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Clown Shames A Mother Who Wouldn’t Let Her Son Get A Butterfly Painted On His Face But Instead Asked For Skull And Crossbones
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Clown Shames A Mother Who Wouldn’t Let Her Son Get A Butterfly Painted On His Face But Instead Asked For Skull And Crossbones

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From a young age, children are taught to conform to gender norms, however, sometimes it can get really out of hand. Twitter user Sandra, who works as a clown and paints children’s faces, decided to share a sad experience she witnessed that highlights gender stereotypes. During a picnic, a boy asked her to paint a blue butterfly on his face, but his mother intervened. She forbid the boy from getting a butterfly and demanded that Sandra paint something more ‘masculine’. This encouraged Sandra to voice her opinion on what happens to boys who are shamed for liking ‘feminine’ things and are forced to be hyper-masculine instead. Scroll below to read how the whole story unfolded!
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From a young age, children are taught to conform to gender norms, however, sometimes it can get really out of hand

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Twitter user Sandra decided to share a sad experience she witnessed that highlights gender stereotypes

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stellermatt
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

so a girl likes football and beer and she's labelled a Tomboy, instead of a girl who likes football and beer. a guy likes nature, butterflys, puppies and is labelled what? a sissy? instead of a boy who likes nature. why does everything have to have a label, a category, people like stuff, get over it! clown shoulda painted the butterfly anyway...

Amélie Bougie
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's exactly because of that that kind of labels that we get clichés like the « badass woman, one of the boys, not like the other women », meaning that other women only like to do the "girl things ", wich are considered superficial, you know : makeup, shopping, etc. This statement : " You know, I 'm not like the other girls. " is probably one of the less femenist of all time.

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Lazy Panda
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Toxic masculinity truly is disgusting. Very sad that a little boy couldn’t get a damn butterfly painted on his face, absolutely ridiculous

Suzi Gauthier
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if she would have let him have a bee. Are bees masculine? How about a cat? Is a cat feminine or masculine? A dog? What arbitrary rules.

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A Dyke From The Dreamworld
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, you're telling me this mother was terrified of a pretty blue butterfly and would rather have pieces of a corpse painted on her son? Jesus Christ, dude. Can we just like not dictate what our children are interested in like wtf dude

Gvantsa
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

children need CORRECT guidance of parents while they have some authority. we must "dictate" what they should NOT be interested in. we must teach them not to be interested in something terrible they can see somewhere accidentally (for example, my cousin (he was 4) saw how car killed cat. after few days he tried to kill neighbors cat. parents took good care of that problem and now he loves animals). it's sad how some parents are giving "absolute freedom" to their children while they have very weak understanding of good and evil, and no "social skills". we are living in cruel environment and it's teaching very bad things (but when parent is doing everything so wrong, like starting panic because of butterfly, letting kid do anything he wants is better, sadly), also they must learn to be part of society (e.g. not to throw food towards other people in restaurant while parents are letting him "be him/herself"). being good parent is hard job and there are too many people doing it wrongly.

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Kiki
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have told her, "You want to stick to gender roles and stereotypes? Then be seen and not heard and get back to the kitchen where you belong!"

Linouchka 99
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This clown didn't shut her down at all. She tried, but she did not succeed. And then she vented on Twitter. This being said, I'm glad this situation (violent and artificial masculinity being forced on boys and men from a very young age on) is finally, and more and more, seen and contested. I hope it will be History one day.

Suzi Gauthier
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, I am tired of reading things where people are shut down and then they are not. But I am glad she tried.

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JillVille
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My 4 yr old son asked to have his nails painted when his older sisters had a sleepover with all their girlfriends. The 7 & 8 yr old girls were thrilled to paint his nails every colour he asked for - toes too. He was just happy to be included. He's 15 now and still lets his sisters paint his nails on a Friday night and just takes it off before school on Monday. He's not warped by this. He's just happily hanging out with his family.

Fred Burrows
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm over 300 lbs of scary and I love butterflies . Nobody has ever said anything negative about it to my face ,

Cherie
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The mother was clearly someone who should never have been allowed to have children. Same for her ignorant husband. That poor child couldn't pick his parents.

Grumble O'Pug
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Add another f****d up Testosterone Poisoned kid to the mix. Parents probably think they are so cool. Ugh.

Wina Alkerchief
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's only a BUTTERFLY!!!! Why does his mom have to react so strongly to a BUTTERFLY!!!! My goodness.

Amanda Ford
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And he's only 4! And it's blue (a "boy" color)! They seriously need to get over themselves.

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Emily Glunz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's constant. My son loves pretty much all bright colors. Red, blue, green and pink. He has pink headphones for school, which he was taunted about day 1. But honestly, adults are worse. Adults comment if he picks out anything pink. Pink sunglasses with a camo shirt and race car backpack, they will always comment on the pink glasses over any other part of the outfit. When he picked out a pink dodge ball, the teller asked if he was sure that's the one he wanted. I could name dozens of examples. I'm in a supposedly very liberal area and he's only 6.

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Daria B
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I recall reading in an interview with the mother of Nicky Wire (may she rest in peace), that she was so glad her son (Nicky) turned out a bit feminine, because, having two sons, she didn't expect she'd have somebody to talk about "girly stuff". Paraphrased in simple words, of course, couldn't quote now because I couldn't find that interview on the web doing a quick search, anyway, the point is... Mothers, take example from this wise woman who let her sons be who they are and ended up raising up a famous rock star and a recognised poet by letting them shine.

Nostalgic Hyena
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've never liked traditional gender stereotypes, even as a young child. If I would've gone to some party where all the girls dressed as princesses and all the boys dressed as pirates, I would've wanted a third option.

Rebecah Ozuna
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6 years ago

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So being 'normal' is now mainstream? Girls menstruate and bring babies to life; it's our stereotype as female human beings. Are you offended by our roles? We may escape pregnancy, but never Aunt Flo.

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Monika Soffronow
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people should buy a perfect, beautiful doll that will never run, never get dirty and never develop a mind of their own instead of going through the hassle and shame of having to deal with a real human child! - - - When her son will have anxiety problems as a grown up, she will not understand why since she has always provided everything for him ... Poor kid!

Jay Broderick
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know someone who wouldn't let his son have sidewalk chalk because it was "too girly". Sidewalk chalk.

FABULOUS1
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My grandson loves to play with dress up when his sister and cousin play, and yes we let him put on the dress. He is a little boy and doesnt know the difference. He watches the girls and wants to join in the fun with them. Just like my granddaughter loves to play with rocks and loves insects and is not highly fond of dolls. Let children be children and allow their imaginations run wild, thats part of the fun of being a kid. Its doesnt make your son a sissy to want a butterfly face painting, to enjoy cooking or doing things that society says is only meant for the opposite sex.

