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HOA Reprimands Man For Having Guests With Black SUVs, Apologizes After Seeing His Post Online
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HOA Reprimands Man For Having Guests With Black SUVs, Apologizes After Seeing His Post Online

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Depending on where you live, you might have to deal with a pedantic and often self-appointed group of busy-bodies that call themselves a home-owner’s association (HOA). Unlike the “regular” entitled folks that might bother someone on a normal day, the esteemed members of some HOA’s feel like they truly can regulate what people do in the privacy of their own property.

A netizen vented online about a very annoying and paranoid email their HOA sent them after some of his birthday guests arrived in black SUVs. We reached out to the man who shared the story via private message and will update the article when he gets back to us.

One has to be very paranoid and nosy to make complaints about the sorts of cars your neighbors guests drive

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But a man encountered a HOA run by people who truly were concerned about the black SUVs parked on his property

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Some folks can’t help but be annoying neighbors and even create whole organizations to enforce their “vision”

It might not surprise anyone that the first HOA’s were established for less-than-nice reasons. In 1905, Pasadena resident Henry Huntington, a railroad magnate, founded the Arroyo Seco Improvement Association which more or less functioned as an institution devoted to ensuring that only white people could live in his neighborhood.

At the time, it was legal to form zoning restrictions on non-white and even non-Christian residents, unless they were domestic servants, which should give you a pretty good idea about what sort of people we are dealing with here. It was only forty three years later, in 1948, that the US ruled that these sorts of regulations were illegal (Shelley v. Kraemer) and outlawed the practice.

However, this had little to no impact on the various busy-bodies that inhabit suburbia who truly think they should be able to decide what other folks do on their properties. For those who live in countries without this “institution,” it’s actually a lot worse than it sounds. In many parts of the US, HOA membership is mandatory, and that includes the regular fees.

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In legal terms, the documents establishing an HOA “run with the land,” which creates a situation where all current and future homeowners will have to be part of the association. One might ask, why does this thing exist in the 21st century anymore. In general, the idea is to help maintain property value by keeping the entire neighborhood “up to scratch.” After all, it’s generally understood that a home or piece of land doesn’t “sit in a vacuum” and has much of its value derived from what is around it.

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HOA can often literally tell homeowners what they can and can’t do

However, it’s pretty easy to see how a “board of directors” of a mandatory, semi-permanent institution is going to attract the worst kind of people. Perhaps it’s unfair to immediately judge so many people just for “engaging” with their neighborhood, but the existence of groups like the one this man posted to indicates that many residents feel the same way. There are times where it’s perhaps a good thing to have some body that can rule on disagreements, but the color and type of cars is just too far.

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After all, if you have gone to the trouble of purchasing a home, you probably want to enjoy the privacy that brings. In many cases, homeowners have to contribute funds to a HOA. Imagine paying that is basically a monthly subscription for the “privilege” of living on the property you own and then seeing them literally harass you over the sort of cars your guests drive. Unfortunately, entitled neighbors are just a reality of life, but them having the supposed “power” of a HOA behind them is a lot worse.

In many places, HOA have strict guidelines on what sort of things homeowners can display, regulations for, say, the heights of fences and even the color homes can be. Unfortunately, these tend to not be based on anything more than the general preferences of the “board of directors.” One might be forgiven for thinking that the idea that some random neighbors can tell you not to paint your house however you want is downright ridiculous.

If this story did make you feel truly annoyed at this body of paranoid neighbor-watchers, the good news is that the man did later share that the HOA actually found his post. He gave his reply, which can be found further down in the article. Let it be a warning to those deeply entitled neighbors out there, literally thousands of internet users would suggest that you just mind your own business.

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Some readers wanted more details

Others gave some suggestions for what he should reply with

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Later, he shared another email sent by the HOA and his response

 

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Natasha Clark
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This let me further know NEVER to move to a HOA community, they are indeed a nightmare to deal with.

