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The person who ignited the discussion, u/throwaway000689, came up with the idea for it quite spontaneously. "I was thinking about the conversation I had with my friend where he said that the reason for the downfall of the Roman empire was because of the rampant hedonism," the Redditor told Bored Panda, adding that they find this assessment completely wrong.

One might think that such talks are of little importance. After all, people live in the present, they plan for and worry about the future, but history is the study of the past. Why bother with what has been?

Peter N. Stearns, a professor at George Mason University, where he had been provost for 14 years, said the reason is quite simple: there's much to learn from the bygone days.

"In the first place, history offers a storehouse of information about how people and societies behave," Stearns wrote. "Understanding the operations of people and societies is difficult, though a number of disciplines make the attempt. An exclusive reliance on current data would needlessly handicap our efforts. How can we evaluate war if the nation is at peace—unless we use historical materials? How can we understand genius, the influence of technological innovation, or the role that beliefs play in shaping family life, if we don't use what we know about experiences in the past?"

u/throwaway000689 agrees. "History [not only teaches us about the] mistakes of the past, [but it] also allows us to learn more about the world we live in which helps expand the mind of the average individual."

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In That people from the past were just less intelligent than modern people. Fact is, humans from even 15,000 years ago were just as intelligent as modern humans (intelligence being the ability to learn and apply knowledge). They just had different things to worry about and had not discovered everything that we know today.

The whole of modern civilization is built on discovers made thousands or tens of thousands of years ago. Our ancestors, starting with nothing but stone tools and basic survival skills, created agriculture, writing, mathematics, standardized language, the wheel, metallurgy, ship building, architecture, trade routes spanning all of afro-eurasia, currency, banking, cross breeding of animals and plants to create better strains, the list goes on.

If I plucked a human baby from thousands of years ago, properly immunized it to modern diseases, and raised it as any other child today, you would be unable to tell the difference between them or any other child.

Fact is the only difference between us and our ancient ancestors is the discoveries, philosophies, technology and effort performed, created and understood by the hundreds of generations between us.

Our ancient ancestors were simply smart in different ways because we only really learn what we have to. Ancient Polynesians literally memorized the night sky for navigating the innumerable islands of the Indo-Pacific and Oceania, Norse people's built ships capable of sailing from Europe to America using only hand tools, wood, linen, nails and rope. Ancient east Asian cultures built massive temples out of wood using only precisely crafted wood joints and no nails. Rome built, well, Rome, with hand tools and hand calculated math. Same can be said of the wonders of Egypt, India and mesopotamia.

Then there is Göbekli Tepe, an amazing structure of precisely placed monoliths, engraved walls and cobblestone paths built nearly 12,000 years ago. Which is nearly 6000 years prior to our earliest records of advanced civilizations.

We stand on the backs of thousands of years of knowledge painstakingly collected and handed down for millennia to us who have taken it and created wonders our ancestors would attribute to gods.

Yet we ignore the gargantuan effort that our long dead kin have contributed to our success and even view them with distain. Calling them savages, ignorant and fools. Truly we are the ungrateful child looking down on the gracious teacher that our ancestors were.

We are the summation of all of humanity, just another step in a long history of advancement, not a separate holy being above it or separate from it.

Ralife55 , Monsieurdl Report

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Fred Van Der Zee 3 years ago

This. I once had a discussion with someone who thought the pyramids could only be built by aliens because the people in the past were too stupid to build them.

137points

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In That white people were the only ones that traded in slavery. Forgetting about north and east africa where natives sold others mostly to the middle east. White women brought high prices and were often shipped great distances. Women in russia were also traded to the middle east.

RetiredFart42 , William Clark Report

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368points

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Cecily Holland 3 years ago

Africans did a roaring trade. It was the perfect way to get rid of an inconvenient rival or family member

182points

Bignasty197 , Schlesinger Library Report

However, the prevalence of these misconceptions can be indicative of the fact that history is losing in the academic popularity contest.

According to statistics from the National Center for Education Statistics, there were 34,642 history majors in 2008. Fast forward to 2017, the count was just 24,266. Most of that decline occurred after 2012, with a notable single-year drop of more than 1,500 between 2016 and 2017.

However, maybe it's not yet time to be ringing any alarm bells. Northeastern University’s Benjamin M. Schmidt pointed out that the history major has had low points before. The discipline weathered a significant decline from 1969 and 1985, when the major dropped by 66 percent.

However, those numbers were linked to higher education’s boom in the ’60s that saw the discipline’s rapid expansion and subsequent bust when higher education growth slowed in the ’70s.

This drop is especially pronounced at private, not-for-profit institutions. While all demographic groups are impacted, the highest drops in the field have been seen among Asian-Americans and women.

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In That Rosa Parks was just some nice old lady who wouldn't give up a bus seat.

She was a political activist who meticulously planned that specific instance of civil protest.

Final score:

358points

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Francc 3 years ago

And what if she did? It was about time someone gave the middle finger to discrimination and the color bar of her time. I'm glad she had the courage to plan and carry it through.

21points

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In Cowboys were not cool white guys with endless independence!!! Cowboys were in fact largely black, Mexican, and Native American men who were in need of money and were seen on the low end of social hierarchy. Originally they used whips and dogs to control their herd. Eventually the lazo became the lasso, chaparajos became chaps, and the sombrero turned into the ten gallon cowboy hat we know today. Herding cattle was hard work and was beneath “respectable white folk”. Cowboys worked in groups of 12 or so to herd thousands of cattle over hundreds of miles, and they too had a leader called the trail boss. Cowboys were in fact not rugged icons of independence, but took orders like everyone else and made wages lower than skilled factory pay. Cowboys could also come as young as 12 years old.

honeeyghost , Paramount Pictures Report

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278points

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Mike Crow 3 years ago

A little off topic, but many “wild west” towns and cities, even in Texas, didn’t allow people to carry guns inside the city/town limits. The people were sick of the gun fights and murders.

