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Brother Is Uninvited From Wedding For Being An “Addict”, He Then Cancels Free Venue In Response
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Brother Is Uninvited From Wedding For Being An “Addict”, He Then Cancels Free Venue In Response

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Weddings, those magical events where the cake is sweet, but the drama is bitter. Nothing says “I do” quite like a sibling squabble over who gets to stand where and why. As it turns out, siblings and weddings don’t always mix as smoothly as champagne and cake, especially when the plans change.

Just ask our Redditor, as he knows this too well. Our guy thought offering his vacation home as a free venue for his brother’s big day was a cool big bro move, until he found himself booted from the groomsman squad.

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Weddings can bring out the best or the worst in people, especially when family gets involved in the planning

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One man’s generous offer of a free wedding venue for his brother’s big day seemed like a win-win until he got kicked out of the wedding party

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The man, who has a successful career, offered to host his brother’s wedding at his vacation house, with the condition that he would get a spot as a groomsman

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Although he agreed to his brother being in the wedding party, the groom later decided the man was no longer a groomsman as they had decided to downsize the wedding

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The man took back his offer of hosting the wedding after being downgraded from groomsman to guest, leaving his brother and his fiancée fuming

Our Redditor, Mike, (not his real name but let’s go with it) offered up his vacation property, rent free, for his little brother Tom’s wedding. A beautiful place with a big yard, perfect for those Instagram-worthy wedding shots. The catch? Mike just wanted to be a groomsman. Seems like a good deal, no? He gets the front-row seat, Tom gets a free venue and everyone wins.

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Except, a year after their deal, Tom decided to switch up his groomsmen lineup. Suddenly, our guy was out – no tux, no title, nothing.

You can imagine Mike was not happy about being booted from the wedding party. And who could blame him? One minute you’re in and the next you’re benched. Plus, this was the deal he made with his brother in the beginning, and changing it at the last moment didn’t seem fair.

So, our Redditor decided that taking back the venue was a good idea. After all, if he wasn’t important enough to stand beside his brother on his wedding day, why should his vacation home be? Fair’s fair, right? But of course, Tom and his fiancée were furious about losing their free venue and accused Mike of ruining their big day.

But wait, it gets better. As it turns out, the real reason Mike got downgraded from groomsman to guest wasn’t just a matter of downsizing. Nope, it was all because Tom’s fiancée caught wind of Mike’s occasional use of “happiness dust” and labeled him as an addict and unfit groomsman. Tom, instead of having his brother’s back, sided with the bride-to-be, but still wanted to use Mike’s property.

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At this point our guy just had to set some boundaries. Just because you’re doing better in life than the rest of your family doesn’t mean you owe them an arm and a leg. But setting boundaries with family is not exactly a walk in the park, especially when it comes to money, and Mike’s line was clear: no groomsman spot, no venue. Simple enough, right? And honestly, can we blame him?

Maybe Tom and his fiancée should have opened the wedding etiquette handbook before booting Mike, because dropping someone from the wedding party after they’ve already been asked is a huge no-no. Once you ask someone to stand by your side, you are making them a promise and changing your mind because of a little sibling spat is just not okay. Feelings get hurt.

So, before you decide to fire your groomsman, or make any big moves, consider your reasons, have a chat with the guy, and make sure the fix isn’t worse than the fallout. After all, weddings should be about celebrating, not creating awkward family reunions. Plus, swapping out your groomsmen is not as easy as changing your playlist.

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Weddings cost a fortune, and finding a last-minute venue is no picnic. Especially a free one. Mike’s generous offer could have saved his little brother and his bride thousands, but instead, they chose the hard way. Was taking that kind of financial hit worth it? Probably not, considering they had to scramble to find a new spot. But, if the couple didn’t think our guy was VIP material, why should he roll out the red carpet? Asking for a friend.

What’s your take on this story? Should Mike have just let his bro and his fiancée use his place or was he right to pull the plug on the whole thing after being kicked out from the wedding party? Drop your comments below.