Tanja Joensen
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Butterflies are beautiful. My baby boy is happily playing with his sisters dolls and he's so caring and happy. I think that every parent should respect their kids and their choices

Hard 2 Guess
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Keep in mind folks many dads don't hug or give kiss to their son. Not in my house I must hug my son when I leave for work and I must sneak in a little kiss on head. We have all different colors since he cant decide on favorite color. Including a pink chair for him. People need to let this stigmas go.

Effseven Six
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My little Male cousin whom I helped raise when I was 16 loved "girl"things as much as "boy"things. He had a sister, he was younger than her an desprerly wanted to be included with her every day. He was 4 and loved barbies as much as GI Joe, dress up, shoes, make up, and tea parties dressed in his army play outfit. . He grew up to be a 6'4 manly man who can dress a woman for the runway, and tear apart a car and put back it together. There is NOTHING wrong with exposing or letting a boy explore appreciate "girl" things.

Anne Reid
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a park ranger anger, girls would dutifully scream (as they were always told that bugs are “icky”) and the boys would cheer when I told them that they were on a field trip to study bugs. I would do face painting at community events & saw the same things reinforced.

Apollo
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poor butterflies. They didn't ask to be the center of a silly gender-discussion. They're just very cool insects. We should all love them.

phil blanque
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parents need to ask themselves...many times a day...if their choices are about their children or about themselves. They need to suppress their egos.

Carmen Elena
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a child I would love to play with cars and dolls as well. What´s the problem? I´ll never understand why we want boys to be... idk the word for this... a "macho men"? They´re kids! My daughter has fun with cars and plays football but she loves her disney princesses and be the "mom" for her "babies"... Can we just let them be? I feel sorry for that boy too...

Chuck Dundas
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Steve McQueen was a tough guy and he had a ‘papillon’ tatoo

ChocolatePink29
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This reminds me of when I worked at McDonald's and people would ask if we had toys for boys/girls when the Happy Meal toys were unisex. Or when kids asked for a specific toy and their parents said 'You can't have that toy, it's for girls/boys.' Seriously? It's just a toy, it's for whoever plays with it.

Chris Jones
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So many parents are just copying the methods their parents used to raise them - 'well I turned out all right' - well, you think you did regardless of any issues you might have! No effort into thinking if it was good or bad. That's how it was 'for me'. How about thinking a bit more deeply.

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Gvantsa
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6 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's so sad and heavy story. being a man you must teach your child so differently. if you really want your boy to grow masculine (if it's your only acceptable option) and strong teach him to protect what and who he loves, teach to protect weak, to protect unprotected nature too. so your child will grow real man and not that kind of trash without empathy who is showing his "masculinity" by being aggressive towards everything and everyone. girls really have much less troubles if they like sculls and football, especially if fathers are around. and girls in fact are more difficult to break. but it surely is their problem too.

Anne-Laure Rabatel
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When he was 5, my nephew loved fairies, his imaginary friend was a fairy. His parents never shamed him, they said he just had a lot of imagination. Now he's 15 years old. He's a confident, sensitive and open minded boy. Because his parents always let him be himself and play however he wanted to play. And he has lots of friends who are not imaginary.

Katarina Tržec
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My nephew, at the time 1,5 years old, saw my colorful lipstick collection and asked me if he could put makeup on me and himself. His mom said sure and I let him play. He painted his entire arm pink, purple and all the other colors he could find. I even drew little bee and ladybug on the back of his hand. He was so proud of himself and rushed to show it off to EVERYONE. Entire family was amused except his grandpa that yelled "you're not a girl" at him. And nothing broke my heart more than that tiny little excited boy returning back to me in shame and asking with tears in his eyes "auntie take it off". Let kids be whatever they want and stop projecting your own b******t onto them!

Joseph Barnett
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The parents are A-holes! Hopeless idiots, that just don't have a clue on how to be good parents!

Snowmonkey
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a dance teacher, my son (1.5 years old) comes to my classes and joins in. I've had to have the conversation with his grandmother about the fact that he enjoys it so I let him, according to her I shouldn't let him because boys don't dance they play sport. Well guess what lady mine does, both my husband and myself completely support him. If he wants to be a Prima Ballerina good on him, as long as his happy.

Carol Emory
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because what's more masculine than a 4-year old boy bawling his eyes out because mommy bullied him into getting something he didn't want? Some people just shouldn't be parents......

Carol Emory
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These are the same parents that kick their kids out of the home if they find out their son is gay or transgender. They're your fricken' kid! So you'd choose your beliefs and your pride over your own flesh and blood. How can people do that?

Miriam Brose
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I LOVE butterflies. And if I had a so'n and he wanted a f***Ing butterfly he would GET a f***Ing butterfly. Even if that insect would cover his entire face.

It's Lit
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is wrong. Why does everything have to have a label, even for something like this?And I think the little boy shoulda gotten the butterfly, because the fact that he likes beautiful things like that shouldn't be a reason to shame him just for that. Ridiculous the way the mother would rather make the clown paint something like a skull and crossbones than something beautiful in nature just because he's a BOY. Disgusting.

Jay
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is how my family works and it makes me so, so sad. Working hard on changing mentalities.

Roberta Soolook
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How could anyone be so mean to their kid? It would have made him so happy to have the design he wanted. I let my son have Barbies, a little loom that knit socks and a Cherry Merry Muffin dolls. He turned out to be a man who expresses himself freely. Yay!

Katinka Min
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This early gender-nonsense, especially with the colour insanity, didn't used to be so bad. Where the hell is this coming from???

Wim Cossement
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Girls can wear jeans and cut their hair short, wear shirts and boots. 'Cause it's OK to be a boy. But for a boy to look like a girl is degrading. 'Cause you think that being a girl is degrading. But secretly you'd love to know what it's like... Wouldn't you? What it feels like for a girl

snoozy womble
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate the idea that things are boys things and girls things only. My son is currently wandering around with his new favourite toy, a pink helicopter that transforms into some sort of robot thing. It has a heart on it. There were other options on his trip to but that toy: dinosaurs that roar, Transformers, TMNT, Avengers...but that helicopter was what he wanted and he loves it. Why would I or any parent want to take that joy away from their kids?

