40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside

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Not all people who seem bad are actual monsters. But not all seemingly kind ones are actually kind, either. And unfortunately, there are quite a few of the latter kind out there, praised by people who don’t know any better; or simply don’t know enough about such individuals.

Redditor u/Independent_Sun_592 recently started a discussion about seemingly kind people, asking fellow netizens to name someone who is generally considered a great person but is actually a monster. Redditors had quite a few names prepared, so if you’re interested to see who were the wolves in sheep’s clothing, scroll down to find their answers on the list below.

Below you will also find Bored Panda’s interviews with the OP themselves and two psychology professors, Professor at Stetson University in Florida, Christopher J. Ferguson, and Professor at Georgia Gwinnett College in Georgia, David Ludden, who were kind enough to answer a few of our questions.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside This seems kind of weird as I still don’t understand how anyone can defend them.. but the Kardashians. Everyone thinks they’re “self-made” and have done a lot of charity work, but in reality they are professional scam artists and masters at tax evasion and fraud. There isn’t a good one in the entire bunch.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Every Mega Church senior pastor. I like how they constantly ask for donations and charity and then, if there's a disaster in their area, rather than help and donate to the relief fund they bar their doors in case anyone ruins their electric blue carpet.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Tom Cruise gives millions to an aggressive cult that destroys families.

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In a recent interview with Bored Panda, the OP shared that it was their interest in history that encouraged them to ask this particular question. “I was reading and studying a lot on Julius Caesar and a lot of historians and history buffs consider him a great figure of history. However, to the Gauls, which is now modern France, he would be considered a monster as he killed or enslaved 1 million of them in his conquest of Gaul.”

In addition to revealing what made them think about people who are praised by some, but despised by others, the redditor also admitted being very surprised by the amount of netizens who engaged in the thread.

40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Oprah Winfrey. She has platformed so many terrible humans, scam artists, and snake oil salesmen it’s unbelievable.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Steve Jobs was a deadbeat dad, a spoiled child masquerading as an adult, a slave labor monster, and a borderline idiot.

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“I think Julius Caesar and Alexander the Great come to mind when thinking of an ancient figure, as they were the reasons for many deaths and enslavement of their time,” the OP pointed out, providing names for who they think are considered great but are actually monsters.

“But I also think you have to look at it in the perspective of the time and in those times would he have been considered great, or a monster. I think the longer you go back in time and look at these historical figures, the more you see their greatness as opposed to their negatives,” they added.

40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside I'm glad Doctor Phil is finally getting his comeuppance. He's said and done terrible things to people who needed real help for the sake of viewership and acts like he cares so much. Well it's obvious he doesn't.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Charles Taze Russell, founder of the Jehovah's Witness. I grew up in that cult and so many people I knew died from not getting blood transfusions.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Christopher Columbus.

Quick reminder, the imperialist and slave-holding nation of Spain sent him to prison once he got back from the new world because his monstrous brutality towards his slaves was too much even for them.

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Talking about liking certain people, especially on a superficial level, Prof. Christopher J. Ferguson pointed out that we generally judge people by how they present themselves and, ultimately, how charming they are (which might not work with historical figures, as they can’t alter the way they present themselves anymore). And for the most part, that seems to work out fine, as—although we all engage in some "positive image management"—most people's outward personalities are reasonably representative of who they are.

However, according to the expert, some folks learn to game that system and purposefully present themselves in ways that will be attractive to others that don't necessarily represent who they truly are. “This may include insincere flattery, learning to be interesting and ‘cool’ or presenting oneself as a moral crusader,” he said.

40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Blows my mind that a good number of Americans still praise Ronald Reagan. He was a gd monster. He dismantled the mental health care system in California when he was governor and that had direct impacts on the growing homeless population.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Chris Brown. His fame is particularly disturbing to me because over the years since his attacks on Rihanna, he has been involved in numerous altercations, charged with multiple counts of abuse, holding women hostage, sexual assault and armed standoffs with the police. It’s clear he has not evolved or matured as a person and presents a significant threat to many people. The fact he still gets support and is collaborating with artists is very disheartening.
I’m in favour of allowing grace for those who have mended their ways, but this individual has not stopped hurting and endangering people, almost exclusively women and the fact he’s still seen as a sought after artist is confusing to me.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Personnel in HR Department. They’re not there for you. Don’t bother to report anything or it will backfire on you.

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“In recent years, as victimhood has gained currency, presenting oneself as a ‘victim’ may also be a viable strategy for some [people],” Prof. Ferguson continued. “Such people may present leadership qualities without having the internal substance to back them up and their true purpose is less to guide others towards doing something useful as opposed to lining their own pockets.“

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Mufuggin Gandhi.

