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Not Even A Penny: Man Refuses To Fund Sister’s Third Pregnancy After The First 2 Made Him A Dad
Not Even A Penny: Man Refuses To Fund Sister’s Third Pregnancy After The First 2 Made Him A Dad
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Not Even A Penny: Man Refuses To Fund Sister’s Third Pregnancy After The First 2 Made Him A Dad

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Family is important to people. In fact, 73% of Americans say that quality time spent with family is one of the most important things in life. But when it comes to siblings, only 41% of adults report having a close relationship with their brother or sister. Sometimes, it’s the life choices of one sibling that might drive them apart.

In this story, a brother presented his sister with an ultimatum: either she got sterilized and stopped having kids, or he would no longer help her. Since he was already raising her two boys, he didn’t feel much guilt. But when he posted his story online, people had mixed reactions.

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    Kids are a huge responsibility, and not every person is prepared for that challenge

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    This man was already raising his sister’s two boys, so when he found out she was having a third, he gave her an ultimatum

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    Growing up and getting adopted by family members is more beneficial for children than being in foster care

    The ideal nuclear family most of us have in our heads consists of a mom, a dad, and kids. However, many children may not have one parent or even both. Others, like the two boys in this story, are raised by members of their extended families.

    Data shows that over 2.4 million children in the U.S. are being raised by extended family members. Most often, grandparents are the primary caretakers, but uncles, aunts, and even close family members count in the statistics, too.

    The situation when a family member adopts their relative’s child is kinship adoption. There are no clear statistics on how common kinship adoption is. But, according to the Adoption and Foster Care Analysis and Reporting System, about 35% of adoptions in 2020 were made by stepparents or other relatives.

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    Today’s Caregiver writes that the primary reason family members become the primary carers of children is drug and alcohol abuse by birth parents. Often, military parents also can’t provide care for their children, so family members step up. Other reasons include poverty, incarceration, or even family violence if a family member worries about the well-being of the child.

    Experts say that kinship care is more beneficial to children than being in foster care. “Research demonstrates that children placed with kin experience increased stability, improved well-being and behavioral health outcomes, and higher levels of permanency when compared with children placed in foster care with strangers,” according to Casey Family Programs.

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    Helping a younger sibling shouldn’t eclipse a person’s right to their own life and identity

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    Adult sibling relationships can be hard. A brother or a sister might be the person you’ve grown up with as best friends, but time might alter that relationship. “Your siblings are your first real chance to share life with others,” Geoffrey Greif, the co-author of Adult Sibling Relationships and a professor at the University of Maryland School of Social Work, told NPR.

    He explains the dilemma many siblings face: how to say ‘no’ or cut contact with toxic siblings. “If I have a disagreement with a friend or with an intimate partner, I have the option of dropping them. There may be a cost to that. But if I have a sibling relationship, I need to figure out what to do with that and where to put it in the mosaic of my family.”

    Older siblings often have it even harder. Just like in this story, they might assume the role of a caregiver or parent to their younger sibling. In a previous interview, mental health consultant Imi Lo told Bored Panda that parentification can happen even when siblings are adults.

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    “When older siblings are expected to automatically assume caregiving responsibilities, even into adulthood, it can significantly impact their autonomy, identity development, and pursuit of personal goals. Their own needs end up being subordinated to those of the family,” she explained.

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    “While helping care for younger siblings in moderation can foster positive qualities like responsibility and empathy, it should not be an automatically assumed role that eclipses the older sibling’s own needs,” Lo added. “Older siblings have a right to their own lives and identities.”

    In this case, the brother had to step up to the role of a parent when his sister couldn’t take care of her children. And while giving ultimatums or pressuring a person to make reproductive decisions is not the right way to go, one can understand his frustrations and where he’s coming from.

    One netizen warned the brother that he might land in some legal trouble after talking like that

    Many people backed the man for telling his sister the harsh truth

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    But some accused him of pressuring his sister and policing her body

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    Kornelija Viečaitė

    Kornelija Viečaitė

    Writer, BoredPanda staff

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    Hi there, fellow pandas! As a person (over)educated both in social sciences and literature, I'm most interested in how we connect and behave online (and sometimes in real life too.) The human experience is weird, so I try my best to put its peculiarities in writing. As a person who grew up chronically online, I now try to marry two sides of myself: the one who knows too much about MySpace, and the one who can't settle and needs to see every corner of the world.