Netizens say the man is not a jerk for going back on his offer of hosting his brother’s wedding at his house

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Sa Ruuu
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's so funny that OP's brother and his fiancee consider him a d**g addict yet were totally chill with piggybacking off of his success of being able to own a vacation property

SnackbarKaat
Community Member
1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cant blame OP. It reminded me of my younger sister, who asked me to use my librarycard so she can get double the amount of books. Years later we have a bad relationhip, with her Being disrespectful on several occasions towards me and refusing to say a single word to me. I got a call from the library i had many books due, the library i didnt go to since years. So i explained who is using my card and after the books are returned, i want the card to be cancelled. She and my mum gave me s**t for it. She hates me but still uses from me what she wants? That's not how it works dear.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel you <3 My sister is one of my three abusive people in my life (boyfriend is #1, mom is #2.) My sister will verbally abuse me for hours about how terrible of a person I am, how I am soooo ungrateful to our mom, and how I should APPRECIATE and be HAPPY that I was adopted, and how I need to spend more time with mom now that she's old (ha, no.) My sister used to physically abuse me as well, just like our mom did, but I stood up for myself about 15 years ago, and she hasn't dared touch me since. But - my sister ALSO goes on FREQUENT vacations - like at least once a month for 7-10 days at a time. She will then tell me I need to run the family business alone while she's gone (the family business that she "fired" me from 5 years ago, lol.) It's funny that siblings can be total d-bags to you, even into adulthood, but the SECOND they need something, they "ask" you for help (AKA use you.)

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Janelle Collard
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"F*** around + find out." Who wants to be in the wedding of judgmental a**h***s not to mention letting them use your vacation property *for free?* Let bridezilla's fam come up with the wedding venue since OP is a "dr***gie." Also: "No gift for you!"

Al Sun
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone smells like explosive diarrhea here actually. When you think of love and family as a transactional thing to be bought with money, what did the letter writer expect? Providing a venue only if "you put me in your wedding party"? That's not just wrong but sort of sad and pathetic. But the brother and fiancee are a piece of work, too. It's bad enough to kick your close relative out of the wedding party at the last minute, but then to feel entitled to still use their home? The whole family just sounds awful and need to go to group therapy.

Papa
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with you, and I'll go against the grain and say that, at least at first before the cocaine thing came up, I thought OP was being the biggest jerk. He said he and his brother aren't close, and never have been, so why was it so important for him to be in the wedding party? I can see wanting to be invited, but why insist on being a groomsman?

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Terran
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. They had a deal and the younger brother broke it. Fück around and find out. Although I get extremely strong AH vibes from OP too. I've met my fair share of coke snorting finance bros and they were all insufferable douchebags.

Guess Undheit
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They planned to kick him out from the beginning. They were biding their time, hoping "last minute" wouldn't come with any consequences. The parents can F. O. for defending their selfishness and hypocrisy. (Cue the inevitable claims of "if you defend the OP, you're supporting dryg use!!!").

Bette
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good for you helping and loving your parents! Kudos to you for living an honest life!!

Michael Largey
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Oh, you're downsizing the wedding to make it more intimate? Then my place is obviously too big for your wedding now, and its size would ruin the intimacy you're insisting on. So good luck elsewhere."

G Bono
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP has every right to refuse use of the house when his brother changed the deal, but how weird is it for him to make use of the property contingent on him being in the wedding party. I can't stand people who invite themselves along to anything like lunch or trips. Doing coke here and there is fine. Its like someone who doesn't drink having a glass of wine on occasion. OP is NTA for refusing use of the house, but a colossal AH for imposing himself and trying force himself into his brother's memories of his wedding day.

Alexa Saltz
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is not about the wedding, it is an issue between brothers. Older brother should hold his ground.