When Gandhi's wife was stricken with pneumonia, British doctors told her husband that a shot of penicillin would heal her; nevertheless, Gandhi refused to have alien medicine injected into her body, and she died.

Soon after, Gandhi caught malaria and, relenting from the standard he applied to his wife, allowed doctors to save his life with quinine. He also allowed British doctors to perform an appendectomy on him, an alien operation if ever there was one.

Also he served on the British side in South Africa and earned a medal for valor.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside President Andrew Jackson trail of tears, why is he on the 20 dollar bill

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Pablo Picasso was an unrelenting bastard to his romantic partners. He once said "for me there are two kinds of women: goddesses and doormats." And his granddaughter described his treatment of the women in his life by saying: "He submitted them to his animal sexuality, tamed them, bewitched them, ingested them, and crushed them onto his canvas. After he had spent many nights extracting their essence, once they were bled dry, he would dispose of them."

And that wasn't hyperbole, two of Picasso's partners suffered nervous breakdowns due to his emotional abuse. Worse yet his lover Marie-Thèrése Walter and his second wife Jacqueline Roque were driven to [self-harm].

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Whether a person tends to focus more on the negative or the positive aspects of someone else’s personality or behavior depends a lot on the context, Prof. Ferguson said; on whether or not the person is primed to be open-minded or suspicious in a particular context.

“For instance, a door-to-door salesperson might prime suspiciousness in a lot of people,” he pointed out. “But, particularly for Americans, our culture is to assume positives of those we meet in casual, non-threatening situations (which may differ from some European cultures).

“Thus we may give people we meet the ‘benefit of the doubt’ and be more easily taken in by charm,” the professor continued, adding that once attitudes form, they can be resistant to change so people may be hesitant to believe the worst of someone they just formed a positive opinion of.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Mark Wahlberg. More recently, he's been claiming that Hollywood is persecuting him for being a Christian, which is why he's decided to move his kids to Nevada. It's pretty ironic for the guy who threw rocks at Black children and beat up Vietnamese people wants to talk about being unfairly targeted.

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Caitlyn Jenner. During the time she was getting person of the year, she killed someone, and was praised for it.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Lame answer, but my mother. She is known by a lot of people in town because she’s a teacher and is part of the theater scene, and people love her. Little do they know that behind closed doors she abuses the s**t out of her children. I ran away when I was 17 because I couldn’t take it, and despite giving the police a s**t ton of proof of what was happening, they couldn’t believe that she was capable of any of that and forced me to go back. Even after kicking me out a few months later while I was still a minor, almost no one thought she did anything wrong. The nicest people hide the darkest s**t

ETA okay this was not what I was expecting. I’m reading all of your comments, and wow. I am so sorry that so many of us have dealt with this. I promise you it does get better over time

As for me, I am doing better. The 11th is three years since cutting her off, and while my life is still really hard, it’s the happiest I’ve ever been.

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In an interview with Bored Panda, another psychology expert, Dr. David Ludden, seconded the idea that shaking a first impression is difficult. “People quickly size up a person they've just met and decide on a quick, intuitive level that this new acquaintance is either good or bad. Once that assessment has been made, people interpret new information about that person in a way that is consistent with their first impression. It can be really hard to change someone's opinion about you after your first meeting with them. That's why first impressions are so important.”

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Ellen DeGeneres. She opened up about how she hated the TV personality outside of the show and hated being around fans who would stop her to do something silly.

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Ephemera Image 5 months ago (edited)

I never got how she was funny? Every snippet I ever saw was of her humiliating someone - in a cutesy 'joking' way of course. I found that repulsive. Even the stars she had on her show were forced to humiliate themselves. A real b***h.

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Rayne OfSalt 5 months ago

She was a stand-up comedian in the 80s, and was genuinely funny at the time.

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Daniel Marsh 5 months ago

Before her sitcom, she did standup comedy with an awkward, nervously shy persona that reminded me much of Bob Newhart, and she was very funny.

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Tiny Dancer 5 months ago

Let's see if this helps. Here's the first time a lot of us older folks remember seeing her, on "The Tonight Show" with Johnny Carson in 1986. She was just another stand-up, still in the closet, and Johnny enjoyed her act so much that he invited her over to the couch. The first woman comic to receive the invite. Not everyone got that privilege! The part of her act here known as "Call To God" is an absolute classic. It came about when an ex-girlfriend of hers was taken out in a car crash. Living in a basement, she spent weeks bothered by why a beautiful young woman was gone but her mattress was still full of fleas. If only you could call God and ask Him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIAAI3j_vsY

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5 months ago

umm she also tend to invade personal space right? I've seen some videos of the show :| and she is always mean to Taylor? and makes celebrities uncomfortable...

