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Guy Tells Fiancée Wedding Is Off After She Shares Her Reason For Inviting Ex
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Guy Tells Fiancée Wedding Is Off After She Shares Her Reason For Inviting Ex

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You’ve probably heard it before, but the very best revenge is a life well lived. If you’re happy and healthy and in a great relationship, that’s the biggest victory right there. However, sometimes, that’s easier said than done because a part of you might want to rub that happiness in the faces of all the people who hurt you in the past. This might not be the healthiest way forward.

An anonymous person went viral after asking the AITAH online community for advice on a particularly sensitive situation in their relationship. According to the OP, they called off their wedding after their fiancée insisted on inviting her ex-boyfriend, who had treated her horribly. Scroll down to find the full story and the internet’s advice. Bored Panda has reached out to the author for an update. We’ll update the article as soon as we hear back from them.

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    It’s a massive decision to call off your wedding, and it’s not something that anyone does lightly

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    A person turned to the net for help after canceling their wedding because of their partner’s wish to invite her toxic ex-boyfriend

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    It’s helpful to evaluate your relationship even before you get engaged, to avoid having to call off the wedding

    Gary W. Lewandowski Jr., Ph.D., an expert on relationships, writes in Psychology Today that few people want to make the decision to call off a wedding. However, it’s one that needs to be made depending on the situation.

    “Rather than putting yourself through such an unpleasant and difficult experience, it’s much better to take steps in your relationship now that will help prevent such an outcome,” he suggests.

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    “Before the relationship gets so serious that you’re considering engagement, take some time to really think about what a future relationship with your partner looks like. Are you truly compatible, not only in your day-to-day living, but also in terms of your values? Sit down and picture what your future life will look like with your partner. Envision that relationship both in good times and in bad. Do you like what you see?”

    According to Lewandowski, the couple needs to take the time to evaluate the relationship early on. That way, both people will be aware of any potential red flags.

    “Don’t get so wrapped up in falling in love that you’re forgiving major issues like constant conflict, emotional abuse, or cheating. See them for who they are now, well before you’re planning a wedding. Compatibility counts… is this the type of relationship you always wanted?”

    If you feel lots of negative feelings about your partner even years after having broken up, a good therapist might be able to help you

    Sometimes, the past is best left in the past. Traumatic experiences can shape you. And it’s completely valid to feel however you feel about having suffered in the past. However, you have the power to reframe your experiences to empower you, instead of letting them continue haunting you.

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    Depending on how traumatic those events were, you may need to reach out to a mental health professional. However, keep in mind that therapists and counselors—no matter how educated, talented, and empathetic they might be—are not wizards. They can’t wave a magic wand during your sessions and make all of your issues go away.

    Therapy, real therapy, requires a lot of hard, emotional, and often uncomfortable work. The process can be harrowing, but the end result is worth it if you can heal and move on with your life feeling much more confident than before.

    Someone who still feels fixated on their ex-partner after years of not having talked to them may need a mental health specialist’s insights to figure out why this is happening.

    Maybe they’ve been so hurt by them in the past that they want ‘revenge.’ Perhaps they never got the closure they wanted. Or they might still crave their approval even though they know it’s not healthy. Or it could be a combination of different reasons. But this is all speculation. It’s up to the client to work together with their therapist to really get to grips with the fixation on their ex.

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    Both partners need to feel comfortable enough to talk about how each other’s behavior affects them

    No matter how mature and emotionally sound someone might be, it’s still not a very nice thing to realize that your partner is thinking about their exes. Feeling a twinge of jealousy sometimes is normal. Of course, we’re all human, and this can happen accidentally.

    If someone was a big part of your partner’s life, it’s natural that they’ll remember them from time to time. However, it becomes an issue if they’re constantly thinking about them, whether fondly or in anger. This sends the message that you might not be your partner’s main priority.

    If you feel upset because of this, it’s better to speak up instead of keeping your feelings inside until they turn into resentment. Having a few open and honest chats about the state of the relationship can help you work through things.

