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22 Y.O. Criticized By Boomer Grandparents For Failing To Move Out, Rants In Surprise How They Live In “Fantasy Land”
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22 Y.O. Criticized By Boomer Grandparents For Failing To Move Out, Rants In Surprise How They Live In “Fantasy Land”

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While the younger generations have realized that they might never be able to afford to buy a house or an apartment or even find a decently paying job, the older generations haven’t caught up to it yet and think the kids who haven’t moved out of their parents’ houses by 18 are lazy.

This 22-year-old on Reddit is annoyed with his grandparents who are disappointed that he still lives with them despite seeing how hard he works at his 2 jobs, and when he constantly lends them money so he isn’t able to save much.

This guy’s grandparents just told him that he “failed to launch”

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Despite him being only 22 years old and them seeing him work in two jobs and lending them money on top of that

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It frustrates the young man how his boomer grandparents can’t realize that it’s not him who has failed, but the system that has failed him

The Original Poster (OP) lives with his grandparents, because the wage he gets from his 2 jobs only allows him to pay $100 rent that he is asked by them. He often only gets one day off a week and usually works at least 9 hours a day.

However, that all goes unnoticed by his grandparents and they just told him that he “failed to launch.” The grandparents told him that despite seeing what long hours he works and borrowing money from them when they can’t afford their medicine.

It hurts the OP that the grandparents don’t understand he is trying his best and is always looking out for better jobs because he actually has a degree in computer information systems, but the problem is that there are no positions in his area and when there are, they ask for experience so they never call back even to set up an interview.

People in the comments commiserated with the OP and shared similar things their boomer parents or grandparents said. Although, there were a few people who were of the same generation as the OP’s grandparents who acknowledged that the times have changed and young people have it harder than they did at the same age.

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But from what we can see online, it seems that there are quite a lot of boomers who consider the younger generations lazy and simply put, losers, for not being able to afford a house, luxuries or even live on their own.

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Various research shows that they are wrong for being so judgemental. A study published by New America revealed that millennials earn 20 percent less than baby boomers did at the same ages despite 40 percent of millennials 25 to 37 having at least a bachelor’s degree compared to only 25 percent of baby boomers, as Pew Research Center discovered.

College education becoming more common made it a default requirement for getting a job and it is one of the reasons why millennials often don’t find a good job until they’re in their early 30s, as Georgetown University’s Center on Education and the Workforce found.

They say that “Young adults generally need at least some postsecondary education and work experience to have a decent chance of getting a good job.” That leads to longer searching periods for good jobs and higher educational debts so “young adults today accumulate less wealth than the previous generation, with disparities in wealth by race/ethnicity and gender.”

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BBC Worklife adds that it’s even worse for Gen Z: “In the US, despite general wage increases throughout the past five decades, the cost of living has far outstripped the pace of pay rises. It’s particularly acute for the youngest generation: some analyses show that in the US, Gen Z have about 86% less buying power than Baby Boomers did at the same age.”

It’s because many of them entered adulthood during the pandemic, which was a hit to the economy and jobs were scarce. The inflation is getting bigger by the day, there’s an energy price crisis and banks are increasing their interest rates.

So if you dig deeper into the current economic situation that young people need to become adults in, you feel less inclined to blame them for not being able to afford things as they can’t control the most important factors from which their wages and well-being depend.

Do you have an explanation why older generations fail to understand it? Why don’t they believe it when the proof is right before their eyes? Do you think it’s even necessary to own a home? Do you think it’s what people really want, or do they only want it because they are supposed to want it? Let us know your thoughts in the comments.

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People in the comments also wished that older people would realize the economy is not like it used to be when they were young

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Basselope
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boomer here. I can't tell you how much this angers me. My father had a sixth grade education and worked in a steel mill. My mother was a stay at home mom. Five kids, a 4 bedroom house, two cars, vacations (not extravagant, but a freaking vacation!) almost every year. We never went without meals, clothing, or the necessities for a comfortable life. On one salary! Now even with two incomes, people live paycheck to paycheck, often with the barest of necessities. The world has changed tremendously and anyone who can't see this is either immensely privileged or completely ignorant. My heart goes out to you. People need to wake up and help each other instead of judging and complaining when they have no clue of the stresses of living in today's world.

Annik Perrot
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hey, boomer here, with four millenial kids, and we helped them as much as we could. We paid for their schooling, gave them allowances till they had a job, helped them with a down payment when they wanted to buy. But then, here in France, the " you're 18, you're out on your own" bul*sh*t is not the norm. It's when they're starting their lives that our money can help them, not when they'll inherit it in their sixties.

Mari Mar Pinta
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My 26 year old is back at home because of how hard it is. There is no shame in that and she can stay as long as she needs to so she can pay off her debts and save for her house. She helps with the car and is a blessing for her brothers. We need to help these kids, not shame them because they didn't do what we did back in the day. I'm a Gen X and my Mom is a Boomer and we BOTH support my Daughter being home until she can her on her feet....

Lizzie Lola
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I left my parents at 23 with my then 3 to because I LITERALLY couldn't stay with them any more. I'm 45 and I'd be HORRIFIED if my 26 yo even TRIED to leave right now. He's a student working on 3 degrees, helps around the house, and is just an awesome kid (fantastic boyfriend, to boot! 😊) He and his 16 yo brother are welcome to stay forever, provided their partners are cool with it.

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The Mom
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My boomer mom told me, my brothers, and our respective children to live at home as long as possible/feasible. No point in wasting money on rent when we can stay home and save. I did not take that advice and struggled. My brothers stayed home until marriage. Out of six grandkids 1 moved out after marriage. 1 moved out to have privacy but has since returned home because of low wages. The other four are still living at home and saving their hard earned cash. My mom is a special boomer.

