Every family has their secrets, it's only natural. Some things are just so foul and wrong that they just have to stay in the family. Some of them even go to the grave.

Sharing these dark secrets is very brave, considering the taboo topics that might come up. I ask you, oh brave pandas, to share some of the darkest ones that you have. I put a trigger warning in advance, since I'm aware that some of you might go into some really dark stuff. This thread might not be for the weakest of stomachs.

#1

40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn My father is the youngest of 13 kids. But actually my grandparents only had 9 kids. Grandpa ran a farm and had a truck to deliver the produce from his and the surrounding farms. During WW2 he drove to Amsterdam to deliver food and secretly brought back Jewish boys. He hid them on his farm pretending they were his kids. Partially very nice of him, but he also just needed extra hands to work. After the war most of the boys went home to family members, but 4 of them had no remaining family. He officially adopted those 4 boys and just went on as if they had always been part of the family.

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40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn My uncle had always been a raging alcoholic. A dangerous alcoholic. Well, my aunt married him anyways. They went to Germany for their honeymoon. Only he returned. We asked about the aunt and he pretended like he had no idea what we were talking about and how he has "never gotten married".

About five years later he married again despite us all trying to tell the woman not to. They went to Jamaica for their honeymoon. Same thing. He came back without her. Again pretended like he's never married. We began suspecting he was k***ing them. We called the police. They investigated. Nothing turned up. And then the years later, he married again. But COVID happened and they haven't gone on a honeymoon.

We're not sure she'd believe us if we told her. So we have distanced ourselves from my uncle and he remains as the secret we don't talk about. We don't talk about Bruno type situation.

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40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn Trigger warning! VERY dark!

My mother and my father started dating when they were just 18.
My mother got pregnant soon after.
My grandmother made my mom ingest large doses of quinine every day (which is a big health risk by itself!), and inserted a small plastic item in her uterus.
This led - as planned- to a late miscarriage on the toilet when my mom was about 20 weeks pregnant.
The baby boy was alive and „as big as a doll“ (quoting my mother).
She k***ed and dismembered the fetus and flushed the parts down the toilet.
Then she went back to sit at the table with the guests they had that day to have coffee and later dinner.
My mom grew to be as cruel and cold as her own mom.
She did something similar to me, when I was just 15 and unfortunately got pregnant.
She and a gynecologist told me the baby was sick, and the pregnancy had to be terminated.
I believed them.
A few days later I had to go there, to get the abortion. My mom gave me an envelope with about (converted) 8000$.
The abortion was performed without any kind of local anaesthesia.
I lost consciousness a few times, they fastened me to the gyn chair.
Part of my soul will stay there forever.
The doctor forced me to take a good look at the destroyed embryo „so that I would never do what I did again!“
When I came home traumatized and in shock, my mom said, that „I should pull myself together and that she had suffered so much more!“
Then she told me her abortion story.
I wish she never had told me.
Years later, when we had a fight, she dropped that my baby had been absolutely healthy.

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40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn At twenty-one, when I asked my mother why I had no siblings, she confided that I had actually been born a twin and my brother had died because I "choked him" with my umbilical cord. She said I must never tell anyone or mention it to my father because he was still upset "that it was the boy who had died". I had wanted a brother or sister all my life so was deeply sad and felt incredibly guilty to the point where I unsuccessfully attempted to end my life. (There was other stuff going on too - death of my boyfriend of five years - so I was already in a dark place.)

Years later when I was carrying my own twins I began to realise that parts of her story seemed unusual and looked into my birth records. And here's the darkest bit - it turns out there never was a twin. I never confronted her.

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40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn My cousin is really my sister. My Aunt and Uncle couldn't have kids so my parents did for them.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, they were supposed to tell her and didn't. She is the only one that does not know. I feel bad but it isn't my place.

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Paul Beebe
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Polynesia and most Pacific Islands this is called Hanai. My Sister in law's first husband was shooting blanks and so her brother and sis in law, who were having lots of kids, decided that they would give her their next baby. She is my niece, but 2 years younger than me and she knows the whole story. Islanders created an awesome way to fix a sad situation.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Besides feeling bad about that she doesn't know about, how do you feel about having a cousin sister ? Hiw old is she ? When i read your story it sounds like a beautiful lovely kind thing your parents did. Sorry for all the questions, but normally posts are feom other websites and we have no chance to speak with authors.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She is 24. Unfortunately they do not really get together unless it is a major holiday so I don't really get to see her. I am close with my brothers and sister and would have most definitely would have loved to have that bond with her. I think if she knew she would have made more of an effort to see us. Also, my Dad passed away and they didn't come to the hospital, funeral or the wake so she never got to say goodbye or ever even get to know to my Dad which really upsets me.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My uncle (who is now 90) was raised by his grandma, who he thought was his mother. His "much older sister" was actually his mother. Apparently, this happened a lot in those days, particularly if it was out-of-wedlock. ("Mother" would go away with "teenage daughter" for a few weeks/months, and come back with "her new baby". Sometimes, she would pretend to be pregnant herself, for that whole time, so that nobody would suspect).