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    Kornelija Viečaitė

    Kornelija Viečaitė

    Writer, BoredPanda staff

    Hi there, fellow pandas! As a person (over)educated both in social sciences and literature, I'm most interested in how we connect and behave online (and sometimes in real life too.) The human experience is weird, so I try my best to put its peculiarities in writing. As a person who grew up chronically online, I now try to marry two sides of myself: the one who knows too much about MySpace, and the one who can't settle and needs to see every corner of the world.

    What do you think ?
    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Commenters seem to be confused about the situation. Yes, her body, her choice, but OP isn't obligated to help her if she doesn't comply with the conditions. It doesn't sound like he expects her to comply at all, but wants there to be a chance of staying in contact. He can't make her terminate/get her tubes tied, but he doesn't have to keep in contact with her while she has other children she doesn't look after.

    VOTE if you live in the USA
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. Came here to say this but you already covered it! Telling someone "these are my boundaries" is not the same as forcing someone to do something against their will.

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    CanadianDimes
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her body, her choice, absolutely. And he has a choice in how he responds to the situations she creates. She does not have to agree to the ultimatum, she only has to deal with the consequences.

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    Terran
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Website crashed 3 times whild I tried commenting, so short version now: her body, her choice. Her choices bad. She will make the same mistake again and without abortion, he will have to care for the child. Totally alright, he is definitely NTA.

    Melissa K
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She could put the baby up for adoption. A lot of people want a baby and can't have one.

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    Ken Schroeder
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All of the morons saying the OP is the a*****e need to put their names in a hat so we can pull one and find who gets the s**t's next crotch goblin. FFS, people...

    Pollywog
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The YTA's can help her out then. Leave him their contact information! Her body her choice shouldn't be HIS responsibility for a third time!!

    Glenda Smith
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whoever said he "has an oops child, so who is he to judge". Seriously? He's taking care of his "oops" baby. He isn't pawing her off on someone else. You better believe he can put conditions on his help. Her body her choice is absolutely right, but he in NO WAY is obligated to come in to the situation and clean up another one of her messes if he disagrees with her choice. He's committed to TWO of her children with all the time, love, and expense for the rest of his life. That gives him every right to have an opinion, set conditions, and shut the door on her if she doesn't meet those conditions.

    Eva
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, an accidental pregnancy happens. But if you can't own up to it, you don't deserve to have kids. She has a family already. She just needs to stop meeting deadbeat lovers and pull her act together. She needs to take care of the kids she already has.

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    Jenelle620
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Idk why people think this man was pressuring her into having an abortion or being sterilized. All he was doing was stating his conditions for helping her. So yea it's her body, her choice. She can opt to do it and get help or not do it and face those consequences herself. If she feels pressured that's on her, not him. The only thing disgusting here is an adult woman who still hasn't learned how to use proper birth control and is expecting her brother to raise yet another child because he took the first two. She may have given birth but in no way is she a mother.

    Rabbit Of ill Portent(she/her)
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do people get so up in arms and abortions?? "Oh it's illegal to talk about it" so are we living in the Republic of Gilead now?! I fully one billion percent agree it's her body and her choice but homegirl needs to realize she's being EXTREMELY irresponsible with her body and the two children that already came out of it! Someone give her a come to Jesus talk because I'll end up hurting her feelings smfh

    notlikeyou1971
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry but hasn't he done enough for her? Yes she has the right to choose what to do with her body and her life but he has a right to say he doesn't want to take any more responsibility for her or help her out anymore. He is not forcing her to do anything but he doesn't have to be an enabler and continue to help her every time she gets pregnant because she is unfit and an easy lay. She continues to repeat the same behavior. He's sick of it and sick of cleaning up her messes so to speak. He's laying down his boundaries. If she chooses to continue to have unprotected sex and pop out babies left and right and then expect others to raise them while she runs off with another deadbeat loser to play,let her do it alone and pay her her bad choices alone. Enough is enough.