Robert T
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The US minimum wage is hopelessly outdated. To put it context, in the UK, at minimum wage you would only have to work 24 hours/week to earn the equivalent of $700/month. A full time job (40 hours/week) gives a salary of roughly £20k (gross - you would have some tax to pay), which would cover a mortgage, but the biggest problem is still getting enough money together to put down a deposit, as almost all of young people's income is taken up in rent.

StrangeOne
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Grandparents asking for more money from their overly-contributing grandchild. Doesn't sound like they have their lives together at all. They fully know well what the economy is life right now and are projecting. The only thing they are right with though is that he does need to move out. Move out and away from these cooks.

R Dennis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just turned 50. My wife and I bought our first house when I was 20. Those are no longer the times we live in... minimum wage has barely changed while costs have exploded. We refuse to pay young people a living wage. We require them to pay a fortune to get a degree and keep them in debt. Housing prices are unreasonable - $200,000 for a "starter home"... how are they supposed to afford that? My stepkids needed until almost 30 to get a footing and we helped them wherever we could. Anyone who doesn't see a problem isn't looking.

Zelda Fitzgerald
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

200,000 for a starter home sounds like a dream! Where I live, an absolute dump is at least half a million.

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Matt R
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If OP has an IT degree then they need to be looking at remote work. I question why that wasn't discussed. No, they won't get a job easily. Of course not. But it sounds like they're looking only locally. And if they expand to general techish related entry level work, they'll likely find something that can be expanded on. Even locally, go for mail room/entry level jobs related to your field that if you get in, you'll be able to make connections to nepo your way up. Would that fix their problem. No. The bigger problem remains. But it would give them more free time, likely net them benefits, and give them a future where they have the potential to grow. The greater problem remains. Even you do everything right, which will not be easy, you're still looking at 5 - 10 years before you're leaving that house. And you're living with people who just don't get it. So take them house shopping. Let them do the math that shows your shortfall. Wake them up from their delusions.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

More to the point, if OP has an IT degree and are working 2 min wage jobs, why? What are we not being told? That's the one field screaming for bodies these days - if they can't pull a livable wage in that field, they need to be looking further afield... as you say, there are tons of remote IT support positions. Don't get me wrong, the grandparents are definitely living in another era, one that is long gone, but there's something else awry here. Yardwork aside, OP is only paying a hundred a month for rent? No wonder they're miffed. At the take home claimed and federal min wage/average income tax, OP would be working about 14 days (of 8 hrs) a month... in IT.

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Boblawblaslawblog
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what happens when homes stop becoming shelter, and become investments. Owners want the value to rise as much as it can, as fast as it can. There is an entire culture based on buying homes, making improvements, and reselling as fast as possible while extracting the most profit as possible. Housing, particularly is the United States, needs a fundamental rethink. One solution that is market based would obviously be to build and sell more homes. Problem therein is that those that already own their homes almost never want new construction close by, especially if it is multifamily homes. Again, this stems from the owner class mentality that the home is an investment. The bottom line is that homes have become another cudgel between the haves and the have nots. Be continuing this paradigm, eventually the underclass will be large enough to have political power. This is where they may finally be able to exercise the strength in numbers, which will most likely make the owner class upset.

Sonja
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The solution is simple. Say yes, ask them for help and tell them to find a house for you to buy. The nagging will soon stop when they realise there are no houses to buy for the budget they have in their heads.

Electra1
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Fox News is responsible for a lot of their misconceptions because it's a fantasy network and the people who watch it buy what they spew hook, line and sinker. They fail to understand that the kind of jobs that allowed them to provide for their families back in the day just won't do it now. They also won't admit that the minimum wage isn't even enough to live on, and that the middle class has nearly been squeezed out of existence since the days of Reagan, whose policies began undercutting the middle class and feeding the rich. Many of them (not all) keep voting for the same sick bunch of scumbags who do nothing but funnel money to the rich and corporations, adding to the squeeze. They're part of the problem. Tell them that and they get indignant, but until they wake up and stop voting for a party that only supports the rich (and uses wedge issues to attract voters), nothing's going to change.

liam newton-harding
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know what you need to do? You need to walk into a business, ask for the owner, shake him firmly by the hand, and look him in the eye as you hand him your resume. You're just not trying!!! /s

censorshipsucks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

you forgot to say "and pull yourself up by your bootstraps" and "in my day we had it tough."

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R. H.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a late boomer (1958). Early '80s the President said we are going to become a "service economy". I asked your elders if they would work those jobs and they just smirked. They didn't see or care where it would lead and here we are.

censorshipsucks
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I only left home at like, 25. So no. Also especially if the elders are borrowing money from the kid... that really shows that THEY do not know how to manage finances. Lastly, this is just western weirdness. In africa and india it is normal for even married couples to stay in the parental home and ultimately look after the parents as they age.

Doug W
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Awesome little post here. It's sooooo f'd up in the western world. It's a very me me me oriented society.

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R. H.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a late boomer (1958). Early 80's grandma lives with mom and I. I come home from my grunt labor job and stretched out on the couch. Granny walks in gets a disgusted look on her face and calls me a bum. Wanders off . Just another day.

Victoria Knudsen
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

74 year old boomer here. We both worked and could actually afford babysitting. Owned a house in our early twenties. We didn't take vacation trips, we had three kids. Our youngest still lives with us because there is nothing affordable for him to buy or even rent. He tells us of the struggles his coworkers have, and I can do the math. It is true it is much worse these days. 22 is very young to have to listen to those stupid comments. I hope the poster can find a way to a better area for work and maybe some good friends to room with. My younger brother did that over fifty years ago and never regretted it. Best of luck!

