Troy Edwards, claimed that his client acted in self-defense because he believed a violent confrontation to have been imminent. The officer seconded this version of events and has remained consistent in his testimony since the day of the incident.

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Detective Sergeant Mitchell Bosworth, who led the investigation, testified that White’s account reflected his belief that using force was inevitable to prevent potential harm to others, including police officers.

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The trial also included a geriatrician’s testimony on Clare Nowland’s mental health. Dr. Susan Kurrle, who did not personally treat the 95-year-old, reviewed her medical records and confirmed that she had dementia and had been prescribed potent antipsychotic medication to help manage the symptoms.

Records from Nowland’s nursing home also referenced her acting erratically, with “intrusive behaviors” complicating her stay.

Staff from Nowland’s nursing home said they were forced to call security after she attacked them with knives during a dementia episode

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Footage from the nursing home was shown in court to further support White’s defense, showing Nowland slowly moving with a walker while holding two knives. Fellow residents were interviewed, and they reported Nowland entering their rooms uninvited during the night, but said she had not threatened them.

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Nursing home staff also stated that Nowland waved the knives in the air after they tried to detain her, eventually throwing one at a staff member who was able to avoid it, causing it to hit the ground. After the incident, staff called emergency services, labeling Nowland a “very aggressive resident.”

Image credits: ABC News (Australia)

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“The circumstances she’s passed away in are unfathomable. I think we’re all still shocked,” said Kylie Paske, Nowland’s granddaughter, who attended the trial with other family members.

“You don’t think you’re going to wake up to your grandmother being Tasered.”

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Investigations are still ongoing, with prosecutors trying to determine whether White’s actions were justified, or were an act of manslaughter that showed reckless disregard for human life.

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Jp Goat
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4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sure a trained cop could have restrained a 95 year old woman with out need of any equipment. Obviously not fit to be a policeman

Cool crow
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or, if the police were scared could they not use a shield? Are they no longer part of police issue?

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Pete jamail
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4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good thing this didn’t happen in the US. She would have gotten her a*s kicked first and her family would have to watch the cop whine every night on Fox about how mean everybody is to him.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
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4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Negligent on the part of the nursing home to allow the woman to have access to knives (unless they were not-deadly plastic knives/butter knives and the article is leaving out this info on purpose.) But even if the knives were a sort that could actually harm others - she still didn’t need to be Tased.

Loch Ness Monster
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It was a steak knife. A frail, 95 year old woman who needs a walking frame and is showing signs of dementia... and a healthy, male police officer was so threatened that he saw no other solution than to use a taser on her.

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Marija S
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4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A woman that old could have been subdued without the taser even with her brandishing a knife. Really excessive

Kalevra
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3 weeks ago

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Yes chance any injury to yourself on the belief that a 95 year old cant stab you. Become a police officer. Obviously you can do it better.

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Tiger
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4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is a 95 year old lady going to do to you, even if she had a knife? A taser was so unnecessary

Ms. Mack
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked as a certified nursing assistant many moons ago, on an Alzheimer's Unit. We had a patient admitted with a dementia diagnosis that was actually psychotic. He had worked in a lumber mill for 50 years and at 67 was very muscular. He was also very aggressive. He managed to get a hold of me and to drag me into a bathroom by the neck and proceeded to try to strangle me. It was terrifying! I also had a frail appearing little old lady rip a chunk of flash off the back of my hand as I was trying to assist her with dressing...

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LaserBrain
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3 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"But she wasn't following my instructions, so I was forced to..." Cop logic is the same as wife beater logic. Beware.

Liz Overhiser
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3 weeks ago

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Ian Rose
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mother is of a similar age (90+) also uses a walking frame & I can state with 100% certainty that eve if armed with 6 knives she would NOT be an immediate danger to ANYBODY for the simple reason that she cannot move with any speed. It is like she is in perpetual slow motion

Azzir azzir
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry. 95 years old? A TASER??!! Really? My personal message to the officer: You suck.

David Hopkins
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If that big strapping cop can't take a 95-year-old woman, knife or no knife, he's in the wrong business (and I'm a retired cop).