MellonCollie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why would you want to keep that a secret? It's a beautiful thing to help another couple to have children.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, they were supposed to tell her and didn't. She is the only one that does not know. I feel bad but it isn't my place.

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sister-cousins... beware banjo country

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#6

40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn It’s actually f*cking awesome. Grandfather's great aunt by marriage ran the most notorious brothel in Sydney and had a lifelong feud with another brothel owner. She did go to the other madam's funeral when she died, but as reported by the newspaper “just to make sure the old b***h stays in the ground”. The whole feud started over a dog breeding scam! RIP Tilly Devine

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm having trouble regarding a brothel as 'awesome', as you never know under what circumstances the workers had to do their jobs, but I guess it is a cool story :)

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40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn If you met my dad, you’d think he was a soft faced and gentle old doctor and a pretty cool guy for acting young, being a good father, living to fish and drink beer, and being willing to build you a deck. You’d think he loved God by the way he talks.

Well, he’s a p***phile who spent my childhood grooming me. He exposed himself at me every day when I was little, and got unusually jealous whenever I showed a little skin in public as a teenager. The way he hugged and kissed me was creepy, and I was afraid to say no. He told me my developing body was making me more likely to be “sold into white slavery and a** r*ped” and that I’d be r*ped by strange men if I showed my shoulders or danced. Yeah, he was racist and sexist. And as a young adult who still didn’t understand, he apologized convincingly, then began using me to emotionally cheat on the wife he hates, treating me like a girlfriend. And then he’d try controlling me financially when I lost my job.

He also beat, intimidated, and controlled my mother, who then took out her frustration on me. She told me I was ugly every chance she got. He told everyone that she was the crazy one. He wouldn’t let her have a job. He was verbally, emotionally, psychologically, financially, and sexually abusive to an extreme level, to the point I developed DID and nearly 60 alters as a result of how he treated all of us.

When his wife got into an affair with a man who gave her a little escape, he cheated in revenge with a woman who had the same name as himself. Textbook narcissist womanizer. Then he cheated with a woman who was hideous, just because pitying her made him feel better about himself. Being her “hero” made him feel better about himself. She was none the wiser that it wasn’t her he was cheating for. He blamed my mother for the entire divorce.

My mother wasn’t innocent, either. She brainwashed me like the fricken winter soldier. Used me as a weapon in the divorce. I really thought it was my fault. So I falsely confessed the divorce was my fault. As if a thirteen year old with autism could be a proficient manipulator. And he never stopped hating me. I was already the black sheep, but now it was so much worse. He often called me by my mother’s name when angry. He k***ed my pets on purpose. He kept buying pets, waiting for me to get attached, and then k***ed them. Over a hundred of them. I eventually stopped getting attached. I had nobody. When I finally understood that I was being mocked by my friends at school, I was alone. I cut everyone out to protect myself, and spent six years in isolation. He blamed me for all the bullying. Daily, he would say things so vile and cruel that I had to dissociate. When I told the school counselor I was s*****al, he showed up all goody two shoes to fix his reputation, and then when I got home, he called me things I wouldn’t repeat, and his new wife called me a traitor.

His second wife had a vile, mannerless, cruel son, and I had to come home to the school bully every day. He and his two brothers would gang up on me. Then the kid did something messed up on a whole different level. He and his brothers cornered me in the garage. He did the unpardonable sin, and led the other two to do it, too. Basically eternal murder-s**ide before my eyes. He was disappointed when I wouldn’t follow suit. But basically, I’ll never have a brother in heaven, which is my waking nightmare.

When I found Christ, my parents became more and more cruel, and I just tried to be a good child despite it. When he wasn’t preoccupied with making my life a living hell, he just drank a lot of alcohol and avoided me. When he felt guilty, he’d buy gifts I don’t want I at of be there for me, listen to me, or God-forbid apologize. I suffer from DID, PTSD, self loathing, depression, anxiety, anger issues, social anxiety, avoidant personality disorder, and chronic insomnia. Nobody believed me or tried to save me for 21 years. So I cut him out, but he still harasses me. I wish I was never born.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Trash Panda, I'm deeply sorry to read your story. If I had the power I would fly to you right now, take you in my arms and HUG you with all my might. I Want you to know that all the terrible things that have happened are NOT YOUR FAULT. You are lovely and beautiful and kind and caring. I love you and if you need to talk I'm here for you. HUGS and a big kiss from me (and they are Auntie Caro Hugs and Kisses).

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40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn My grandfather, my Mom's Dad, was in the Merchant Marines in the 40's during WW2. He started out sailing the Atlantic but in the last 2 years they switched him to the Pacific.


It turns out that he was actually honorably discharged in July, 1945 and NOT November, 1945 like he'd told everyone.


He stayed in California for 4 months, unbeknownst to anyone, with a couple of buddies and crashed with them. To earn extra money to bring home, he made 3 porn movies. He was 32-33 at the time, a big, robust, good looking man.


He was married to my grandmother already and my Mom wasn't born until 1947, so they were childless still.