G Bono
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm curious if this applies only to guests or if it extended to homeowners, as well. I'm also wondering if approvals are required before purchasing a vehicle, and if so, exactly who approves the purchase and if there is a form. Stupidity should never be indulged

L Coffeen
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"To whom it mat concern, I am purchasing a black SUV with tinted windows. Try not to wet yourself. Sincerely, irritated homeowner."

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Game Guy
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is the kind of situation that requires the Cleveland Browns response. Back in the 70s a lawyer went to a Browns game and got mad that kids were throwing paper airplanes. So he wrote a nasty letter on his law firm's letterhead that the kids were going to poke someone's eye out and he would sue the team if that happened. The lawyer for the Browns wrote the perfect reply for asininity like that: ”Dear XX, attached is a letter we received on November 19, 1974. I feel that you should be aware that some a*****e is signing your name to stupid letters. Very truly yours /s/”

Curry on...
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are some paranoid people out here. It's a wonder they can even open their front doors.

UpupaEpops
Community Member
2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just out of sheer curiosity since blacked-out cars are super uncommon where I am. Are they common in the US? And why do people like them? Edit because flippin' autocorrect

Pyla
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They are cool, tinting is helpful in hot weather and sometimes adds a level of privacy. I don't know if adds security or not, but it might. I have it on my Subaru, it was used and came that way. Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.

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Id row
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Person willingly moves into an HOA and agrees to have their life micromanaged and even pay for the privilege every month. Then they're shocked that they get micromanaged. Why anyone buys in an HOA is just baffling.

Thanos'Fingers
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because over 50% of owner occupied housing in the US is covered by an HOA. And there already is not enough housing. People aren't generally signing on to these things because they want to.. they just want a house. I get it, I'm about ready to start stacking logs myself.

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Morngaur of Gorgoroth
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Dear HOA Vice President, I quite agree. I think the black-tinted black SUV's are far too obvious in this day and age. I've raised this issue with the Agency on several occasions, so far without success (oh, the vicissitudes of bureaucracy). Well, at least we can all take comfort in the knowledge that Pioneer had a safe and productive journey. She was quite taken with our little cul-de-sac, in fact. By the way, I probably don't even have to mention this, but please ensure that no one outside of our immediate neighborhood is made aware of the presence of these vehicles on that date. Please alert the other homeowners of the need for security, as well. I thank you, and your country thanks you."

Jane Doe
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dear Homeowner, Please don't release any information identifying us. That would be prejudicial and rude. We don't like that. I'm sure you understand how awful it would be to have people make evil assumptions about us and say rotten things about us. Thanks for understanding.

Giraffy Window
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have an irrational unease involving cars who's stereos are loud enough you can hear their windshields humming before the vehicle is anywhere in sight. Know what I'd never do about that? Join an HOA community. I'd legit rather have moments of irrational unease or fear than ever willingly be part of another HOA lol

Full of Giggles
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I highly doubt several community were concerned about the black vehicles. I almost positive it was one person and they abused their HOA powers to let their concern be known.

Thanos'Fingers
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Which also means they saw the Reddit post themselves, read it, saw the email screenshot, and thought "hey that looks familiar..." That just makes this so much better 😂

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P.L. Packer
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The 5% of the poll takers who don't believe the HOA is in the wrong are HOA board members elsewhere.

Sjmokla M
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I own a black SUV and it even has a white skull painted on the hood, would one of your friends like to borrow it for your next party.

Kelly Scott
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just tell the HOA that your house is haunted and all you did was call Ghost Hunters. That should calm everyone down.

️️Upvote faery️
Community Member
1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Please let us know if there's anything YOU can do to avoid future" blah blah blah... Anything OP can do?!? What???

Tracy Bower
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If, for any reason, under any circumstance, I need to go to an HOA neighborhood to park my vehicle, I do hope that I am made aware in advance that it is an HOA neighborhood. I will do my best to blast the worst death metal I can, while exposing all of my moderately tattooed upper body that is decent, and wearing my heaviest body mod jewelry and scariest tee and such. So that I can jump out of my SUV and stick out my tongue with my fangs on and scream “Hail Satan!” at whomever dares to look out their windows with their nosy little selves. Why must what vehicle someone drives become an issue is beyond me… unless that vehicle is ridiculously loud or has like some horrible plastered on it, like a naked body or something. That’s the only reason I could possibly see why it would be offensive.