Papa
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Older brother never should have had "his ground" to hold in the first place. If he had let his brother and his fiancee use his house without insisting he be a groomsman there wouldn't have been all this drama.

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SheamusFanFrom1987
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hey, since I'm a c*kesnort, you don't need to be using my snorting den for your wedding, right? Enough said!!! SMH!!!

Bec
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a bunch of weirdos honestly. Why would you want to be in your 11 years your junior brother's wedding who doesn't like or understand you? Unless you have factual evidence that OP doing d***s has impacted his behavior, why would he be excluded from being in the wedding. Both seem kind of young to be expected to have such a large caregiver role for the parents too.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bec, my dad had an accident when I was 18 years old and I became the immediate, de facto primary caregiver for him (in every sense of the word - he had catastrophic brain damage, was bedridden, in diapers, with a feeding tube) so, sorry, "kind of young" doesn't stop ugly crud from happening to parents and thus resulting in the kids being thrust into caregiver roles. It doesn't sound like OP is expected to be a "caregiver" at all - he is helping his parents financially only. He said they're "getting close to retirement" - which means neither is disabled so badly that they can't work. They're still working, but they didn't save enough money earlier/etc. so OP is helping them prepare for retirement. He's not a caregiver. He's literally just helping his parents financially.

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Hphizzle
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, both sides sound like people I wouldn’t want to be around. 1.Hard drooogs are fine, everyone does them. (And apparently feel free to openly post on the internet for all the world to see)2. We don’t want your droog doing self in our wedding, but we want your droog doing house for free. But A broke B’s contract (conditions) so they can go find a new venue. For this specific situation OP is NTA.

R Dennis
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have never read a letter where I absolutely couldn't care less about any of the people... ESH

Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH here.. hes not wrong to not let them use the venue. But their hypocrisy on using the venue but telling him to pound sand is just ridiculous. I personally have no respect for d**g users, at all. But what they do isn't my business either.

Lena Flising
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP gave one condition for them to use the vacation home, RENT FREE; that he would be in the wedding party. They ought to realize that if they went back on THEIR part, HE would go back on HIS part. If the problem is c**k use, how come his house is good enough? He probably did some recreational use in there...

bigdazb
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sibling relationships can be rocky, i fell out with my brother a long time ago over his insistance that our parents were the reason his life was s**t. i don't remeber my mum making his 17 year old a*s have sex with a 15 yo (or getting her pregnant). He was always jealous of me even though he always seemed to land on his feet. When there are tensions there they will always find a reason to blame you and try to gain sympathy from others. Live the life you want, take responsabilty for your mistakes as you would your victories and to hell with everyone else.

CBolt
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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA but the rest of your family (& the bride-to-be & her family) most definitely are AH! You had a deal - where on EARTH did they get the idea that they could renege on their end of the arrangement but you would still honor your commitment? YOU are ruining their "special day"? No, they did that all on their own. It boggles the mind that they were surprised at the result of their action. Even if they had been telling the truth when they said they were downsizing in order for the wedding to be more intimate (you correctly called that as BS), how stupid are they that the 1st thing said wasn't, "Obviously we can't cut my brother - he's giving us the venue"? And your parents saying to just let it go ..... Over & over & over on BP/Reddit we read that same thing: parents telling the wronged child to let it go. And if you do, that will reinforce the abusers' sense of entitlement. Too late to find another venue? Tough - their problem. Found a venue but it's going to be expensive? Geez, they had a FREE venue & blew it. I suspect the bride's parents are paying for the wedding - not the bride & groom - so they & their judgmental "religion" have to be placated (sounds like the bride is in their camp too, or she's just ignorant abt recreational dr**g use). Jussssst wondering if the entire event is alcohol-free & if they've given any thought to the idea that their daughter has possibly/probably been sleeping with the groom. Going to Hell? Did they expect you, as a "c*kehead," to do something bizarre at the wedding? Doubt it. Rumors were heard (not relevant whether or not they were true), they judged & labelled you, & took it upon themselves to exact your punishment - sanctimonious b******s. (Apparently, in their "righteousness" they were also oblivious to the fact that there could be consequences.) Back to your parents: your brother's accusation that you don't do enough for them & his truly absurd position that your paying some of their bills doesn't count (with your intention that they can then save more in their 401ks for retirement, & PLEASE verify, somehow, that they ARE putting $ in the 401ks. If you're not completely confident that they are, it might be necessary to, instead of paying some of their bills or writing checks to them, you put the amount you've been contributing to them directly into their 401ks), you say you travel a lot in your job so you can't be there as iften to "help" them. Well, your success in your job is what enables you to help them financially, so Baby Bro needs to get over that. Given that he's so much younger & not yet as successful, financially, in his career, what, exactly, is HE doing to help them? Unclogging a toilet? Feeding the dog when they go on vacation? Going to their house on Sundays & "letting" them feed him dinner? & Yet, they disrespect you by telling you to "let it go"? Really, I'm incensed & hope (tho NOMB & not my decision) if they decide that having a free venue is worth letting a c**ehead be in their wedding - & I wouldn't even want to be after what they've already done - you would tell them to pound sand. (You seem to be a much nicer person than I would be in this situation & everybody else is incredibly clueless when it comes to the realities of life & how the world works.) Be strong.

