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Control Freak Mom Puts A Tracker In Daughter’s Bag, Gets Outplayed With Hilariously Evil Revenge
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Control Freak Mom Puts A Tracker In Daughter’s Bag, Gets Outplayed With Hilariously Evil Revenge

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Worrying about your kids is normal for any parent. As long as that worry isn’t overbearing, of course. One recent poll found that many parents might have controlling tendencies even if they’re not aware of them. 54% of the respondents worry someone might scare or follow their unsupervised child.

But what about the times parents start tracking children without their knowledge? Like in this story, where a controlling ex-wife put an AirTag in her daughter’s backpack for a trip with her father. The daughter and dad duo found a funny way to deal with the tracker, and the dad, to the amusement of many, shared the story online.

Bored Panda reached out to Hara Estroff Marano, the editor-at-large of Psychology Today and author of A Nation of Wimps: The High Cost of Invasive Parenting. She told us more about invasive and helicopter parenting, why parents do it, and how it affects children long-term.

A dad and daughter duo used a potato as the conduit of revenge against an overbearing mother

Image credits: Mindaugas Balčiauskas / Boredpanda (not the actual photo)

After they found an AirTag in the daughter’s backpack, they decided to mail it back to the controlling mother with a humorous twist

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Helicopter parenting is the result of parents’ anxiety

Hara Estroff Marano says that helicopter parenting is all about wanting the best for your child. The parents who do it are just going about it the wrong way. “The parents are not ill-motivated; they just happen to be 100 percent wrong about the way to produce successful adults.”

“For example, they take all the [child’s free] play out of childhood, believing it is a waste of time,” Marano points out. “In fact, free play builds happy, active children with agile brains, precisely what is needed for the dynamic economy and jobscape we inhabit.”

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“In addition, in the belief that they are smoothing the path to success for their kids, they take all the lumps and bumps out of their lives. That, however, deprives children of the ordinary little challenges of life through which people normally not only learn to cope with life’s vicissitudes but gain the confidence that they can.”

Overprotective parents are so because of their own anxiety. “[It] constricts their vision and tightens their grip,” Marano explains. “Parents can’t trust that kids will grow up OK and figure out how to manage by themselves because the parents are anxious about their children.”

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It deprives children of their independence and infantilizes them

“We are not and have not been living in a culture of optimism for some time, so parents’ concerns about their kids’ future are somewhat understandable,” Marano says. 

“However, it is always the job of parents to filter the culture for children and prepare them for independence. You do not make children independent by removing challenges from their lives but by allowing children to approach and master them.”

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Marano explains that helicopter parenting infantilizes children. “[It] deprives them of opportunities to learn how to cope with life’s challenges and kills confidence in their ability to cope.”

Marano points to the increase in mental health conditions in young people. “They have terrible self-esteem and high levels of anxiety and depression,” she adds. “They have an oversized fear of failure because they’ve never been afforded the opportunity to learn that you can mess up and still survive, even thrive.”

“It is indeed ironic that helicopter parents, who want only the best for their kids, wind up bringing out the worst in them.”

Image credits: Czapp Árpád / Pexels (not the actual photo)

AirTags might seem like a godsend for anxious parents, but experts caution against using them to track children

AirTags can be a convenient way to tackle the problem of lost keys and other items. But some parents have been using the trackers to keep tabs on their kids, just like the mother in this story. There’s been a debate going on for the past several years: is it morally wrong to put a tracker on a child or is it a godsend to anxious parents who worry about their kids getting kidnapped?

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Parents who put AirTags on their kids defend their decision by saying that to be a parent is to worry constantly about your child’s safety. Strangers, sketchy situations, and children’s bad decisions who knows what can happen to a kid when they’re alone. And AirTags can take some of that pressure off worrying parents.

Yet experts say that it’s not the best strategy to guarantee your child’s safety. Lenore Skenazy, the president of Let Grow, told Fox26 Houston that tracking your child can definitely make them feel uncomfortable. “A kid who’s being watched all the time is not a kid who has a chance to prove to themselves, and to their parents that they really are responsible. It changes the relationship between you and the child, even subtly.”

Interestingly, research shows that the world has never been safer for children than it is today. The biggest threat a child faces today is an accident, whether in a car, by drowning, in a fire, or due to something else. The odds someone will abduct a child is equal to getting hit by lightning, as in 2017, one out of every 293,800 minors was a victim of abduction by a stranger.

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Using AirTags to keep tabs on your kid is also not foolproof. AirTags can get stolen, and children can lose them together with their belongings. However, the trackers don’t provide a real-time location of a person or an object. A parent can only see the last known location of their child if they choose to use an AirTag.