131points

That Jewish people and other victims of the Holocaust went willingly to their death and no one fought back. While it’s true that a lot of victims did not believe the genocide was occurring and they were simply being relocated (Nazis/Hitler were very persuasive and no one could imagine a genocide), plenty fought back. There were resistance groups all over the place as well as people fighting from their homes when they were being taken for deportation. Guns were used, makeshift bombs, stolen bombs, etc. Not everyone was going to go to the concentration camps/death camps/detention centres without a fight.

Been studying the Holocaust since 2008.

PrxnceZuko Report

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272points

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xolitaire 3 years ago (edited)

Maybe it's because I am German, but I have literally NEVER heard anyone say that. No one here (aside from neo nazis) believes the Jews died willingly like sheep. There is a vast number of interviews with holocaust survivors and in all of them you will here them say "And then I knew we were going to die." They knew. Most of them already knew on the trains taking them to the camps.

32points

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In People didn't die at 30-40. The high infant mortality rate skews the average. If you could survive into your teen years you had a pretty good chance of living into your senior years. Obviously there are a lot of factors to consider(eg class, gender, occupation, where you lived, etc.)

crazynekosama , Mayron Oliveira Report

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253points

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Monday 3 years ago

Provided there wasn't a war...that would skew mortality rate for men quite a lot.

79points

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In It’s petty, but I hate it when people say that Marilyn Monroe was a size 12/14/16. This may have been true in the 1950s, but clothes sizes have changed A LOT since then. Reports of Marilyn’s measurements by her costumers noted that she was 5 ft. 5.5 inches tall; 35 inch bust; 22 inch waist; and 35 inch hips and 118 pounds. Of course her weight fluctuated, but it is simply dishonest to think that in modern times, she would have been considered “plus size.”

In today’s sizing, depending on where she’d shop at, she would be a size 00-4.

dbsx77 , Bert Parry Report

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249points

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Otter 3 years ago

She was quite a slim woman, just a bit softer than is fashionable today.

64points

The United States spent the majority of its time and resources in WWII fighting the Nazi’s to free the Jews.

The majority of US fighting was in the Pacific theatre against Japan, because they bombed the sh*t out of us. We weren’t even going to join the war at first, only assist Britain.

Jak_n_Dax Report

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245points

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Cecily Holland 3 years ago

The USA wanted nothing to do with WW2 and refused several times get involved. Until the Japanese snuck up on Pearl Harbour where the yanks had conveniently parked all their boats which made Japans job very easy.

150points

Imfinejusthomeless , Ember Navarro Report

#10

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In Knights weren't exactly chivalrous. It was a concept designed to make them appear magnanimous, and to justify their brutality among the common folk of their enemies when they weren't at war.

Knights could even pay their respective kings to chicken out of fighting in a war if they were summoned to do so, which many did to keep on pillaging hovels full of bumpkins because it was easy sport.

In short, a lot of Knights were rich, murderous bullies with too much free time on their hands.

Final score:

239points

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Otter 3 years ago

The whole "Courtly Love" thing was an attempt to actually make the knights behave chivalrously, to make following a code of honor fashionable, and to make knights less bullies and more... knightly. This started in the 12th century, after knights in shining armor had been around for a while, don't get me started.

68points

#11

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In “Medieval peasant food was bland”

People seem to think peasants only ate bread and potatoes with no seasoning. In reality, while salt was indeed a luxury they often couldn’t afford, they had access to plenty of herbs to flavor their food. They also had access to things like fish and other meats, so they weren’t just eating bread, though it was an important staple of their diet.

If you’re interested in how a bunch of civilizations ate throughout history, check out Tasting History on YouTube. It’s a great source of historical information and entertainment.

Balrog229 , circleoftheyear Report

Final score:

214points

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Fred Van Der Zee 3 years ago

The potato arrived in the West in the late 16th century anyway, so after the Middle Ages.

112points

Zero_Talents , Ferdinand Schmutzer Report

#12

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In "Even Einstein was bad at math"

No, his grades were disclosed multiple times and showed very high marks in math.

Final score:

207points

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Shelp 3 years ago

Of course he wasn't, you can't work on high-level physics without any knowledge in maths

97points

Cathy-the-Grand , Jacques-Louis David Report

#13

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In That Napoleon was short. Dude was 5"6'. Making him downright average for the European standard at the time. A brief investigation shows this was a rumor that his enemies spread in order to deminish his reputation and how serious his subjects took him. Funny error, but still an error

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205points

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Jo Choto 3 years ago

Yup, this is absolutely true. But it was also compounded by the fact that the French foot measurement was actually a couple of inches longer than the British foot measurement, which made him sound shorter.

10points

#14

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In That Neanderthals were monosyllabic brutes. There's no evidence of that whatsoever. Their brains were bigger than ours and casts of the inside of their skulls show that they had all the same structures our brains had. Their tool making was comparable to any Homo sapiens' took making (at least before the Great Leap Forward) and they lived in communities just like we did.

We also regularly mated with them and had kids, which I really don't think we would if they were little more than quasi-gorillas.

PhillipLlerenas , Bacon Cph Report

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199points

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Romenriel 3 years ago

And many people today have Neandrethal ancestors, meaning that Neandrethals weren't wiped out by modern men, but rather blended in with them.