Id row
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who tf blackmails their way into being in a wedding party? This guy is an a$$hole.

Melissa Harris
Community Member
1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The OP sounds like your classic douchbag finance bro; but, he was entirely in his right to revoke the use of his property when his brother renegged on their deal. It was a s**t manipulative deal but that's not the issue at hand. So in this case he's NTA, but he seems to be an A*hole in general. That's fine. Not everyone needs to be saint and I don't have to hang out with him. I' would suggest the OP get himself some councilling for is obvious interpersonal and control issues.

Rachel
Community Member
15 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Privileged and ungrateful. Wants a handout, but doesn't reciprocate respect. He did the right thing. Just play the miniature violin. I'm intrigued that the parents think it's ok for their youngest to behave like a brat. Says it all.

Steve Robert
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a very successful career, made good money, and although my druug of choice is weed , I would occasionally use coke because it's fun great for sex, and for those, as one of my successful compatriot had said " coc+ain is God's way of saying your making too much money", I never used it more than a couple of times a month, never consecutive days, and certainly not addicted. It's been around for centuries, used by successfully people, and was even enjoyed by the masses who drank the original Coca-cola. I certainly wasn't an addict and unlike alcohol, doesn't make you want to fight the whole world. And there's a big difference from doing a few lines, to doing crack. But it's the fake religious people, who don't have a trouble with alcohol, which is a terrible d**g, that are passing judgement, like they do to everyone who isn't in their cult. The younger brother is being an a*s, and if people don't approve of my lifestyle, they don't need to interact with me. And that would my house!

Louise Higgins
Community Member
1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

F**k them. They were using you for your freebie venue. Sounds like you see your ‘brother’ so rarely that not seeing him at all isn’t too much of a stretch. It also sounds like your brother’s future wife is going to make his life a nightmare.

Deborah B
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP Sounds like a shallow douchbag, who bought his place in the wedding party, and is now ruining the wedding by pulling the venue because he's out as groomsman. And why? Because he uses illegal recreational d***s, and the bride is not comfortable with having that at her wedding. Yes, he can pull the venue, but he's basicly going to end the already strained relationship with his brother. The classic money-can't-buy-class. Yeah, it's hypocritical to borrow a wedding venue from the brother you don't like, but the bigger a*****e here is OP.