Forrest Hobbs
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I read "Footage from the nursing home was shown in court to further support White’s defense, showing Nowland slowly moving with a walker while holding two knives." - and that's supposed to *defend* the decision to hit the woman with a taser shot? "slowly moving with a walker"? Right - so, pick up a cushion off the nearest comfy chair, and use that to trap whatever attempt at a knife attack she might make? I've met a frail 90-something year old with dementia (grandparent - very sad). Such people are not a threat to anyone with a sound mind and sound body.

Loch Ness Monster
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember the media when it first happened (I live in the state), there was a press conference with a police spokesperson of some sort who was given the job of explaining what happened. He looked and sounded so uncomfortable and like he didn't really believe what he had to say.

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WalterWhiteSavannah
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Jesus. I've been in Healthcare almost 3 years now. I have been s**t kicked by a 90 year old schizophrenic woman who supposedly couldn't walk, but who literally sprinted naked down the hall at me while I was working alone due to staffing shortages. I had to carry her as gently as possible back to her room and while I definitely didn't enjoy getting kicked, punched, scratched, bitten and elbowed the whole while there was literally never a point where I ever even considered her a true threat or got angry or even thought poorly of her. I've had other residents who have made me bleed and kicked me and etc... and not once did I ever even for one second think anything but "well heck I better get them to bed and call for a prn tranquilizer." This cop should be in jail for life. Or beaten to death. I don't care which. What the actual f**k. After I got her I'm bed she managed to throw a table at me and then attack me again before I got outside and held the door till they could come sedate her.

Ron Mael's devoted wife.
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Totally unjustified, he must have known that tapering could kill someone of that age. A beefy man such as that could easily have de escalated the situation.

V
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At her age they could have just cleared the area and left her to tire herself out while keeping an eye on her to make sure she didn't hurt herself.

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nuberiffic
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3 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like a woman of this age could have been subdued with a heavy blanket.

Brazen
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If a staff member could avoid a knife thrown by this old woman, then I'm pretty sure a trained cop did not need to taser her to subdue her and get the situation under control.

Sathe Wesker
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m sorry… this is a 95 year old woman, with a walker, also dementia and yes, ok, she had knives but you’re telling me a young, TRAINED officer couldn’t have handled that situation without a taser?

Janelle Collard
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Premium
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are you sure that's not Chris Christie? Sure looks like him.

KatSaidWhat
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pepper spray might have worked first. Younger people have died after being tasered, of course this was going to go badly.

Smeghead Tribble Down Under
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was hoping that fkn thug in uniform would go to gaol, get bashed, and end up in a wheelchair the rest of his life, but karma obviously doesn't work. I can't begin to express how my blood boils over this.

Forrest Hobbs
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Revenge is not justice. The police officer implicated deserves a fair trial and whatever outcome that leads to, according to the law.

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pebs
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do they really want us to believe that the assault by a ninety-five-year-old woman could not have been resolved in any other way?

LaserBrain
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes they do. Cops are notorious for lying, to protect each other and to justify their existence.

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WalterWhiteSavannah
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3 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly I shouldn't say this but look at that goof. That's the kind complete loser who became a cop for all the wrong reasons and probly gets off on use of force. Also I get lawyers gotta lawyer but "a threat of violence was imminent" yeah guy my cat gets the zoomies and scratches me sometimes. Should I respond with a taser? Is that a reasonable and proportionate reaction to his violence? I am genuinely upset.

John Harrison
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Honestly I shouldn't say this but ..." You knew you shouldn't judge a person based on nothing but their physical appearance, but you did it anyway.

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Steve Robert
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Somehow I think the two cops on Adam 12 would have handled the situation quite different. If you can't really determine when your life is truly in danger, then you probably shouldn't be on the police force.

karen ryan
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can easily restrain an 95 year old my aunt is 100 and if I had to I can subdue her shame on him

Sam Asto
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Staff and Cop should hsve had training to desl with such an incident. Not fit for their jobs.

Forrest Hobbs
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Care home staff are often hired on minimum wages with minimum training. They're generally not the ones to blame. Blame the care home management for not hiring suitably trained staff, and blame the police officer for Doing It Wrong.

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Loch Ness Monster
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Today he was found guilty of manslaughter. He will be sentenced tomorrow.

Roberta Surprenant
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

poor excuse for a policeman if he can't overpower a 95 year old without killing her.