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Karen Beresford 5 months ago

i never liked her myself...very smarmmy

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LGBTQpanda 5 months ago

It was terrible when she tried to get Mariah C to admit to pregnancy by asking her to toast with alcohol. If she didn't, she was basically admitting on the talk show and Ellen thought it was funny. Carey miscarried shortly after the interview.

8points

Madam Puddyfoot 5 months ago

I was shocked at how she thought it was funny to scare the daylights out of people on the show. Not funny.

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I just work here 5 months ago

Hated that. My dad traumatized us as kids with that. Got some sick joy out of it.

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Sven Horlemann 5 months ago

No clue how she was able to have a TV career.

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Michael Largey 5 months ago

The bar is very low for that.

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Griffy 5 months ago

At one time, many many years ago, she was funny. Now, I can't stand her.

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Blma1025 5 months ago

Ellen is the WORST. Hope karma gets her.

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GEA 5 months ago

Another US daytime TV host. How do you raise these people up so high?

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Timbob 5 months ago

I have no idea what you’re trying to say !

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Julie S 5 months ago

Is she still on TV in America or has she disappeared with her tail between her legs?

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GalleryCoronado 5 months ago

I always thought of her as mean. She would torture audience/contestants in the water dunking and other antics and would smile with glee. I read she was rough on Anne Heche. I didn't think she was fumny either.

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Tiffany Wilson 5 months ago

She's trying to make a comeback. Has a stand-up comedy show. No thank you.

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Jane Alexander 5 months ago

All I ever knew of her is that she was something I did not want to deal with.

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I just work here 5 months ago

I really liked her up until I saw her intentionally humiliate a fan on her show and that was the last day I ever watched.

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Sonia J-Coffee 5 months ago

Annoying

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Bettye McKee 5 months ago

I have never liked this person. People say, "Oh, because she's gay?" No, that's not it.

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Lil Miss Hobbit 5 months ago

Quick question...who watches her? I am so confused. I never liked her and never met someone who did.

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DC 5 months ago

... likes to live on their dime, still, huh...?

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Brett Favre. People finally figured it out after the welfare thing but he's always been scum. I went to USM (his alma mater) as well as my parents who were there at the same time he was, and every story I heard from locals about him was about him blowing off charity events that he was paid for and smacking his girlfriend in public back in his college days. Apparently he used to get his a*s beat by the locals when they'd see it but he was well into his NFL career before that stopped happening publicly. The man is a menace but people hear that South Mississippi accent and assume he's a nice guy.

Also, just because I feel like there aren't enough people saying it, f**k Michael Vick and anyone who still let's him have any kind of public life.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Barbara Walters her interview with Coery Feldman is disgusting. She knew what Cory was saying was true, and she kept questioning him on it.

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According to Prof. Ferguson, it's important to remember that most people will actively try to hide their negative traits. “That's normal, and nothing to panic about,” he said. “But I suppose the main thing—when being drawn entirely into a person's orbit or worldview—is whether or not there is any possibility that they're profiting from some degree of insincerity and is it making us prone to ignoring some information that should throw up some red flags. There [has to be] a careful balance between being naive and overly suspicious.”

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside John Lennon sang about peace and love and then went home and beat his wife and kid.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside It's finally coming out, but Drake. I’m 30. I can’t imagine wanting to talk to someone underage all the time. I have nothing in common with them, I feel like they’d get annoying (not their faults but they’re young and immature). I mean if I had family that young maybe. But just random teenagers is so strange

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Jared Leto.

For someone who does a month long spirit journey in the wilderness each year, he's a huge piece of s**t.

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Prof. Ludden suggested that the people who could be considered monsters might charm you. “But at the same time, you may get an uneasy feeling about the person,” he added. “Don't dismiss this feeling just because you really want to like this person. You may be picking up on subtle body language cues letting you know this person is not to be trusted.

“I'm also not saying that you should never trust other people. But it is much better to build that trust on an honest, objective assessment of the person rather than a superficial first impression and the halo effect.”

#24

Lizzo. I loved her song "boys" because it was literally just her singing about how she thought dudes were cool, and she doesn't discriminate over size, height, demographic. She seemed cool, and then she turned out to be an a**hole who judged other WOMAN for their size and its like....Lizzo is fat af how can she tell act like that?

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I always knew Will Smith had horrible vibes even before "the slap". Not as bad as others on this list but he seems like a prick.