We never found any of this out until 1984, when my Dad got a hold of some VHS vintage porn from the 40's and watched it with my Mom. Back in those days (40's), even before and after, one of the common tricks they used was to make the participants wear half-masks to try and conceal identity.


My Mom recognized him right away though, despite the mask. He had a very distinctive tattoo on the inside of his lower left forearm, a specific birthmark on his lower right hip (which I have too) and also a jagged scar on his lower right calf from when he got hit by shrapnel on an Atlantic ship that had taken some hits but hadn't sank and limped to port years earlier.


A buddy of his was still alive at the time (1984) and still living in California, so my Mom got in touch. Sure enough, the friend (in his 70s) confirmed it and told her about the 3 movies. He starred in them himself and eventually sent her copies of the other 2 films.


In the other 2, he had brief speaking roles and she identified his voice along with the other body ID markers. My grandfather died in 1969, and my grandmother in 1983. According to my Mom, she was sure no one had any clue.


The money my grandfather earned helped to pay off the only car they had at the time and the rest helped to reestablish their nest egg.

So yeah, there's that one. I still have the VHS tapes but don't have a player anymore. I've never watched them, just kept them. Still don't know if I want to watch, LOL.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't watch them. A: it would ruin those memories of love for him and B: it's pørn. Why would anyone want to watch that.

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#9

40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn My mom's brother and her dad secretly don’t like her but its sad because she loves them so much

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#10

40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn That I was s**ually a***ed for many many years by an uncle. When I finally worked up the courage to tell my mother, I was forced to keep it a secret so my grandmother wouldn't know the horrible thing her son had done. I'm still holding onto this to this day.

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Lisa Reuss
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wondering why sexual assault is asterisked out like it’s a cuss word or shameful. That’s nonsense. We keep distilling rape down to something the victim should be ashamed of, punishing her for being raped, to the point that we can’t even write out the words?? Absurd.

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40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn My stepdad was a known p***phile. He had more than one teen boy he “took in” and slept with in his bed, for years. He kissed me with tongue once when I was about 8. He used to watch my sister and I bathe, staring at us creepily. To this day my mom denies he was a p***phile despite what I’ve told her and the whole community believes. Also, my uncle k***ed a man.

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40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn My grandmother on my mom's side might be the s**ttiest person I've ever met. She treats me like c**p because I'm a teenager, a girl, and I remind her of my mom who she also tends to treat like c**p. She caused my uncle's divorce because she MOVED IN with him and his then wife because she's a hoarder and can't even live in her house anymore. She's completely ruined my youngest cousin and now he worships her in such a creepy way. She's also racist, homophobic, sexist, anti-vax, etc. I just hate her. And we can't find a way to cut ties because when we're in her state she finds a way to figure out that we're there and guilts my parents into visiting. I hate her so much.

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40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn I thought my dad had died but apparently he sent me away because I was born with a hearing problem and I wasn't perfect enough for him. I also didn't know I had a sister until four years ago, because my father decided that because my older brother was born, dear old dad could send my sister and I away, putting us both up for adoption. My mom got in the way though and managed to claim me, but I only recently got in touch with my sister and oldest brother, as we all met at Dad's funeral after he passed from cancer. I'm not sad that he's gone, but I don't hate him. He hated me, but I don't have a reason to hate him. I'm not sad though.

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40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn My uncle suffered from head trauma after falling off a skyscraper during work, it messed him up really bad and led to him turning to hard drugs.
He was mixing coke with PCP behind the family's back.
Well, one day when his soon to be be ex wife stopped by to talk to him about their 4 kids, he jumped into her car before she had a chance to remove her seat belt and stabbed her to death over 36 times.
Afterward, he walked back into his apartment where his brother was and told him to call 911 cuz he just k***ed the monster that was gonna take his kids from him

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's extremely sad to have happened to their children. For their father to take their mother away from them in that manner, and then I would assume, go to prison for a long time. It would have been so devastating as well for her parents to lose their child. I hope her children are doing okay.

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My Dad is a Sex Offender. The story he gave us was full of holes and the real story was revealed after my husband and I tried to adopt. He had attacked 2 women on two separate occasions. We have been no contact ever since and have been unable to adopt.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's very sad that someone else's life choices are going to prevent you from being a parent to a child who needs one. It's disgusting that he's still manipulating people to get what he wants out of life and has no concern for his family members. That is the nature of this type of people.

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40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn My cousin married a serial k***er, she had 2 boys with him and he tried to k*** one of them.

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The story as I was told is this... My grandmother, my mom's mom, came from a very poor family, and they lived away from town. She was asked to babysit, at the age of 15, by a couple from town. The "husband" picked her up, drove further into the country and r**ed her. It said that my great grandmother, after finding out what had happened to her daughter, tracked the man down and gutted him with a kitchen knife. My grandmother got Justice through her mother. The saddest part of the story, my grandmother had a baby from this r**e. The baby girl was adopted by a couple they we're acquainted with and my grandmother was able to visit her daughter until she was around three or four years old. Im told the couple thought she was too close to the little girl and they up and moved away without telling anybody where they were going. My grandmother was an alcoholic most of her life due what had happened to her, but she always wanted to find her daughter. My mother being an "only" child , so she thought until about age 12 when one of her cousins blurted out that her mother was r**ed and had a baby. Which was rather devastating to my mom as well. My grandmother's has an identical twin. Her twin continued to look for her daughter up until she passed away. The daughter, my mom's sister, would be in her '80's now My mother also looked for her prior to her passing 17 years ago. If only the internet was a bigger better thing back then she would probably have found her quickly and could have possibly had a relationship with her. So that's the family secret. Very few know about what my grandmother did or about the baby. Only my grandmother's sisters knew.