    Just remember that the manner in which you tackle these topics is as important as the information you share with your partner. If you’re angry, accusative, and judgmental, you risk pushing your significant other (even further) away.

    So, it’s often best to use lots of “I” statements about how you feel when your partner says one thing or does another. Another fundamental part of having these mature conversations involves actively listening to your significant other. What’s their side of the story? What’s their interpretation of what’s been happening in your relationship?

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    Hear them out instead of just waiting for your turn to speak. Relationships require mutual respect, patience, and looking for compromises. It’s supposed to be an ongoing dialogue, not a monologue, vent, or sermon.

    What advice would you give the author who reached out to the internet for help, dear readers? Do you think they did the right thing calling off the wedding? What advice would you give anyone hoping to move past a bad relationship? Share your thoughts in the comments.

    The person later opened up a bit more and shared some additional context about their relationship

    Many internet users thought that the author was well within their rights to call the wedding off

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    However, not everyone was convinced. Some readers called the person out for how they handled the situation

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    The author came back to provide an update

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    FreeTheUnicorn
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    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't get married. You still have a lot to work through. If you have a clingy ex, sometimes inviting them to the wedding puts an end to that, usually they don't come, they just get an invite and get the message. But, fiancée didn't fight OP on it. Didn't dig her heels in, just said ok. OP went nuclear immediately so he's either really insecure in the relationship or looking for n excuse to get out. Either way, don't get married any time soon.

    Sergio Bicerra
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She had a stupid reason to invite her ex and backed up, thats it, didn't argue, so I agree with you, he went nuclear, they're not ready to get married. Op doesn't say, but is this the only moment she's mentioned her ex besides telling how the relationship was or comments now and then things like 'you're such a good cook, not like ex that etc etc' That may change the balance of the situation in favor of op.

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    Mary Lou
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A woman affected If not traumatized by past abuse has the notion to show her tormentor that she prevailed. Bad Idea but YTA for being hung up on jealousy here and even going nuclear instead of being supportlve.

    Surly Scot
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "The best revenge is living well", this isn't about her showing him she prevailed, this is her wanting her ex to still feel something for her, even if it's jealousy, which is extremely toxic for her present life. Knowing the ex will see photos on FB of the wedding or whatever should have been enough, but she wanted to invite him to the wedding which could have caused problems, led to a fight, ruining her partner's "best day of his life" all because she wants revenge, not catharsis, but revenge. She has serious issues she needs to work through before committing to someone else

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    Libstak
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She was with ex for 2 years, single for 3 years and is in relationship with OP for 4 years. Thats 7 years since her relationship with the ex, yet she still wants to make a point about how well she has done with new man (OP). She won't let it go either, he has asked a bunch of questions and she has responded in ways that show she is still butt hurt and needs some kind of revenge (or is she hoping ex realises what he lost?). OP is right in his feelings, there is a huge question mark about who is in her mind and heart.

    Svenne O'Lotta
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do you automatically assume that the feelings she may or may not have about her ex are of the romantic kind? She might just hate his guts.

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    WonderWoman
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP is looking for reasons not to get married and blaming her and her silly comments. She went from one abuser to another, they just wear different masks.

    Traveling Lady Railfan
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kudos for recognizing the problem before you get married and agreeing to postpone indefinitely as well as counseling. To ignore this and just jump into marriage you're right, she constantly be trying to tag him in social media or in some other way show off you're wonderful honeymoon, you're beautiful vacations, your enviable home, you're gorgeous children, etc. You dont live your best life just so you can use it to rub it in the face of someone else. I get that being in an abusive relationship is damaging, but this isn't the way to heal from that experience. OP is wise.

    Rdj
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes don't marry or better don't start a relationship if one is not over their ex. That's asking for trouble.

