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Airline Defends Kicking Celebrity And Kids Off Flight Over “Entitled” Allergy Request
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Airline Defends Kicking Celebrity And Kids Off Flight Over “Entitled” Allergy Request

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A freelance BBC weather presenter, her husband, and her two kids were booted off a plane for requesting that fellow passengers on the flight not consume peanuts.

Georgie Palmer, 49, was aboard a SunExpress flight from London Gatwick to Dalaman in Turkey on Tuesday, May 28, when the incident took place. Her husband, Nick Sollom, 48, and their two daughters, Rosie, 12, and Annie, 14, were also traveling with her.

Highlights
  • Georgie Palmer, her husband, and their two kids were removed from a SunExpress flight after requesting that passengers refrain from eating peanuts
  • The weather presenter initially asked the flight crew to make an announcement asking passengers not to consume peanuts on the flight
  • Georgie's request was turned down, and the airline later said in a statement that they cannot guarantee an allergen-free environment on flights

The British TV personality initially asked the flight’s captain to make a standard announcement asking passengers not to eat peanuts because of her daughter’s allergy. However, when the flight’s crew turned down her request, the mother took matters into her own hands and began asking the passengers around her not to eat peanuts. She also asked them to pass on the message to other passengers.

Georgie Palmer took to social media to share her woes of being kicked off a plane over an issue related to her daughter’s peanut allergy

Image credits: TEDx Talks

“The SunExpress captain and cabin crew refused to make the standard announcement on behalf of our daughter,” Georgie wrote in an Instagram post, as quoted by The Sun. “We gently asked the passengers at the front of the plane to share our request.”

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“Row by row, all the passengers turned back to kindly ask the row behind to please not eat nuts on the flight,” she continued.

“It was calm, earnest and with an overwhelming sense of solidarity and empathy,” she added.

“There’s no beef with simple asks like these. People get it!” she said.

Although fellow fliers were ready to comply, the flight captain eventually asked her and her family to de-board the plane before takeoff, she said.

“We were hoofed off the plane after the angry little captain shouted at us from the cockpit,” she wrote.

The 49-year-old mother was traveling with her husband and their two daughters, aged 12 and 14, when the incident took place

Image credits: msgeorgiepalmer

The conundrum led to the family having to pay an extra $6,377 (£5,000) to book into an airport hotel and catch an EasyJet flight to Dalaman the next day. The flight made several announcements asking passengers to refrain from opening peanut packets aboard the flight, according to BBC London.

In her Instagram post, Georgie took a moment to thank the passengers on the plane for paying heed to her request.

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“I thanked the beautiful souls on our plane for helping us,” she said. “Many of them hugged, cheered and held our hands as we were forced to disembark.”

Crew members aboard the SunExpress flight reportedly turned down the mother’s request to announce to passengers not to consume peanuts due to her daughter’s allergy

Airline Defends Kicking Celebrity And Kids Off Flight Over “Entitled” Allergy Request

Image credits: msgeorgiepalmer

Following the incident, the TV personality said she hopes the Turkish-German airline will “take notice” of the incident.

She revealed while speaking to BBC London that the crew members got “very defensive” when she asked them to make the announcement and was “horrified” when they turned her down.

“My ask is for the airline industry as a whole to take notice of this,” she told the outlet. “What are your policies about nuts – make that crystal clear on your website.

“Allow your passengers the choice to know whether it is safe to fly with you,” she continued. “As we know, you can never enforce an entirely nut-free environment – can we not take a leaf out of the book of restaurants who go to great efforts these days to protect people?”

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When the flight crew did not pay heed, Georgie asked fellow passengers not to consume peanuts and said they were willing to comply

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A spokesperson for SunExpress acknowledged the incident but noted that the airline avoids making such announcements because they cannot guarantee an “allergen-free environment” on flights.