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Jackie Chan. He confesses a lot in his book (without realizing how much of an a*****e he is, I guess?), abusing his toddler son, etc etc.

And THEN on top of that he's a shill for the CCP. Says s**t like "Chinese people don't deserve freedom". He's from Hong Kong, which is probably a double slap in the face. Even a lot of mainland Chinese people know what the CCP is, but they can't necessarily escape. He's an international star, and decides to say what he does.

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Narendra Modi of India. Despite being praised for economic reform he’s an autocrat at heart.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Oh, yall don't know him but my dad. Absolute scumbag. He's extremely well respected in his field and all of his family adores him. I was a secret child he hid for years. When I was assaulted he blamed me. He made his children lie to their own family about their secret sibling, and he literally sabotaged my career in my 20s. I only found success when I finally went no contact.

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Literally every judge from Sharktank. They scam so many people out of so much money it’s f*****g deplorable.

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My ex-best friend. We were close like sisters. She started living with my fiancé and I. She then started sleeping with my fiancé behind my back and would say stuff like, “sometimes I forget you’re in a relationship.” I of course broke up with my fiancé and ended my friendship with my best friend. They left together and dated for a couple of months before he moved on to the next girl. In the meantime, my ex-friend turned many of our mutual friends against me because I wouldn’t forgive her and she now felt really bad about what she did.

She’s an a*****e. Our mutual friends still think she’s great. At least I figured out who my real friends are.

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Lyndon B. Johnson, I find it hard to believe he is being lionized by the descendants of the people who hated him so much. He was responsible for the deaths of 55,000 Americans and millions in SE Asia, he looked us in the eye and lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident so he could widen the war to fatten his friends.

Now people say "oh but his domestic policy, he gave us Medicare and Headstart", how cheaply he bought you out, he was a war criminal who killed a lot of my friends.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside The Rock/Dwayne Johnson.

I think stuff is just starting to come out since he’s always been super controlling of his public image, but it seems like the guy is a complete and total sociopath.

Edit: I didn’t expect this to blow up. Here’s an article detailing how him and his team have crafted his public image

People have also started to speak up about his bad behavior on set, being late all the time and rude to crew members.

There was the Hawaii b******t with Oprah. There was his handling of Black Adam bombing - also reports of bad onset behavior and mistreatment of others.

“Monster” might be a stretch, but the guy is definitely an a*****e and people are just now finding out. Dude is fake as fake gets.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside John Harvey Kellogg (the cereal guy) was a real piece of work.

TLDR; John Harvey Kellog was the cook, and his brother was the industrialist.
As far as I can remember, the insane brother invented the cereal. The sane brother invented the factory process of making them, and had the idea to cover them in sugar (frosted flakes).
The insane Kellog believed that the default state of man was an apathetic unfeeling void and anything that caused excitement such as good food, warm baths, obviously intercourse for anything other than procreation, was sinful and against God's design. I believe he was also a proponent of yoghurt enemas, which HAS to be a fetish thing, right?

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Dr. Seuss. Cheated on his wife while she was sick, which lead to her [self-harm] then married his affair partner the very next year.

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I think Eddie Murphy #1. Most think he's a cool guy but heard story after story he's mean, hateful, and downright terrible to people.

JLo is mean many stories about her getting people fired and so forth for trivial reasons and belittling the help. Yet she is fairly popular most think she's a decent person.

I am not calling her a monster but most think Jamie Lee Curtis is super cool and would be nice as hell but heard she is actually a snob and cold in person. Which surprised me.

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Ray Lewis

Never understand why people buy into his holier than thou preacher schtick.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside My mom’s old roommate back when I was a kid. Everyone around him to this day thinks he’s a saint but he’s a creep. I was horrified when I learned he has young children.

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40 People Who Seem Great, But Are Monsters Deep Inside Anne Sullivan, AKA Teacher. Despite helping Helen Keller rise above her disabilities, it's well-documented that she often beat Helen (as a means of disciplining her when she was still a "wild" feral child), and colluded with the Kellers in preventing Helen from marrying the man she loved.

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Brad Pitt - reading the account of what happened on the plane between him, Angelina Jolie and their kids is terrifying.

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Alexander Graham Bell. Wanted to eradicate deaf people. Tried to ban ASL. Also he didn’t invent the telephone, it was really an Italian guy. 🤷‍♀️.

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Nathaniel He/Him Cis-Het 5 months ago (edited)

No Mother Theresa? She was a fame whore and a hypocrite who denied patients in her hospitals basic healthcare, when she was ill? The best treatment money could buy. And the money she collected? Instead of spending it on the needy, she hoarded it all like Smaug.