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    Alexandra Nara
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    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She didn't cling to the ex but the pain he caused. Revenge only helps to let it go f he still is into her- Otherwise it becomes even more load,cause he destroyed her selfesteem by pushing her down AND he will : by not reacting at her wedding. She has some triggers to heal, wound still hurts- but no reason to let her down and not marry.

    Svenne O'Lotta
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, this. The way people are automatically labeling someone feeling things about stuff that has happened in their life as toxic and wrong and unresolved is a bit weird. People aren't blank slates, they have usually lived a whole life before they met you and it's more than a little presumptuous to expect that any and all feelings of any kind will revolve around you from now on

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    Paul Rabit
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What Fiance did was off-color, but OP calling off the whole wedding over it is - to me - the real Red Flag here.

    Lyoness
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Neither one of these people is covering themselves in glory. She made a stupid, immature remark, probably out of some leftover resentment from being abused (OP recognises the relationship was abusive). He objects, she immediately drops the idea. He then assumes she's not over him, goes scorched earth and cancels the wedding. I'm glad to read from the updates that they're getting counselling because without it I don't see the relationship surviving.

    Aline
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Run, girl, run. This guy saw red at the mention of a social interaction he didn't like. That's what the marriage will be. He wants someone to not only anticipate what he wants, but to just do it. No discussion, no respect for differing opinions, just rage. OP has admitted he wasn't in control of his reaction to a relatively expected conversation about wedding guests. Imagine if it was something.impoetant. she should count her blessings that he called it off.

    Orysha
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Op should be the one running. She wanted to invite a toxic ex to her wedding to prove a point. That's a big red flag

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    CatWoman1014
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think she needs solo therapy. It’s clear the abuse she endured with her ex is still affecting her in the present. She should resolve those issues before she moves on

    Orysha
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All the ytas should jump off a cliff. She's still seeking her ex's approval and that's not a good sign. Maybe counselling could help.

    Svenne O'Lotta
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whereas telling strangers online to kill themselves because you disagree with them is totally normal and healthy and definitely not completely unhinged behavior

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    Janelle Collard
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nah, call it off totally. If she + her ex were cordial friends, that's 1 thing. BUT - he was horrible to her + now she wants to do "Nah! Nah! Look how much better I did after you!" The ex takes up way too much space in her head.

    Deborah B
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She could be looking for some sort of closure or feeling of vindication. Kind of like the low-status high school ugly duckling wanting to go to their high-school reunion successful, gorgeous and fulfilled - not because they actually care about their former classmates, but as a vindication for their younger-self. Clearly, inviting the abusive ex to the wedding is a bad idea, but the impulse may not be about the ex himself. It could be about giving the past her - the abused, belittled, insecure person she used to be - that vindication. It does sound like something she should work out in therapy, and she may be struggling to find the words to explain the impulse.

    Captain Grump
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I knew that a prior boyfriend of my wife had physically abused her, it wouldn't be recommended to have me in the same room with that guy.

    Svenne O'Lotta
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What an absolute drama queen. Of course the impulse ro rub it in her ex's face is childish and dumb, but this guy is either the most fragile and insecure baby on earth or he was already looking for a way out.

    Meagan Glaser
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP has already decided that the fiancee is, and forever will be, wrong no matter what. Twisting words, refusing to understand explanations, and constantly looking for a "gotcha" to show off. Just end it man.

    Tyranamar Suess
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents were horribly abusive. You bet your a*s I invited them to medical school graduation. I just wanted to shove it in their face. "I did this DESPITE you!" I was cordial but did not hang out with them while they were there. It helped heal something for me. She's not inviting the ex bc she's hung up on wanting to be with him. She's inviting him to say, "See, everything you ever told me was c**p. I'm doing glorious!" What she's hung up on is the abuse she experienced. OP has no empathy for her. Isn't even trying to understand why she's doing it. He's just jumping to conclusions- must still be in love with her ex. I don't think that's what's going on here at all.

    tori Ohno
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You bet. I said that same thing, but got down voted. Don't people understand how abuse affects a victim's mind?

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    Will Cable
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They should look at those hills in the distance and run for them.