KT Trondsen
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a snotty mom. Getting her husvand in on it to intimidate as well. Poor kid

Kim Lorton
Community Member
6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the clown is totally correct. In men who were raised with sisters, and learned to share their emotions, like the girls, they turned out to be loving, understanding and well rounded men. This dominant macho s**t shaming needs to stop. That mom needs to be so ashamed of herself! But also, I’m pretty sure she is terrified of gay people, too. Maybe even afraid of her own emotions s and feelings she has never confronted, because of how she, was raised.

Tonja Massie
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My boy wants a butterfly? I have one thing to say. Can I have a matching one cuz it looks awesome!

linda giorgi
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He should have painted the skull... with a blue butterfly on the skull cheekbone... that's what I think is a real: "F**k YOU, MOM!" XD

Rodrigo Agostinho
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

people will not like what i have to say. but... i blame this gender theory stuff, nd gender identity on this. you have your pwesonality, there should not be such thing as masculine or feminine pinting, activities, sports... you do you . you dont need to question your sexuality and identity because you are a girl that likes football and beer, or a man that likes flowers and uses make up. you are you, no need to say you fell a woman or a man because your tastes dont go with what society wants. talking about gender identity, not transexuality, because they are two diferent things.

Nina Love
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dude I use to watch Sofia The First with my son, I didn't let him watch my little pony not because it was girly because .....people (fans) over sexualized a show about pony's, he knew how to read and look stuff up at age 4 I didn't want him stumbling upon My little pony .....fanart of....yeah.....but anything else that was considered girl he watched, when he was 7 someone was visiting with their 4 year old daughter who was playing dress up with mommy's clothes and heels, my 7 year old son walked in wearing high heels and said mommy look, I just told him to be careful on how he stepped into those heels. He one time was goofing off at age 10 and took rings that were meant for shower certain clipped them on his ears like earrings and came to me laughing saying look mommy i'm a girl , you know what did? I laughed grabbed my wig put it on his head and said " now you're a girl ". My ex husband was one of those....people. He did the whole that's for boys that's for girls stuff.

Tamara Kroonen
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I was that clown, I would have painted a blue butterfly, but with skulls on its wings. Hey, I did what you asked me to! *smug grin*

Sarah Tate
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So sad and frustrating. I used to teach horseback riding lessons and had one little boy who absolutely loved it. He was only 5 years old but his dad was so worried that it would "turn him gay" that the poor kid ended up not continuing with the sport. I mean seriously, WTF? I also have a friend who wanted to name her son Jake, but her husband was against it due to the role Jake Gyllenhaal played in Brokeback Mountain.??????? Sorry, but you are going to be the world's shittiest parent if you are that worried about your child's future sexuality. How fragile does your masculinity have to be to think like that? It baffles me!

Kesondra Key
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously valid point. Though I'd like to note that as a young tomboy who didnt like wearing girl clothes because they're crazy thin and often SEE THROUGH, I had a hell of a time as a kid. I was often made fun of and called a dike and didnt fit in with anybody. So it can be hard for tomboys too. These things really need to go away. People are just people.

Lisa Chambers
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dont actually give a f**k about what is drawn on the faces of children per their gender or whatever, but when it is my kid you best ask me before you touch my child. Parents are 100% in charge of their children. A child looking around during a face painting sesion may not have permission yet. You take the what is being painted to a whole new level just to distract that children cannot consent and the whole discussion of face painting 1, and what to get painted 2, is entirely between the child and the parent. Stop using this and your stupid "f*ck you voice" when dealing with parents or you wont have a job.

Charcoal Kitten
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate genders. How about we are all neither male or female? Much better if you ask me.

Marlene Jones
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

its sad. its disturbing how parents think and why they wont allow some things. so when this kid gets older and hes depressed or worse he gets a gun and blow his parent brains out there is no one to blame but mommy. well dad too for being so passive. ugh i hate this country right now and all the f****n a*****e republicans who despise gays, blacks, mexicans, transgenders.....you get the idea. i want a world where we care for one another and help each other and give to each other. it wont happen with this birdbrain we have running this counrty with his racist hateful ideas.

Dora Bedpan
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a strong bias towards gender stereotypes that is cultural : some colors or type of clothing are meant for girls and not boys. Can't wear pink or wear a dress or skirt or paint your nails if you're a guy. Pink used to be a masculine color in the XVIII century, men wore wigs and make-up, blue was the color of Mary, therefore a feminine color, and in the XVIIII all kids wore long dresses, boys and girls. Homophobia and transphobia are part of nowadays Heteronormativity.

Ann Abdelzaher
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My son adores cats, always has. When he was younger and would get face painting done he always asked to be a cat. even now Cats are his thing. He's 10 and has Cat ear headphones and has asked to be a black cat for Halloween because two of his best girl friends are going to be witches and he wants to coordinate with them. My husband keeps trying tell our son cats are for girls and he stands up for himself and says they aren't. Thankfully everyone knows that he adores cats and never tease him about it and even give him cat related things for presents. Even his guy friends don't hassle him about it which I think is awesome. Though he has limited his plush cats to the house or grandma and grandpa usually but always takes a plush cat on sleep overs.

Quinn Alexander
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man am I glad I didn't have parents that dictate my interests for me. Now let me make this clear; I am the most flagrant crossdresser you can imagine, so rest assured that when I say I absolutely adore violent movies and games, weapons of all shapes and sizes, and the beauty that is a throne of skulls, it's got nothing to do with male stereotypes; that s**t is just really f*****g cool in my eyes. Thanks for letting me wear dresses as I rend the flesh of my enemies from their bones, mom!

Minnie-me
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parents are the worst. If this kid has serious problems as he gets older we will know why

Abby Not Normal
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6 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These parents are incredibly insecure and the child is suffering because of it. This is very sad.

tigertae
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This world is so f****d up...... I'm so sad for the little boy.

Debster
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I let me son wear whatever he wants. He comes with me to get mani pedis. Guess where that started? Disney in the pirate area. So sure. I let him do whatever. Same goes for my daughter that has never had a girly party. She hates dolls. Look I grew up with 3 brothers. 2 of whom allowed me to dress them in bras, wigs, makeup, etc and then we'd go outside and tried to fool the neighborhood kids. My brothers Live telling the story. We only have one pic as proof.

Xina Imad
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i thought the face painter actually shamed the mom. that's not what i am reading. she complained after the fact. not the same thing as telling that mom off and refusing to draw something the child didn't want.

H. S.
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A wonderful compromise would have been a death head moth.

B
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a few gay and transgender friends and they are, by a long margin, the bravest people I know. Having to face up to small-minded bigots every day of your life must be daunting as hell, but knowing who you really are and having the tenacity to stick to your convictions is something that most of the haters will never experience or understand, and they're poorer for it.