The father gave more details about his complicated relationship with his ex in the comments

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“Revenge is a dish best served au gratin,” many people were quick to craft puns about this harmless but fun revenge story

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Kornelija Viečaitė

Kornelija Viečaitė

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Hi there, fellow pandas! As a person (over)educated both in social sciences and literature, I'm most interested in how we connect and behave online (and sometimes in real life too.) The human experience is weird, so I try my best to put its peculiarities in writing. As a person who grew up chronically online, I now try to marry two sides of myself: the one who knows too much about MySpace, and the one who can't settle and needs to see every corner of the world.

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Kornelija Viečaitė

Kornelija Viečaitė

Writer, BoredPanda staff

Hi there, fellow pandas! As a person (over)educated both in social sciences and literature, I'm most interested in how we connect and behave online (and sometimes in real life too.) The human experience is weird, so I try my best to put its peculiarities in writing. As a person who grew up chronically online, I now try to marry two sides of myself: the one who knows too much about MySpace, and the one who can't settle and needs to see every corner of the world.

Mindaugas Balčiauskas

Mindaugas Balčiauskas

Author, BoredPanda staff

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I'm a visual editor at Bored Panda. I kickstart my day with a mug of coffee bigger than my head, ready to tackle Photoshop. I navigate through the digital jungle with finesse, fueled by bamboo breaks and caffeine kicks. When the workday winds down, you might catch me devouring bamboo snacks while binging on the latest TV show, gaming or I could be out in nature, soaking up the tranquility and communing with my inner panda.

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Mindaugas Balčiauskas

Mindaugas Balčiauskas

Author, BoredPanda staff

I'm a visual editor at Bored Panda. I kickstart my day with a mug of coffee bigger than my head, ready to tackle Photoshop. I navigate through the digital jungle with finesse, fueled by bamboo breaks and caffeine kicks. When the workday winds down, you might catch me devouring bamboo snacks while binging on the latest TV show, gaming or I could be out in nature, soaking up the tranquility and communing with my inner panda.

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notlikeyou1971
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel so sorry for these generations compared to ours (Gen X) we had so much fun and freedom. We could go places alone and be gone all day enjoying ourselves as long as we were home at a designated time. Parents didn't supervise our every move like they do now. They let us stay home alone. We rode bikes ( yes with no helmets either, because they didn't exist) . Learned how to lose. Got dirty and had so much fun and independence. Parents like her are going to drive her daughter as far away from her as she can possibly get as soon as her daughter is old enough. Next time you can take her anywhere that involves her having any sort of luggage,the 1st thing I would do is check her bags for air tags or tracking devices. I would also get her a separate phone that her mom can't put tracking apps on. Your daughter needs freedom and privacy. She's a teenager. She's not a 5yr old. That would drive me insane if I was your daughter. I hope when she's with you she has more freedom and privacy to give herself independent and peace. It seems your ex is trying to make your daughter into what she wants her to be vs what you daughter wants to be. That's wrong. Is she old enough to decide where she wants to live? Id ask her if she wants to come live with you instead of staying in a house that seems like a prison. A home is supposed to be a teens sanctuary not the unhealthy environment she's living in. I'm really surprised it isn't doing mental damage to her.

Couragetcd
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your glasses are a tad too rose colored. We had a lot of freedom, but a lot of that was because both parents worked and there wasn't anyone home to wrangle us. Then when they were home, they were always tired and stressed so there was lots of yelling over small things.

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Jackie Lulu
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm positive that if these things were available when I was a teenager, my parents would have tracked me going out to the mailbox!

Learner Panda
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know exactly how rotten potatoes smell. And how squishy they are. Well played!

Hoban Michelle
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We had a parent do this at school. Her tracker also could eavesdrop. We had to lock her son’s bag in a closet. She complained and we had to take legal action. She thought she had a right to listen to what was going on with her son all the time. Not fair to other children in the class or to staff.

Bookworm
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also could be illegal, if you're in the U.S in one of the 11 two party consent states.

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Steve Hall
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have done so much worse with the air tag, that sucker would be touring China or some other far off land. There would be automated "mommy help me" phone calls...the possibilities are endless.

Abraxas59
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Omg this lmao quick detour to an air port hid it somehow n watch the control freak have a total break down 😂😂😂

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Ash
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good on OP for protecting their kid from abusive and controlling behavior from the ex. His balancing influence may be enough to keep his kids from being too traumatized by their mother's behavior.

David Shaw
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If there's a next time... Take the tag to your nearest international airport. Find a willing passenger and explain the situation to them... Bonus points for each subsequent flight the tag gets on.

AMaureen Dance
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe they can talk a Flight Attendant into taking it. Thing will go all over the world.

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Lucky2BAlive
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mother thinks her kids are still “Tots”. Personally I would have found a greyhounds and placed it underneath.where luggage goes, daughter comes home, tracker still going, or toss it in an open train car.