115points

#15

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In Only around 40% of colonists supported the American Revolution. Another 40% was indifferent, and about 20% sided with the British. Most Americans think that it was the vast majority who wanted Independence.

placeholderNull , John Trumbull Report

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193points

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Leo Domitrix 3 years ago

I wouldn't say indifferent so much as "not immediately involved", given what I know about US history. They were busy farming or whatever, and not really concerned with high ideals beyond, "Can I feed the family this winter? Is the cow sick? That's terrible about the deaths in Boston, but I live in Podunk, and we never see redcoats." So, typical human mindset, really. (See: Brexit.)

93points

#16

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In That witches could only be women. There were plenty of male ‘witches’ over hundreds of years. In fact there are lot of misconceptions about witchcraft in general

mickeyajp5 , waltdisneystudios Report

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182points

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Shelp 3 years ago

And also the witch trials occurred during the Early Modern Period, and not during the Middle Ages

47points

#17

I've mentioned this before but the Earth was mathematically proven to be spherical by the Ancient Greeks in the 3rd Century BC. Literate people, at very least, wouldn't have believed the Earth to be flat in the Medieval era.

Furthermore, the Dark Ages weren't the Dark Ages because the Church allegedly suppressed science that they disagreed with. Many important discoveries were sponsored by the Church, and scientists/clergy were not mutually exclusive.

2ndOfficerCH Report

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175points

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troufaki13 3 years ago

Ιt's been proven since the 3rd century BCE yet there are still people who think Earth is a floating raft smh

77points

#18

That carrots magically make your eyesight better. I still hear people say this to this day. Carrots are good for you, but not any better for your eyes than any other vegetable.

In World War 2 when the Nazis were bombing Great Britain, they couldn't figure out how the Brits were able to shoot their planes down at night. British propaganda stated that their gunners and pilots ate a lot of carrots to improve their eyesight.

In actuality they were covering up the fact that they'd invented RADAR and didn't want the Jerrys to know about it.

allmeatbopper Report

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161points

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Jetze 3 years ago

Actually I read somewhere it was not to hide the fact that the UK had radar (as the Germans had Freya and Wurzburg) radar systems, which the British knew and captured in operation Biting). But to hide the fact that the British had it miniaturised enough to allow mounting them on planes. For more info see https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/a-wwii-propaganda-campaign-popularized-the-myth-that-carrots-help-you-see-in-the-dark-28812484/

64points

#19

Oh, so many.

Native Americans were just as capable of ecological destruction as any other humans. My favorite example of this was from my archeology professor who does excavations of Native American sites in Baja. In excavating a midden (trash heap) he found at the bottom were bones from the local land mammals, that got smaller and smaller as the locals over-hunted. Then was a level of fish and sea mammals -- again, starting with bone from large fish and mammals and getting smaller and smaller until they practically disappeared from over hunting and over fishing. Then on the top were the shellfish -- and again, the same pattern. Until apparently there was nothing left at this site to eat, and the Natives moved on.

Native peoples used every bit of the animal when they had to, when said animals were tough to kill. North America didn't have horses between last ice age and Columbus. In fact, the favorite method for killing bison was to chase a herd off a cliff. And we know where this was done because the Natives left a whole lotta bones in the kill zone. Which we obviously couldn't find if they really used every part of the animal.

Native Americans understood property rights. Various systems between tribes, from quasi-socialist bands of multiple families where all produce was held in common (but very explicitly belonged to the band and would be defended against outsiders), to land assigned to different families for use and periodically reapportioned, to land that was held by families and inheritable. My theory is that this myth was first started by colonists to justify stealing the land and then perpetuated as Rousseauian "look at how much better the primitives are!" nonsense.

Probonoh Report

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153points

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sofacushionfort 3 years ago

If we admire the native peoples for using every part of the animal, we must be over the moon about hot dog producers.

107points

#20

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In That AD means after death.

Evincer1968 , Kenny Orr Report

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151points

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SentimentAndBadJokes 3 years ago

It gets so frustrating having people tell me that actually, it DOES mean after death. Correct my spelling please, but AD is Latin for Anno Domini, which translate roughly to English as 'the Year of Christ'

119points

#21

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In The myth about the Vomitorium

The story goes that Roman nobility would go there to eat so much till they puked and would then continue eating.

It was just the name for the Colosseum entrance.

Th3_Accountant , Kelisi Report

Final score:

150points

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Shelp 3 years ago

Haha, that's the first time I hear of that myth

8points

#22

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In That if you were a Peasant you could marry who ever you wanted for love and if you were a noble, royal or the like you could only marry for power During the Medieval period.

Higher class people could and did (though it wasn't common) marry for love and most of the time Peasant marriages were arranged for the same reason as noble ones were, to link two families together, you very rarely got to marry who you liked it was usually who your parents liked.

Also Prima nocta has, as far as I know was never actually being recorded as a thing.

Nugo520 , 20thcenturystudios Report

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128points

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xolitaire 3 years ago (edited)

That is not a "common misconception", its just a movie plot. Planned marriages were a super common thing all through Europe. Marriage itself was just a vehicle to ensure your children would take care of you and your belongings in the future.

55points

Aware_Masterpiece_23 , the United States Library of Congress' Report

#23

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In The belief that Anastasia did not die with the rest of her family

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125points

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Vorknkx 3 years ago

Wait, you're telling me she didn't lose her memory and get hunted by an undead Rasputin and his albino bat???

176points

FeelFreeToIgnoreThis , Mathew Brady Report

#24

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In I have had way too many of my university students tell me that Lincoln owned slaves.

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124points

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Kira Okah 3 years ago

He was anti slavery and didn't own slaves. I'm not American and know that. Oof.

83points

_spookyvision_ , Alexander Bassano Report

#25

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In There is no record of Queen Victoria ever saying "We are not amused".