Dillon Sizemore
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even in the places that pay more then minimum wage moving out that early is financial suicide. I make $18.45 an hour I can't get financing on a house and rent fore and apartment is $1400 a month nothing included for a 1 bedroom which I could afford I I don't mind saving $0 a month a being homeless once my car breaks down or I get sick then I'm on the street in debt and we are back at the bottom and a house starts at about $350k for a 3 bed 2 bath from the 1960s.

Brenda
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a GenX (1965) and so lucky my "boomer" parents mostly get it. My youngest, 22, lives with us (& them) and because of physical and mental health issues can't find a job. Oldest (28) has 2 kids (17 months and 2 months), 4 people in a 1 bedroom apartment because that's all they can afford. Both lost their job 2 months before youngest was born. I'm disabled and hubby had a stroke last October, so no income for 5+ months. This economy means they can't even do anything we did before he got sick.

Barb Fay
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm wondering what your grandparents estate planning looks like. For example, would they consider subtracting your part of inheritance off the top of the property value & then any money you pay towards rent or other household expenses would be considered house payments instead. I think this is called a reverse mortgage. It would be a win/win- your money is gaining equity & they would be out from under some expenses. I am a 'boomer' and you're right- the cost of living has not kept pace with wages or expenses, making it difficult if not impossible to achieve a similar lifestyle.

Blackheart
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless you are rich, EVERYONE has trouble starting out. Your grandparents need to appreciate what you do for them, and you need to appreciate what they do for you.

Doug W
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lmao. Appreciate their ignorance and refusal to grow up and understand money carries far less value then when they were 20 somethings. Good idea!!!! Lol. Thx 4 the chuckle.

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Dagnirath
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom just missed the cutoff for being a Boomer. The only way she could afford to buy a house was by buying out her siblings' share of Grandma's house with her inheritance. The only way she still has it is because we co-own the house and share the bills and taxes. As a Millennial, the only way I'll own a house is Mom said she'd move to an apartment and gift me the house as a wedding present, if I ever get married.

Doug W
Community Member
1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not all, but soooooo many boomers are out of touch. My only problem is when they criticize the youth when all they are doing is trying hard to deal with THE BS MESS boomers turned life into. The absolute greediest, crooked, and narcissistic generation ever. I'll die on that hill.

BoredPandaSucks
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm an X'er and it wasn't/isn't much better for us. i had to work 2 jobs to be able to get ahead. had to take a part time temp job (which took me over a year of searching, applying to get) in the field i was trying to get into, while working full time at another. i was working 6 days a week totaling somewhere around70-75 hours per week between the two. and for 2 years before that it, I was at the one job full time AND going to community college. It eventually got better, but sometimes it sucks for awhile before that happens

The Starsong Princess
Community Member
1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes, when you live with someone for free (or significantly below market rent) the price is listening to their c**p.

Colin
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel for the kid in terms of rent and housing but there are a few flags from him as well. Works two jobs, but if he works both the same day he works no less than 9 hours? So, similar to a regular full-time job then? He has a degree and admits his degree barely has openings in his field so either try to find a job out of area and move or open your own side gig and build it up. As for the grandparents, they have hot mess written all over them.

Stay Off My Lawn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So if I’ve got this correct, the young man pays rent and utilities, and buys his own groceries while living with his grandparents, and on top of that he also pays some of their expenses, and they’re whining about him living there??? They really don’t see the irony in taking their grandson’s money and then chastising him about not being able to afford his own home???

Peter Hall
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm 35 gonna be 36 in June and aside and I've never been able to move out and away from my parents. I only did it once back in 2018 when I took an under the table Security Guard Gig at a Housing Construction Site. Made $500 a week and lived in a crappy trailer. I also went to School for Medical Billing but was unable to find work after graduating, and got sick and had to go back home. I'm finally gonna be on my own, but only because my parents are moving out of of the apartment we've lived in for over 20 years. It's a three bedroom split between me, my parents, and 2 brothers. My parents share a bedroom, my little brother gets his own room, and I share a bedroom with my twin brother. My parents and little brother are moving out, and I'm gonna stay in the apartment with my twin

Chez2202
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry but working 2 jobs, 6 days per week and up to 9 hours per day when working both jobs does not equate to $700 per month after tax. This guy may have 2 jobs and he may work 9 hours 1 day per week but he can’t be doing more than a 2 or sometimes 3 hours per day for the rest of the week.

Metaniel
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would let them to have a close meeting with the reality. Stop supporting them when it's not needed. You didn't made it? Boo hoo, neither did I. They need a reality check, otherwise they will still live in that paradise

Vladimíra Matejová
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Older generation do not understand this. Everything is more expensive now plus the inflation in the last two years has been 15% in my country but 30% on groceries. Ppl went from enjoying their lives to worrying if they will be able to pay for energies

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Al Kenny
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another Boomer here. My kids have moved in and out and even with my older son, his wife and kid with him as jobs,rentals and travel for work varied. Older son got a good job (actually where I worked) and bought a house with my help. Younger son hates where we live( a small hamlet in the woods) and lives in a town about 75 miles away. And he rents a place with two others and works steadily but at not much above minimum wage and he also Doordashes. He lives in a HICOL area and I usually end up transferring 250-300 bucks a month to help him and I'm retired and just have pension income. So not all Boomers are blind to the fact things have changed.

Seadog
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem here is on both sides of the fence. Many older people havn't kept up with prices and don't understand the house they built in 1950 for $9000 now sells for $150000 or more. Younger people don't understand that as minimum wage increase, the cost of living increases even more, leaving you with less in the end. This is why before the 70's many could afford a house and car on a single income. Now, many can't afford them even with 2 full time incomes. I know people that make 6 figures, don't have a mortgage or student loans and are still living paycheck to paycheck.

adam karlan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I call bs on 2 jobs, my son is working 1 at McDonald's and is making more than 700 a month. And saying you work no less than 9 hours when you work both job says a lot. This person did fail to launch. My kid is 21 and is on his own in one of the highest COL states in the country.