Mike m
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't have sent food but i definitely would have sent the airtag priority international. Let the mom think they're fleeing to another country.

LaserBrain
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's awesome! Ex has no business being a nasty prying busybody. Well done.

Pamela Blue
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My daughter's friend was a bit a like that. Her mother was so terrified of not knowing what her daughter might be doing, that she signed her up for everything under the sun so that she'd be busy non-stop during the evening and weekends. She had no time for herself at all. My daughter could only be friends during school hours. After that, she was unavailable. So stupid.

Kim Lorton
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OB mama could make vodka from the rotten juice, and be happy?

Parmeisan
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Re: the app tracking, you can still do it. Buy the new phone and move the sim card, daughter gets the new phone. Old phone with tracking apps goes on a trip. Edit: But I think the better idea is for the old phone to stay with daughter whenever she is with her mother. It does nothing suspicious at any time. But it gives the daughter freedom to occasionally leave the phone at dad's and know she is not tracked.

Abraxas59
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

😂😂😂😂👌👌that’s priceless wish I could have seen her face lmao

max haumpingspeed
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do I agree with tracking your kid? Yes & No, I did for awhile through my sons phone but he put the apps in both of our phones so we would always know where each other was if we couldn't answer because we were often unable to answer right away. If I was MIA he could look & see where I was and I only used it on him a couple times. I think it’s perfectly fine so long as you are honest. The world had gone CRAZY never let anyone question keeping your kids safe!

Lynn Morello
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't say Harmless Prank, I think it was Sweet revenge,.

Robyn Mo
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is it weird that the only thing about this that REALLY made me smile is that he doesn't live in the US and the snail mail is just as crappie around the world, not just the States?

Shaun Coleman
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have found an address on the far side of Earth and mailed the AirTag there.

Mike Rightmire
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Always nice when the teenage daughter and the dad share the same emotional maturity level :D

Justbecause
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This was the best response to that situation! Im glad air tags weren't around when i was a teen both my mother and my (ex) step mother would have done this to me.

Spence Hill
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Send it in a package to another country, that will really fry her!

Libstak
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would tape it to the underside of a long distance freight hauler personally, or a taxi.

Fred L.
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And some parents still wonder why their children limit or break off contact once they moved out.

Emerald Gal28
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly if she was kidnapped,no one would've known especially now when rapists, molesters and pedos are very keen on having a go with teens like these. You want freedom fine...the father wants to show he's a hero,fine but I think she's being a mom,worried for her kid. Maybe if ahe remarries and have another,she won't have time for that teen ..only then she'll miss the time where mom.only had time for her

Elle Lian
Community Member
4 months ago

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I hate that we only have one side of the story. I understand that’s how it works but what if ex-husband has been tremendously untrustworthy in the past (like keeping their child longer than agreed) and has worked to turn their child against the mom? I know we only have his word to go off of, but I think it pays to take his word with a grain of salt. I had a friend when I was young whose father did exactly this. To hear her tell the story, Mom was awful. To see reality, Dad was truly the toxic one. Their child is improving now but has taken a rough road over the years. (And, fortunately she has a good relationship with Mom now.) But it’s always reminded me that an OP isn’t always a reliable narrator.

Ginger Winters
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh yeah cause controlling and cyber stalking your kids totally has another side...

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notlikeyou1971
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel so sorry for these generations compared to ours (Gen X) we had so much fun and freedom. We could go places alone and be gone all day enjoying ourselves as long as we were home at a designated time. Parents didn't supervise our every move like they do now. They let us stay home alone. We rode bikes ( yes with no helmets either, because they didn't exist) . Learned how to lose. Got dirty and had so much fun and independence. Parents like her are going to drive her daughter as far away from her as she can possibly get as soon as her daughter is old enough. Next time you can take her anywhere that involves her having any sort of luggage,the 1st thing I would do is check her bags for air tags or tracking devices. I would also get her a separate phone that her mom can't put tracking apps on. Your daughter needs freedom and privacy. She's a teenager. She's not a 5yr old. That would drive me insane if I was your daughter. I hope when she's with you she has more freedom and privacy to give herself independent and peace. It seems your ex is trying to make your daughter into what she wants her to be vs what you daughter wants to be. That's wrong. Is she old enough to decide where she wants to live? Id ask her if she wants to come live with you instead of staying in a house that seems like a prison. A home is supposed to be a teens sanctuary not the unhealthy environment she's living in. I'm really surprised it isn't doing mental damage to her.

Couragetcd
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your glasses are a tad too rose colored. We had a lot of freedom, but a lot of that was because both parents worked and there wasn't anyone home to wrangle us. Then when they were home, they were always tired and stressed so there was lots of yelling over small things.