And Roman gladiator fights usually weren't just pointless, bloody, fights to the death for scumbag convicts. The gladiators themselves were very highly trained celebrities who were very well looked after. It was entertainment done for show, much like WWE or similar today.

Final score:

121points

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AnnaBanana 3 years ago

She may not have said it, but the expression on her face sure does!!

101points

#26

French revolution storming of the Bastille freeing hundreds of political prisoners.

When in actual fact there were only 7 prisoners. (4 cheques forgers, a lunatic, a sexual deviant and a man who tried to assassinate King Louis XV 30 years ago).

Age-Zealousideal Report

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116points

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Phil Jones 3 years ago

Ive read this too- also I believe the French did not celebrate it until about 100 years after it happened - I love France but I really dont understand Bastille Day in the same way I dont understand Guy Fawkes Day in the UK!!

29points

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#27

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In Deep breath.

I've been studying the Titanic disaster for over three decades. Titanic comes up on reddit a lot, which I love because how cool that my nerdy hobby interests so many people, but the amount of misconceptions is large. This is no ones fault, nor is it ignorance, Titanic had the (un)lucky fortune to become a symbol very quickly, so very often what we think of as history is really folklore. That being said, here are the ones I see often.

There is enough evidence, good evidence, where we can say that William Murdoch most likely did shoot himself. The scene James Cameron shot is a direct recreation of witness testimony- multiple witnesses actually. There is a huge amount of first hand and second hand evidence that this happened. Why it's thought to be a myth and why James Cameron had to apologize is actually another interesting part of the story but for the main question- in all my research, I've yet to see a fact based reason why we should think Will Murdoch was not a victim of suicide.

2)On the same note- yes Charles Lightoller lowered early boats without filling them- as he should have. It wasn't incompetence or ignorance, there were many reasons why this was the best course of action and it was practiced throughout the night. To add- Titanic's crew weren't incompetent or unprepared, they were, quite literally, the best of the best.

3)There were lifeboat drills. Multiple. Every night at 6pm.

4)The 4th funnel wasn't fake- it just served a slightly different purpose than the first three.

5) Titanic. was. not. speeding.

6) Boats were not filled by class.

7)Third Class was not locked below- but some of them thought they were. This is actually pretty interesting in that every view of this situation is the correct one. To refer to Cameron again- his portrayal of this is correct- depending on who you ask. It was miscommunication, not classism.

9) Coal fire damage- not a thing and the "evidence" is just ... wrong.

10) The switch theory not only makes no sense, it is literally impossible.

11) Titanic wasn't a cruise ship. She was an ocean liner :)

YourlocalTitanicguy , F.G.O. Stuart Report

Final score:

106points

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Monday 3 years ago

The switch theory is impossible...but still a very fun conspiracy theory to explore. It's also worth noting that one of the crew members on the titanic, Violet Jessop, survived not only the sinking of the Titanic, but also the sinkings of both the Olympic and the Britannic.

38points

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#28

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In The fact that Shah Jahan cut off hands of his workers after they completed Taj Mahal.

There's literally no evidence except for tell tales.

Many monuments were built after Taj Mahal under reign of Shah Jahan. Just think, who would work for you knowing that they're going to lose their hands if they did a good job.

veniato , Kristian Bertel Report

Final score:

104points

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Lyone Fein 3 years ago

I don't think people outside of India are familiar with this myth.

64points

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#29

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In Louis-Michel le Peletier cast the single vote that sentenced Louis XVI

Actually the vote was a pretty clear majority in favor of execution

Final score:

86points

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Caro Caro 3 years ago

Even he looks surprised about this fact !

46points

Loose_Acanthaceae20 , Peloponnesian Folklore Foundation Report

#30

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In That corsets were uncomfortable and prevented free movement and breathing, so were a way of physically subjugating women.

Firstly, this is often asserted by people who don't know the difference between bodies, stays and corsets, proving that they're waaaaay out of their lane.

It's pretty obvious even just from contemporary art that women were perfectly capable of getting through physical labour including farm work in that kind of supportive garment whether stiffened with interfacing/stitching or "boning" (not necessarily made of bone). And if you've ever worn one, you'll know how great they are for supporting your back and core.

They're much more comfortable than bras, in my opinion.

Oh and they didn't leave red marks all over your skin because unlike a bra you'd never have worn one against your skin (too difficult to wash) but over a shift/chemise/combination garment of some kind. Try putting your bra OVER a tank top or similar, and note (1) no loss of support, (2) much kinder to the skin, and (3) bra needs much less frequent washing.

Final score:

74points

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Leo Domitrix 3 years ago

BULLSH*T from a medical doctor. Many corset styles caused incredible harm, you're not meant to need anything to support your posture unless you are INJURED, and the boning was made of bones (whale, flexible) or metal, or WOOD, so don't try to sell this myth. Do NOT. We saw skeletal remains of women who were strictly corseted or "stayed" in med school. Girls were put into them before they finished growing. It may not have killed, but it wasn't like it was "good" fory ou. AND PEASANTS/FARMERS didn't wear high fashion, so duh they didn't wear the corsets seen in fashion! Good grief...

103points

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#31

People love to portray Napoleon with a French accent. Napoleon actually had an Italian accent.

rex1030 Report

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33points

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Ryan Deschanel 3 years ago

And he was bullied in school for that... They almost treated him like a foreigner, because he was born one year after Corsica became French.

18points

#32

Oh God, where to begin... That the Europeans in the Middle Ages didn't bathe, that the US was founded as a Christian nation (Treaty of Tripoli, anyone?), the pyramids were built by slaves, that ye olde life expectancy was abysmally short (only of you're one of those darn infants bringing the average down...).

Passion4Justice Report

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31points

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Susan De Nimes 3 years ago

The pilgrims left England because they wanted to be less tolerant than society was comfortable with at the time.