Connie Richardson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A long, long time ago, I worked in a large company doing office work. Most of us didnt get paid enough to have an apartment or live bnb on our own. Raises weren't good. More people made their own clothes to help their money go further. We all had home economics in highschool and we were taught how to sew. I didnt start sewing my slacks until I saw the other young women's neat slacks, etc. My daddy gave me a sewing machine that my mother says she won in a raffle. I still have that machine. The skill still comes in handy for things I do without patterns. I have made table runners and sewn upholstery together before redoing the seat of a hope chest.

Peter Hall
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Suzie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Gets an IT degree and lives in an area with no IT jobs. Dude, you have to move to where the jobs in your degree are or you will always be stuck working two jobs for minimum wage. That's like my nephew who got a degree in sports management but refuses to live anywhere but his tiny hometown (population 2000) with no sports teams.

Deedee
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How many hours a week do you work and what is the minimum wage. Let's start there. You also pay $100 rent? I like to have facts before I start slamming his grandparents about being stupid, the same grand parents who have given u a place to live. So 2 jobs...hours and hourly wages please.

Mary Pigott
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm 59, my kids are 28 and 31. Today's world is vastly different than my parents and worlds away from how my grandparents had it. It's wrong to judge or criticize you. Even I can't get anything but minimum wage jobs.

Kate Jones
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The cost of living is insane and we can't expect younger people to do the same as older when there are less jobs, less opportunities and money equals a lot less than it used to. House buying and rent are out of control. That being said, it drives me crazy when people post this kind of stuff with comments like, "I pay my insurance, my food..." Yeah... you're supposed to pay for your own bills. You don't get a cookie for paying for yourself. And it's not unreasonable to pay a small amount of rent and help around the house if you live at home. If they're struggling so much that they ask you for help, say no. I'm not sure why people think anyone is obligated to help them but they aren't, that goes for them, too. The alternate is trying to go live on your own, which would be harder, but if you feel they are unreasonable it might be worth the 5 roommates you'll have. So do that if you're so unhappy. Otherwise, complaining about it doesn't solve anything.

ARCH-201
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP announced that he's basically paying for the portion of everything he uses. Idk where you read that he's complaining about it, he's making a point that he has to make up for what his grandparents can't pay while they judge him for still living with him. Idk what article you read

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sofacushionfort
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like this guy is out in the suburbs, where his grandparents will rent to him for $100. But it’s legally zoned out there against the affordable high-density housing that young singles need, and the jobs are dead-end service, not entry-level professional. Maybe he needs to climb onto the roof of a train with hundreds of others fleeing poor villages for a teeming megacity. Oh wait, he doesn’t have to because he still lives in a first-world nation.

Beachbum
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Barely Boomer here, raised 3 kids, both genders, all college grads, all live in expensive Southern cities and all are able to take care of their own expenses. We helped them get set up in their living spaces and they’ve been fine. If OP really has an IT job he needs to move. There are IT jobs all over the country. Save every dime he makes so he can afford an apartment, ditch the expensive smart phone for a stripped down model that calls and texts, get discount cell service, don’t eat out and go out. It is hard but can be done. Understand the difference between needs and wants. If it’s too expensive where you live….then move! Can’t find a job in your field, move. Or work for Amazon in their logistics department. Extremely hard work, pay is decent and you can save until you can move away! If you really want it, you can find a way.

Lindsey Beth
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My Dad graduated from Michigan State in 1972 and bought himself a brand new Camero SS V8 with an MSRP of under $3,000. He was a park ranger making $35,000 a year. He and my mom got married shortly after graduation and bought their first house immediately just on my dad's salary.

SlightlyTarnished
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The median average income in 1972 was a little over $7k per year, if your dad was making $35k as a park ranger I'd be astonished.

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Temporary Dork
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

IT graduate refuses to move out of the area and complains about the choices left to him.

Doug W
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because it's the same problems essentially everywhere. Where do you go when the whole economy and world is going to s**t and people who obviously are doing well just refuse to understand? What's your genius solution?

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Della
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This sounds bad, but it's only op side of the story. Where are these people accumulating all this debt? That's kind of what I don't get, as a boomer. I see my niece and nephew struggling financially, but no worse than I did at their age. I also see them spending frivolously, so there's still room to cut corners. Fancy hair and nail salons, tattoos, meal delivery, brand new vehicles ( newer than mine!) lead me to believe some of the hardship is self inflicted. Also, I bought 2 1/2 cars for nephew, all recked in record time, and niece has college completely paid for. They both inherited substantial money that would have helped them, but they pi$$ed it away... I'm not feeling much pain for them and their choices.

ANTIVICTORIA
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Your story doesn't add up. If (as you say) your net pay (@ 7.25ph) is <$700/month, you work 28-29 hours per week total. 2 part-time jobs for 14-15 hrs each doesn't even = 1 full-time job, let alone 2. And pay $100 a month in rent. Plus electricity. For 3 years. They're your Grandparents, not your parents. And you're bad-mouthing them on the internet based on your misperceptions of reality in today's world. Wages flattened 43 years ago, in 1980. Gen X was the first to live below the standard of their parents and in their basements. And not afford homes. I've worked decades for the same low wages. This is not new, nor unique. It's not your Grandparent's fault. Be angry at your employer, form a Union. You have it pretty good.

KCarol
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save up from your job.... look for a job out of town for better money.. move. I don't get this. I am 35... but I've never asked for a penny and I made it work. It CAN be done. Complaining won't get you anywhere

Doug W
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lucky you. You do realize life is completely different for everyone. Save up? Lmao, thanks for the laugh however. Ignorance truly is bliss right? For the record, I am very fortunate to even have a mortgage and I have worked my a*s off for the pennies I've made. You're a part of the bigger problem KCarol. It's not all about just you and what you've managed to do. Keep up the superiority complex 👍👍👍 Absolutely agree that complaining won't get you anywhere though. Very true.