Mike F
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They are both insufferable. The brother and his GF sitting high and mighty calling OP a ¢rackhead while their hand is out for a favor from him. The OP because what, he needs to be in the wedding party for validation? If bro and GF want to play games, give them the use of the house for $5 less than the venue they were priced out of, get a damage deposit, don't attend at all then enjoy himself. Those 2 are going to try to play OP's fiddle for the rest of his life because he's so busy chasing that validation. The GF is a judgmental beyotch and will control ALL of their lives if OP doesn't grow a pair and stop seeking their approval. The "happy couple" needs to own the fallout and stop running to the relatives crying over the results of their decision.

CBolt
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't offer them the place for a price because I wouldn't want them anywhere on my property - their presence, given their behavior & sense of entitlement, would defile it for me.

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Cee Cee
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good grief first world mountain out of a molehill. Frankly both parties seem deeply unpleasant and neither comes out of this smelling of roses. Pathetic.

Thanos'Fingers
Community Member
1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He may be rich in dollars... but he's poor in character. Yes you can quote me

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Zoe's Mom
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both are AH. You don't bargain into someone's wedding and if they knew about his 'd**g' habit, then they shouldn't have agreed to use his party house.

Fellfromthemoon
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1 month ago

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OP is the kind of person who throws money to every problem. He believes that everything has a pricetag. Parents getting old? Here is a cheque. Want to "be a part of something in brother's life"? Let's bribe bro with the use of property. I kind of see why bro and fiancée wanted not to get too entangled. On the other hand, the couple accepted OP's terms and conditions. It is cold, calculated, but still a promise. As OP is cold and calculating, the couple should? could? have guessed that going back on their words leads to loss of venue. OP is technically right. Somehow I still feel like OP has striking similarities with a Satan from the nineteenth century. Mephistopheles from Faust. Lucifer from The Tragedy of Man. Not evil, not even snarky, just cold, calculated and very rational.

Apatheist Account2
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1 month ago

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Lost a lot of sympathy when OP revealed their habit. I would have perhaps come straight out with it and told him he wasn't welcome anywhere in my life if he continued melting his brain, and not bothered to use his venue.

Elizabeth Everman
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who cares if he does a little recreational d***s!? He can clearly afford it - unlike his brother and fiancee who can't afford a wedding venue. Says a lot more about the judgmental couple than the occasional partyer.

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Sa Ruuu
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's so funny that OP's brother and his fiancee consider him a d**g addict yet were totally chill with piggybacking off of his success of being able to own a vacation property

SnackbarKaat
Community Member
1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cant blame OP. It reminded me of my younger sister, who asked me to use my librarycard so she can get double the amount of books. Years later we have a bad relationhip, with her Being disrespectful on several occasions towards me and refusing to say a single word to me. I got a call from the library i had many books due, the library i didnt go to since years. So i explained who is using my card and after the books are returned, i want the card to be cancelled. She and my mum gave me s**t for it. She hates me but still uses from me what she wants? That's not how it works dear.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel you <3 My sister is one of my three abusive people in my life (boyfriend is #1, mom is #2.) My sister will verbally abuse me for hours about how terrible of a person I am, how I am soooo ungrateful to our mom, and how I should APPRECIATE and be HAPPY that I was adopted, and how I need to spend more time with mom now that she's old (ha, no.) My sister used to physically abuse me as well, just like our mom did, but I stood up for myself about 15 years ago, and she hasn't dared touch me since. But - my sister ALSO goes on FREQUENT vacations - like at least once a month for 7-10 days at a time. She will then tell me I need to run the family business alone while she's gone (the family business that she "fired" me from 5 years ago, lol.) It's funny that siblings can be total d-bags to you, even into adulthood, but the SECOND they need something, they "ask" you for help (AKA use you.)

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Janelle Collard
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"F*** around + find out." Who wants to be in the wedding of judgmental a**h***s not to mention letting them use your vacation property *for free?* Let bridezilla's fam come up with the wedding venue since OP is a "dr***gie." Also: "No gift for you!"