“We refrain from making these kinds of announcements as, like many other airlines, we cannot guarantee an allergen-free environment on our flights, nor prevent other passengers from bringing food items containing allergens on board,” the spokesperson told the outlet.

They said in their statement that a member of the family turned “aggressive” and even tried to gain access to the cockpit.

“Due to the insistent behavior of the passenger to others on board that they should not consume nuts, the captain decided it would be safest if the family did not travel on our flight,” the spokesperson continued. “When this was explained to the passenger, he exhibited aggressive behaviour towards our crew members, and tried to gain access to the cockpit.”

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The “angry little captain” shouted from the cockpit and eventually had the family “hoofed off the plane,” the TV personality said

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“To ensure the safety of our crew and passengers, we don’t tolerate aggressive and unruly behavior on our flights,” they added.

SunExpress also noted that passengers are expected to notify the airline 48 hours prior to departure in case any special care is needed due to a medical condition. They also said this information is included on their website.

However, “no such notification was received from the passengers in this instance,” SunExpress told the outlet.

The airline nevertheless acknowledged that the series of events would have been “upsetting” for Georgie and her family, and they will be “conducting a review of the information provided” during their ticket-booking procedure.

The airline addressed the incident and claimed they had to throw the family out because of their “aggressive and unruly behavior”

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In response to the airline’s claim about them being “aggressive,” the TV personality said it was “absolute nonsense.”

“It’s simply not true. There was no aggressive behaviour from us,” she said and hoped her fellow fliers would agree.

Georgie noted that the flight’s pilot spoke to them about the issue at some point before going inside the cockpit and closing the door. When her husband tried to speak to him again, she said he knocked on the door of the cockpit but did not try to enter the cockpit as the airline’s statement suggested.

Normally it is the airline that makes its own policy when it comes to handling food allergies, according to Independent.

While Virgin Atlantic states that peanuts “are never knowingly included in any of our meals on board,” Emirates maintains that they “serve nuts on all our flights, either as a meal ingredient or as an accompaniment to drinks. Traces of nut residue could be passed on to other surfaces of the aircraft as well as through the air conditioning system.”

BBC London reported that British Airways, EasyJet, Ryanair, and Jet2 are among those airlines willing to make announcements and also not serve nuts upon requests from passengers.

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People had mixed feelings about the situation, with some picking the mother’s side and others reasoning with the pilot

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Zoe Vokes
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you have an allergy that extreme you need to let the airline know in advance. It’s not just about “not serving peanuts” there are other foods than might trigger a reaction. If the airline knew in advance then they could have made sure all meals served were nut free and let passengers know in advance. It’s safest for the airline to remove the family rather than have a medical emergency in the air, especially if the family is causing a fuss already.

Jeevesssssss
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I literally just replied saying exactly this! What happens should she react to the allergen present in a meal, up in the air in a tin can??

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Sian E
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Celebrity is a bit of an exaggeration here, BP! But has nobody thought to contact the other passengers to verify whether or not there was any aggression from the family?

Marcellus II
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the other passengers have better things to do than answer questions about this "celebrity" that i've never heard of.

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Jrog
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Already had this discussion in another thread. Scientific studies disproved *thoroughly* the claim that eating peanuts close to an allergic person in a plane could cause a reaction. Touching surfaces contaminated with peanut dust may in the worst cases create some skin reaction, but it is also a very remote possibility happening only to the most extreme cases of allergies. The only effects measured were psychological: when people were unaware of other people eating peanuts in the same space they had no effect, if they knew they believed to feel effects. No objective physical effects can be measured. I listed several peer-reviewed studies and documents from reputable sources on another thread, but BP search function sucks.

Alexandra
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In that case the parents are even more dimwitted, because you would expect them to know about these studies since it has a serious bearing on their child's condition. Ignorance makes the whole plane not eat peanuts, I guess.