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Poison Ivy/Boo 5 months ago

I was expecting her to show up and surprised when she didn't. Came here to point her out....and you already did, so thanks.

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cugel. 5 months ago

Was thinking guaranteed number 1

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kissmychakram 5 months ago

This, one million times *this*. Terrible human being.

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ॐBoyGanesh 5 months ago (edited)

Came to ask the same question. I’d also add the d**g-addled, plagiarizing, & appropriating, child groomer known as the “King of Rock & Roll.” And on that note, I’d add “The King of Pop,” too. For latter, I was in the same town as the trial during college and got lottery tickets for the courtroom twice. I’m amazed at how much physical evidenced was presented & deemed inadmissible, leaving absolutely no doubt in my mind or anyone else’s that didn’t have to adhere to the narrow scope of evidence that the jury had to use.

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DC 5 months ago

Usually, she's on this list every time. Miss her, too!

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Albert Roberts 5 months ago

It wasn't really a hospital though it was hospice wasn't it? So basically people on their death bed. I think she didn't give them meds and treatment though especially pain meds as I recall. She's gotta get the souls to God asap I guess.

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lauren hughes 5 months ago

She also allegedly thought that suffering brought you closer to God, so she made sure people were in the most amount of distress and pain possible. Also allowed other people to tour the hospital to see those suffering because she thought it was like seeing Jesus on the cross

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Iridian 5 months ago

And supposedly allowed many sick people in her care to suffer to death, because it was somehow unholy to administer to them pain meds for palliative considerations. Apparently, their suffering was sacred to her.

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Brian Hawley 5 months ago

Works the other way round too. I had a theatre friend who worked with Victoria Beckham. She looks like a hard faced b*tch, but she was really nice.

30points

Gavin Johnson 5 months ago

True. Did some work with her and David Beckham at their home in Alderley Edge when he was at Man Utd, both down to earth and decent people, she made a properly decent mug of tea too!

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Belladonna Wexhome 5 months ago

Not Posh - but Gordon Ramsey - absolutely the nicest person I ever met, actually very soft spoken and TALL. and he's interested in what you have to say and he's got a great sense of humor!!

2points

Pandemonium 5 months ago

Yup, she was really kind to me when I was giving her husband soccer lessons. "Head down, knee over the ball Davey."

1point

Jill Rhodry 5 months ago

Also surprised by no Mother Theresa. But I'm in two minds about some of these things - some people, yep truly evil but some are taken out of historical context, not saying what they did wasn't bad but was acceptable at that time - also, I think it's a good lesson it that no-one is all good - having said that, I do believe some people can be all bad - yep, I rambled, trying to process...

26points

Enlee Jones 5 months ago

“I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility,” — John Wayne in a 1971 interview with Playboy magazine

18points

Jessica Bertram 5 months ago (edited)

Oh yeah he was a GIANT POS

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Tracy Sellars 5 months ago

Elon Musk. Called a diving rescuer a pedi all because the rescuer refused to use his tiny sub in a rescue mission. The sub was useless for the mission to save the kids stuck in cave. And apparently pointing out the obvious gave old Elon the right to try and destroy this man's life. He is a nothing but a carpetbagger.

17points

Wintermute 5 months ago

Some of these people are clearly awful, but for some, I think folks are just surprised that celebrities aren't who they want them to be in real life, and then amplify their inequities into scandalous and evil behavior. We obsess over the corporate image of a person, assign it to our own identities, then get upset when we realize that reality is different than our fantasies. A bit absurd to get mad at idols for being actual people.

15points

veirdbuttrue 5 months ago

Great comment!!

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Trev Fontaine 5 months ago (edited)

Only about 2 of these people great called great. Why the f**k are people adding their mates from school or dad to this list

15points

Danni 5 months ago

Where's Edison, that psycho electrocuted animals for his own amusement. he stole half of "his inventions" from people working under him and was just all around a full blown a**hat.

12points

Game Guy 5 months ago

It wasn't for his own amusement, it was to prove that alternating current is more dangerous than the direct current his grid used. Still a scumbag thing to do, but back then the whole "you have dominion over all the animals" thing was taken literally. No one batted an eye at animal abuse. People commonly tied kittens in a bag and drowned them to keep the population down. By the standards of his time, electrocuting animals for business purposes wasn't a wrong thing to do. And btw, if you've ever used makeup, soap, shampoo, medicines or any number of other products, they were tested on animals first, and the testing was not at all pleasant, so the standards still haven't changed much.