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Gabriela
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Parents / grandparents are not obligated to support their adult kids / grandkids. Regardless of the financial situation OP seems to think their grandparents are trying to strip then of some inherent rights which is not the case

eame
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HEY WRITER OF THIS ARTICLE, enough with the outrage porn. Just post happy cats FFS this stuff is useless and divisive.

SlightlyTarnished
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1 year ago

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There's more to this story, as is usually the case. The 22yr old seems to reference a lot of reasons he can't get a more then minimum wage job, though I'm not buying it, if his degree is a legit degree (not some online joke of a school or certification), he would not be working minimum wage.

Doug W
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol. Are you for real? There are some damn well off people here who JUST REFUSE to get it. That's awesome your life is going so smooth. Jobs are harder to find and the bottom line is the value of a dollar goes nowhere near where it used to. This 22 year old is frustrated and rightfully so. Degrees cost a lot of money with essentially a promise of return on investment into an education. Well, not anymore. Education is very profitable and not nearly as useful to pay into as it once was. Quite the system we're stuck in.

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Aziz Zouaoui
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He's a loser. I loved our of my single mothers townhome during the largest financial crisis on the planet. Got a welding ticket and nothing past highschool. I worked my a*s off to get into a career I loved (suspension). You're just f*****g lazy. Go get a trade and get a real job. I'm sick of losers complaining like you.

Doug W
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Trades people are the worse. Welder. Typical classless response. Loser. Welders and electricians think they are far smarter then they are. Also, why is your post hidden? Confidence issues? Only opinionated if it's hidden?

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Basselope
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boomer here. I can't tell you how much this angers me. My father had a sixth grade education and worked in a steel mill. My mother was a stay at home mom. Five kids, a 4 bedroom house, two cars, vacations (not extravagant, but a freaking vacation!) almost every year. We never went without meals, clothing, or the necessities for a comfortable life. On one salary! Now even with two incomes, people live paycheck to paycheck, often with the barest of necessities. The world has changed tremendously and anyone who can't see this is either immensely privileged or completely ignorant. My heart goes out to you. People need to wake up and help each other instead of judging and complaining when they have no clue of the stresses of living in today's world.

Annik Perrot
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hey, boomer here, with four millenial kids, and we helped them as much as we could. We paid for their schooling, gave them allowances till they had a job, helped them with a down payment when they wanted to buy. But then, here in France, the " you're 18, you're out on your own" bul*sh*t is not the norm. It's when they're starting their lives that our money can help them, not when they'll inherit it in their sixties.

Mari Mar Pinta
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My 26 year old is back at home because of how hard it is. There is no shame in that and she can stay as long as she needs to so she can pay off her debts and save for her house. She helps with the car and is a blessing for her brothers. We need to help these kids, not shame them because they didn't do what we did back in the day. I'm a Gen X and my Mom is a Boomer and we BOTH support my Daughter being home until she can her on her feet....

Lizzie Lola
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I left my parents at 23 with my then 3 to because I LITERALLY couldn't stay with them any more. I'm 45 and I'd be HORRIFIED if my 26 yo even TRIED to leave right now. He's a student working on 3 degrees, helps around the house, and is just an awesome kid (fantastic boyfriend, to boot! 😊) He and his 16 yo brother are welcome to stay forever, provided their partners are cool with it.

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The Mom
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My boomer mom told me, my brothers, and our respective children to live at home as long as possible/feasible. No point in wasting money on rent when we can stay home and save. I did not take that advice and struggled. My brothers stayed home until marriage. Out of six grandkids 1 moved out after marriage. 1 moved out to have privacy but has since returned home because of low wages. The other four are still living at home and saving their hard earned cash. My mom is a special boomer.

Robert T
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The US minimum wage is hopelessly outdated. To put it context, in the UK, at minimum wage you would only have to work 24 hours/week to earn the equivalent of $700/month. A full time job (40 hours/week) gives a salary of roughly £20k (gross - you would have some tax to pay), which would cover a mortgage, but the biggest problem is still getting enough money together to put down a deposit, as almost all of young people's income is taken up in rent.

StrangeOne
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Grandparents asking for more money from their overly-contributing grandchild. Doesn't sound like they have their lives together at all. They fully know well what the economy is life right now and are projecting. The only thing they are right with though is that he does need to move out. Move out and away from these cooks.

R Dennis
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just turned 50. My wife and I bought our first house when I was 20. Those are no longer the times we live in... minimum wage has barely changed while costs have exploded. We refuse to pay young people a living wage. We require them to pay a fortune to get a degree and keep them in debt. Housing prices are unreasonable - $200,000 for a "starter home"... how are they supposed to afford that? My stepkids needed until almost 30 to get a footing and we helped them wherever we could. Anyone who doesn't see a problem isn't looking.

Zelda Fitzgerald
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

200,000 for a starter home sounds like a dream! Where I live, an absolute dump is at least half a million.

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Matt R
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If OP has an IT degree then they need to be looking at remote work. I question why that wasn't discussed. No, they won't get a job easily. Of course not. But it sounds like they're looking only locally. And if they expand to general techish related entry level work, they'll likely find something that can be expanded on. Even locally, go for mail room/entry level jobs related to your field that if you get in, you'll be able to make connections to nepo your way up. Would that fix their problem. No. The bigger problem remains. But it would give them more free time, likely net them benefits, and give them a future where they have the potential to grow. The greater problem remains. Even you do everything right, which will not be easy, you're still looking at 5 - 10 years before you're leaving that house. And you're living with people who just don't get it. So take them house shopping. Let them do the math that shows your shortfall. Wake them up from their delusions.