    Momma Jess
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He mentioned getting her tubes tied, but he sounds reasonable and probably would have settled with an IUD or something as a compromise. Regardless, she's got kids she doesn't have custody of and has no business having more that she can't handle apparently. The people who seem to be the most against abortion call themselves pro life, when in reality they are pro BIRTH and then complain when people try to access help and resources. That fetus isn't a life, it's potential life in the cooking phase, I don't consider it life until the infant comes out and starts breathing on its own, be it human or other animals.

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    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Commenters seem to be confused about the situation. Yes, her body, her choice, but OP isn't obligated to help her if she doesn't comply with the conditions. It doesn't sound like he expects her to comply at all, but wants there to be a chance of staying in contact. He can't make her terminate/get her tubes tied, but he doesn't have to keep in contact with her while she has other children she doesn't look after.

    VOTE if you live in the USA
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. Came here to say this but you already covered it! Telling someone "these are my boundaries" is not the same as forcing someone to do something against their will.

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    CanadianDimes
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her body, her choice, absolutely. And he has a choice in how he responds to the situations she creates. She does not have to agree to the ultimatum, she only has to deal with the consequences.

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    Terran
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Website crashed 3 times whild I tried commenting, so short version now: her body, her choice. Her choices bad. She will make the same mistake again and without abortion, he will have to care for the child. Totally alright, he is definitely NTA.

    Melissa K
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She could put the baby up for adoption. A lot of people want a baby and can't have one.

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    Ken Schroeder
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All of the morons saying the OP is the a*****e need to put their names in a hat so we can pull one and find who gets the s**t's next crotch goblin. FFS, people...

    Pollywog
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The YTA's can help her out then. Leave him their contact information! Her body her choice shouldn't be HIS responsibility for a third time!!

    Glenda Smith
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whoever said he "has an oops child, so who is he to judge". Seriously? He's taking care of his "oops" baby. He isn't pawing her off on someone else. You better believe he can put conditions on his help. Her body her choice is absolutely right, but he in NO WAY is obligated to come in to the situation and clean up another one of her messes if he disagrees with her choice. He's committed to TWO of her children with all the time, love, and expense for the rest of his life. That gives him every right to have an opinion, set conditions, and shut the door on her if she doesn't meet those conditions.

    Eva
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, an accidental pregnancy happens. But if you can't own up to it, you don't deserve to have kids. She has a family already. She just needs to stop meeting deadbeat lovers and pull her act together. She needs to take care of the kids she already has.

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    Jenelle620
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Idk why people think this man was pressuring her into having an abortion or being sterilized. All he was doing was stating his conditions for helping her. So yea it's her body, her choice. She can opt to do it and get help or not do it and face those consequences herself. If she feels pressured that's on her, not him. The only thing disgusting here is an adult woman who still hasn't learned how to use proper birth control and is expecting her brother to raise yet another child because he took the first two. She may have given birth but in no way is she a mother.

    Rabbit Of ill Portent(she/her)
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do people get so up in arms and abortions?? "Oh it's illegal to talk about it" so are we living in the Republic of Gilead now?! I fully one billion percent agree it's her body and her choice but homegirl needs to realize she's being EXTREMELY irresponsible with her body and the two children that already came out of it! Someone give her a come to Jesus talk because I'll end up hurting her feelings smfh

    notlikeyou1971
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry but hasn't he done enough for her? Yes she has the right to choose what to do with her body and her life but he has a right to say he doesn't want to take any more responsibility for her or help her out anymore. He is not forcing her to do anything but he doesn't have to be an enabler and continue to help her every time she gets pregnant because she is unfit and an easy lay. She continues to repeat the same behavior. He's sick of it and sick of cleaning up her messes so to speak. He's laying down his boundaries. If she chooses to continue to have unprotected sex and pop out babies left and right and then expect others to raise them while she runs off with another deadbeat loser to play,let her do it alone and pay her her bad choices alone. Enough is enough.

    Momma Jess
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He mentioned getting her tubes tied, but he sounds reasonable and probably would have settled with an IUD or something as a compromise. Regardless, she's got kids she doesn't have custody of and has no business having more that she can't handle apparently. The people who seem to be the most against abortion call themselves pro life, when in reality they are pro BIRTH and then complain when people try to access help and resources. That fetus isn't a life, it's potential life in the cooking phase, I don't consider it life until the infant comes out and starts breathing on its own, be it human or other animals.

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