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Joyce mann 5 months ago

Left out henry ford, antisemite

11points

Der Kommissar 5 months ago

Ford, Thomas Edison and Charles Lindbergh are 3 peas in a pod

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Mimi M 5 months ago

MLK - laughed while a woman was raped. Those (FBI) tapes are still being suppressed. https://www.businessinsider.com/mlk-jr-rape-allegations-fbi-2019-5

7points

Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo 5 months ago

Thats according to an FBI summary, not a tape the public has heard.

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Alex Sass 5 months ago

This whole thread is vile. Take a person. Explain why they are a monster. Don't meet that person. Follow the media. Society is as unkind as ever. If you don't like someone just switch the channel. Or you know... Turn off the WiFi.

5points

Anony Mouse 5 months ago

Oh - Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. Both crazy old perverts.

4points

Andrew 5 months ago

Arnold Schwarzenegger? I think he was a great governor and actor, but an a*****e as a bodybuilder. He gave other bodybuilders fake advice to give himself an advantage. He also snitched on Tom Platz for his bicep tear in 1982, costing him the Mr. Olympia. He also cheated on his wife and skipped his brother's funeral- both of which can definitely be forgiven, but it still kinda dampens my opinion on him.

3points

Albert Roberts 5 months ago

People do that all the time to competitors and in my experience some martial arts teachers do it too. The former for competitive reasons and the latter as kind of a test of whether you get the underlying principles.

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Leekun 5 months ago

No Ezra Miller?

3points

Penguin Panda Pop 5 months ago

He wasn't in the public eye long enough to be considered a 'hero' before his fall from grace, perhaps?

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Squiffle Noses 5 months ago

I don't think what was' 'acceptable at the time'' makes a blind bit of difference - OK so they were ALL evil pieces of c**p during that period. F them ALL then. That was how they were raised and that is what they were - the test is 'Would you let them help you raise your daughters, and be alone with them, and instill their values, today?'. No of course you bloody wouldn't, they were Shi@!

2points

GalleryCoronado 5 months ago

Think Gavin Newsom needs to be on this list. Charming, handsome destroyer of California and their homeless. Even during COVID, he wanted CA residents to stay home and wear masks and he was in fancy restaurants. He claims he helped the homeless situation but CA hands out POO maps (homeless areas to avoid). He is a horrible leader and if Biden drops out, he could step in. He will kill the country like he did CA. Now many CA residents and movie stars don't like what is happening in CA so they are moving to AZ and TX and voting the same way they did in CA. Does not compute !!

1point

Sprouted Tater 5 months ago

What I think is please do a list of good people who do (did) good things. I’d like to suggest Fred Rogers as an example of goodness. I admire Mr. Rogers way more than most people who are noted/awarded for their (whatever).

1point

Carina Diedericks-Hugo 5 months ago

No Thomas Edison? He stole each and every one of his "inventions".

1point

Albert Roberts 5 months ago

I mean that's what most corporations do now not that it makes it right but alot of that stuff can't be made with out lots of money.

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I just work here 5 months ago

NOBODY SAID ELON MUSK? YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME. WHAT AN ABSOLUTE SHITBAG.

1point

Hmmm hmmmm 5 months ago

I think it's that he doesn't seem great to most people, they know he's awful

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WickedLibra70 5 months ago

Thomas Edison.. electrocuting animals

1point

CG 5 months ago (edited)

Not someone most people here might know, but Jon Jones. Came off as a "God Fearing Man" during his early MMA career, but has racked up a lot of outside cage controversies such as hit and runs, driving while under the influence, domestic abuse, threatening a drúg tester's life (an ongoing case), being homophobic, multiple drúg test fails as a professional athlete, and committing more fouls than he has title defenses. Yet some people still see him as the "greatest of all time". Edited because BP censored the word "drúg".

1point

CG 5 months ago

Another one I forgot to mention. Ducking the younger, more deserving number one contender of his division in favor of an older opponent who hasn't fought in 3 years.

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cerinamroth 5 months ago (edited)

Elizabeth Báthory was a dreadful piece of work, also Georgia Tann. Evil, the both of them. May their names be spat upon.

1point

Hannah Taylor 5 months ago

Tann sounds like she was no different than most of the social workers in my neck of the woods.

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Uncle Schmickle 4 months ago

What about Robert Mugabe ? Killed thousands of his own people simply because they belonged to a different tribal group. Then convinced the indigenous people that white farmers ( who had been farming for generations and employed local people ) stole their land and should be forced out. Some white farmers who didn't leave were murdered. The abandoned farms were taken over by the indigenous people who didn't know how to run them or repair and maintain machinery. Result = famine and more death. Good old Bob Mugabe sure knew how to ruin a country, all the while flying off with his wife overseas in his private jet, for shopping sprees.

