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Honesty. Loyalty. Trust. These are the foundations of any loving and thriving relationship. Everything you’ve built together can come tumbling down when your partner starts being secretive and unfaithful to you. It can start with a bit of ‘harmless’ flirting, but it can soon grow into a full-blown affair.

Redditor u/Kindayoungbutok recently started a very candid thread on r/AskReddit, asking internet users about the “dead giveaways” that your partner is probably cheating on you. Scroll down to read the potential signs and learn what happened in these people’s relationships.

We reached out to the author of the viral thread, and they were happy to answer our questions about cheating and what keeps a relationship rock-solid. Read on for Bored Panda's interview with u/Kindayoungbutok.

#1

People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair If they cheated on someone to be with you, well.... don't be shocked, is all.

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Mad Dragon
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2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good advice. If you were ok that they cheated on someone to be with you, don’t be surprised when they cheat on you, too.

Mistiekim
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately, sometimes you don’t know that’s the case until it’s already happening in your relationship.

DeVante
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same way you get them is the same way they leave.

Enea
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, but then again I cheated on my former boyfriend, who I was in a very toxic relationship I couldn't get out of with the man who has now been my husband for 12 years. Cheating helped me get out of this co-dependent nightmare. Never once have I felt the urge to cheat on my wonderfulhusband. Things are not black and white and sometimes there are even reasons for cheating.

FantastiKitty
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hear you. Glad you got out of that awful situation.

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Jill Pulcifer
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is generally good advice, however it isn't the blanket rule people like to make it out to be. My partner and I were both married when we met each other, and have been faithfully together for 14 years. For clarity, nothing physical happened until we were out of said marriages.

Sergio Bicerra
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cheating to marry with another partner is very romantizised, like 'he sacrificed his current life for me' Stupid

karina carcamo
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Happened to me with an ex boyfriend. I didnt knew about this other girl for a while, until he told me he wasnt being totally honest bc there was this thing going on, but it wasnt serious so at first it wasnt important, but now we were going somewhere, he never tought he would feel about someone like he was doing for me, so the other thing was over. He even sent me a capture of a conversation with her telling her all of this.. she told him he was the worst After a while i was the other thing going on that wasnt serious and he tells me its over in a text... I know is stupid, no need for u to tell me.. i was vulnerable, insecure and immature. It felt wrong how he ended things with this other girl for me, but also made me feel important.. yeah i had issues at the time. It was really hard to get over this, i wasnt able to trust anybody. it was like a trauma. But after a lot of therapy, youtube videos, meditation and yoga i got back even better than before, stronger and confident.

OwenHasADHD
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I probably still will be shocked

Phoenix the Frog
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I thought this was basic knowledge. If they are willing to cheat one they will again

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    #2

    I had a cool/odd/crazy/s****y experience. I talk in my sleep and one day (three months before we were to get married) I had a nightmare about my ex cheating on me with a guy I worked with and I actually woke both of us up mumbling some s**t about it. When I told her what my dream was she got cagey, so I checked our cellphone bill and found out that she had been texting that very same guy non stop for weeks. I confronted her and she admitted to cheating on me with him. A dream set me free. What's also funny is that I don't recall having any kind of trust issues with him and her when we hung out, but something inside me apparently did.

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    Sonja
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes your dreams show you what you already know deep down but don't want to accept

    Mistiekim
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was dreaming about a cell phone ringing. At some point I realized there actually WAS a phone ringing - it was my boyfriend’s cell phone and he was too drunk to answer it from being out that night, so I did because it woke me up. Turned out to be some girl he hooked up with that night.

    Clown fish
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was dreaming about my kitchen cupboards for about a month and one night I got up and went looking I found 10 sim cards and 2 other phones turns out they were a serial cheater and had a lot of other women on the go either sexsting or meeting up. Safe to say they was out of my house before they could come up with cr#p reasons to why they had so many sim cards and phones

    Christina R
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, 10 simcards? I'm assuming 10 other women? How can anyone keep all that organized?

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    Mav Mav
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "a dream set me free"...should be the title of a bible :)

    Anne Jones
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your subconscious must have picked up the clues and then put them together.

    Leigh
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was having a hard time with my homework say a math problem in school I discovered that if I went to bed I would have dreams about it. The next day when I came back to the problems and I would have the solution in my head.

    LizzieBoredom
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When you have a nightmare that wakes all 3 of you up, also a sign.

    Sina
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Our minds pick up hints and clues that we don't really process on the spot. That's when sleeping kicks in, and the brain sorts all these experiences and memories from when we're conscious. It's actually pretty cool that our brain does that :)

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    #3

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair Your dog vomits another woman’s underwear.

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    Ellen Crawford
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dogs are amazing people ❤️

    Unknown
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a veterinary surgical technician, once did a foreign body removing bright red lacy women's underwear. Not unusual for dogs to eat underwear. Showed it to the owners when they came to pick up, and all the oxygen sucked out of the room when the wife said "Those aren't mine". 😶 All I said after that was, all right we'll see One of you in two weeks for the suture removal! And ran out of the room fast as possible 😬😬😬

    Zophra
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This could make a good short story! Thank you for sharing it.

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    Marla
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pup may be cheating on the family with another household. Still a very good pup

    Aria the Dog Lover
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Make sure to take the pup to the vet to make sure they're okay!