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Jackie Lulu
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm positive that if these things were available when I was a teenager, my parents would have tracked me going out to the mailbox!

Learner Panda
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know exactly how rotten potatoes smell. And how squishy they are. Well played!

Hoban Michelle
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We had a parent do this at school. Her tracker also could eavesdrop. We had to lock her son’s bag in a closet. She complained and we had to take legal action. She thought she had a right to listen to what was going on with her son all the time. Not fair to other children in the class or to staff.

Bookworm
Community Member
3 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also could be illegal, if you're in the U.S in one of the 11 two party consent states.

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Steve Hall
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have done so much worse with the air tag, that sucker would be touring China or some other far off land. There would be automated "mommy help me" phone calls...the possibilities are endless.

Abraxas59
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Omg this lmao quick detour to an air port hid it somehow n watch the control freak have a total break down 😂😂😂

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Ash
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good on OP for protecting their kid from abusive and controlling behavior from the ex. His balancing influence may be enough to keep his kids from being too traumatized by their mother's behavior.

David Shaw
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If there's a next time... Take the tag to your nearest international airport. Find a willing passenger and explain the situation to them... Bonus points for each subsequent flight the tag gets on.

AMaureen Dance
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe they can talk a Flight Attendant into taking it. Thing will go all over the world.

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Lucky2BAlive
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mother thinks her kids are still “Tots”. Personally I would have found a greyhounds and placed it underneath.where luggage goes, daughter comes home, tracker still going, or toss it in an open train car.

Mike m
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't have sent food but i definitely would have sent the airtag priority international. Let the mom think they're fleeing to another country.

LaserBrain
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's awesome! Ex has no business being a nasty prying busybody. Well done.

Pamela Blue
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My daughter's friend was a bit a like that. Her mother was so terrified of not knowing what her daughter might be doing, that she signed her up for everything under the sun so that she'd be busy non-stop during the evening and weekends. She had no time for herself at all. My daughter could only be friends during school hours. After that, she was unavailable. So stupid.

Kim Lorton
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OB mama could make vodka from the rotten juice, and be happy?

Parmeisan
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Re: the app tracking, you can still do it. Buy the new phone and move the sim card, daughter gets the new phone. Old phone with tracking apps goes on a trip. Edit: But I think the better idea is for the old phone to stay with daughter whenever she is with her mother. It does nothing suspicious at any time. But it gives the daughter freedom to occasionally leave the phone at dad's and know she is not tracked.

Abraxas59
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

😂😂😂😂👌👌that’s priceless wish I could have seen her face lmao

max haumpingspeed
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do I agree with tracking your kid? Yes & No, I did for awhile through my sons phone but he put the apps in both of our phones so we would always know where each other was if we couldn't answer because we were often unable to answer right away. If I was MIA he could look & see where I was and I only used it on him a couple times. I think it’s perfectly fine so long as you are honest. The world had gone CRAZY never let anyone question keeping your kids safe!

Lynn Morello
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't say Harmless Prank, I think it was Sweet revenge,.

Robyn Mo
Community Member
3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is it weird that the only thing about this that REALLY made me smile is that he doesn't live in the US and the snail mail is just as crappie around the world, not just the States?

Shaun Coleman
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have found an address on the far side of Earth and mailed the AirTag there.

Mike Rightmire
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Always nice when the teenage daughter and the dad share the same emotional maturity level :D

Justbecause
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This was the best response to that situation! Im glad air tags weren't around when i was a teen both my mother and my (ex) step mother would have done this to me.

Spence Hill
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Send it in a package to another country, that will really fry her!

Libstak
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would tape it to the underside of a long distance freight hauler personally, or a taxi.

Fred L.
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And some parents still wonder why their children limit or break off contact once they moved out.

Emerald Gal28
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly if she was kidnapped,no one would've known especially now when rapists, molesters and pedos are very keen on having a go with teens like these. You want freedom fine...the father wants to show he's a hero,fine but I think she's being a mom,worried for her kid. Maybe if ahe remarries and have another,she won't have time for that teen ..only then she'll miss the time where mom.only had time for her

Elle Lian
Community Member
4 months ago

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

I hate that we only have one side of the story. I understand that’s how it works but what if ex-husband has been tremendously untrustworthy in the past (like keeping their child longer than agreed) and has worked to turn their child against the mom? I know we only have his word to go off of, but I think it pays to take his word with a grain of salt. I had a friend when I was young whose father did exactly this. To hear her tell the story, Mom was awful. To see reality, Dad was truly the toxic one. Their child is improving now but has taken a rough road over the years. (And, fortunately she has a good relationship with Mom now.) But it’s always reminded me that an OP isn’t always a reliable narrator.

Ginger Winters
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh yeah cause controlling and cyber stalking your kids totally has another side...

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