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kissmychakram
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

£6K for overnight hotel at Gatwick and next day flights to Turkey? How TF did it cost that much? Even if they flew business class on BA + airport hotel it shouldn't have cost more than 2K at absolute most. What am I missing?

Corvus
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Peanuts only cause an allergy if you eat them... not when someone ELSE in the room eats them. And I don't think it's possible to inhale peanut particles and get a reaction from afar. So the woman's request was unreasonable and unnecessary.

FreeTheUnicorn
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why on Earth would the pilot be involved with catering? Speak to the team lead of the flight attendants. I have some dietary issues (not life threatening to be in the same cabin as anything, just things that can trigger asthma and vomiting if ingested so best avoided) and I mention when booking. Most airlines are in touch nearly immediately to double check there's no concern with other passengers' food, and Aer Lingus and KLM both were in touch again about 72 hours before to recheck. So if it wasn't mentioned at booking, it's hardly the airlines fault. If it is a life threatening allergy you have to be proactive.

Ace
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No way did a hotel for one night and last-minute easyjet flights cost them 5 grand.

Melissa anderson
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Entitled Karen should have made precautions and alerted the airline while making the reservations. She really has no right to demand paying customers bend to her will.

Tabitha
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I thought, after 9/11, that it’s illegal to approach the cockpit and bang on the door. Those doors are locked for a very good reason. The husband here was being overly aggressive by doing exactly that. I am pretty sure there was way more bad behavior on the part of this family, thinking their “celebrity” status should make all the other passengers automatically bow to their demands. Looks like they found out non-“celebrities” don’t give a fat rat’s a*s who you are, especially if you’re acting like a spoiled brat.

Dom!!!
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

she ruined her whole argument by talking c**p about the captain, had she not said that, then her story would have been legit

Marianne
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She asked for a "standard announcement". Is that a thing? I've never heard of that before. And although I would totally accomodate this family and not eat nuts around them, I think it's too dangerous for her family to even enter a confined space with 200 strangers with a severe allergy like that. There is always a person who doesn't care even if there had been an announcement.

Cassie
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Research indicates no risk from air circulation in airplanes for peanut allergy sufferers. The real risk is surface contamination, which would require advanced notice for such a thorough cleaning. It's not reasonable to believe that other passengers eating nuts elsewhere on the plane is your greatest risk rather than the surfaces you're touching. If you have a peanut allergy to the point of asking people on a plane to not eat peanuts, it is not safe for you to be in that plane at all and removing you from the flight is the airline's best option to protect you from your allergen and themselves from liability. If you have this kind of allergy, you should endeavor to be more knowledgeable on the topic prior to public excursions.

Sheba's Mum
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Next they'll be asking people not to eat meat on the flight because they're vegan, or can't have milk they're lactose intolerant.

Aidan Campbell
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It should be notified to the airline in advance. I was on a flight recently and after everyone had boarded there was an announcement that a passenger has a peanut allergy.

George D
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Biscoff, my friends. The answer to all. With that said, the airline did the right thing. If your nut allergy is so severe that everyone in the periphery can't even consume it then what are the odds that something might happen midflight due to some overlooked food item that may contain the allergin.

Anson Chan
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you have a severe allergy it is the parents' responsibility to make sure they have counter measures such as epi pens on standby. To expect the pilot to impose control over the entire cabin is unrealistic and typical of entitled westerners.

David Peter
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The safety announcements on airplanes are long enough without having to list everyone's allergies. Soon they will want to have them announce what not to say so no one gets triggered, what you should not read because it might upset someone and certain passenger pronouns. If they acquiesced to the request, it would just get out of hand with people whining about not having the attendants announce their personal situation. No, bad idea to do this. Maybe if you are that allergic to nuts you should not be in any public spaces.

Scott Rackley
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So here's a scenario. Last person in the seat did eat peanuts on the flight before, i.e. peanut residue on seat, table, handrest. 30 minutes into the flight the allergic person, predictably, goes into anaphylactic shock. Pilot has to emergency land for said person. Maybe check with the airline ahead of time to be accommodated?