Owiella Freddie
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think you should start reporting Prius and other "smart" vehicle sightings in the neighborhood as suspicious because, quite frankly, they are a death trap and could cause you to glimpse something truly ugly.

María Hermida
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Somebody must have told Karen she could be sued for discrimination, and she also saw many people supported the party man and she could get in trouble. The "apology" sounds really forced and insincere.

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SuperChicken
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, I didn't know the HOA "leaders" know how to tap dance and back paddle at the same time (based from that response they gave). Great talents, I say.🙄

Gale Christensen
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If blacked out SUV's caused such alarm, what TF are your neighbors doing that warrants such a response? D***s? Prostitution? Child trafficking? Theft? Murder? Cause if you ain't doing anything wrong, why would cop show SUV's freak you out?

Michael
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, I question why people move into HOA areas. Then has a bunch of friends who drive large, black SUVs. Sounds like a fun group. 🤣

marianne eliza
Community Member
2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How to fix HOA's: Every single homeowner in the HOA must serve on the board in rotation. No elections, no volunteers. The term of service should be at least 1 year. If someone cannot serve that particular year for a very good reason, they must serve the next, no exceptions.

tee-lena
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exceptions for the disabled are mandatory. We will not accept otherwise.

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Christopher Crockett
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, I would do some research and see if the next rentals could be dinged up white panel vans. Put up cardboard signs by the sliding doors that say "knock for free candy". (insert evil Skeletor laugh here)

Scott Rackley
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Response: Sure, I'll give you a freebie this time. Next time there will be no redactions.

G A
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Tell her The Donald" was there? WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? There goes the neighbourhood....

Katiekat
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How could anyone possibly control what other people drive? There's no way that's enforceable.

Natasha Clark
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This let me further know NEVER to move to a HOA community, they are indeed a nightmare to deal with.

G Bono
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm curious if this applies only to guests or if it extended to homeowners, as well. I'm also wondering if approvals are required before purchasing a vehicle, and if so, exactly who approves the purchase and if there is a form. Stupidity should never be indulged

L Coffeen
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"To whom it mat concern, I am purchasing a black SUV with tinted windows. Try not to wet yourself. Sincerely, irritated homeowner."

Load More Replies...
Game Guy
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is the kind of situation that requires the Cleveland Browns response. Back in the 70s a lawyer went to a Browns game and got mad that kids were throwing paper airplanes. So he wrote a nasty letter on his law firm's letterhead that the kids were going to poke someone's eye out and he would sue the team if that happened. The lawyer for the Browns wrote the perfect reply for asininity like that: ”Dear XX, attached is a letter we received on November 19, 1974. I feel that you should be aware that some a*****e is signing your name to stupid letters. Very truly yours /s/”

Curry on...
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are some paranoid people out here. It's a wonder they can even open their front doors.

UpupaEpops
Community Member
2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just out of sheer curiosity since blacked-out cars are super uncommon where I am. Are they common in the US? And why do people like them? Edit because flippin' autocorrect

Pyla
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They are cool, tinting is helpful in hot weather and sometimes adds a level of privacy. I don't know if adds security or not, but it might. I have it on my Subaru, it was used and came that way. Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.

Load More Replies...
Id row
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Person willingly moves into an HOA and agrees to have their life micromanaged and even pay for the privilege every month. Then they're shocked that they get micromanaged. Why anyone buys in an HOA is just baffling.

Thanos'Fingers
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because over 50% of owner occupied housing in the US is covered by an HOA. And there already is not enough housing. People aren't generally signing on to these things because they want to.. they just want a house. I get it, I'm about ready to start stacking logs myself.

Load More Replies...
Morngaur of Gorgoroth
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Dear HOA Vice President, I quite agree. I think the black-tinted black SUV's are far too obvious in this day and age. I've raised this issue with the Agency on several occasions, so far without success (oh, the vicissitudes of bureaucracy). Well, at least we can all take comfort in the knowledge that Pioneer had a safe and productive journey. She was quite taken with our little cul-de-sac, in fact. By the way, I probably don't even have to mention this, but please ensure that no one outside of our immediate neighborhood is made aware of the presence of these vehicles on that date. Please alert the other homeowners of the need for security, as well. I thank you, and your country thanks you."