Chris Pitch
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And teaching the child that you can speak to anyone any way you want, especially their parents, is not the smartest move either. There are other ways

phil blanque
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No......Brett you cannot have a butterfly, you f*g, you must have a powerful male symbol. You can only have some hidden ffff message. Yes hidden, so no one can see what a deep pervert you are. YEEEES this will take y0u to great heights....LISTEN TO THE DARK SIDE BRETT........LISTEN TO THE DARK SIDE..... WE ARE YOU....YOU ARE US....COME, COME, COME TO USSSSSSSSSSSS....

Marte Østensen
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've done lots of facepaints. F**k the parents. You're an artist and your client is the face you're painting. I can't go against what the child wants, they're their own person and I won't be a part of undermining them, even if it's just a face paint. I'm also a hairdresser and I never care about what hairstyle the parent want, I will never go against the wishes who's hair I'm cutting. Everybody, no matter age, is the boss of their own body

Sam Mandley
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have just painted the butterfly on his face anyway without telling the parents.

Cenk Karaferya
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pathetic, ghetto parents... some people just don't deserve to have children. Bad parenting.

Leo Domitrix
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6 years ago

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Christina Sersif
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

God forbid if that kid grows up to be gay or trans. I guess they would just disown him. SMH. Let kids be kids please.

The Girl on Fire
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So a girl can like guns and sports and such and people are like "hell yeah! do want you want girl!", but a boy likes nature, art, etc. and people call him either "gay" or "weak"? What the heck, America. Double standards much? This toxic masculinity thing is so troubling to me....

John Louis
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do face painting and balloon animals. You NEVER argue with the parent. End of Story, The woman should have been fired immediately and payment withheld. OBTY I agree with your story and have seen it many times.

Amber Zenteno
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dumb liberals. I agree with this mother. It's important to teach boys to be masculine. Women need men and men need women. It's important for parents to help their children conform to their gender. It's biology.

Adrián Kovács
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And it's impossible to be a "man" if you like butterflies. Sure, makes sense....

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Jordy Star
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6 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

first of all, you should have stopped at when the mother said, No she didn't want her son to have a butterfly on his damn face. Whether or not it was beautiful it aint you child. You don't control what goes on his face. and its none of your business how the mother feels about the kid getting a tattoo. At the end of the day you get paid either way so do ur job and mind ur own business. now im not condoning him getting cross bones either, if it were my child her wouldnt get either. But it aint my child so I dont get a say so in this and neither do you or anyone else who aint that kids mother or father. End of story

Vonskippy
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry, since when do I need some half a*s'd opinion from a "clown" on how to raise MY child. I give zero f***s about what a complete stranger thinks - you have NO clue about my family.

brandon sat
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

did anyone here ever think that maybe...just maybe she saw the clown paint a butterfly on another kid and it was pretty crappy...compared to the skull and crossbones??

Jennifer Erdossy
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've decided not to use ANY gender-specific pronouns anymore. It's ridiculous that every time we talk about an individual from the moment they're born, we need to notify the world of the type of genitals they have. Seriously. Every gender-specific name, every mention of "he/him" or "she/her" is just advertising which goodies they got. There is not a single reason to do this, and when that was pointed out to me, I got a little ragey, and decided to quit. Just say no to the patriarchy and its insistence on identification of genitals Every. Day. Of. Your. Life.

William Teach
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone's a Victim nowadays. And, everyone has a Story they want to tell, which is most likely made up, just like the others.

Little Menace
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6 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So what, parents will always stamp their ways onto their kids. They do far worse in religion to kids. Some teenage girls want to have their hair out in the wind but their parents tell her it is for infidels and they must wear a hijab. Kids want stuff, parents decide.

Little Menace
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6 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's always ok to appropriate girls or women. Men wearing lipsticks and who want their nails done and wear dresses. Everyone would fall over to say 'it's their right' !!!! But if you stand for, or believe in being 'manly' in a traditional sense, your head get's bitten off. As if it is not present in any animal in the world. Are males allowed to do what they want or not? If they are, they also have the right to believe in old fashioned manliness and teach their children what they believe is right. Or is one way superior, better and righter than the other? Lipstick/butterflies/tutus/unicorns = good in a man. Muscles/bravery/male colours, toys, games = The devil. Who made that decision and why?

Wonder Idowu
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6 years ago

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Why is it so important to try and make boys and consequentially men to be as soft and feminine as possible nowadays? What's wrong with trying to raise boys to be men?

Layla
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6 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Explain to me: HOW ON EARTH would having a tiny butterfly painted on his face for a couple of hours could POSSIBLY cause this boy to grow up to be less of a man? Is masculinity so fragile that it's damaged by a few grams of temporary paint on a FOUR YEAR OLDs face?

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Ben “Cujo” Ruckus
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6 years ago

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It's not your place to decide what is right for someone elses kid. It's because of idiots like you pushing YOUR agenda that we have a messed up society with all these identity disorders. Your job isn't just being a clown at parties. You ARE a clown.

John Smith
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6 years ago

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Plot spoiler: don't search Clown Shame on PornHub.

r3dd3v1lL
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6 years ago

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But skulls are much cooler and more badass than butterflies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

Tyler Duffy
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6 years ago

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Mom just didn't want her sun to get his a*s kicked, nothing wrong with that.

Lazy Panda
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the son was going to get his a*s kicked for having a butterfly on his face I’m very sure that the problem is a*****e kids and not the kid with a butterfly. How about we teach our sons not to bully others instead of teaching our sons that they can’t like anything feminine.

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John Smith
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Im telling you right now, if my son asks for a butterfly on his face, im gonna tell him that butterflies are for girls. He does not need to get a skull and crossbones, but he needs that guidance to know that there are some things that boys don't do......like putting butterflies on their faces.

Layla
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6 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Behold the amazing power of masculinity: It's so darn strong, it fails to withstand even 2 grams of temporary face paint in the shape of a butterfly. How ironic is it that you probably think fragility is for girls, yet evidently masculinity is the fragilest thing in this whole wide universe. Hilariously ironic and absolutely pathetic.

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Vonskippy
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So with a sample size of one you can make all your opinions into fact. You have ZERO info about the boy or his family except for the few minutes you met them. Must be scary to make up your mind, label the people, create a backstory (ooohhh, toxic masculinity - what the f**k does that even mean), and shame the parents. Gee, good thing you're not judgemental.

NoYFB
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boy wants a butterfly painted on his face, parents don't allow that to happen, they want something more masculine. Did I miss something? Boys are still taught to pretty much kill their softer side because that's what real men do. Men use more violence because they are not allowed to be weak or show their feelings.