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40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn My childhood home burnt down in 2009, when I was 8 years old, and my whole family knows the truth about what really happened that day... Let's say the fire was unaccidentaly accidental...

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Only a secret to me, because my whole family knew. My mom had been married before she met my father. When she got pregnant, they married and moved away so she could tell people that 9lb me was born prematurely. She never wanted me to know that she'd been married before, or that she was pregnant before she married my dad. I was raise to think divorce and pre-marital sex were wrong, period. Everyone kept her secret from me until after my parents passed away. I found the marriage license when cleaning out the house, and the date had been visibly altered. Then I was accidentally told about the first marriage by a cousin who assumed that I must have already been told (I was 41 years old by then). I had come to suspect that she lied about their wedding date, but I had zero idea about the first marriage.

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Anna Chen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's so sad. She let her own shame and embarrassment muddle the integrity of the one she had with you.

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My grandfather on my dad's side was one of the guards responsible for keeping the little rock 9 out of school, yet because he died when my dad was at a young age practically everyone in my dads side of the family consider him a hero. Another really messed up part of my dads side is the fact that they are all racist homophobes and my grandmother on my dads side talked about how she would punt stray cats. I don't like my dads side and try to avoid talking about them.

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Priscilla Reshell
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who the hell would hurt a poor kitty? I'm glad you're not in touch they seem horrible

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I met my bio father in 2008. We met in person twice. We lived in different states. Met my 3 half sisters and 2 half brothers. We talked on the phone and wrote often. One day the calls stopped. Found out he was in prison for sexually abusing a few of his grandkids. I waited about 2 years to decide to write him. The day I went to look for the address to the prison I found his obituary and his funeral was that same day.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry, it's unfortunate that you can't be heard for the things that you might have needed to say and that opportunity is gone. You could possibly try writing it all down, taking it to his grave, reading it there, and burning it. It might give you a little bit of comfort.

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#22

So I know this isn't as good (or bad?) as some of the other stories but a few generations back two brothers fought over the civil war and never talked again. A few years later, a girl from the confederate side of the family and a boy from the union side met at a lets-forgive-and-forget-but-I-still-hate-you type family gathering. They fell in love and started a family (keep in mind they're some kind of cousins or something). Fast-forward a few generations and I'm named after that girl.

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Caro Caro
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not very dark ... I think it's romantic even. So you're a direct descendant ?

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40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn It’s not actually disturbing or anything but somehow the fact my great gran got admitted to a psyche ward because she became s*****al has become something no one talks about. She died 5 or so years ago and I only found out this year that 20 years ago she was admitted for a few months and both my mum and gran are really ashamed of this fact.

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Caro Caro
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's sad. Nothing to be ashamed about. My mum was going though a crisis and went to a psyche home for a month and it helped her a lot. Hugs Spinachpuffs.

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#24

40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn Take your pick: The murderer, the murderer who got away, or the one who a***ed children to death (murdered) without suspicion.

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Caro Caro
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Jesus Leo. I can't pick and am not sure I want to know. I sincerely hope you are ok tho. Maaaaan, these stories make me realize how good I had it and I thought I had sh!t to deal with but no, the postings here are truly sad and horrible. I'm sending you a Hug and a big sloppy Caro kiss. You know the one, they take your breath away ... those. X

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40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn The darkest secret our family has is a few streaks of alcoholism here and there and the fact that we're so boring that we don't have dark secrets.

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40 Family Secrets These People Did Not Expect To Learn Quite some secrets here.
- My mom and her sisters were a***ed by the same uncle when they were little. No one believed my mom when she spoke back in the day, and her sisters never said anything until last year, I think.
- My grandad from my mom's side was a alcoholic and a violent person. He hit my grandma A LOT, and also hit my uncles when they were little. Everyone in town knows him as a great and kind person, and the greatest friend.
- We don't know who my dad's father is. My grandma never said a word, never will. The man I call my grandpa on his side doesn't Even look like him. Other people know who my bio grandad is, but no one seems to remember the name. Also my dad doesn't care so idk who my actual grandad is and probably will never know.
- Word says my grandad from my dad found his wife sleeping with this other man and set her on fire, leaving her a huge very visible scar on her belly, chest and neck, almost to her face. He denies it all.
There's more, but it's getting quite long, so I'll leave it at that. Quite the family.