Al Sun
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone smells like explosive diarrhea here actually. When you think of love and family as a transactional thing to be bought with money, what did the letter writer expect? Providing a venue only if "you put me in your wedding party"? That's not just wrong but sort of sad and pathetic. But the brother and fiancee are a piece of work, too. It's bad enough to kick your close relative out of the wedding party at the last minute, but then to feel entitled to still use their home? The whole family just sounds awful and need to go to group therapy.

Papa
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with you, and I'll go against the grain and say that, at least at first before the cocaine thing came up, I thought OP was being the biggest jerk. He said he and his brother aren't close, and never have been, so why was it so important for him to be in the wedding party? I can see wanting to be invited, but why insist on being a groomsman?

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Terran
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. They had a deal and the younger brother broke it. Fück around and find out. Although I get extremely strong AH vibes from OP too. I've met my fair share of coke snorting finance bros and they were all insufferable douchebags.

Guess Undheit
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They planned to kick him out from the beginning. They were biding their time, hoping "last minute" wouldn't come with any consequences. The parents can F. O. for defending their selfishness and hypocrisy. (Cue the inevitable claims of "if you defend the OP, you're supporting dryg use!!!").

Bette
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good for you helping and loving your parents! Kudos to you for living an honest life!!

Michael Largey
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Oh, you're downsizing the wedding to make it more intimate? Then my place is obviously too big for your wedding now, and its size would ruin the intimacy you're insisting on. So good luck elsewhere."

G Bono
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP has every right to refuse use of the house when his brother changed the deal, but how weird is it for him to make use of the property contingent on him being in the wedding party. I can't stand people who invite themselves along to anything like lunch or trips. Doing coke here and there is fine. Its like someone who doesn't drink having a glass of wine on occasion. OP is NTA for refusing use of the house, but a colossal AH for imposing himself and trying force himself into his brother's memories of his wedding day.

Alexa Saltz
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is not about the wedding, it is an issue between brothers. Older brother should hold his ground.

Papa
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1 month ago

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Older brother never should have had "his ground" to hold in the first place. If he had let his brother and his fiancee use his house without insisting he be a groomsman there wouldn't have been all this drama.

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SheamusFanFrom1987
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hey, since I'm a c*kesnort, you don't need to be using my snorting den for your wedding, right? Enough said!!! SMH!!!

Bec
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a bunch of weirdos honestly. Why would you want to be in your 11 years your junior brother's wedding who doesn't like or understand you? Unless you have factual evidence that OP doing d***s has impacted his behavior, why would he be excluded from being in the wedding. Both seem kind of young to be expected to have such a large caregiver role for the parents too.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bec, my dad had an accident when I was 18 years old and I became the immediate, de facto primary caregiver for him (in every sense of the word - he had catastrophic brain damage, was bedridden, in diapers, with a feeding tube) so, sorry, "kind of young" doesn't stop ugly crud from happening to parents and thus resulting in the kids being thrust into caregiver roles. It doesn't sound like OP is expected to be a "caregiver" at all - he is helping his parents financially only. He said they're "getting close to retirement" - which means neither is disabled so badly that they can't work. They're still working, but they didn't save enough money earlier/etc. so OP is helping them prepare for retirement. He's not a caregiver. He's literally just helping his parents financially.

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Hphizzle
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, both sides sound like people I wouldn’t want to be around. 1.Hard drooogs are fine, everyone does them. (And apparently feel free to openly post on the internet for all the world to see)2. We don’t want your droog doing self in our wedding, but we want your droog doing house for free. But A broke B’s contract (conditions) so they can go find a new venue. For this specific situation OP is NTA.

R Dennis
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have never read a letter where I absolutely couldn't care less about any of the people... ESH

Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH here.. hes not wrong to not let them use the venue. But their hypocrisy on using the venue but telling him to pound sand is just ridiculous. I personally have no respect for d**g users, at all. But what they do isn't my business either.