    Mark Childers
    Community Member
    18 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The "invitation" was clearly a final FU to the ex, as a petty gesture, knowing he'd never show his face. And on the off chance he did, security would take care of him. This guy seems really determined to see more to it than that. I know several very petty people who would do the same thing, but it's typically for nothing as the nail in the coffin and closure. A good conversation where he's not so defensive might really. He doesn't seem to be really listening, but deflecting.

    tori Ohno
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She's not obsessed with her ex, she's hurt because of the things he did and said, and her damaged psyche believed him. She knows better now, and wants to prove him wrong. I've been there and wanted to do exactly that, but I didn't because I knew he would try to kill both me and my fiance. She needs to take him up on his offer to break up, and then work on her man picker. Because she went from one jerk to another.

    BrownEyedPanda
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poor woman. She's poisoning her own well in hopes of her ex drinking from it. If OP decides to walk away once and for all, the ex will be the winner. Poor, foolish, immature woman.

    JD
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The YTA people are always off their rocker. She's obviously obsessed with her Ex if she was seriously considering inviting him for this specific reason. She was dehumanizing her fiance into a trophy. Nobody likes that. She's not over her Ex, and it shows big time.

    Fellfromthemoon
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Problem: fiancée still believes to an abusive ex. The abuser KNEW her worth. His words didn't reflect his opinion but his goals. And seven years later, she still has an urge to prove the abuser wrong. She has work to do before she is ready to carry on with a fully committed relationship.

    Svenne O'Lotta
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nothing of what you just wrote makes any sense, are you an underdeveloped AI or something? What does "believes to an abusive ex" mean? He knew her worth, what? How did you come to this conclusion and why is it relevant? How do you know anything about her ex's goals and/or opinions? None of this is in the text.

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    Nicole
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    🚩 🚩 🚩 her first thought was the ex which you would only do if there were feelings there and he called it off without even discussing it. Sounds like neither of them are ready for marriage.

    Debbie
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I doubt it was her first thought. But abuse isn't forgotten once it's in the past. She wants to show her abuser she is no longer his victim - and yes she is still dealing with it but that doesn't mean she can't love her fiancee! Her marriage is a relationship, love, parnership. It makes you reflect on past relationships. Him calling it off when she opened up to him about it, and him not seeming to understand where she is coming from is wrong. "Honey, I don't think this is a good idea. I would like the wedding to be about us, about our future, not about the past." She'll probably say: "I didn't look at it (inviting him) that way, but you're right. Let's not invite him".

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    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't get married. You still have a lot to work through. If you have a clingy ex, sometimes inviting them to the wedding puts an end to that, usually they don't come, they just get an invite and get the message. But, fiancée didn't fight OP on it. Didn't dig her heels in, just said ok. OP went nuclear immediately so he's either really insecure in the relationship or looking for n excuse to get out. Either way, don't get married any time soon.

    Sergio Bicerra
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She had a stupid reason to invite her ex and backed up, thats it, didn't argue, so I agree with you, he went nuclear, they're not ready to get married. Op doesn't say, but is this the only moment she's mentioned her ex besides telling how the relationship was or comments now and then things like 'you're such a good cook, not like ex that etc etc' That may change the balance of the situation in favor of op.

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    Mary Lou
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A woman affected If not traumatized by past abuse has the notion to show her tormentor that she prevailed. Bad Idea but YTA for being hung up on jealousy here and even going nuclear instead of being supportlve.

    Surly Scot
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "The best revenge is living well", this isn't about her showing him she prevailed, this is her wanting her ex to still feel something for her, even if it's jealousy, which is extremely toxic for her present life. Knowing the ex will see photos on FB of the wedding or whatever should have been enough, but she wanted to invite him to the wedding which could have caused problems, led to a fight, ruining her partner's "best day of his life" all because she wants revenge, not catharsis, but revenge. She has serious issues she needs to work through before committing to someone else

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    Libstak
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She was with ex for 2 years, single for 3 years and is in relationship with OP for 4 years. Thats 7 years since her relationship with the ex, yet she still wants to make a point about how well she has done with new man (OP). She won't let it go either, he has asked a bunch of questions and she has responded in ways that show she is still butt hurt and needs some kind of revenge (or is she hoping ex realises what he lost?). OP is right in his feelings, there is a huge question mark about who is in her mind and heart.