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There are really two......my old man was a sociopath, closet p***phile with a sadistic streak......when my maternal grandfather dies he persuaded my maternal grandmother to move in with us, sold her house and pocketed the lot. Charged her rent from her pension and treated her abysmally. When she was 82 he left a note on the kitchen table telling her to be out of his house by the time he got home from work, THAT day. All because supposedly she had omitted to pass on a phone message.

He was a complete a'hole whom I hated with a passion and I'm glad he is gone.

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Caro Caro
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Goodness, what a rotten thing to do.. I can understand why you're glad he's gone. Are you ok?

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I am my family's darkest secret.
1. My birth mother was a teenager who became pregnant by her high school History teacher. I was put up for adoption and never spoken of again.
2. My adoptive mother and I lived with her father. I was told my father was dead, having been k***ed in the war. That was untrue. He left us when I was a toddler to start another family in the next town over.
I did not find out about any of this until after my adoptive mother died. I was 32.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's incredibly sad. I hope that you're doing well considering the information that you've been dealing with. Gentle hugs.

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I was raised by my mom, no dad in the picture. When I was a teenager, I guess my dad reached out to my mom to have contact with us (my brother and I). My mom asked us first if we wanted that, and my brother did, so I also agreed even though I didn't really care.

Well right before we met him for the first time, my mom told us that he was married when they were dating. He was cheating on his wife with her. I apparently have two half siblings, one is older than my brother and the other was born between me and my brother. (I still don't know if my mom knew about the wife while she was dating my dad.)

We stopped having contact with my dad only three months after starting contact. My brother invited him to his football game, but he didn't show up. I hate my dad for disappointing because my brother because he really wanted it to work out and to have a father.

I should note that I found out my brother asked my mom for my dad's contact information when my brother's wife was pregnant. He told my mom he wanted to see if there were any health problems on that side of the family that he should be worried about due to the pregnancy. My mom is pretty sure he just wanted to tell his dad that he was having a kid.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's sad that your dad hasn't made himself a part of yours and your brother's lives. It's even more sad that he probably won't care that your brother is having a child. Men like this are a piece of garbage.

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My grandparents met and married within 7 days; my grandma already had my mom at that point (from a r**e, she was only 16). A few years and 2 more daughters later, they divorce and she moves away and meets a man, who we'll call Tom, and marries him. About a year later, she leave him for my grandfather and they remarry. Now when she left Tom his own mother tells him she got in a car accident and died. Fast forward about 30 years an my grandmother applies for social security and they tell her, "oh, you're last name is so and so." She responds, no, my last name is "this." Nope, sorry ma'am, our records indicate your last name is so and so. She does a little sleuthing and finds Tom. She speaks with Tom's wife who tells her what Tom's mother said and so he never divorced my grandma. She also told my grandma that he never got over her and she wasn't going to mention this to him. My grandma said, "well, you're not really married to him, I am, so unless you want me back in your life, you'll get this taken care of PDQ." So, she got a divorce and married my grandpa for a 3rd time. When we had a family meeting for them to tell us, their 3 daughters and grandkids cracked up laughing, but my grandparents didn't think it was funny.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where in the hexx would Tom have been, to believe his wife had a car accident and died but he never saw any proof of any of this, and willfully believe it? This sounds like madness to me. I wouldn't give up without seeing my husband, dead body, accident report, casket, grave, headstone, ashes, receipts, death certificate, or some proof of something. I would never walk in my house and be told by anyone that my spouse died and just sit down and say okay, tomorrow's a new day. Someone would have to drug me and knock me out or tie me down to keep me from trying to figure out what happened. Sounds like someone lied on Tom's mother and Tom nor your grandma neither one thought it was very important to get a divorce. It wasn't all Tom's fault, women can and should file for divorce too, before they get married.

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#31

Not really a secret as she had no trouble telling everyone, but my mom wanted to k*** me and my brother and “bury em in the backyard” so there’s that

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Brittany, what a horrible thing to hear as a child. I hope you are ok. Hugs Honey.

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#32

My grandpa's brother on my mom's side who I grew up knowing as a nice man that I called Uncle Bill. He had an inappropriate sexual relationship with a distant cousins young daughter and got her pregnant. He told her to tell everyone she didn't know who the father was. She slept over their house frequently for some reason and she gave birth in their basement and he tossed the baby into the furnace.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Omfg! What fresh hêll is this! I hope this man is under a prison somewhere or in general pop, maybe even on death row. I hope this young lady is going to be okay and gets the help she needs.

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#33

Not really a secret, but we are related to Americas first serial k***er, Boone Helm

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#34

3 half siblings from Dad (older than us )but named the same as my brother and two sisters,

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's after a DNA test and them coming forward,very weird meeting half siblings that have the exact names,he never acknowledged them .maybe he called us by their names as not to be confused or let his secret out..even our mother didn't know

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#35

It is known that I suffer from depression and I am on antidepressants. But what i have not told anyone is that the antidepressants have not worked as they should and that I've tried taking my own life several times so far this year

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hope you're talking to your doctors & therapists about them not working anymore. Not all kinds work for everybody and some just stop working after awhile, so it often takes experimentation on types & dosages. And if you're afraid the doctor or therapists will report any of that info to people you don't want knowing, it's time for a new one.