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Rebecah Ozuna
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6 years ago

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Is there anything wrong with wanting our boys be boys, or our little girls to be little girls? Not every male HAS to be gay or trans. Children need parenting and guidance, if we let them do what they want, they could chose to become a rapist or murder somebody for pure fun just because mommy didn't coach them to be decent human beings. This clown is probably gay encouraging to make more gays and the mom had every right to educate her son to be a B.O.Y. Is that a crime??? People talk about being close-minded, but this post only shows your hypocrisy.

stellermatt
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

so a girl likes football and beer and she's labelled a Tomboy, instead of a girl who likes football and beer. a guy likes nature, butterflys, puppies and is labelled what? a sissy? instead of a boy who likes nature. why does everything have to have a label, a category, people like stuff, get over it! clown shoulda painted the butterfly anyway...

Amélie Bougie
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's exactly because of that that kind of labels that we get clichés like the « badass woman, one of the boys, not like the other women », meaning that other women only like to do the "girl things ", wich are considered superficial, you know : makeup, shopping, etc. This statement : " You know, I 'm not like the other girls. " is probably one of the less femenist of all time.

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Lazy Panda
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Toxic masculinity truly is disgusting. Very sad that a little boy couldn’t get a damn butterfly painted on his face, absolutely ridiculous

Suzi Gauthier
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if she would have let him have a bee. Are bees masculine? How about a cat? Is a cat feminine or masculine? A dog? What arbitrary rules.

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A Dyke From The Dreamworld
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, you're telling me this mother was terrified of a pretty blue butterfly and would rather have pieces of a corpse painted on her son? Jesus Christ, dude. Can we just like not dictate what our children are interested in like wtf dude

Gvantsa
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

children need CORRECT guidance of parents while they have some authority. we must "dictate" what they should NOT be interested in. we must teach them not to be interested in something terrible they can see somewhere accidentally (for example, my cousin (he was 4) saw how car killed cat. after few days he tried to kill neighbors cat. parents took good care of that problem and now he loves animals). it's sad how some parents are giving "absolute freedom" to their children while they have very weak understanding of good and evil, and no "social skills". we are living in cruel environment and it's teaching very bad things (but when parent is doing everything so wrong, like starting panic because of butterfly, letting kid do anything he wants is better, sadly), also they must learn to be part of society (e.g. not to throw food towards other people in restaurant while parents are letting him "be him/herself"). being good parent is hard job and there are too many people doing it wrongly.

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Kiki
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have told her, "You want to stick to gender roles and stereotypes? Then be seen and not heard and get back to the kitchen where you belong!"

Linouchka 99
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This clown didn't shut her down at all. She tried, but she did not succeed. And then she vented on Twitter. This being said, I'm glad this situation (violent and artificial masculinity being forced on boys and men from a very young age on) is finally, and more and more, seen and contested. I hope it will be History one day.

Suzi Gauthier
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, I am tired of reading things where people are shut down and then they are not. But I am glad she tried.

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JillVille
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My 4 yr old son asked to have his nails painted when his older sisters had a sleepover with all their girlfriends. The 7 & 8 yr old girls were thrilled to paint his nails every colour he asked for - toes too. He was just happy to be included. He's 15 now and still lets his sisters paint his nails on a Friday night and just takes it off before school on Monday. He's not warped by this. He's just happily hanging out with his family.

Fred Burrows
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm over 300 lbs of scary and I love butterflies . Nobody has ever said anything negative about it to my face ,

Cherie
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The mother was clearly someone who should never have been allowed to have children. Same for her ignorant husband. That poor child couldn't pick his parents.

Grumble O'Pug
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Add another f****d up Testosterone Poisoned kid to the mix. Parents probably think they are so cool. Ugh.

Wina Alkerchief
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's only a BUTTERFLY!!!! Why does his mom have to react so strongly to a BUTTERFLY!!!! My goodness.

Amanda Ford
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And he's only 4! And it's blue (a "boy" color)! They seriously need to get over themselves.

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Emily Glunz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's constant. My son loves pretty much all bright colors. Red, blue, green and pink. He has pink headphones for school, which he was taunted about day 1. But honestly, adults are worse. Adults comment if he picks out anything pink. Pink sunglasses with a camo shirt and race car backpack, they will always comment on the pink glasses over any other part of the outfit. When he picked out a pink dodge ball, the teller asked if he was sure that's the one he wanted. I could name dozens of examples. I'm in a supposedly very liberal area and he's only 6.

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Daria B
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I recall reading in an interview with the mother of Nicky Wire (may she rest in peace), that she was so glad her son (Nicky) turned out a bit feminine, because, having two sons, she didn't expect she'd have somebody to talk about "girly stuff". Paraphrased in simple words, of course, couldn't quote now because I couldn't find that interview on the web doing a quick search, anyway, the point is... Mothers, take example from this wise woman who let her sons be who they are and ended up raising up a famous rock star and a recognised poet by letting them shine.

Nostalgic Hyena
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've never liked traditional gender stereotypes, even as a young child. If I would've gone to some party where all the girls dressed as princesses and all the boys dressed as pirates, I would've wanted a third option.

Rebecah Ozuna
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6 years ago

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So being 'normal' is now mainstream? Girls menstruate and bring babies to life; it's our stereotype as female human beings. Are you offended by our roles? We may escape pregnancy, but never Aunt Flo.

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Monika Soffronow
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people should buy a perfect, beautiful doll that will never run, never get dirty and never develop a mind of their own instead of going through the hassle and shame of having to deal with a real human child! - - - When her son will have anxiety problems as a grown up, she will not understand why since she has always provided everything for him ... Poor kid!

Jay Broderick
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know someone who wouldn't let his son have sidewalk chalk because it was "too girly". Sidewalk chalk.

FABULOUS1
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My grandson loves to play with dress up when his sister and cousin play, and yes we let him put on the dress. He is a little boy and doesnt know the difference. He watches the girls and wants to join in the fun with them. Just like my granddaughter loves to play with rocks and loves insects and is not highly fond of dolls. Let children be children and allow their imaginations run wild, thats part of the fun of being a kid. Its doesnt make your son a sissy to want a butterfly face painting, to enjoy cooking or doing things that society says is only meant for the opposite sex.

Tanja Joensen
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Butterflies are beautiful. My baby boy is happily playing with his sisters dolls and he's so caring and happy. I think that every parent should respect their kids and their choices

Hard 2 Guess
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Keep in mind folks many dads don't hug or give kiss to their son. Not in my house I must hug my son when I leave for work and I must sneak in a little kiss on head. We have all different colors since he cant decide on favorite color. Including a pink chair for him. People need to let this stigmas go.