    Svenne O'Lotta
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do you automatically assume that the feelings she may or may not have about her ex are of the romantic kind? She might just hate his guts.

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    WonderWoman
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP is looking for reasons not to get married and blaming her and her silly comments. She went from one abuser to another, they just wear different masks.

    Traveling Lady Railfan
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kudos for recognizing the problem before you get married and agreeing to postpone indefinitely as well as counseling. To ignore this and just jump into marriage you're right, she constantly be trying to tag him in social media or in some other way show off you're wonderful honeymoon, you're beautiful vacations, your enviable home, you're gorgeous children, etc. You dont live your best life just so you can use it to rub it in the face of someone else. I get that being in an abusive relationship is damaging, but this isn't the way to heal from that experience. OP is wise.

    Rdj
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes don't marry or better don't start a relationship if one is not over their ex. That's asking for trouble.

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    Alexandra Nara
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    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She didn't cling to the ex but the pain he caused. Revenge only helps to let it go f he still is into her- Otherwise it becomes even more load,cause he destroyed her selfesteem by pushing her down AND he will : by not reacting at her wedding. She has some triggers to heal, wound still hurts- but no reason to let her down and not marry.

    Svenne O'Lotta
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, this. The way people are automatically labeling someone feeling things about stuff that has happened in their life as toxic and wrong and unresolved is a bit weird. People aren't blank slates, they have usually lived a whole life before they met you and it's more than a little presumptuous to expect that any and all feelings of any kind will revolve around you from now on

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    Paul Rabit
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What Fiance did was off-color, but OP calling off the whole wedding over it is - to me - the real Red Flag here.

    Lyoness
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Neither one of these people is covering themselves in glory. She made a stupid, immature remark, probably out of some leftover resentment from being abused (OP recognises the relationship was abusive). He objects, she immediately drops the idea. He then assumes she's not over him, goes scorched earth and cancels the wedding. I'm glad to read from the updates that they're getting counselling because without it I don't see the relationship surviving.

    Aline
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Run, girl, run. This guy saw red at the mention of a social interaction he didn't like. That's what the marriage will be. He wants someone to not only anticipate what he wants, but to just do it. No discussion, no respect for differing opinions, just rage. OP has admitted he wasn't in control of his reaction to a relatively expected conversation about wedding guests. Imagine if it was something.impoetant. she should count her blessings that he called it off.

    Orysha
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Op should be the one running. She wanted to invite a toxic ex to her wedding to prove a point. That's a big red flag

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    CatWoman1014
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think she needs solo therapy. It’s clear the abuse she endured with her ex is still affecting her in the present. She should resolve those issues before she moves on

    Orysha
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All the ytas should jump off a cliff. She's still seeking her ex's approval and that's not a good sign. Maybe counselling could help.

    Svenne O'Lotta
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whereas telling strangers online to kill themselves because you disagree with them is totally normal and healthy and definitely not completely unhinged behavior

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    Janelle Collard
    Community Member
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nah, call it off totally. If she + her ex were cordial friends, that's 1 thing. BUT - he was horrible to her + now she wants to do "Nah! Nah! Look how much better I did after you!" The ex takes up way too much space in her head.

    Deborah B
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She could be looking for some sort of closure or feeling of vindication. Kind of like the low-status high school ugly duckling wanting to go to their high-school reunion successful, gorgeous and fulfilled - not because they actually care about their former classmates, but as a vindication for their younger-self. Clearly, inviting the abusive ex to the wedding is a bad idea, but the impulse may not be about the ex himself. It could be about giving the past her - the abused, belittled, insecure person she used to be - that vindication. It does sound like something she should work out in therapy, and she may be struggling to find the words to explain the impulse.