What does this button do?
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

More to the point, if OP has an IT degree and are working 2 min wage jobs, why? What are we not being told? That's the one field screaming for bodies these days - if they can't pull a livable wage in that field, they need to be looking further afield... as you say, there are tons of remote IT support positions. Don't get me wrong, the grandparents are definitely living in another era, one that is long gone, but there's something else awry here. Yardwork aside, OP is only paying a hundred a month for rent? No wonder they're miffed. At the take home claimed and federal min wage/average income tax, OP would be working about 14 days (of 8 hrs) a month... in IT.

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Boblawblaslawblog
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what happens when homes stop becoming shelter, and become investments. Owners want the value to rise as much as it can, as fast as it can. There is an entire culture based on buying homes, making improvements, and reselling as fast as possible while extracting the most profit as possible. Housing, particularly is the United States, needs a fundamental rethink. One solution that is market based would obviously be to build and sell more homes. Problem therein is that those that already own their homes almost never want new construction close by, especially if it is multifamily homes. Again, this stems from the owner class mentality that the home is an investment. The bottom line is that homes have become another cudgel between the haves and the have nots. Be continuing this paradigm, eventually the underclass will be large enough to have political power. This is where they may finally be able to exercise the strength in numbers, which will most likely make the owner class upset.

Sonja
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The solution is simple. Say yes, ask them for help and tell them to find a house for you to buy. The nagging will soon stop when they realise there are no houses to buy for the budget they have in their heads.

Electra1
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Fox News is responsible for a lot of their misconceptions because it's a fantasy network and the people who watch it buy what they spew hook, line and sinker. They fail to understand that the kind of jobs that allowed them to provide for their families back in the day just won't do it now. They also won't admit that the minimum wage isn't even enough to live on, and that the middle class has nearly been squeezed out of existence since the days of Reagan, whose policies began undercutting the middle class and feeding the rich. Many of them (not all) keep voting for the same sick bunch of scumbags who do nothing but funnel money to the rich and corporations, adding to the squeeze. They're part of the problem. Tell them that and they get indignant, but until they wake up and stop voting for a party that only supports the rich (and uses wedge issues to attract voters), nothing's going to change.

liam newton-harding
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know what you need to do? You need to walk into a business, ask for the owner, shake him firmly by the hand, and look him in the eye as you hand him your resume. You're just not trying!!! /s

censorshipsucks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

you forgot to say "and pull yourself up by your bootstraps" and "in my day we had it tough."

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R. H.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a late boomer (1958). Early '80s the President said we are going to become a "service economy". I asked your elders if they would work those jobs and they just smirked. They didn't see or care where it would lead and here we are.

censorshipsucks
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I only left home at like, 25. So no. Also especially if the elders are borrowing money from the kid... that really shows that THEY do not know how to manage finances. Lastly, this is just western weirdness. In africa and india it is normal for even married couples to stay in the parental home and ultimately look after the parents as they age.

Doug W
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Awesome little post here. It's sooooo f'd up in the western world. It's a very me me me oriented society.

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R. H.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a late boomer (1958). Early 80's grandma lives with mom and I. I come home from my grunt labor job and stretched out on the couch. Granny walks in gets a disgusted look on her face and calls me a bum. Wanders off . Just another day.

Victoria Knudsen
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

74 year old boomer here. We both worked and could actually afford babysitting. Owned a house in our early twenties. We didn't take vacation trips, we had three kids. Our youngest still lives with us because there is nothing affordable for him to buy or even rent. He tells us of the struggles his coworkers have, and I can do the math. It is true it is much worse these days. 22 is very young to have to listen to those stupid comments. I hope the poster can find a way to a better area for work and maybe some good friends to room with. My younger brother did that over fifty years ago and never regretted it. Best of luck!

Dillon Sizemore
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even in the places that pay more then minimum wage moving out that early is financial suicide. I make $18.45 an hour I can't get financing on a house and rent fore and apartment is $1400 a month nothing included for a 1 bedroom which I could afford I I don't mind saving $0 a month a being homeless once my car breaks down or I get sick then I'm on the street in debt and we are back at the bottom and a house starts at about $350k for a 3 bed 2 bath from the 1960s.

Brenda
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a GenX (1965) and so lucky my "boomer" parents mostly get it. My youngest, 22, lives with us (& them) and because of physical and mental health issues can't find a job. Oldest (28) has 2 kids (17 months and 2 months), 4 people in a 1 bedroom apartment because that's all they can afford. Both lost their job 2 months before youngest was born. I'm disabled and hubby had a stroke last October, so no income for 5+ months. This economy means they can't even do anything we did before he got sick.

Barb Fay
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm wondering what your grandparents estate planning looks like. For example, would they consider subtracting your part of inheritance off the top of the property value & then any money you pay towards rent or other household expenses would be considered house payments instead. I think this is called a reverse mortgage. It would be a win/win- your money is gaining equity & they would be out from under some expenses. I am a 'boomer' and you're right- the cost of living has not kept pace with wages or expenses, making it difficult if not impossible to achieve a similar lifestyle.

Blackheart
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless you are rich, EVERYONE has trouble starting out. Your grandparents need to appreciate what you do for them, and you need to appreciate what they do for you.

Doug W
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lmao. Appreciate their ignorance and refusal to grow up and understand money carries far less value then when they were 20 somethings. Good idea!!!! Lol. Thx 4 the chuckle.

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Dagnirath
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom just missed the cutoff for being a Boomer. The only way she could afford to buy a house was by buying out her siblings' share of Grandma's house with her inheritance. The only way she still has it is because we co-own the house and share the bills and taxes. As a Millennial, the only way I'll own a house is Mom said she'd move to an apartment and gift me the house as a wedding present, if I ever get married.