0points

Bored Trash Panda 4 months ago

I got one. Jonathan Stewart (football player). He played for the Oregon Ducks before going on the play for the Carolina Panthers. No. 28. Went to the same high school with as him and had friends in "his" crowd. Unless you were a jock or cheerleader, he was a total d**k to you. I almost punched him one time (a friend pulled me away) for some of his assholery. Not sure if he has changed or not in the last 20 years.

0points

Cat_Whisperer 5 months ago

What about Andie McDowell? I’ve heard that she treated others on set like cr@p behind the scenes but she always had a kind “girl next door” persona in movies.

0points

Mandy Delaforce (PC Girl) 5 months ago

Most theatrical "nice" people, aren't . They start to believe their followers.

0points

Albert Roberts 5 months ago

There should be a list of people who are exactly as nice as they claim or seem. My addition would be Ian MacKaye. Always made time for any fan or fanzine (even mine), his band Fugazi refused insane amounts of money during grunge to continue doing their own thing, started a fair to consumers, bands and everyone record label, doesn't mind if you download his music, and more I'm probably forgetting.

0points

Carina Diedericks-Hugo 5 months ago

No Thomas Edison? The stole every single one of his "inventions".

0points

Jp Goat 5 months ago

Nelson Mandela. A terrorist, who bombed shopping centers, killing men woman and children. Then in his laster life considered an activist for peace. Yeah right!

0points

Hmmm hmmmm 5 months ago

People change mate

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Thenatural 5 months ago

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Bexxxx 5 months ago

For my western Canada pandas - You know who’s super nice? Mark Madriga, the Global Vancouver weather reporter. And Ian Hanamansing. Not exactly celebrities but recognized everywhere they go locally and just some really sweet dudes.

0points

Leah C 5 months ago

This was a terribly chosen article.

0points

Doofnuts 5 months ago

Interesting, but some, uhhh, not really smart folks showed up.

0points

Penguin Panda Pop 5 months ago

I always find it interesting that Michael Jackson doesn't make these lists. Even if we ignore the allegations, we still have a long rap sheet of fairly horrible behaviour. Example 1 - he dangled a baby (allegedly his own) from a balcony because it seemed amusing to him. Number 2 - he admitted to sleeping with (next to) children (something Ghandi has rightly been attacked for in this listicle). Number 3 - he preferred to hang out with children (something Drake is questioned for in this list). Number 4 - he somehow managed to spend all the money he made. Number 5 - that godawful comparing himself to Christ performance at the Brits Awards. Number 6 - Earth Song (just terrible, by any metric).

0points

LinkTheHylian 5 months ago

Y'all mf'ers left out Ian Watkins! There are still people who are on that twisted SOB's side!

0points

Haroon Khan 5 months ago

My wife

0points

Edward Luczak 5 months ago

This is just a compilation of twisted and distorted facts in many cases to appease the internet haters. Another c**p story.

-1point

Sherry Diamond 5 months ago

This article is 100% inaccurate!!!! Come on you leftist wanna-be journalists!!!!! If you can’t get the article completed in time at least leave out the blatant lies and falsities. Your information is bogus and complete nonsense!

-2points

Zach Bigalke 5 months ago

John Denver was a total prick.

-2points

Der Kommissar 5 months ago

Everyone acts differently towards different people. I met John Denver once (Hiro Sushi, Santa Monica) and he was perfectly nice.

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Nathaniel He/Him Cis-Het 5 months ago (edited)

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Poison Ivy/Boo 5 months ago

I was expecting her to show up and surprised when she didn't. Came here to point her out....and you already did, so thanks.

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cugel. 5 months ago

Was thinking guaranteed number 1

6points

kissmychakram 5 months ago

This, one million times *this*. Terrible human being.

4points

ॐBoyGanesh 5 months ago (edited)

3points

DC 5 months ago

Usually, she's on this list every time. Miss her, too!

3points

Albert Roberts 5 months ago

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lauren hughes 5 months ago

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Iridian 5 months ago

0points

Brian Hawley 5 months ago

Works the other way round too. I had a theatre friend who worked with Victoria Beckham. She looks like a hard faced b*tch, but she was really nice.

30points

Gavin Johnson 5 months ago

True. Did some work with her and David Beckham at their home in Alderley Edge when he was at Man Utd, both down to earth and decent people, she made a properly decent mug of tea too!

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Belladonna Wexhome 5 months ago

Not Posh - but Gordon Ramsey - absolutely the nicest person I ever met, actually very soft spoken and TALL. and he's interested in what you have to say and he's got a great sense of humor!!