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#36

A person in our family has committed multiple felonies and crimes (none of physical violence). Due to therapy, financial wealth, and cunning secretive behavior, they have never had to pay the price for their actions.

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#37

Me. I'm the first one in the family to have gone to prison.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Im the first in my family to NOT go to jail or prison and the hate I get from that is INSANE

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#38

Buckle up, we're about to go on a crazy ride. First thing first, this was a secret only hidden from me.

A few decades ago, I met someone who seemed like the perfect match for me. We clicked so well, it almost seemed that we were destined for each other. We had several mental issues. It caused some strain, however we helped each other pull through it and we progressed further than anyone would've thought. At first, I took her mom's lead when things went bad (she had schizophrenia, bipolar and OCD). I thought sedating her was a simple way out. So, I tried talking her through it. Sedating her was a last resort for me. The more that happened, the better it got. Her Mom was told that she would never be able to live on her own and bought an apartment building, so she would have some illusion of Independence. However, the more I worked with her, you couldn't see a trace of any serious mental illnesses. The honeymoon period wore off. Honestly, I think I felt it earlier. But, I thought it would be too devastating for her to lose the relationship. I took some soul searching and remembered why I feel in love with her in the first place. It worked in a hundred fold. A couple years later, she felt that. Broke it off, with very few regrets (& not even giving a chance to rethink it). My little brother had a crush on her from his early teen years. He thought I didn't deserve her. He never saw her at her worst and thought she was always at her best (though, I don't mean anything negative for her at these points). Now, here's where it becomes relevant to this post. He started dating her. That information was kept from me for a couple years. I had some suspicions, but no answers. It was usually brought up in a side note, but carefully covered. I didn't know for sure until one of my friends asked me if we were on good terms (my brother and me). Now, I do feel bad, but I take some pleasure in this. Without the constant care, she has reverted back to where she was. Also, my brother can be on the selfish side, he left her.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Edit: to clarify the honeymoon period was around 3-4 years. This was a long term relationship. Rereading it I thought it sounded like a light fling.

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#39

Back story: Around 9 is when I started to be embarrassed about my dad. He’s an elder Boomer. I’m a younger GenX. My dad grew up posh and proper but moved us to the states when I was a toddler. Life is just more casual here. He was forever on my brother and I about one thing or another regarding to our appearance. My parents are both from families of 5 and one of my aunts married an American so that’s one of the reasons we ended up moving here. So I have 5 cousins in town and one I’ve always been closer to but she’s six years older than I am. My mum says of the 15 grandkids in my generation, my dad has always had a soft spot for her. For instance, in her 20’s she becomes pregnant and my dad gave her a car for her and the baby to be safe and not have to ride public transport, which is s**t here anyway.

So when I as about 22 my mum and I were in NYC and having lunch one day. I haven’t a clue as to how the subject came up but my mom tells me this story. Now, when this horrific thing happened I was about 8 or 9. My cousin was 14, freshman in high school and from a strict religious household. Her boyfriend and his friends tied her up and they all r**ed her. I had no idea. My mum was shocked by that, I was so little though. But she says, “didn’t you ever wonder what happened to the one motorcycle?” No, I was a kid. Things came and went all the time. So, we had these very good family friends and we lived a block or so away from each other and were in and out of each other’s houses all the time. This man, friend of the family friend, was an enforcer in the mob. He said to my dad “you give me that motorcycle and I’ll take care of it.” My eyes were bugging out of my head as my mom finished the story. Every single one of those boys found themselves with broken arms or legs. My dad basically gave the orders to have some street justice done. All for the low, low price of a motorcycle.

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#40

this isnt as bad as everyone else's, but my families biggest secret is that i'm gay. I like girls. I have a girlfriend.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's your business to come out when you're ready and if they are keeping this quiet out of respect for you then fine. If it's out of shame then they should be ashamed of treating you like this. When you love your child you want them to be happy, it doesn't matter what sex the person is that they find love with, being happy does..

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#41

My great grandfather was a bit of a dog. He met and married my great grandmother in South Dakota, they had 6 children, 4 boys and 2 girls. After
about 15 years, (not too sure exactly, but my great uncles were teenagers)
his first wife found him. Turns out he was a bigamist, just up and left his first
family and started another. His wife threatened to label my great grandmother a w**re if he didn't come home. The story is that she had $$$. (This was maybe 1930's???) so he walked out on great grandma Serena, leaving her young teenage sons to find a way to support their mom and siblings. The 3 oldest dropped out of school and somehow ended up working on one of the government programs instituted during the depression, learned how to operate roadbuilding equipment and worked on projects from Montana to California, where they settled. At some point in the 50's they managed to locate their father, who on opening his door, looked at them, and said:"You aren't getting any of my money" and shut the door.
The interesting thing is that after doing DNA for Ancestry.com, I was contacted by someone who also descended from the old reprobate. I guess he couldn't change his ways, started another family on the side and we are both trying to find out more about Emil Zacharias.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So sorry for you, your family, and the many other people that your narcissistic douchebag of a great grandfather used and abused for his selfishness.