HardBoiledBlonde
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My 82 year old mother with mental illnesses and dementia (undiagnosed at that time) once came at me with a butcher's knife held aloft in her fist while my back was turned. Luckily, I turned at the last minute, shoved her against the wall and knocked the butcher knife out of her hand. I sat on her while I called the police and we had her involuntarily committed to the psychiatric hospital. She is now in a nursing home and appropriately heavily medicated (including benzos) so that she is unable to physically harm others - she gave me several black eyes, broken toes and fingers and deep scratches/wounds that scarred. She is also only allowed plastic cutlery. Appropriately heavily medicated, including benzos, both orally and by injection PRN, is the key. The only way she harms now is with her words.

qkppyrxvfx
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a no one wins situation. I really want to know why the lady was able to access knives if she had a history of aggressive behaviour. The nursing home had to hold some responsibility here.

Lucy Ar
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have armed three or four large men with quilts to throw over her. I worked a women jail and all we had were bed sheets to rush and wrap crazy fighting inmates and it worked.

Forrest Hobbs
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One big man would have been enough for this 95 year old woman who couldn't walk unaided.

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Mary Klemzak
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's not justified, but in a way, I think he did have his reasons. She was dangerous, going into other residents' rooms unprompted, on very powerful d***s for dementia, and just acting erratically. She probably couldn't be rehabilitated, if she even knew at all what she was doing. Dementia is so sad, and can obviously be dangerous to the patients, as well as others. Yes it's sad how she died, and the officer will have to answer for what he did. What else could he have done to disarm her? She had a knife in each hand. I'd be scared and either hide from her, or would be on the defense. That would probably have ended badly, for one of us.

Forrest Hobbs
Community Member
3 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She had a knife in each hand but couldn't move without her walker. Anything that knocked her over posed a risk of killing her. What could he have done to disarm her? Any one of a hundred different things. Standard police gear here in the UK includes a stab vest and extensible batons, and our police are trained to use those batons to break the hand of someone wielding a knife. That would have done the job nicely, if the officer thought the situation warranted using such extreme measures. Meanwhile: the "powerful d***s" were antipsychotics, which have a tendency to dull the senses and generally slow you down, not make you erratic or dangerous: they are prescribed precisely to stop people being erratic and dangerous.

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Bry
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What they're not telling you is that is was the same old lady from the diner in Legion...

Kalevra
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3 weeks ago (edited)

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Comments did not disappoint. I knew immediately that you all would side with the woman. You all should become cops since you can do it so much better also since your opinion on police is so poor do us all a favor and do not call on them to help you when you are a victim.

Forrest Hobbs
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The comments here are not about "the police" but about one particular incompetent policeman who did the wrong thing and killed someone - as a direct consequence of his incompetence. If a fit and healthy man, trained to handle violent threats from the worst that there is, ends up killing a disabled 95 year old woman due to his use of inappropriate force - well, that man deserves critcism. Or are you, Kalevra, one of those people who thinks that police officers are all perfect and beyond criticism, with a licence to kill anyone they like?

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LizzieBoredom
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4 weeks ago

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Jp Goat
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4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sure a trained cop could have restrained a 95 year old woman with out need of any equipment. Obviously not fit to be a policeman

Cool crow
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or, if the police were scared could they not use a shield? Are they no longer part of police issue?

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Pete jamail
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good thing this didn’t happen in the US. She would have gotten her a*s kicked first and her family would have to watch the cop whine every night on Fox about how mean everybody is to him.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Negligent on the part of the nursing home to allow the woman to have access to knives (unless they were not-deadly plastic knives/butter knives and the article is leaving out this info on purpose.) But even if the knives were a sort that could actually harm others - she still didn’t need to be Tased.

Loch Ness Monster
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It was a steak knife. A frail, 95 year old woman who needs a walking frame and is showing signs of dementia... and a healthy, male police officer was so threatened that he saw no other solution than to use a taser on her.

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Marija S
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A woman that old could have been subdued without the taser even with her brandishing a knife. Really excessive

Kalevra
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3 weeks ago

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Yes chance any injury to yourself on the belief that a 95 year old cant stab you. Become a police officer. Obviously you can do it better.