Jane Doe
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dear Homeowner, Please don't release any information identifying us. That would be prejudicial and rude. We don't like that. I'm sure you understand how awful it would be to have people make evil assumptions about us and say rotten things about us. Thanks for understanding.

Giraffy Window
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have an irrational unease involving cars who's stereos are loud enough you can hear their windshields humming before the vehicle is anywhere in sight. Know what I'd never do about that? Join an HOA community. I'd legit rather have moments of irrational unease or fear than ever willingly be part of another HOA lol

Full of Giggles
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I highly doubt several community were concerned about the black vehicles. I almost positive it was one person and they abused their HOA powers to let their concern be known.

Thanos'Fingers
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Which also means they saw the Reddit post themselves, read it, saw the email screenshot, and thought "hey that looks familiar..." That just makes this so much better 😂

Load More Replies...
P.L. Packer
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The 5% of the poll takers who don't believe the HOA is in the wrong are HOA board members elsewhere.

Sjmokla M
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I own a black SUV and it even has a white skull painted on the hood, would one of your friends like to borrow it for your next party.

Kelly Scott
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just tell the HOA that your house is haunted and all you did was call Ghost Hunters. That should calm everyone down.

️️Upvote faery️
Community Member
1 month ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Please let us know if there's anything YOU can do to avoid future" blah blah blah... Anything OP can do?!? What???

Tracy Bower
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If, for any reason, under any circumstance, I need to go to an HOA neighborhood to park my vehicle, I do hope that I am made aware in advance that it is an HOA neighborhood. I will do my best to blast the worst death metal I can, while exposing all of my moderately tattooed upper body that is decent, and wearing my heaviest body mod jewelry and scariest tee and such. So that I can jump out of my SUV and stick out my tongue with my fangs on and scream “Hail Satan!” at whomever dares to look out their windows with their nosy little selves. Why must what vehicle someone drives become an issue is beyond me… unless that vehicle is ridiculously loud or has like some horrible plastered on it, like a naked body or something. That’s the only reason I could possibly see why it would be offensive.

Owiella Freddie
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think you should start reporting Prius and other "smart" vehicle sightings in the neighborhood as suspicious because, quite frankly, they are a death trap and could cause you to glimpse something truly ugly.

María Hermida
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Somebody must have told Karen she could be sued for discrimination, and she also saw many people supported the party man and she could get in trouble. The "apology" sounds really forced and insincere.

Load More Replies...
SuperChicken
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, I didn't know the HOA "leaders" know how to tap dance and back paddle at the same time (based from that response they gave). Great talents, I say.🙄

Gale Christensen
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If blacked out SUV's caused such alarm, what TF are your neighbors doing that warrants such a response? D***s? Prostitution? Child trafficking? Theft? Murder? Cause if you ain't doing anything wrong, why would cop show SUV's freak you out?

Michael
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, I question why people move into HOA areas. Then has a bunch of friends who drive large, black SUVs. Sounds like a fun group. 🤣

marianne eliza
Community Member
2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How to fix HOA's: Every single homeowner in the HOA must serve on the board in rotation. No elections, no volunteers. The term of service should be at least 1 year. If someone cannot serve that particular year for a very good reason, they must serve the next, no exceptions.

tee-lena
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exceptions for the disabled are mandatory. We will not accept otherwise.

Load More Replies...
Christopher Crockett
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, I would do some research and see if the next rentals could be dinged up white panel vans. Put up cardboard signs by the sliding doors that say "knock for free candy". (insert evil Skeletor laugh here)

Scott Rackley
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Response: Sure, I'll give you a freebie this time. Next time there will be no redactions.

G A
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Tell her The Donald" was there? WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? There goes the neighbourhood....

Katiekat
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How could anyone possibly control what other people drive? There's no way that's enforceable.

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