Effseven Six
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My little Male cousin whom I helped raise when I was 16 loved "girl"things as much as "boy"things. He had a sister, he was younger than her an desprerly wanted to be included with her every day. He was 4 and loved barbies as much as GI Joe, dress up, shoes, make up, and tea parties dressed in his army play outfit. . He grew up to be a 6'4 manly man who can dress a woman for the runway, and tear apart a car and put back it together. There is NOTHING wrong with exposing or letting a boy explore appreciate "girl" things.

Anne Reid
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a park ranger anger, girls would dutifully scream (as they were always told that bugs are “icky”) and the boys would cheer when I told them that they were on a field trip to study bugs. I would do face painting at community events & saw the same things reinforced.

Apollo
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poor butterflies. They didn't ask to be the center of a silly gender-discussion. They're just very cool insects. We should all love them.

phil blanque
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parents need to ask themselves...many times a day...if their choices are about their children or about themselves. They need to suppress their egos.

Carmen Elena
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a child I would love to play with cars and dolls as well. What´s the problem? I´ll never understand why we want boys to be... idk the word for this... a "macho men"? They´re kids! My daughter has fun with cars and plays football but she loves her disney princesses and be the "mom" for her "babies"... Can we just let them be? I feel sorry for that boy too...

Chuck Dundas
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Steve McQueen was a tough guy and he had a ‘papillon’ tatoo

ChocolatePink29
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This reminds me of when I worked at McDonald's and people would ask if we had toys for boys/girls when the Happy Meal toys were unisex. Or when kids asked for a specific toy and their parents said 'You can't have that toy, it's for girls/boys.' Seriously? It's just a toy, it's for whoever plays with it.

Chris Jones
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So many parents are just copying the methods their parents used to raise them - 'well I turned out all right' - well, you think you did regardless of any issues you might have! No effort into thinking if it was good or bad. That's how it was 'for me'. How about thinking a bit more deeply.

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Gvantsa
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6 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's so sad and heavy story. being a man you must teach your child so differently. if you really want your boy to grow masculine (if it's your only acceptable option) and strong teach him to protect what and who he loves, teach to protect weak, to protect unprotected nature too. so your child will grow real man and not that kind of trash without empathy who is showing his "masculinity" by being aggressive towards everything and everyone. girls really have much less troubles if they like sculls and football, especially if fathers are around. and girls in fact are more difficult to break. but it surely is their problem too.

Anne-Laure Rabatel
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When he was 5, my nephew loved fairies, his imaginary friend was a fairy. His parents never shamed him, they said he just had a lot of imagination. Now he's 15 years old. He's a confident, sensitive and open minded boy. Because his parents always let him be himself and play however he wanted to play. And he has lots of friends who are not imaginary.

Katarina Tržec
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My nephew, at the time 1,5 years old, saw my colorful lipstick collection and asked me if he could put makeup on me and himself. His mom said sure and I let him play. He painted his entire arm pink, purple and all the other colors he could find. I even drew little bee and ladybug on the back of his hand. He was so proud of himself and rushed to show it off to EVERYONE. Entire family was amused except his grandpa that yelled "you're not a girl" at him. And nothing broke my heart more than that tiny little excited boy returning back to me in shame and asking with tears in his eyes "auntie take it off". Let kids be whatever they want and stop projecting your own b******t onto them!

Joseph Barnett
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The parents are A-holes! Hopeless idiots, that just don't have a clue on how to be good parents!

Snowmonkey
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a dance teacher, my son (1.5 years old) comes to my classes and joins in. I've had to have the conversation with his grandmother about the fact that he enjoys it so I let him, according to her I shouldn't let him because boys don't dance they play sport. Well guess what lady mine does, both my husband and myself completely support him. If he wants to be a Prima Ballerina good on him, as long as his happy.

Carol Emory
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because what's more masculine than a 4-year old boy bawling his eyes out because mommy bullied him into getting something he didn't want? Some people just shouldn't be parents......

Carol Emory
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These are the same parents that kick their kids out of the home if they find out their son is gay or transgender. They're your fricken' kid! So you'd choose your beliefs and your pride over your own flesh and blood. How can people do that?

Miriam Brose
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I LOVE butterflies. And if I had a so'n and he wanted a f***Ing butterfly he would GET a f***Ing butterfly. Even if that insect would cover his entire face.

It's Lit
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is wrong. Why does everything have to have a label, even for something like this?And I think the little boy shoulda gotten the butterfly, because the fact that he likes beautiful things like that shouldn't be a reason to shame him just for that. Ridiculous the way the mother would rather make the clown paint something like a skull and crossbones than something beautiful in nature just because he's a BOY. Disgusting.

Jay
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is how my family works and it makes me so, so sad. Working hard on changing mentalities.

Roberta Soolook
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How could anyone be so mean to their kid? It would have made him so happy to have the design he wanted. I let my son have Barbies, a little loom that knit socks and a Cherry Merry Muffin dolls. He turned out to be a man who expresses himself freely. Yay!

Katinka Min
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This early gender-nonsense, especially with the colour insanity, didn't used to be so bad. Where the hell is this coming from???

Wim Cossement
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Girls can wear jeans and cut their hair short, wear shirts and boots. 'Cause it's OK to be a boy. But for a boy to look like a girl is degrading. 'Cause you think that being a girl is degrading. But secretly you'd love to know what it's like... Wouldn't you? What it feels like for a girl

snoozy womble
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate the idea that things are boys things and girls things only. My son is currently wandering around with his new favourite toy, a pink helicopter that transforms into some sort of robot thing. It has a heart on it. There were other options on his trip to but that toy: dinosaurs that roar, Transformers, TMNT, Avengers...but that helicopter was what he wanted and he loves it. Why would I or any parent want to take that joy away from their kids?

KT Trondsen
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a snotty mom. Getting her husvand in on it to intimidate as well. Poor kid

Kim Lorton
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the clown is totally correct. In men who were raised with sisters, and learned to share their emotions, like the girls, they turned out to be loving, understanding and well rounded men. This dominant macho s**t shaming needs to stop. That mom needs to be so ashamed of herself! But also, I’m pretty sure she is terrified of gay people, too. Maybe even afraid of her own emotions s and feelings she has never confronted, because of how she, was raised.