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#42

Well…oh man…Biggest is from my Dad’s side of the family, which partly explains why my grandmother is mean to my mother sister, and me. There was an uncle she knew growing up, who would molest her cousins at night. Nobody did anything about it, which might have influenced why she acted so weird to my dad and his siblings as kids. I know she is almost near the end of her life, but that doesn’t excuse the s**t she put my family through emotionally. If there is a case of generational-trauma, mine is up there!

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#43

When I was little, my step-grandmother used to get handwritten letters in the mail sometimes. I never thought much of it. Turns out- her uncle was one of 4 people who bombed a prominent African American church and k***ed 4 little girls in the 60s. It was a major catalyst for the Civil rights movement in the US and something I had read about multiple times in history books and never knew.
The story goes that he evaded capture for a long time, but bragging about it at a family reunion caused someone to finally turn him in.
He's dead now and good riddance. I have no idea if my grandmother ever answered any of his letters.

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#44

My uncle’s son molested me as a very young child. I’ve never had the heart to tell my family, although my mother knows. I haven’t seen him in years. Now that I have my own daughter I’ll never leave her alone with any older male.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm so sorry this happened to you and I understand how you feel about your daughter. I hope that you and your daughter have the best life has to offer.

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#45

Over the years, my dad frequently shared a comment his father made that my dad/mom's marriage wouldn't last two months. Never understood why. They were together 71+ years until mother's passing. Dad passed a year later.

In a conversation with my aunt (mother's sister) at the family gathering after Dad's funeral, the subject of their courtship came up. My aunt shared that mother and dad met about three days before running off to get married.

Mind you, they married just after WWII in the Pacific ended.

They never shared this with any of we three children and it was a bit of a surprise. Of course, it wasn't a question either of us asked!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After my husband and I got married, we found out that some of our so-called friends had a bet that our marriage wouldn't last a year and a betting pool on when we would separate. (We are quite different and got engaged very quickly.) Funny thing is we are still going strong 29+ years later and many of these so-called (EX) friends are now divorced!

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#46

Brought to the house at two months as a foster child and not told until I was 18 years old.

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#47

My cousin might be my brother. My dad has slept with both his brothers wife and my mum's step mum. Also my dad named me after one of his girlfriends.

Me, my sister and our two cousins all know this but none of my mum's sisters know. Also my dad doesn't know we know either. Once my cousins got drunk and decided the next day to drive like 200 miles demanding to get a DNA test from their dad (my uncle) to straighten things out.

They called me half way there and I was in therapy at the time so I just called my mum. She talked to them both and changed their minds, cause of everyone she's the most level headed (and hurt the most from all this). They arrived in their home city, got drunk again and drove back the next day.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This sounds very traumatic for you, your mom, and your cousins, I'm very sorry for all that you're going through. It sounds like your cousins are having a lot of difficulty surrounding who their biological father may be, and may need some guidance from a therapist if possible. It puts too much pressure on you and your mom to try to de-escalate them when they're having reckless behaviors and being very vulnerable and emotional. It seems like it's only a matter of time before they get DNA tests done. They deserve to know who their father is, even if it disrupts the family. It doesn't sound like your mom wanted to turn them around to protect the victims in this situation, because you all are the victims and you already know, and no one is protecting them. Protecting secrets doesn't help anyone in the long run. Be a advocate for your cousins if you can. They are hurting too. And stay in therapy, process your feelings, sending hugs.

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#48

One branch of the family immigrated from France in the late 1920s. Part of the family stayed in France. One of that part of the family collaborated with the Nazis in WW2. And I don't mean just kept his head down and didn't make waves. I mean actively participated in rounding up people for the camps.


We know he fled to Spain under a fake name after the D-day invasion, but from there the trail went cold. The French authorities think he went on to Portugal and maybe Brazil. At any rate no one's ever found him.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WOW. I don't really know how to respond. Shame this person couldn't be found. Many fled to South America (lots are in Agentina).

#49

My dad smoked drugs when i was 9-12 im 14 now and i think i
he might still do it

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#50

I was raised by my mom, no dad in the picture. When I was a teenager, I guess my dad reached out to my mom to have contact with us (my brother and I). My mom asked us first if we wanted that, and my brother did, so I also agreed even though I didn't really care.

Well right before we met him for the first time, my mom told us that he was married when they were dating. He was cheating on his wife with her. I apparently have two half siblings, one is older than my brother and the other was born between me and my brother. (I still don't know if my mom knew about the wife while she was dating my dad.)

We stopped having contact with my dad only three months after starting contact. My brother invited him to his football game, but he didn't show up. I hate my dad for disappointing because my brother because he really wanted it to work out and to have a father.

I should note that I found out my brother asked my mom for my dad's contact information when my brother's wife was pregnant. He told my mom he wanted to see if there were any health problems on that side of the family that he should be worried about due to the pregnancy. My mom is pretty sure he just wanted to tell his dad that he was having a kid.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can understand the disappointment. Sometimes you want to be a family with all the members around you.