Lena Flising
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP gave one condition for them to use the vacation home, RENT FREE; that he would be in the wedding party. They ought to realize that if they went back on THEIR part, HE would go back on HIS part. If the problem is c**k use, how come his house is good enough? He probably did some recreational use in there...

bigdazb
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sibling relationships can be rocky, i fell out with my brother a long time ago over his insistance that our parents were the reason his life was s**t. i don't remeber my mum making his 17 year old a*s have sex with a 15 yo (or getting her pregnant). He was always jealous of me even though he always seemed to land on his feet. When there are tensions there they will always find a reason to blame you and try to gain sympathy from others. Live the life you want, take responsabilty for your mistakes as you would your victories and to hell with everyone else.

CBolt
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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA but the rest of your family (& the bride-to-be & her family) most definitely are AH! You had a deal - where on EARTH did they get the idea that they could renege on their end of the arrangement but you would still honor your commitment? YOU are ruining their "special day"? No, they did that all on their own. It boggles the mind that they were surprised at the result of their action. Even if they had been telling the truth when they said they were downsizing in order for the wedding to be more intimate (you correctly called that as BS), how stupid are they that the 1st thing said wasn't, "Obviously we can't cut my brother - he's giving us the venue"? And your parents saying to just let it go ..... Over & over & over on BP/Reddit we read that same thing: parents telling the wronged child to let it go. And if you do, that will reinforce the abusers' sense of entitlement. Too late to find another venue? Tough - their problem. Found a venue but it's going to be expensive? Geez, they had a FREE venue & blew it. I suspect the bride's parents are paying for the wedding - not the bride & groom - so they & their judgmental "religion" have to be placated (sounds like the bride is in their camp too, or she's just ignorant abt recreational dr**g use). Jussssst wondering if the entire event is alcohol-free & if they've given any thought to the idea that their daughter has possibly/probably been sleeping with the groom. Going to Hell? Did they expect you, as a "c*kehead," to do something bizarre at the wedding? Doubt it. Rumors were heard (not relevant whether or not they were true), they judged & labelled you, & took it upon themselves to exact your punishment - sanctimonious b******s. (Apparently, in their "righteousness" they were also oblivious to the fact that there could be consequences.) Back to your parents: your brother's accusation that you don't do enough for them & his truly absurd position that your paying some of their bills doesn't count (with your intention that they can then save more in their 401ks for retirement, & PLEASE verify, somehow, that they ARE putting $ in the 401ks. If you're not completely confident that they are, it might be necessary to, instead of paying some of their bills or writing checks to them, you put the amount you've been contributing to them directly into their 401ks), you say you travel a lot in your job so you can't be there as iften to "help" them. Well, your success in your job is what enables you to help them financially, so Baby Bro needs to get over that. Given that he's so much younger & not yet as successful, financially, in his career, what, exactly, is HE doing to help them? Unclogging a toilet? Feeding the dog when they go on vacation? Going to their house on Sundays & "letting" them feed him dinner? & Yet, they disrespect you by telling you to "let it go"? Really, I'm incensed & hope (tho NOMB & not my decision) if they decide that having a free venue is worth letting a c**ehead be in their wedding - & I wouldn't even want to be after what they've already done - you would tell them to pound sand. (You seem to be a much nicer person than I would be in this situation & everybody else is incredibly clueless when it comes to the realities of life & how the world works.) Be strong.

Id row
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who tf blackmails their way into being in a wedding party? This guy is an a$$hole.

Melissa Harris
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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The OP sounds like your classic douchbag finance bro; but, he was entirely in his right to revoke the use of his property when his brother renegged on their deal. It was a s**t manipulative deal but that's not the issue at hand. So in this case he's NTA, but he seems to be an A*hole in general. That's fine. Not everyone needs to be saint and I don't have to hang out with him. I' would suggest the OP get himself some councilling for is obvious interpersonal and control issues.

Rachel
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15 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Privileged and ungrateful. Wants a handout, but doesn't reciprocate respect. He did the right thing. Just play the miniature violin. I'm intrigued that the parents think it's ok for their youngest to behave like a brat. Says it all.