K. LNU
Community Member
5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This just seems so far-fetched, and something smells rotten about this whole "story!" I give her credit for making sound like a fairy tale that ended with the “angry little captain” remark. How she spun the story of “gently asking the passengers… overwhelming sense of solidarity and empathy…” Especially the "“I thanked the beautiful souls on our plane for helping us,” she said. “Many of them hugged, cheered and held our hands as we were forced to disembark.” Seriously? I don't know many strangers that would hug and cheer people they didn't know for something so mundane as asking people not to eat nuts. And the photo she included, you can see many of the people didn’t look comfortable having their photo taken, which I will assume was before the peanut debacle.

Murat Ozguc
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Angry Little Captain !!! Excuse me, what this means now? While I can totally understand a parent tries to acommodate her family - allergy issue etc. and can show sympathy for sure, if you did not check this with airline prior, there is no way you can insult airline, captain and the crew. That little captain will fly yo to your destination safe and sound - hopefully - and people do eat nuts on flights. Asking the one near you is an option but if they will accept or not is entirely a personal decision not airlines!

Jas Warner
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I'm warned ahead of time that someone has a nit allergy, ok I'll refrain from eating any nuts. Do not expect me to be yelled at for you not letting the airlines know ahead of time. That sounds like a you problem because you didn't care enough to tell them.

Michał Osiecki
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I thought that for peanut allergy you actually have to have contact with them , usually via digestion

Ronald Catoggio
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is hard for me to believe that every time she flies with her daughter she ask an entire flight not to eat nuts !!!! Stay home or drive or go by boat or rent a plane !!!

DadManBlues
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is gross irresponsibility on the part of parents. What if someone listening to music doesn't hear the warning about the ban on peanuts, or forgets, or doesn't speak English? Or thinks M&Ms Peanuts don't count as peanuts?

meeeeeeeeeeee
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ahe ''hoped'' her fellow passengers would agree they were not aggressive....eh, makes me think you were also who, in a post 9/11 world thinks its appropriate to go bang on the cockpit door

Jeevesssssss
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OK but this is safety and liability. If you have a severe allergy, it ISN'T just about not opening bags of peanuts, it's about cross-contamination/making sure meals are nut-free too. If a person reacts, they're up in the air in a tin can away from appropriate emergency medical help. It's not hard to notify in advance.

valisteria
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

as if there is ever an incident of aggression that is NOT caught on video. In this case - obviously there was no aggression on anyone's part but the captain's.

Alistair .Brownlee
Community Member
5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They can't guarantee an allergen-free environment but telling people to not eat foods with allergens on board would reduce the chance of an incidence where the person who is allergic will come into contact with that food, so I don't see the logic in not making an announcement for that reason.

Dangerous Dave
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5 months ago

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ThisIsTheRealBruno
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My bet is the captain got her off the plane because PREVIOUS FLIGHTS' passengers could've left the plane filled with peanut particles and she basically helped him to know that if there were she could be going into anaphalaxis (sp?) in the middle of the flight.

Zoe Vokes
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you have an allergy that extreme you need to let the airline know in advance. It’s not just about “not serving peanuts” there are other foods than might trigger a reaction. If the airline knew in advance then they could have made sure all meals served were nut free and let passengers know in advance. It’s safest for the airline to remove the family rather than have a medical emergency in the air, especially if the family is causing a fuss already.

Jeevesssssss
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I literally just replied saying exactly this! What happens should she react to the allergen present in a meal, up in the air in a tin can??

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Sian E
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Celebrity is a bit of an exaggeration here, BP! But has nobody thought to contact the other passengers to verify whether or not there was any aggression from the family?

Marcellus II
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the other passengers have better things to do than answer questions about this "celebrity" that i've never heard of.