Tonja Massie
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My boy wants a butterfly? I have one thing to say. Can I have a matching one cuz it looks awesome!

linda giorgi
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He should have painted the skull... with a blue butterfly on the skull cheekbone... that's what I think is a real: "F**k YOU, MOM!" XD

Rodrigo Agostinho
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

people will not like what i have to say. but... i blame this gender theory stuff, nd gender identity on this. you have your pwesonality, there should not be such thing as masculine or feminine pinting, activities, sports... you do you . you dont need to question your sexuality and identity because you are a girl that likes football and beer, or a man that likes flowers and uses make up. you are you, no need to say you fell a woman or a man because your tastes dont go with what society wants. talking about gender identity, not transexuality, because they are two diferent things.

Nina Love
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dude I use to watch Sofia The First with my son, I didn't let him watch my little pony not because it was girly because .....people (fans) over sexualized a show about pony's, he knew how to read and look stuff up at age 4 I didn't want him stumbling upon My little pony .....fanart of....yeah.....but anything else that was considered girl he watched, when he was 7 someone was visiting with their 4 year old daughter who was playing dress up with mommy's clothes and heels, my 7 year old son walked in wearing high heels and said mommy look, I just told him to be careful on how he stepped into those heels. He one time was goofing off at age 10 and took rings that were meant for shower certain clipped them on his ears like earrings and came to me laughing saying look mommy i'm a girl , you know what did? I laughed grabbed my wig put it on his head and said " now you're a girl ". My ex husband was one of those....people. He did the whole that's for boys that's for girls stuff.

Tamara Kroonen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I was that clown, I would have painted a blue butterfly, but with skulls on its wings. Hey, I did what you asked me to! *smug grin*

Sarah Tate
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So sad and frustrating. I used to teach horseback riding lessons and had one little boy who absolutely loved it. He was only 5 years old but his dad was so worried that it would "turn him gay" that the poor kid ended up not continuing with the sport. I mean seriously, WTF? I also have a friend who wanted to name her son Jake, but her husband was against it due to the role Jake Gyllenhaal played in Brokeback Mountain.??????? Sorry, but you are going to be the world's shittiest parent if you are that worried about your child's future sexuality. How fragile does your masculinity have to be to think like that? It baffles me!

Kesondra Key
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously valid point. Though I'd like to note that as a young tomboy who didnt like wearing girl clothes because they're crazy thin and often SEE THROUGH, I had a hell of a time as a kid. I was often made fun of and called a dike and didnt fit in with anybody. So it can be hard for tomboys too. These things really need to go away. People are just people.

Lisa Chambers
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dont actually give a f**k about what is drawn on the faces of children per their gender or whatever, but when it is my kid you best ask me before you touch my child. Parents are 100% in charge of their children. A child looking around during a face painting sesion may not have permission yet. You take the what is being painted to a whole new level just to distract that children cannot consent and the whole discussion of face painting 1, and what to get painted 2, is entirely between the child and the parent. Stop using this and your stupid "f*ck you voice" when dealing with parents or you wont have a job.

Charcoal Kitten
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate genders. How about we are all neither male or female? Much better if you ask me.

Marlene Jones
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

its sad. its disturbing how parents think and why they wont allow some things. so when this kid gets older and hes depressed or worse he gets a gun and blow his parent brains out there is no one to blame but mommy. well dad too for being so passive. ugh i hate this country right now and all the f****n a*****e republicans who despise gays, blacks, mexicans, transgenders.....you get the idea. i want a world where we care for one another and help each other and give to each other. it wont happen with this birdbrain we have running this counrty with his racist hateful ideas.

Dora Bedpan
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a strong bias towards gender stereotypes that is cultural : some colors or type of clothing are meant for girls and not boys. Can't wear pink or wear a dress or skirt or paint your nails if you're a guy. Pink used to be a masculine color in the XVIII century, men wore wigs and make-up, blue was the color of Mary, therefore a feminine color, and in the XVIIII all kids wore long dresses, boys and girls. Homophobia and transphobia are part of nowadays Heteronormativity.

Ann Abdelzaher
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My son adores cats, always has. When he was younger and would get face painting done he always asked to be a cat. even now Cats are his thing. He's 10 and has Cat ear headphones and has asked to be a black cat for Halloween because two of his best girl friends are going to be witches and he wants to coordinate with them. My husband keeps trying tell our son cats are for girls and he stands up for himself and says they aren't. Thankfully everyone knows that he adores cats and never tease him about it and even give him cat related things for presents. Even his guy friends don't hassle him about it which I think is awesome. Though he has limited his plush cats to the house or grandma and grandpa usually but always takes a plush cat on sleep overs.

Quinn Alexander
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Man am I glad I didn't have parents that dictate my interests for me. Now let me make this clear; I am the most flagrant crossdresser you can imagine, so rest assured that when I say I absolutely adore violent movies and games, weapons of all shapes and sizes, and the beauty that is a throne of skulls, it's got nothing to do with male stereotypes; that s**t is just really f*****g cool in my eyes. Thanks for letting me wear dresses as I rend the flesh of my enemies from their bones, mom!

Minnie-me
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parents are the worst. If this kid has serious problems as he gets older we will know why

Abby Not Normal
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6 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These parents are incredibly insecure and the child is suffering because of it. This is very sad.

tigertae
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This world is so f****d up...... I'm so sad for the little boy.

Debster
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I let me son wear whatever he wants. He comes with me to get mani pedis. Guess where that started? Disney in the pirate area. So sure. I let him do whatever. Same goes for my daughter that has never had a girly party. She hates dolls. Look I grew up with 3 brothers. 2 of whom allowed me to dress them in bras, wigs, makeup, etc and then we'd go outside and tried to fool the neighborhood kids. My brothers Live telling the story. We only have one pic as proof.

Xina Imad
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i thought the face painter actually shamed the mom. that's not what i am reading. she complained after the fact. not the same thing as telling that mom off and refusing to draw something the child didn't want.

H. S.
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A wonderful compromise would have been a death head moth.

B
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a few gay and transgender friends and they are, by a long margin, the bravest people I know. Having to face up to small-minded bigots every day of your life must be daunting as hell, but knowing who you really are and having the tenacity to stick to your convictions is something that most of the haters will never experience or understand, and they're poorer for it.

Chris Pitch
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And teaching the child that you can speak to anyone any way you want, especially their parents, is not the smartest move either. There are other ways

phil blanque
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No......Brett you cannot have a butterfly, you f*g, you must have a powerful male symbol. You can only have some hidden ffff message. Yes hidden, so no one can see what a deep pervert you are. YEEEES this will take y0u to great heights....LISTEN TO THE DARK SIDE BRETT........LISTEN TO THE DARK SIDE..... WE ARE YOU....YOU ARE US....COME, COME, COME TO USSSSSSSSSSSS....