20points

Dave In MD 3 years ago

They did not want freedom of religion, they wanted to freedom from other peoples religion. E.g. they wanted to be the only game in town.

12points

lara 3 years ago

And again reality gives way to propaganda. Because it does not fit a specific conceit.

1point

Mrs S 3 years ago

Definitely!

0points

MyOpinionHasBeenServed 3 years ago

LOL I'm reminded of Cooper talking about the the Prudes.

0points

Mazer 3 years ago

Early Europeans did bathe, just not daily

4points

Thorfin Wolfsbane 3 years ago

once a month sound about right?

1point

Mark Kelly 3 years ago

and the word god wasn't originally in the founding documents on on currency and the founding father didn't believe in god.

4points

Concept-Peter Roosdorp 3 years ago

I have never believed the whole not washing thing. If you have been hiking or some other activity that makes it difficult to clean yourself.. You start to feel the grime after a few days, things start getting itchy and if you keep going, you get rashes.. But they still only bathed a few times per year? I would at least jump in any river or lake at first given oppertunity, probably with my clothes on to wash them off too.

2points

Terran 3 years ago

Usually they bathed once a week except they got REALLY dirty

0points

Enby.Minecraft.Bee. 3 years ago

Didn't the people that made the pyramids get paid with wine and food?

1point

AnnaBanana 3 years ago

If slaves didn't build the pyramids, who did??

1point

memyselfandI 3 years ago

The US wasn’t founded as a Christian nation, but it was founded by Christians who were most likely expecting that the nation would remain majority Christian or accepting of Christian values. It hadn’t even occurred to them that Muslims would come, atheism would be prevalent, etc. etc. etc. But yes, you’re right, it wasn’t intended to require Christianity. (It was likely assumed, though)

0points

Requiem 3 years ago

They didnt bathe and they wore wigs to hide the disgusting heads they had. Lots of bugs and grease up there

0points

Terran 3 years ago

That's the case in the 18th century, not in the middle ages.

1point

xolitaire 3 years ago

Yes, you are totally correct, we are all uneducated heathens

-2points

Laura kelly 3 years ago

Learning s**t's not so bad! Try it, instead of being defensive! If you doubt what someone's written, look it up yourself!

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#33

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In During Paul Revere's Midnight Ride he did not shout "the British are coming!" The mission depended on secrecy so shouting loudly the "British are coming" kinda defeats the whole purpose.

According to several sources (e.g., eyewitness accounts) his warning was likely "the Regulars are coming out" or some variation of that and probably not loud enough to wake up a village (as I've seen in some media renditions).

Animalion , Gilbert Stuart Report

Final score:

30points

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Ryan Deschanel 3 years ago

"The British are coming! -I am British, you are British, we are all British! Also, shut up, you woke up my baby!"

26points

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#34

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In People are usually dead wrong about when the Roman Empire fell. Because of political, religious, and cultural reasons - we often think of the Roman Empire falling in the end of the 4th century. Except, it didn't. That was when the Rome fell, but by that time Constantinople had become the capital of the empire and that political lineage lasted until 1453.

There are a lot 'but they spoke Greek', and 'they weren't...whatever', normally by people who just can't let go of what they were taught in high school. Yes, the ERE became Greek in language and culture, and yes they were much more Asian than the western empire. None of that changes the fact that the political line of the empire was unbroken through the middle ages.

Leucippus1 , Tataryn Report

Final score:

29points

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Robert T 3 years ago

Yeah, but "What did the Romans ever do for us?"

14points

#35

WW1 trench combat was nothing like how most people think about it. The common misconception is that people stared at each other with machine guns until some idiot general forced his soldiers to run into machine gun fire and they all got brutally mowed down while the enemy cracked open a beer.

The reality is much, much more complex. Artillery did an excellent job of suppressing machine guns and clearing barbed wire, forcing defending troops to hunker in deep shelters while the attacking infantry were free to advance. As a result, the attackers generally had a pretty substantial advantage in the war, and casualty ratios support this- across the war, attackers almost always had equal or lower casualties than defenders.

What forced the stalemate was not that it was impossible to attack, but rather that it was impossible to defend against counterattacks.

Once you've taken the enemy's first line of trenches(and they have much more than one line), because of your own artillery, it is now almost impossible to reinforce and consolidate your hard-earned territory. Your own artillery has blown apart the terrain between the trenches enough that it's very, very difficult to get supplies or men across, and it generally doesn't have the range to suppress enemy counterattacks further back(because if it did, then it'd be open to counterbattery fire, which would result in you losing all your artillery).

Ad a result, you now have to defend against a counterattack that does have artillery and the attacker's advantage, and you don't have any defender's advantage because you haven't

Wobulating Report

Final score:

28points

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Caro Caro 3 years ago

Did you know that about 40 thousand (!) died of drowning in the mud in Northern France? To this day human bones are still found, collected and respectfully buried or put in a ossuary.

23points

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#36

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In That Vikings were an ethnicity.

OblongConsistency , Jonathan Farber Report

Final score:

24points

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Shelp 3 years ago

I'm not sure to get this one. "Viking" means "seafarer", but at the end of the day they all were Norsemen

20points

#37

That the Library of Alexandria was callously destroyed in a big, dramatic event in which all of the ancient world’s knowledge was lost forever.

Like most things, the Library of Alexandria had its rise, its peak, and its ultimate decline, with highs and lows in between. It also certainly was not the only prestigious library in the world at the time, not to mention personal collections kept by the wealthy. To act as if all of the world’s knowledge was recorded one time only and then stockpiled in one place is ludicrous.

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Final score:

22points

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troufaki13 3 years ago

I'm anxiously waiting for the fall of the Kardashians...