2points

Pandemonium 5 months ago

Yup, she was really kind to me when I was giving her husband soccer lessons. "Head down, knee over the ball Davey."

1point

Jill Rhodry 5 months ago

26points

Enlee Jones 5 months ago

“I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility,” — John Wayne in a 1971 interview with Playboy magazine

18points

Jessica Bertram 5 months ago (edited)

Oh yeah he was a GIANT POS

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Tracy Sellars 5 months ago

17points

Wintermute 5 months ago

15points

veirdbuttrue 5 months ago

Great comment!!

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Trev Fontaine 5 months ago (edited)

Only about 2 of these people great called great. Why the f**k are people adding their mates from school or dad to this list

15points

Danni 5 months ago

Where's Edison, that psycho electrocuted animals for his own amusement. he stole half of "his inventions" from people working under him and was just all around a full blown a**hat.

12points

Game Guy 5 months ago

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Joyce mann 5 months ago

Left out henry ford, antisemite

11points

Der Kommissar 5 months ago

Ford, Thomas Edison and Charles Lindbergh are 3 peas in a pod

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Mimi M 5 months ago

MLK - laughed while a woman was raped. Those (FBI) tapes are still being suppressed. https://www.businessinsider.com/mlk-jr-rape-allegations-fbi-2019-5

7points

Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo 5 months ago

Thats according to an FBI summary, not a tape the public has heard.

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Alex Sass 5 months ago

5points

Anony Mouse 5 months ago

Oh - Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. Both crazy old perverts.

4points

Andrew 5 months ago

3points

Albert Roberts 5 months ago

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Leekun 5 months ago

No Ezra Miller?

3points

Penguin Panda Pop 5 months ago

He wasn't in the public eye long enough to be considered a 'hero' before his fall from grace, perhaps?

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Squiffle Noses 5 months ago

2points

GalleryCoronado 5 months ago

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Sprouted Tater 5 months ago

1point

Carina Diedericks-Hugo 5 months ago

No Thomas Edison? He stole each and every one of his "inventions".

1point

Albert Roberts 5 months ago

I mean that's what most corporations do now not that it makes it right but alot of that stuff can't be made with out lots of money.

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I just work here 5 months ago

NOBODY SAID ELON MUSK? YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME. WHAT AN ABSOLUTE SHITBAG.

1point

Hmmm hmmmm 5 months ago

I think it's that he doesn't seem great to most people, they know he's awful

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WickedLibra70 5 months ago

Thomas Edison.. electrocuting animals

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CG 5 months ago (edited)

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CG 5 months ago

Another one I forgot to mention. Ducking the younger, more deserving number one contender of his division in favor of an older opponent who hasn't fought in 3 years.

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cerinamroth 5 months ago (edited)

Elizabeth Báthory was a dreadful piece of work, also Georgia Tann. Evil, the both of them. May their names be spat upon.

1point

Hannah Taylor 5 months ago

Tann sounds like she was no different than most of the social workers in my neck of the woods.

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Uncle Schmickle 4 months ago

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Bored Trash Panda 4 months ago

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Cat_Whisperer 5 months ago

What about Andie McDowell? I’ve heard that she treated others on set like cr@p behind the scenes but she always had a kind “girl next door” persona in movies.

0points

Mandy Delaforce (PC Girl) 5 months ago

Most theatrical "nice" people, aren't . They start to believe their followers.

0points

Albert Roberts 5 months ago

0points

Carina Diedericks-Hugo 5 months ago

No Thomas Edison? The stole every single one of his "inventions".

0points

Jp Goat 5 months ago

Nelson Mandela. A terrorist, who bombed shopping centers, killing men woman and children. Then in his laster life considered an activist for peace. Yeah right!

0points

Hmmm hmmmm 5 months ago

People change mate

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Thenatural 5 months ago

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Bexxxx 5 months ago

0points

Leah C 5 months ago

This was a terribly chosen article.

0points

Doofnuts 5 months ago

Interesting, but some, uhhh, not really smart folks showed up.

0points

Penguin Panda Pop 5 months ago

0points

LinkTheHylian 5 months ago

Y'all mf'ers left out Ian Watkins! There are still people who are on that twisted SOB's side!

0points

Haroon Khan 5 months ago

My wife

0points

Edward Luczak 5 months ago

This is just a compilation of twisted and distorted facts in many cases to appease the internet haters. Another c**p story.

-1point

Sherry Diamond 5 months ago

-2points

Zach Bigalke 5 months ago

John Denver was a total prick.

-2points

Der Kommissar 5 months ago

Everyone acts differently towards different people. I met John Denver once (Hiro Sushi, Santa Monica) and he was perfectly nice.

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