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Tiger
Community Member
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is a 95 year old lady going to do to you, even if she had a knife? A taser was so unnecessary

Ms. Mack
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked as a certified nursing assistant many moons ago, on an Alzheimer's Unit. We had a patient admitted with a dementia diagnosis that was actually psychotic. He had worked in a lumber mill for 50 years and at 67 was very muscular. He was also very aggressive. He managed to get a hold of me and to drag me into a bathroom by the neck and proceeded to try to strangle me. It was terrifying! I also had a frail appearing little old lady rip a chunk of flash off the back of my hand as I was trying to assist her with dressing...

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LaserBrain
Community Member
3 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"But she wasn't following my instructions, so I was forced to..." Cop logic is the same as wife beater logic. Beware.

Liz Overhiser
Community Member
3 weeks ago

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Ian Rose
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mother is of a similar age (90+) also uses a walking frame & I can state with 100% certainty that eve if armed with 6 knives she would NOT be an immediate danger to ANYBODY for the simple reason that she cannot move with any speed. It is like she is in perpetual slow motion

Azzir azzir
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry. 95 years old? A TASER??!! Really? My personal message to the officer: You suck.

David Hopkins
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If that big strapping cop can't take a 95-year-old woman, knife or no knife, he's in the wrong business (and I'm a retired cop).

Forrest Hobbs
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I read "Footage from the nursing home was shown in court to further support White’s defense, showing Nowland slowly moving with a walker while holding two knives." - and that's supposed to *defend* the decision to hit the woman with a taser shot? "slowly moving with a walker"? Right - so, pick up a cushion off the nearest comfy chair, and use that to trap whatever attempt at a knife attack she might make? I've met a frail 90-something year old with dementia (grandparent - very sad). Such people are not a threat to anyone with a sound mind and sound body.

Loch Ness Monster
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember the media when it first happened (I live in the state), there was a press conference with a police spokesperson of some sort who was given the job of explaining what happened. He looked and sounded so uncomfortable and like he didn't really believe what he had to say.

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WalterWhiteSavannah
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Jesus. I've been in Healthcare almost 3 years now. I have been s**t kicked by a 90 year old schizophrenic woman who supposedly couldn't walk, but who literally sprinted naked down the hall at me while I was working alone due to staffing shortages. I had to carry her as gently as possible back to her room and while I definitely didn't enjoy getting kicked, punched, scratched, bitten and elbowed the whole while there was literally never a point where I ever even considered her a true threat or got angry or even thought poorly of her. I've had other residents who have made me bleed and kicked me and etc... and not once did I ever even for one second think anything but "well heck I better get them to bed and call for a prn tranquilizer." This cop should be in jail for life. Or beaten to death. I don't care which. What the actual f**k. After I got her I'm bed she managed to throw a table at me and then attack me again before I got outside and held the door till they could come sedate her.

Ron Mael's devoted wife.
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Totally unjustified, he must have known that tapering could kill someone of that age. A beefy man such as that could easily have de escalated the situation.

V
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At her age they could have just cleared the area and left her to tire herself out while keeping an eye on her to make sure she didn't hurt herself.

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nuberiffic
Community Member
3 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like a woman of this age could have been subdued with a heavy blanket.

Brazen
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If a staff member could avoid a knife thrown by this old woman, then I'm pretty sure a trained cop did not need to taser her to subdue her and get the situation under control.

Sathe Wesker
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m sorry… this is a 95 year old woman, with a walker, also dementia and yes, ok, she had knives but you’re telling me a young, TRAINED officer couldn’t have handled that situation without a taser?

Janelle Collard
Community Member
Premium
4 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are you sure that's not Chris Christie? Sure looks like him.

KatSaidWhat
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pepper spray might have worked first. Younger people have died after being tasered, of course this was going to go badly.

Smeghead Tribble Down Under
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was hoping that fkn thug in uniform would go to gaol, get bashed, and end up in a wheelchair the rest of his life, but karma obviously doesn't work. I can't begin to express how my blood boils over this.

Forrest Hobbs
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Revenge is not justice. The police officer implicated deserves a fair trial and whatever outcome that leads to, according to the law.

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pebs
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do they really want us to believe that the assault by a ninety-five-year-old woman could not have been resolved in any other way?

LaserBrain
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes they do. Cops are notorious for lying, to protect each other and to justify their existence.