Doug W
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not all, but soooooo many boomers are out of touch. My only problem is when they criticize the youth when all they are doing is trying hard to deal with THE BS MESS boomers turned life into. The absolute greediest, crooked, and narcissistic generation ever. I'll die on that hill.

BoredPandaSucks
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm an X'er and it wasn't/isn't much better for us. i had to work 2 jobs to be able to get ahead. had to take a part time temp job (which took me over a year of searching, applying to get) in the field i was trying to get into, while working full time at another. i was working 6 days a week totaling somewhere around70-75 hours per week between the two. and for 2 years before that it, I was at the one job full time AND going to community college. It eventually got better, but sometimes it sucks for awhile before that happens

The Starsong Princess
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes, when you live with someone for free (or significantly below market rent) the price is listening to their c**p.

Colin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel for the kid in terms of rent and housing but there are a few flags from him as well. Works two jobs, but if he works both the same day he works no less than 9 hours? So, similar to a regular full-time job then? He has a degree and admits his degree barely has openings in his field so either try to find a job out of area and move or open your own side gig and build it up. As for the grandparents, they have hot mess written all over them.

Stay Off My Lawn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So if I’ve got this correct, the young man pays rent and utilities, and buys his own groceries while living with his grandparents, and on top of that he also pays some of their expenses, and they’re whining about him living there??? They really don’t see the irony in taking their grandson’s money and then chastising him about not being able to afford his own home???

Peter Hall
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm 35 gonna be 36 in June and aside and I've never been able to move out and away from my parents. I only did it once back in 2018 when I took an under the table Security Guard Gig at a Housing Construction Site. Made $500 a week and lived in a crappy trailer. I also went to School for Medical Billing but was unable to find work after graduating, and got sick and had to go back home. I'm finally gonna be on my own, but only because my parents are moving out of of the apartment we've lived in for over 20 years. It's a three bedroom split between me, my parents, and 2 brothers. My parents share a bedroom, my little brother gets his own room, and I share a bedroom with my twin brother. My parents and little brother are moving out, and I'm gonna stay in the apartment with my twin

Chez2202
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry but working 2 jobs, 6 days per week and up to 9 hours per day when working both jobs does not equate to $700 per month after tax. This guy may have 2 jobs and he may work 9 hours 1 day per week but he can’t be doing more than a 2 or sometimes 3 hours per day for the rest of the week.

Metaniel
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would let them to have a close meeting with the reality. Stop supporting them when it's not needed. You didn't made it? Boo hoo, neither did I. They need a reality check, otherwise they will still live in that paradise

Vladimíra Matejová
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Older generation do not understand this. Everything is more expensive now plus the inflation in the last two years has been 15% in my country but 30% on groceries. Ppl went from enjoying their lives to worrying if they will be able to pay for energies

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Al Kenny
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another Boomer here. My kids have moved in and out and even with my older son, his wife and kid with him as jobs,rentals and travel for work varied. Older son got a good job (actually where I worked) and bought a house with my help. Younger son hates where we live( a small hamlet in the woods) and lives in a town about 75 miles away. And he rents a place with two others and works steadily but at not much above minimum wage and he also Doordashes. He lives in a HICOL area and I usually end up transferring 250-300 bucks a month to help him and I'm retired and just have pension income. So not all Boomers are blind to the fact things have changed.

Seadog
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem here is on both sides of the fence. Many older people havn't kept up with prices and don't understand the house they built in 1950 for $9000 now sells for $150000 or more. Younger people don't understand that as minimum wage increase, the cost of living increases even more, leaving you with less in the end. This is why before the 70's many could afford a house and car on a single income. Now, many can't afford them even with 2 full time incomes. I know people that make 6 figures, don't have a mortgage or student loans and are still living paycheck to paycheck.

adam karlan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I call bs on 2 jobs, my son is working 1 at McDonald's and is making more than 700 a month. And saying you work no less than 9 hours when you work both job says a lot. This person did fail to launch. My kid is 21 and is on his own in one of the highest COL states in the country.

Connie Richardson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A long, long time ago, I worked in a large company doing office work. Most of us didnt get paid enough to have an apartment or live bnb on our own. Raises weren't good. More people made their own clothes to help their money go further. We all had home economics in highschool and we were taught how to sew. I didnt start sewing my slacks until I saw the other young women's neat slacks, etc. My daddy gave me a sewing machine that my mother says she won in a raffle. I still have that machine. The skill still comes in handy for things I do without patterns. I have made table runners and sewn upholstery together before redoing the seat of a hope chest.

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Suzie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Gets an IT degree and lives in an area with no IT jobs. Dude, you have to move to where the jobs in your degree are or you will always be stuck working two jobs for minimum wage. That's like my nephew who got a degree in sports management but refuses to live anywhere but his tiny hometown (population 2000) with no sports teams.

Deedee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How many hours a week do you work and what is the minimum wage. Let's start there. You also pay $100 rent? I like to have facts before I start slamming his grandparents about being stupid, the same grand parents who have given u a place to live. So 2 jobs...hours and hourly wages please.

Mary Pigott
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm 59, my kids are 28 and 31. Today's world is vastly different than my parents and worlds away from how my grandparents had it. It's wrong to judge or criticize you. Even I can't get anything but minimum wage jobs.

Kate Jones
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The cost of living is insane and we can't expect younger people to do the same as older when there are less jobs, less opportunities and money equals a lot less than it used to. House buying and rent are out of control. That being said, it drives me crazy when people post this kind of stuff with comments like, "I pay my insurance, my food..." Yeah... you're supposed to pay for your own bills. You don't get a cookie for paying for yourself. And it's not unreasonable to pay a small amount of rent and help around the house if you live at home. If they're struggling so much that they ask you for help, say no. I'm not sure why people think anyone is obligated to help them but they aren't, that goes for them, too. The alternate is trying to go live on your own, which would be harder, but if you feel they are unreasonable it might be worth the 5 roommates you'll have. So do that if you're so unhappy. Otherwise, complaining about it doesn't solve anything.