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#51

My Great Uncle was a shady dude. He did some driving for the Krays to begin with, then he started working with Ronnie Biggs. My Uncle was a Cockney, like all my family. In June 1963, my Great Aunt arrived out of the blue to visit my Nan, who was her Sister in Law. When she arrived she was anxious, and Nan was worried about her. Tommy could be nasty. Before my grandparents left London after the 50's smog, my Nan often had their sons around for dinner, because Tommy was also incredibly tight with money. There was often no food. He didn't want her working, but he didn't want to give her a household "allowance" either.
Anyway, that wasn't it. In the end, my Nan just told her to out with it, because she just wouldn't say. She said that there's a few day, coming up in August, and could they, possibly, say that the family had visited them in Stevenage for this particular period, from the Wednesday to the Sunday. Nan asked if they were coming to stay, Lil said no. My Nan asked what my Granddad had said, her brother, because she obviously thought Nan would be the pushover, she had asked for him not to know unless he has to. My Nan refused, and kept Lil there until my Granddad got home from work. He immediately refused, and told her to never, ever ask that of him again. Anything else, yes, but he won't be an alibi, which this obviously was. Lil got upset about going back to Tommy (ikr gangsta) with the answer, so my Granddad called him himself and also told him to never ask that of his sister again. So she left without a polished, copper plated, alibi.
At 03:00, on Thursday 8th August, Ronnie Biggs, and his gang, pulled off one of the most expensive robberies in history, when they robbed a train carrying money across the country. Several of the gang were caught, and put in prison, Ronnie actually escape from prison, and evaded capture for decades, until he returned, voluntarily, in 2001. There were a few who were not caught. It was a secret I could never talk about, but everyone involved is dead now, and this is still anonymous, so its not like they could approach their kids under the Proceeds of Crime Act, plus they'd struggle to find proof now, 60 years later. It's only my hearsay. Lil never said what he was up to that weekend, but the family all agree that it's not coincidence. Following this he purchased propert in Spain and on the south coast of England. Which was some feat for a guy who just "done a bit of driving for Ronnie Biggs. It's synchronicity. Occham's Razor. And definitely our deepest, darkest secret.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This wasn't even his only deep, dark secret. He chose to move near to Brighton to be able to be actively involved in raising his secret family. I say raising. It's unlikely he cared about the kids as much as the mistress. We didn't find out until they turned up to the funeral...

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#52

After my dad died, my mother started a long distance relationship with her second cousin. She hid it for a while, then told me he was moving out to live with her and they were “dating.” Time goes by, he doesn’t move in, but she decides they’re going to get married and tells me after she’s already planned the entire thing. They did get married but he never moved in with her. They’re not even in the same state and she’s too embarrassed to admit it was a mistake so she’ll never divorce him.

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#53

My great-grandfather was an illegal alien. He married my great-grandmother and she got her citizenship taken away. Though she was born in the United States she had to reapply for citizenship.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That sounds terrifying and crazy, but I don't know anything about citizenship. I don't understand how they can take hers away unless it is some kind of asinine clause that has to do with your great grandfather being an illegal alien when they married. It's extremely sad but there are some crazy laws here for certain. I hope things work out for her and your family.

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#54

hm... i would say this is more of a guess work, but considering much of my family is german, i'd say at least 1 was a nazi (during ww2 of course)

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's dark but has nothing to do with you. I understand the secret but many have been a nazi and lots were forced and brainwashed.

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#55

When I was 26 (I'm now 49), my mum confided in me that my brother had a wardrobe full of women's clothes. They were all too small for him to wear and we've not told anyone, not even him. Not sure why he had them...

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#56

I have a cousin that we could not see until he was an adult. Let me tell you the entire story.

My aunt had children. 3 of them. And one of them (the youngest) had suffocated in his sleep at the age of three months old. This caused my aunts wife to leave her and then husband dad and mom took my cousin away until we finally met him last week.

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#57

My real grandfather was abusive and terrible. I had never met him because supposedly he died of a sickness….

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#58

My brother joined the Marines at 17 to avoid jail and to be able to pay child support. He did both tours admirably but when we created his will, his son was so out of our knowledge that he specifically said his assets went to his named siblings. Only me and bro. We published probate and I dumpster dived to find my nephew but he is gone. At least I found his 1990's girlfriend that he left an annuity to.

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#59

its not a very dark secret but my uncle was an alcoholic. also my grandma had her first kid at age 18

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#60

After my dad died, my mother started a long distance relationship with her second cousin. She hid it for a while, then told me he was moving out to live with her and they were “dating.” Time goes by, he doesn’t move in, but she decides they’re going to get married and tells me after she’s already planned the entire thing. They did get married but he never moved in with her. They’re not even in the same state and she’s too embarrassed to admit it was a mistake so she’ll never divorce him.

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After my dad died, my mother started a long distance relationship with her second cousin. She hid it for a while, then told me he was moving out to live with her and they were “dating.” Time goes by, he doesn’t move in, but she decides they’re going to get married and tells me after she’s already planned the entire thing. They did get married but he never moved in with her. They’re not even in the same state and she’s too embarrassed to admit it was a mistake so she’ll never divorce him.

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