34points

#38

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In Marie Antoinette's famous "let them eat cake" or "let them eat brioche". She literally never said it. She was 9 at the time and it was entirely made up.

oamnoj , sonypictures Report

Final score:

21points

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Shelp 3 years ago

This is BS. She may have not said that, but she was 34 at the time, and not 9.

36points

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#39

There is no evidence that Franklin ever said that beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. But it is a cool quote so I will continue to use it.

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Final score:

19points

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Lauren Caswell 3 years ago

Beer was safer than water, even lumpy ancient Egyptian Beer

11points

#40

Sweden is a neutral country. Since we declared neutrality we fought in the Finnish civil war, the winter war, technically ww2, over 5 different un campaigns including the Congo crisis and now the wars in the Middle East.

Swedish_Karl Report

Final score:

19points

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J. F. 3 years ago

They earned quite the reputation as "Trigger happiest peace force" in Bosnia during UNPROFOR, especially the "Nordbat 2" battalion

9points

Thirty_Helens_Agree , Maheshkumar Painam Report

#41

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In Germany invaded Russia on June 22, not “in the winter” as people say.

Final score:

18points

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troufaki13 3 years ago

It started on June 22nd and ended in December

21points

#42

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In Nothing drives me up the wall when it comes to History. I love to inform people and get them asking questions. History has been taught in such a dry manner and now that we have internet, we are able to take pages worth of text and condense it into entertaining information instead of a single paragraph in a book that covers whole decades.

My "favorite" common misconception is that the Nazi Army was the most advanced, fully mechanized fighting force in the world. The truth is a handful of people were put in charge of portraying that image and they were so good at their job that this image still holds up today.

The Axis was never, ever going to win. The Allies just had their heads in the sand and didn't stop Hitler when they could, and they had many chances. If WW2 looked like the end report of a Chess game, it would look a little like this:

Allies - 9,500 Mistakes 500 Blunders, 1,000 Missed Wins.

Axis - 5,000 Mistakes, 200 Blunders, 5 Missed Wins.

Ramen_Beef_Baby , Bundesarchiv Report

Final score:

17points

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Chich 3 years ago

And contrary to Hollywood, it wasn't the Brits or US who defeated the Nazis, it was Russia.

27points

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#43

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In Classics buff. It's Pandora's jar, not Pandora's box.

bandanasarebest , Dante Gabriel Rossetti Report

Final score:

12points

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Krásnoočko Zelené 3 years ago (edited)

Sorry but this is just a needless nitpick. Pandora is not a historical figure and whether she had a jar or a box is completely inconsequential for the story.

62points

#44

That bushido is some ancient, archaic code of honor held by samurai that made them totally infallible and above the “dishonorable” acts that shinobi would commit.

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Final score:

12points

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Paul Davis 3 years ago

I think the idea of "shinobi" covered a wide range of spies. Some being amateurs pressed into service ad-hoc, some with special training.

2points

#45

30 People Share Historical 'Facts' That Have Been Proven Wrong Long Ago, But Many People Still Believe In That the Boston Tea Party was some patriotic protest against taxes. That is totally wrong.

Rather, it was a protest by the local tea smugglers that there was no more tea duty -- it destroyed their smuggling business.

sneeeki , Cornischong Report

Final score:

12points

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Lyone Fein 3 years ago

Don't know where this one comes from. The Wikipedia article cited says nothing about tea smuggling, nor about the British doing away with the taxes/duty on the tea. Whoever wrote this misread the article. It clearly states that the British government had passed a new Tea Act, which enabled them to tax the tea sent to the colonies. The Boston Tea Party was a protest against having taxes levied by a government that did not have any elected representatives of the colonial population.

32points

#46

That WV was part of the Confederacy.

Spoilers: It wasn't. It was part of the North.

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10points

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Tiny Dynamine 3 years ago

WV means West Virginia. I wish people would stop assuming the entire world must know everything about the USA.

65points

#47

That people's surnames were changed at Ellis Island.

They were not

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Final score:

10points

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cb !!! 3 years ago

They were occasionally misheard and used as the misheard version though, right? You can't trace my family tree past Ellis because it's been horribly butchered and American-ized (or so I have been told?)

36points

#48

WW1 happened because the driver took the wrong turn. It did happened, but it was a trigger that turns political heat into actual war, not a cause.

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Final score:

9points

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Patrick McKemie 3 years ago

What in the hell does this actually mean?!?

17points

#49

Jim Jones didn't give the faithful coolaid to drink. It was flavoraid.

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Final score:

6points

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bumble bee 3 years ago

And if he gave them poisoned hydrox cookies, everyone will still call them oreo's

20points

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René Studer 3 years ago

The one the bothers me is when people say that Christopher Columbus was a great explorer and proved the earth was round. People knew very well that the earth was not flat at that time in history. The reason nobody took him seriously is because his math was way off on how far away india is. He would have died on the ocean if there wasn’t a continent in the way that nobody knew about. That jackass got incredibly lucky. He also enslaved the natives and let his men commit horribly crimes against them.

35points

Josy Bannon 3 years ago (edited)

Yes, he was a monster, "explorer" is a strange romanticization.

7points

Hot Babushka 3 years ago

And he sold young girls into sex slavery. My school actually goes over this and we happily don't only learn white men's point of view, or i would never have known that. HAPPY INDIGENOUS PEOPLE'S DAY!

5points

Nikki Sevven 3 years ago

Nor did he "discover" America. Note that it's not named the United States of Columbia.