ARCH-201
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP announced that he's basically paying for the portion of everything he uses. Idk where you read that he's complaining about it, he's making a point that he has to make up for what his grandparents can't pay while they judge him for still living with him. Idk what article you read

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sofacushionfort
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It sounds like this guy is out in the suburbs, where his grandparents will rent to him for $100. But it’s legally zoned out there against the affordable high-density housing that young singles need, and the jobs are dead-end service, not entry-level professional. Maybe he needs to climb onto the roof of a train with hundreds of others fleeing poor villages for a teeming megacity. Oh wait, he doesn’t have to because he still lives in a first-world nation.

Beachbum
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Barely Boomer here, raised 3 kids, both genders, all college grads, all live in expensive Southern cities and all are able to take care of their own expenses. We helped them get set up in their living spaces and they’ve been fine. If OP really has an IT job he needs to move. There are IT jobs all over the country. Save every dime he makes so he can afford an apartment, ditch the expensive smart phone for a stripped down model that calls and texts, get discount cell service, don’t eat out and go out. It is hard but can be done. Understand the difference between needs and wants. If it’s too expensive where you live….then move! Can’t find a job in your field, move. Or work for Amazon in their logistics department. Extremely hard work, pay is decent and you can save until you can move away! If you really want it, you can find a way.

Lindsey Beth
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My Dad graduated from Michigan State in 1972 and bought himself a brand new Camero SS V8 with an MSRP of under $3,000. He was a park ranger making $35,000 a year. He and my mom got married shortly after graduation and bought their first house immediately just on my dad's salary.

SlightlyTarnished
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The median average income in 1972 was a little over $7k per year, if your dad was making $35k as a park ranger I'd be astonished.

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Temporary Dork
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

IT graduate refuses to move out of the area and complains about the choices left to him.

Doug W
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because it's the same problems essentially everywhere. Where do you go when the whole economy and world is going to s**t and people who obviously are doing well just refuse to understand? What's your genius solution?

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Della
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This sounds bad, but it's only op side of the story. Where are these people accumulating all this debt? That's kind of what I don't get, as a boomer. I see my niece and nephew struggling financially, but no worse than I did at their age. I also see them spending frivolously, so there's still room to cut corners. Fancy hair and nail salons, tattoos, meal delivery, brand new vehicles ( newer than mine!) lead me to believe some of the hardship is self inflicted. Also, I bought 2 1/2 cars for nephew, all recked in record time, and niece has college completely paid for. They both inherited substantial money that would have helped them, but they pi$$ed it away... I'm not feeling much pain for them and their choices.

ANTIVICTORIA
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1 year ago

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Your story doesn't add up. If (as you say) your net pay (@ 7.25ph) is <$700/month, you work 28-29 hours per week total. 2 part-time jobs for 14-15 hrs each doesn't even = 1 full-time job, let alone 2. And pay $100 a month in rent. Plus electricity. For 3 years. They're your Grandparents, not your parents. And you're bad-mouthing them on the internet based on your misperceptions of reality in today's world. Wages flattened 43 years ago, in 1980. Gen X was the first to live below the standard of their parents and in their basements. And not afford homes. I've worked decades for the same low wages. This is not new, nor unique. It's not your Grandparent's fault. Be angry at your employer, form a Union. You have it pretty good.

KCarol
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1 year ago

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save up from your job.... look for a job out of town for better money.. move. I don't get this. I am 35... but I've never asked for a penny and I made it work. It CAN be done. Complaining won't get you anywhere

Doug W
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lucky you. You do realize life is completely different for everyone. Save up? Lmao, thanks for the laugh however. Ignorance truly is bliss right? For the record, I am very fortunate to even have a mortgage and I have worked my a*s off for the pennies I've made. You're a part of the bigger problem KCarol. It's not all about just you and what you've managed to do. Keep up the superiority complex 👍👍👍 Absolutely agree that complaining won't get you anywhere though. Very true.

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Gabriela
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1 year ago

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Parents / grandparents are not obligated to support their adult kids / grandkids. Regardless of the financial situation OP seems to think their grandparents are trying to strip then of some inherent rights which is not the case

eame
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1 year ago

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HEY WRITER OF THIS ARTICLE, enough with the outrage porn. Just post happy cats FFS this stuff is useless and divisive.

SlightlyTarnished
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1 year ago

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There's more to this story, as is usually the case. The 22yr old seems to reference a lot of reasons he can't get a more then minimum wage job, though I'm not buying it, if his degree is a legit degree (not some online joke of a school or certification), he would not be working minimum wage.

Doug W
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol. Are you for real? There are some damn well off people here who JUST REFUSE to get it. That's awesome your life is going so smooth. Jobs are harder to find and the bottom line is the value of a dollar goes nowhere near where it used to. This 22 year old is frustrated and rightfully so. Degrees cost a lot of money with essentially a promise of return on investment into an education. Well, not anymore. Education is very profitable and not nearly as useful to pay into as it once was. Quite the system we're stuck in.

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Aziz Zouaoui
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1 year ago

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He's a loser. I loved our of my single mothers townhome during the largest financial crisis on the planet. Got a welding ticket and nothing past highschool. I worked my a*s off to get into a career I loved (suspension). You're just f*****g lazy. Go get a trade and get a real job. I'm sick of losers complaining like you.

Doug W
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Trades people are the worse. Welder. Typical classless response. Loser. Welders and electricians think they are far smarter then they are. Also, why is your post hidden? Confidence issues? Only opinionated if it's hidden?

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