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Jrog
Community Member
5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Already had this discussion in another thread. Scientific studies disproved *thoroughly* the claim that eating peanuts close to an allergic person in a plane could cause a reaction. Touching surfaces contaminated with peanut dust may in the worst cases create some skin reaction, but it is also a very remote possibility happening only to the most extreme cases of allergies. The only effects measured were psychological: when people were unaware of other people eating peanuts in the same space they had no effect, if they knew they believed to feel effects. No objective physical effects can be measured. I listed several peer-reviewed studies and documents from reputable sources on another thread, but BP search function sucks.

Alexandra
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In that case the parents are even more dimwitted, because you would expect them to know about these studies since it has a serious bearing on their child's condition. Ignorance makes the whole plane not eat peanuts, I guess.

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kissmychakram
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

£6K for overnight hotel at Gatwick and next day flights to Turkey? How TF did it cost that much? Even if they flew business class on BA + airport hotel it shouldn't have cost more than 2K at absolute most. What am I missing?

Corvus
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Peanuts only cause an allergy if you eat them... not when someone ELSE in the room eats them. And I don't think it's possible to inhale peanut particles and get a reaction from afar. So the woman's request was unreasonable and unnecessary.

FreeTheUnicorn
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why on Earth would the pilot be involved with catering? Speak to the team lead of the flight attendants. I have some dietary issues (not life threatening to be in the same cabin as anything, just things that can trigger asthma and vomiting if ingested so best avoided) and I mention when booking. Most airlines are in touch nearly immediately to double check there's no concern with other passengers' food, and Aer Lingus and KLM both were in touch again about 72 hours before to recheck. So if it wasn't mentioned at booking, it's hardly the airlines fault. If it is a life threatening allergy you have to be proactive.

Ace
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No way did a hotel for one night and last-minute easyjet flights cost them 5 grand.

Melissa anderson
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Entitled Karen should have made precautions and alerted the airline while making the reservations. She really has no right to demand paying customers bend to her will.

Tabitha
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I thought, after 9/11, that it’s illegal to approach the cockpit and bang on the door. Those doors are locked for a very good reason. The husband here was being overly aggressive by doing exactly that. I am pretty sure there was way more bad behavior on the part of this family, thinking their “celebrity” status should make all the other passengers automatically bow to their demands. Looks like they found out non-“celebrities” don’t give a fat rat’s a*s who you are, especially if you’re acting like a spoiled brat.

Dom!!!
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

she ruined her whole argument by talking c**p about the captain, had she not said that, then her story would have been legit

Marianne
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She asked for a "standard announcement". Is that a thing? I've never heard of that before. And although I would totally accomodate this family and not eat nuts around them, I think it's too dangerous for her family to even enter a confined space with 200 strangers with a severe allergy like that. There is always a person who doesn't care even if there had been an announcement.

Cassie
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Research indicates no risk from air circulation in airplanes for peanut allergy sufferers. The real risk is surface contamination, which would require advanced notice for such a thorough cleaning. It's not reasonable to believe that other passengers eating nuts elsewhere on the plane is your greatest risk rather than the surfaces you're touching. If you have a peanut allergy to the point of asking people on a plane to not eat peanuts, it is not safe for you to be in that plane at all and removing you from the flight is the airline's best option to protect you from your allergen and themselves from liability. If you have this kind of allergy, you should endeavor to be more knowledgeable on the topic prior to public excursions.

Sheba's Mum
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Next they'll be asking people not to eat meat on the flight because they're vegan, or can't have milk they're lactose intolerant.

Aidan Campbell
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It should be notified to the airline in advance. I was on a flight recently and after everyone had boarded there was an announcement that a passenger has a peanut allergy.

George D
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Biscoff, my friends. The answer to all. With that said, the airline did the right thing. If your nut allergy is so severe that everyone in the periphery can't even consume it then what are the odds that something might happen midflight due to some overlooked food item that may contain the allergin.