    Captain Grump
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I knew that a prior boyfriend of my wife had physically abused her, it wouldn't be recommended to have me in the same room with that guy.

    Svenne O'Lotta
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What an absolute drama queen. Of course the impulse ro rub it in her ex's face is childish and dumb, but this guy is either the most fragile and insecure baby on earth or he was already looking for a way out.

    Meagan Glaser
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP has already decided that the fiancee is, and forever will be, wrong no matter what. Twisting words, refusing to understand explanations, and constantly looking for a "gotcha" to show off. Just end it man.

    Tyranamar Suess
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents were horribly abusive. You bet your a*s I invited them to medical school graduation. I just wanted to shove it in their face. "I did this DESPITE you!" I was cordial but did not hang out with them while they were there. It helped heal something for me. She's not inviting the ex bc she's hung up on wanting to be with him. She's inviting him to say, "See, everything you ever told me was c**p. I'm doing glorious!" What she's hung up on is the abuse she experienced. OP has no empathy for her. Isn't even trying to understand why she's doing it. He's just jumping to conclusions- must still be in love with her ex. I don't think that's what's going on here at all.

    tori Ohno
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You bet. I said that same thing, but got down voted. Don't people understand how abuse affects a victim's mind?

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    Will Cable
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They should look at those hills in the distance and run for them.

    Mark Childers
    Community Member
    18 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The "invitation" was clearly a final FU to the ex, as a petty gesture, knowing he'd never show his face. And on the off chance he did, security would take care of him. This guy seems really determined to see more to it than that. I know several very petty people who would do the same thing, but it's typically for nothing as the nail in the coffin and closure. A good conversation where he's not so defensive might really. He doesn't seem to be really listening, but deflecting.

    tori Ohno
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She's not obsessed with her ex, she's hurt because of the things he did and said, and her damaged psyche believed him. She knows better now, and wants to prove him wrong. I've been there and wanted to do exactly that, but I didn't because I knew he would try to kill both me and my fiance. She needs to take him up on his offer to break up, and then work on her man picker. Because she went from one jerk to another.

    BrownEyedPanda
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poor woman. She's poisoning her own well in hopes of her ex drinking from it. If OP decides to walk away once and for all, the ex will be the winner. Poor, foolish, immature woman.

    JD
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The YTA people are always off their rocker. She's obviously obsessed with her Ex if she was seriously considering inviting him for this specific reason. She was dehumanizing her fiance into a trophy. Nobody likes that. She's not over her Ex, and it shows big time.

    Fellfromthemoon
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Problem: fiancée still believes to an abusive ex. The abuser KNEW her worth. His words didn't reflect his opinion but his goals. And seven years later, she still has an urge to prove the abuser wrong. She has work to do before she is ready to carry on with a fully committed relationship.

    Svenne O'Lotta
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nothing of what you just wrote makes any sense, are you an underdeveloped AI or something? What does "believes to an abusive ex" mean? He knew her worth, what? How did you come to this conclusion and why is it relevant? How do you know anything about her ex's goals and/or opinions? None of this is in the text.

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    Nicole
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    🚩 🚩 🚩 her first thought was the ex which you would only do if there were feelings there and he called it off without even discussing it. Sounds like neither of them are ready for marriage.

    Debbie
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I doubt it was her first thought. But abuse isn't forgotten once it's in the past. She wants to show her abuser she is no longer his victim - and yes she is still dealing with it but that doesn't mean she can't love her fiancee! Her marriage is a relationship, love, parnership. It makes you reflect on past relationships. Him calling it off when she opened up to him about it, and him not seeming to understand where she is coming from is wrong. "Honey, I don't think this is a good idea. I would like the wedding to be about us, about our future, not about the past." She'll probably say: "I didn't look at it (inviting him) that way, but you're right. Let's not invite him".

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