5points

J. F. 3 years ago

If I remember correctly he used accurate arabian meassurements and forgot to translate them into his own - making the estimated distance WAY shorter

1point

Thomas brennan 3 years ago

It also wasn't completely unknown by Europeans. There had been strong suspicions that there was a landmass there - just like with Australia a few centuries later. For example, there is evidence of German writers having an awareness of Leif Erikson's voyages and the existence of Vinland. This is one of the reasons expeditions were sent - not just to find a passage to India but to also to find new lands.

1point

Lea S. 7 months ago

I agree with everything except - there were people that believed the Earth was flat just like there are now. They are wrong, but they existed.

0points

VeninTheNonBinaryRogue 3 years ago

Columbus sucked pretty bad. I feel bad for the indigenous people who just got killed and hurt

0points

Zaza 3 years ago

Exaclty. Let's have a nationwide holiday to celebrate some degenerate who thought he was the first person ever to set foot on American soil. And even when he knew he wasn't the first person there he whipped the natives into submission. Yay columbus day. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks he's a jackass

0points

Seabeast 3 years ago

He was a nasty piece of work even by the standards of his time.

0points

Chris Challis 3 years ago

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Brendan 3 years ago

Who's to say the information in these posts are any more accurate than than the information on the rest of the web?

17points

Eb 3 years ago

Many of them do seem rather naive, as though they writers may be teenagers and just repeating random bits of hearsay, which isn't the same as a widely held belief.

4points

Katinka Min 3 years ago

Nobody checked the fact checkers, either.

10points

Phil Vaive 3 years ago

This is just a list of people who have their own misconceptions about history. That's it.

4points

ChickyChicky 3 years ago

A whole lot of "aKsHUally" going on in the posts and in the comments here.

2points

Sawdust 3 years ago

Let me say something wrong and then point out how wrong it is.

2points

Jo Choto 3 years ago

I suspect the vast majority of ancient history we are taught has been compromised or distorted to the point of not being very true at all.

2points

Pearl 3 years ago

SOME of these pieces of info also have a kernel of falsity. How the heck would these OP's be able to prove whether a person who lived more than a century did a specific action or not? Just like Marie's "let them eat cake". You will never be able to prove if she said that or not, the same goes with many historical figures.

2points

Martha Meyer 3 years ago

Seriozsly, how do you think we know ANYTHING about history?

7points

H Edwards 3 years ago

I think we actually can be, and are, very sure that Marie Antionette said nothing of the sort. Some of these assertions are questionable, but the myth of let them eat cake has been pretty thoroughly debunked at this point.

3points

Monday 3 years ago

We can safely say she never said "Let them eat cake" since she spoke French and German, not English.

3points

Something 3 years ago

It is possible that through some coincidence Marie Antoinette actually once whispered "let them eat cake" and nobody heard her, but we have no reason to think so.

1point

RandomBeing 3 years ago

The corsetry one is pretty false and ignores the complexities of corsetry and the history of similar garments.

0points

Rei 3 years ago

That the Bible isn't a respectable historical source and that Jesus never existed as a historical person. It is a historical source just as all the other ones we have about history and we have overwhelming evidence on the existence of a historcial person who was called Jesus of Nazareth, even outside of the Bible (for an expansion on this please take a look at NT Wright and other historians). Unfortunately, people have been dismissing these facts out of their own negative and biased emotions and beliefs about it and towards religion. But that would be the same as me saying I don't believe the historical sources that Iulius Ceasar existed just because I hate him. Quite subjective, isn't it?

1point

René Studer 3 years ago

I don’t agree. I don’t dismiss the bible as a source of history just because I don’t like religion. I dismiss it as a history book because to me it looks a lot like a bunch of storys only BASED on something that happened once. I don’t dismiss that Jesus existed but was he the son of god and did he walk on water? I don’t dismiss there might have been an ark but was it exactly for the reason described in the bible? Two of each species wouldn’t be nearly enough to guarantee a species survival. That is just a fact. You see what I mean? To me it would be like referencing James Bond movies while talking about the inner workings of MI6.

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not your average weirdo 3 years ago

I don't like it when people say that Colombus was the first European to reach America. It was the Vikings.

1point

René Studer 3 years ago

We even learned that in „Asterix“.

0points

Deja Katz 3 years ago

Most of these I’ve never heard of anybody saying let alone believing as fact.

1point

Jon S. 3 years ago (edited)

My particular bugbear of a misconception is that Rome (the west at least) was conquered by pagans. People seem to believe that passive Christianity weakened martial morals of the empire. The Vandals, the Goths, and Lombards were all Christian as well. (The Huns, Franks and Saxons were not).

1point

BleeBloo 3 years ago

I wouldn't trust everything you read on the internet.

1point

You kidding me 3 years ago

What!?

1point

Amanda Panda 1 year ago

I'm sorry but there's no freaking way Marilyn Monroe had a 22 inch waist. Kate Moss has a 24-26 inch waist. That is impossibly small if you look at the 2 or them side by side. Even if there's a height difference. There's nothing soft on Kate Moss.

0points

Monica Pryts 2 years ago

The last name of my great-grandparents was changed after they came through Ellis Island.

0points

Alexa D. 1 year ago

They changed their own name, then. At Ellis Island, the ships would give the immigration officials their ship's manifest with all the passengers' names in it. It would have made the process so inefficient to review everyone's name.

0points

Rider 2 years ago

One of my favorites - Darwin converted to Christianity on his death bed. NOPE! If you think it's true then you're buying in to the lies perpetuated by a harridan called Lady Hope and published in the "Watchman Examiner." He had family around him the entire time and ALL of them said his supposed conversion never took place.

0points

Lovin' Life 3 years ago

Very interesting. I do think when others post there comments or their opinions, the reader could agree or disagree without the name calling and negative rude comments. It's sad that you cant have an opinion without being ridiculed. If you disagree, fine. Explain why. You may even change their opinions but the harsh comments and the name calling is just disgusting.