Anson Chan
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you have a severe allergy it is the parents' responsibility to make sure they have counter measures such as epi pens on standby. To expect the pilot to impose control over the entire cabin is unrealistic and typical of entitled westerners.

David Peter
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The safety announcements on airplanes are long enough without having to list everyone's allergies. Soon they will want to have them announce what not to say so no one gets triggered, what you should not read because it might upset someone and certain passenger pronouns. If they acquiesced to the request, it would just get out of hand with people whining about not having the attendants announce their personal situation. No, bad idea to do this. Maybe if you are that allergic to nuts you should not be in any public spaces.

Scott Rackley
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So here's a scenario. Last person in the seat did eat peanuts on the flight before, i.e. peanut residue on seat, table, handrest. 30 minutes into the flight the allergic person, predictably, goes into anaphylactic shock. Pilot has to emergency land for said person. Maybe check with the airline ahead of time to be accommodated?

K. LNU
Community Member
5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This just seems so far-fetched, and something smells rotten about this whole "story!" I give her credit for making sound like a fairy tale that ended with the “angry little captain” remark. How she spun the story of “gently asking the passengers… overwhelming sense of solidarity and empathy…” Especially the "“I thanked the beautiful souls on our plane for helping us,” she said. “Many of them hugged, cheered and held our hands as we were forced to disembark.” Seriously? I don't know many strangers that would hug and cheer people they didn't know for something so mundane as asking people not to eat nuts. And the photo she included, you can see many of the people didn’t look comfortable having their photo taken, which I will assume was before the peanut debacle.

Murat Ozguc
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Angry Little Captain !!! Excuse me, what this means now? While I can totally understand a parent tries to acommodate her family - allergy issue etc. and can show sympathy for sure, if you did not check this with airline prior, there is no way you can insult airline, captain and the crew. That little captain will fly yo to your destination safe and sound - hopefully - and people do eat nuts on flights. Asking the one near you is an option but if they will accept or not is entirely a personal decision not airlines!

Jas Warner
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I'm warned ahead of time that someone has a nit allergy, ok I'll refrain from eating any nuts. Do not expect me to be yelled at for you not letting the airlines know ahead of time. That sounds like a you problem because you didn't care enough to tell them.

Michał Osiecki
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I thought that for peanut allergy you actually have to have contact with them , usually via digestion

Ronald Catoggio
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is hard for me to believe that every time she flies with her daughter she ask an entire flight not to eat nuts !!!! Stay home or drive or go by boat or rent a plane !!!

DadManBlues
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is gross irresponsibility on the part of parents. What if someone listening to music doesn't hear the warning about the ban on peanuts, or forgets, or doesn't speak English? Or thinks M&Ms Peanuts don't count as peanuts?

meeeeeeeeeeee
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ahe ''hoped'' her fellow passengers would agree they were not aggressive....eh, makes me think you were also who, in a post 9/11 world thinks its appropriate to go bang on the cockpit door

Jeevesssssss
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OK but this is safety and liability. If you have a severe allergy, it ISN'T just about not opening bags of peanuts, it's about cross-contamination/making sure meals are nut-free too. If a person reacts, they're up in the air in a tin can away from appropriate emergency medical help. It's not hard to notify in advance.

valisteria
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

as if there is ever an incident of aggression that is NOT caught on video. In this case - obviously there was no aggression on anyone's part but the captain's.

Alistair .Brownlee
Community Member
5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They can't guarantee an allergen-free environment but telling people to not eat foods with allergens on board would reduce the chance of an incidence where the person who is allergic will come into contact with that food, so I don't see the logic in not making an announcement for that reason.

Dangerous Dave
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5 months ago

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ThisIsTheRealBruno
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My bet is the captain got her off the plane because PREVIOUS FLIGHTS' passengers could've left the plane filled with peanut particles and she basically helped him to know that if there were she could be going into anaphalaxis (sp?) in the middle of the flight.

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