Marte Østensen
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've done lots of facepaints. F**k the parents. You're an artist and your client is the face you're painting. I can't go against what the child wants, they're their own person and I won't be a part of undermining them, even if it's just a face paint. I'm also a hairdresser and I never care about what hairstyle the parent want, I will never go against the wishes who's hair I'm cutting. Everybody, no matter age, is the boss of their own body

Sam Mandley
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have just painted the butterfly on his face anyway without telling the parents.

Cenk Karaferya
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pathetic, ghetto parents... some people just don't deserve to have children. Bad parenting.

Leo Domitrix
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6 years ago

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Christina Sersif
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

God forbid if that kid grows up to be gay or trans. I guess they would just disown him. SMH. Let kids be kids please.

The Girl on Fire
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So a girl can like guns and sports and such and people are like "hell yeah! do want you want girl!", but a boy likes nature, art, etc. and people call him either "gay" or "weak"? What the heck, America. Double standards much? This toxic masculinity thing is so troubling to me....

John Louis
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do face painting and balloon animals. You NEVER argue with the parent. End of Story, The woman should have been fired immediately and payment withheld. OBTY I agree with your story and have seen it many times.

Amber Zenteno
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dumb liberals. I agree with this mother. It's important to teach boys to be masculine. Women need men and men need women. It's important for parents to help their children conform to their gender. It's biology.

Adrián Kovács
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And it's impossible to be a "man" if you like butterflies. Sure, makes sense....

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Jordy Star
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6 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

first of all, you should have stopped at when the mother said, No she didn't want her son to have a butterfly on his damn face. Whether or not it was beautiful it aint you child. You don't control what goes on his face. and its none of your business how the mother feels about the kid getting a tattoo. At the end of the day you get paid either way so do ur job and mind ur own business. now im not condoning him getting cross bones either, if it were my child her wouldnt get either. But it aint my child so I dont get a say so in this and neither do you or anyone else who aint that kids mother or father. End of story

Vonskippy
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry, since when do I need some half a*s'd opinion from a "clown" on how to raise MY child. I give zero f***s about what a complete stranger thinks - you have NO clue about my family.

brandon sat
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

did anyone here ever think that maybe...just maybe she saw the clown paint a butterfly on another kid and it was pretty crappy...compared to the skull and crossbones??

Jennifer Erdossy
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've decided not to use ANY gender-specific pronouns anymore. It's ridiculous that every time we talk about an individual from the moment they're born, we need to notify the world of the type of genitals they have. Seriously. Every gender-specific name, every mention of "he/him" or "she/her" is just advertising which goodies they got. There is not a single reason to do this, and when that was pointed out to me, I got a little ragey, and decided to quit. Just say no to the patriarchy and its insistence on identification of genitals Every. Day. Of. Your. Life.

William Teach
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone's a Victim nowadays. And, everyone has a Story they want to tell, which is most likely made up, just like the others.

Little Menace
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6 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So what, parents will always stamp their ways onto their kids. They do far worse in religion to kids. Some teenage girls want to have their hair out in the wind but their parents tell her it is for infidels and they must wear a hijab. Kids want stuff, parents decide.

Little Menace
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6 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's always ok to appropriate girls or women. Men wearing lipsticks and who want their nails done and wear dresses. Everyone would fall over to say 'it's their right' !!!! But if you stand for, or believe in being 'manly' in a traditional sense, your head get's bitten off. As if it is not present in any animal in the world. Are males allowed to do what they want or not? If they are, they also have the right to believe in old fashioned manliness and teach their children what they believe is right. Or is one way superior, better and righter than the other? Lipstick/butterflies/tutus/unicorns = good in a man. Muscles/bravery/male colours, toys, games = The devil. Who made that decision and why?

Wonder Idowu
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6 years ago

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Why is it so important to try and make boys and consequentially men to be as soft and feminine as possible nowadays? What's wrong with trying to raise boys to be men?

Layla
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6 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Explain to me: HOW ON EARTH would having a tiny butterfly painted on his face for a couple of hours could POSSIBLY cause this boy to grow up to be less of a man? Is masculinity so fragile that it's damaged by a few grams of temporary paint on a FOUR YEAR OLDs face?

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Ben “Cujo” Ruckus
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6 years ago

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It's not your place to decide what is right for someone elses kid. It's because of idiots like you pushing YOUR agenda that we have a messed up society with all these identity disorders. Your job isn't just being a clown at parties. You ARE a clown.

John Smith
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6 years ago

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Plot spoiler: don't search Clown Shame on PornHub.

r3dd3v1lL
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6 years ago

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But skulls are much cooler and more badass than butterflies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

Tyler Duffy
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6 years ago

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Mom just didn't want her sun to get his a*s kicked, nothing wrong with that.

Lazy Panda
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the son was going to get his a*s kicked for having a butterfly on his face I’m very sure that the problem is a*****e kids and not the kid with a butterfly. How about we teach our sons not to bully others instead of teaching our sons that they can’t like anything feminine.

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John Smith
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6 years ago

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Im telling you right now, if my son asks for a butterfly on his face, im gonna tell him that butterflies are for girls. He does not need to get a skull and crossbones, but he needs that guidance to know that there are some things that boys don't do......like putting butterflies on their faces.

Layla
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6 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Behold the amazing power of masculinity: It's so darn strong, it fails to withstand even 2 grams of temporary face paint in the shape of a butterfly. How ironic is it that you probably think fragility is for girls, yet evidently masculinity is the fragilest thing in this whole wide universe. Hilariously ironic and absolutely pathetic.

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Vonskippy
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6 years ago

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So with a sample size of one you can make all your opinions into fact. You have ZERO info about the boy or his family except for the few minutes you met them. Must be scary to make up your mind, label the people, create a backstory (ooohhh, toxic masculinity - what the f**k does that even mean), and shame the parents. Gee, good thing you're not judgemental.

NoYFB
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6 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boy wants a butterfly painted on his face, parents don't allow that to happen, they want something more masculine. Did I miss something? Boys are still taught to pretty much kill their softer side because that's what real men do. Men use more violence because they are not allowed to be weak or show their feelings.

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Rebecah Ozuna
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6 years ago

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Is there anything wrong with wanting our boys be boys, or our little girls to be little girls? Not every male HAS to be gay or trans. Children need parenting and guidance, if we let them do what they want, they could chose to become a rapist or murder somebody for pure fun just because mommy didn't coach them to be decent human beings. This clown is probably gay encouraging to make more gays and the mom had every right to educate her son to be a B.O.Y. Is that a crime??? People talk about being close-minded, but this post only shows your hypocrisy.

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