0points

Don't Look 3 years ago (edited)

I think people now spend too much time trying to prove facts to be false …. And keeping alive memories that aren’t necessary to keep alive.

0points

D H 3 years ago

when fact becomes legend print the legend

0points

Dodo 3 years ago

This is debatably historical but it frustrates me when people say Satan and Judas Iscariot are the bad guys. They're not, they're the good guys.

0points

Ryan Deschanel 3 years ago

They are respectively the one who tried to deprive all of mankind of eternal bliss, and the second one who sold the guy who came to fix the first one's s**t to the local dictator who tortured and killed him. They were not the good guys.

2points

SCamp 3 years ago

One I like - that there are sophisticated, expressive languages and there are basic, primitive languages - nope, any and every language is as capable of expressing any concept as precisely and as expressively as any other

-1point

Effin Fred 3 years ago

How about when people misunderstand how few descendants there are of black slaves in the US. I know this number because it has been my life's work for over 30 years and because I authored a book.

-3points

Christoph 3 years ago

This article seems awfully "agenda" driven. I would vet this information if it plucks your interest.

-3points

Ick Villiams 3 years ago

Shame. A convenient post for all the closet racists to come out and wax on all their favorite talking points.

-3points

Łukasz Markuszewski 3 years ago

Most of these are not correct too.

-3points

Jon S. 3 years ago

Care to give an example?

4points

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René Studer 3 years ago

35points

Josy Bannon 3 years ago (edited)

Yes, he was a monster, "explorer" is a strange romanticization.

7points

Hot Babushka 3 years ago

And he sold young girls into sex slavery. My school actually goes over this and we happily don't only learn white men's point of view, or i would never have known that. HAPPY INDIGENOUS PEOPLE'S DAY!

5points

Nikki Sevven 3 years ago

Nor did he "discover" America. Note that it's not named the United States of Columbia.

5points

J. F. 3 years ago

If I remember correctly he used accurate arabian meassurements and forgot to translate them into his own - making the estimated distance WAY shorter

1point

Thomas brennan 3 years ago

1point

Lea S. 7 months ago

I agree with everything except - there were people that believed the Earth was flat just like there are now. They are wrong, but they existed.

0points

VeninTheNonBinaryRogue 3 years ago

Columbus sucked pretty bad. I feel bad for the indigenous people who just got killed and hurt

0points

Zaza 3 years ago

0points

Seabeast 3 years ago

He was a nasty piece of work even by the standards of his time.

0points

Chris Challis 3 years ago

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Brendan 3 years ago

Who's to say the information in these posts are any more accurate than than the information on the rest of the web?

17points

Eb 3 years ago

Many of them do seem rather naive, as though they writers may be teenagers and just repeating random bits of hearsay, which isn't the same as a widely held belief.

4points

Katinka Min 3 years ago

Nobody checked the fact checkers, either.

10points

Phil Vaive 3 years ago

This is just a list of people who have their own misconceptions about history. That's it.

4points

ChickyChicky 3 years ago

A whole lot of "aKsHUally" going on in the posts and in the comments here.

2points

Sawdust 3 years ago

Let me say something wrong and then point out how wrong it is.

2points

Jo Choto 3 years ago

I suspect the vast majority of ancient history we are taught has been compromised or distorted to the point of not being very true at all.

2points

Pearl 3 years ago

2points

Martha Meyer 3 years ago

Seriozsly, how do you think we know ANYTHING about history?

7points

H Edwards 3 years ago

3points

Monday 3 years ago

We can safely say she never said "Let them eat cake" since she spoke French and German, not English.

3points

Something 3 years ago

It is possible that through some coincidence Marie Antoinette actually once whispered "let them eat cake" and nobody heard her, but we have no reason to think so.

1point

RandomBeing 3 years ago

The corsetry one is pretty false and ignores the complexities of corsetry and the history of similar garments.

0points

Rei 3 years ago

1point

René Studer 3 years ago

-1point

not your average weirdo 3 years ago

I don't like it when people say that Colombus was the first European to reach America. It was the Vikings.

1point

René Studer 3 years ago

We even learned that in „Asterix“.

0points

Deja Katz 3 years ago

Most of these I’ve never heard of anybody saying let alone believing as fact.

1point

Jon S. 3 years ago (edited)

1point

BleeBloo 3 years ago

I wouldn't trust everything you read on the internet.

1point

You kidding me 3 years ago

What!?

1point

Amanda Panda 1 year ago

0points

Monica Pryts 2 years ago

The last name of my great-grandparents was changed after they came through Ellis Island.

0points

Alexa D. 1 year ago

0points

Rider 2 years ago

0points

Lovin' Life 3 years ago

0points

Don't Look 3 years ago (edited)

I think people now spend too much time trying to prove facts to be false …. And keeping alive memories that aren’t necessary to keep alive.

0points

D H 3 years ago

when fact becomes legend print the legend

0points

Dodo 3 years ago

This is debatably historical but it frustrates me when people say Satan and Judas Iscariot are the bad guys. They're not, they're the good guys.

0points

Ryan Deschanel 3 years ago

2points

SCamp 3 years ago

-1point

Effin Fred 3 years ago

How about when people misunderstand how few descendants there are of black slaves in the US. I know this number because it has been my life's work for over 30 years and because I authored a book.

-3points

Christoph 3 years ago

This article seems awfully "agenda" driven. I would vet this information if it plucks your interest.

-3points

Ick Villiams 3 years ago

Shame. A convenient post for all the closet racists to come out and wax on all their favorite talking points.

-3points

Łukasz Markuszewski 3 years ago

Most of these are not correct too.

-3points

Jon S. 3 years ago

Care to give an example?

4points