Steve Robert
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a very successful career, made good money, and although my druug of choice is weed , I would occasionally use coke because it's fun great for sex, and for those, as one of my successful compatriot had said " coc+ain is God's way of saying your making too much money", I never used it more than a couple of times a month, never consecutive days, and certainly not addicted. It's been around for centuries, used by successfully people, and was even enjoyed by the masses who drank the original Coca-cola. I certainly wasn't an addict and unlike alcohol, doesn't make you want to fight the whole world. And there's a big difference from doing a few lines, to doing crack. But it's the fake religious people, who don't have a trouble with alcohol, which is a terrible d**g, that are passing judgement, like they do to everyone who isn't in their cult. The younger brother is being an a*s, and if people don't approve of my lifestyle, they don't need to interact with me. And that would my house!

Louise Higgins
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

F**k them. They were using you for your freebie venue. Sounds like you see your ‘brother’ so rarely that not seeing him at all isn’t too much of a stretch. It also sounds like your brother’s future wife is going to make his life a nightmare.

Deborah B
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP Sounds like a shallow douchbag, who bought his place in the wedding party, and is now ruining the wedding by pulling the venue because he's out as groomsman. And why? Because he uses illegal recreational d***s, and the bride is not comfortable with having that at her wedding. Yes, he can pull the venue, but he's basicly going to end the already strained relationship with his brother. The classic money-can't-buy-class. Yeah, it's hypocritical to borrow a wedding venue from the brother you don't like, but the bigger a*****e here is OP.

Mike F
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They are both insufferable. The brother and his GF sitting high and mighty calling OP a ¢rackhead while their hand is out for a favor from him. The OP because what, he needs to be in the wedding party for validation? If bro and GF want to play games, give them the use of the house for $5 less than the venue they were priced out of, get a damage deposit, don't attend at all then enjoy himself. Those 2 are going to try to play OP's fiddle for the rest of his life because he's so busy chasing that validation. The GF is a judgmental beyotch and will control ALL of their lives if OP doesn't grow a pair and stop seeking their approval. The "happy couple" needs to own the fallout and stop running to the relatives crying over the results of their decision.

CBolt
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't offer them the place for a price because I wouldn't want them anywhere on my property - their presence, given their behavior & sense of entitlement, would defile it for me.

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Cee Cee
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good grief first world mountain out of a molehill. Frankly both parties seem deeply unpleasant and neither comes out of this smelling of roses. Pathetic.

Thanos'Fingers
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1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He may be rich in dollars... but he's poor in character. Yes you can quote me

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Zoe's Mom
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both are AH. You don't bargain into someone's wedding and if they knew about his 'd**g' habit, then they shouldn't have agreed to use his party house.

Fellfromthemoon
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1 month ago

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OP is the kind of person who throws money to every problem. He believes that everything has a pricetag. Parents getting old? Here is a cheque. Want to "be a part of something in brother's life"? Let's bribe bro with the use of property. I kind of see why bro and fiancée wanted not to get too entangled. On the other hand, the couple accepted OP's terms and conditions. It is cold, calculated, but still a promise. As OP is cold and calculating, the couple should? could? have guessed that going back on their words leads to loss of venue. OP is technically right. Somehow I still feel like OP has striking similarities with a Satan from the nineteenth century. Mephistopheles from Faust. Lucifer from The Tragedy of Man. Not evil, not even snarky, just cold, calculated and very rational.

Apatheist Account2
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1 month ago

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Lost a lot of sympathy when OP revealed their habit. I would have perhaps come straight out with it and told him he wasn't welcome anywhere in my life if he continued melting his brain, and not bothered to use his venue.

Elizabeth Everman
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who cares if he does a little recreational d***s!? He can clearly afford it - unlike his brother and fiancee who can't afford a wedding venue. Says a lot more about the judgmental couple than the occasional partyer.

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