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WalterWhiteSavannah
Community Member
3 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly I shouldn't say this but look at that goof. That's the kind complete loser who became a cop for all the wrong reasons and probly gets off on use of force. Also I get lawyers gotta lawyer but "a threat of violence was imminent" yeah guy my cat gets the zoomies and scratches me sometimes. Should I respond with a taser? Is that a reasonable and proportionate reaction to his violence? I am genuinely upset.

John Harrison
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Honestly I shouldn't say this but ..." You knew you shouldn't judge a person based on nothing but their physical appearance, but you did it anyway.

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Steve Robert
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Somehow I think the two cops on Adam 12 would have handled the situation quite different. If you can't really determine when your life is truly in danger, then you probably shouldn't be on the police force.

karen ryan
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can easily restrain an 95 year old my aunt is 100 and if I had to I can subdue her shame on him

Sam Asto
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Staff and Cop should hsve had training to desl with such an incident. Not fit for their jobs.

Forrest Hobbs
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Care home staff are often hired on minimum wages with minimum training. They're generally not the ones to blame. Blame the care home management for not hiring suitably trained staff, and blame the police officer for Doing It Wrong.

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Loch Ness Monster
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Today he was found guilty of manslaughter. He will be sentenced tomorrow.

Roberta Surprenant
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

poor excuse for a policeman if he can't overpower a 95 year old without killing her.

HardBoiledBlonde
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My 82 year old mother with mental illnesses and dementia (undiagnosed at that time) once came at me with a butcher's knife held aloft in her fist while my back was turned. Luckily, I turned at the last minute, shoved her against the wall and knocked the butcher knife out of her hand. I sat on her while I called the police and we had her involuntarily committed to the psychiatric hospital. She is now in a nursing home and appropriately heavily medicated (including benzos) so that she is unable to physically harm others - she gave me several black eyes, broken toes and fingers and deep scratches/wounds that scarred. She is also only allowed plastic cutlery. Appropriately heavily medicated, including benzos, both orally and by injection PRN, is the key. The only way she harms now is with her words.

qkppyrxvfx
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a no one wins situation. I really want to know why the lady was able to access knives if she had a history of aggressive behaviour. The nursing home had to hold some responsibility here.

Lucy Ar
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have armed three or four large men with quilts to throw over her. I worked a women jail and all we had were bed sheets to rush and wrap crazy fighting inmates and it worked.

Forrest Hobbs
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One big man would have been enough for this 95 year old woman who couldn't walk unaided.

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Mary Klemzak
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's not justified, but in a way, I think he did have his reasons. She was dangerous, going into other residents' rooms unprompted, on very powerful d***s for dementia, and just acting erratically. She probably couldn't be rehabilitated, if she even knew at all what she was doing. Dementia is so sad, and can obviously be dangerous to the patients, as well as others. Yes it's sad how she died, and the officer will have to answer for what he did. What else could he have done to disarm her? She had a knife in each hand. I'd be scared and either hide from her, or would be on the defense. That would probably have ended badly, for one of us.

Forrest Hobbs
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3 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She had a knife in each hand but couldn't move without her walker. Anything that knocked her over posed a risk of killing her. What could he have done to disarm her? Any one of a hundred different things. Standard police gear here in the UK includes a stab vest and extensible batons, and our police are trained to use those batons to break the hand of someone wielding a knife. That would have done the job nicely, if the officer thought the situation warranted using such extreme measures. Meanwhile: the "powerful d***s" were antipsychotics, which have a tendency to dull the senses and generally slow you down, not make you erratic or dangerous: they are prescribed precisely to stop people being erratic and dangerous.

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Bry
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What they're not telling you is that is was the same old lady from the diner in Legion...

Kalevra
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3 weeks ago (edited)

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Comments did not disappoint. I knew immediately that you all would side with the woman. You all should become cops since you can do it so much better also since your opinion on police is so poor do us all a favor and do not call on them to help you when you are a victim.

Forrest Hobbs
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3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The comments here are not about "the police" but about one particular incompetent policeman who did the wrong thing and killed someone - as a direct consequence of his incompetence. If a fit and healthy man, trained to handle violent threats from the worst that there is, ends up killing a disabled 95 year old woman due to his use of inappropriate force - well, that man deserves critcism. Or are you, Kalevra, one of those people who thinks that police officers are all perfect and beyond criticism, with a licence to kill anyone they like?

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