    Sheila Stamey
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When they buy new underwear and they are a guy, who is just a standard dad type guy, had been for years, hadn't bought it for themselves ever in the history of the marriage. And they pick something sort of sporty. In my case it was silk boxers with piano keys. ( He played piano as a hobby) I asked him what the heck were those for? So she could find middle C? ( His name was Craig) it was a ridiculous thing for a middle aged man to do especially since I would gladly have enjoyed picking those out with him. He wasn't doing without, lonely, or any of that other c**p. He liked chasing and catching women. I told him he was catch and release . Before he passed, he was married seven times, three of which he didn't bother divorcing before getting remarried. Thank goodness, I was from his earlier years.

    Nice Beast Ludo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think that is the biggest insult. You have someone there who loves you and is willing and wanting to do all these things with you and you go and do them with a stranger. And then he has the audacity to show them off in front of you like you won't notice??? Hell no!!

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    Reenzy Bennington
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a rom-com kinda thing that I'd watch. Dog spying on the husband and his affair with another woman, bribing said doggo with treats. Doggo gets fed up with being an accomplice and eats the lover's underwear only to "accidentally" throw it up right in front of the wife like "would you look at that, I wonder what that is" and the marriage is ruined, wife gets custody of the dog and they live happily ever after.

    Ed Brandon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Very specific. But given what dogs can be like, they could pick those up anywhere really.

    Signe Pfeiffer
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The more I get to know people, the more I like dogs ♥️

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    Bored Panda had a friendly chat with the author of the viral thread, u/Kindayoungbutok. We were very curious as to why the topic made such a big splash on Reddit, as well as what inspired the OP to ask the question in the first place.

    "I feel like most people are very drawn to this topic because, in one way or another, most have had an encounter with infidelity. Whether it be their partners, parents, or themselves," they said why affairs are a topic that gets so much attention.

    "I can’t recall why exactly I made this post, but contrary to what you might expect, I wasn’t considering if I were being cheated on or not. I was curious to see what answers other people's experiences led them to," they opened up to us.

    #4

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair When she tells you shes having dinner with her brother... while you're having dinner with her brother

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    OwenHasADHD
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, no, it’s obvious the brother is just moving so fast he’s in two places at once! She’s definitely not cheating on you!!

    Bella
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Something similar happened to me… he said he was visiting his parents. And while he was gone, his parents showed up at my front door 😆🤦🏻‍♀️

    Julia Mckinney
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband and I are reading this together so of course, I had to tell him I was having dinner with my brother (I only have sisters) and his response? "I thought you were going to say you were having dinner with MY brother" (who's been dead for 30 years). Yes, we both started cracking up.

    Fgeywyde
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    plot twist you were cheating with the brother

    Sharkfin6
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the start of a weird family reunion adult film lol

    Sinnsyk Jakte
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked with a THOT that had a brother she never mentioned. She quit. Now I work with her brother. Our entire crew was bamboozled.

    Gmaddles
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The question is then, so you tell her bro since it will obvious something's up and you two are buds? That'd be so weird because they can't really offer objective advice on women and you wouldn't listen to it anyway assuming it's subjective!

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    #5

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair His phone said 'no caller id' instead of 'No Caller ID

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    Reinaldo Fuentes
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Language-savvy people will spot this in an instant. I used to moderate a forum a bazillion years ago and the easiest way to spot sock-puppets was just to let them talk their talk. People are amazingly POOR at pretending to be someone else when it comes to their idiolect. So easy to spot.

    ---
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Smart enough to have an idea, not smart enough to succeed

    JL
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Better than saying "A. Fair"

    RafCo (he/him/ele)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For me it will have to be Scam Likely.

    CatFist
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dee di dee. Dee dee di dee dee dee... (To the tune of "Girl from Ipanema")

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    Louisa Johnson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well you ended up losing a moron by the sounds of it. I hope the pain was not to bad for you and you moved on to someone better xx

    CatFist
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Evil genius would be getting the capital letters right. What he did here is evil thinks-he's-far-cleverer-than-he-is.

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    whatever nevermind
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wouldn't it just be easier to not store the number and just memorise it, so you know when the other person is calling, but any on looker would not see any name come up?

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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Interesting - hadn't thought of that particular trick

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    #6

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair Oddly specific as this is how I knew- the girl he was cheating with was conspicuous in absence. He told me everything about his co-workers except for this one. I thought something was going on and sadly, I was right. For anyone who’s reading this and either has suspicions or has been cheated on, I need you to know it’s not a reflection on you. It’s not your fault, and you will be okay. <3

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    OwenHasADHD
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, it’s really not a reflection on you. It’s a reflection on the kind of person that cheater is.

    Bart
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to be away mon-fri for work on a research vessel. Always came home to a clean house, fresh made bed and towels, thought it was great. Got home once a good day earlier at 2am (we ran into port early due to bad weather) and decided to surprise my (now)ex only to find a extra pair of shoes in the hallway and the guy in my bed. Got to say that divorce was the best thing that ever happened to me. Turned my life around and much better now.

    Florence O'Grady
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Rese/arch vessel? What kind of work did you do and are you still in this field?

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    Display_Name
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because the other woman in my case is like a 4 in personality and looks. It has me wonder if I'm a 2 and everyone keeps lying to me.

    Wendy Herman
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, we may be strangers, but I'm still sure that's not the case. He cheated b/c of his own broken-ness & lack of self-esteem (acquired long before he ever met you & disguised by charm or other more positive traits). She likely was not his 1st affair, but one of a string of people with whom he was unfaithful, each being less desirable than the last. People can only ignore their conscience (those who have one) for so long, but the unacknowledged guilt just festers. Eventually, their own guilt becomes their undoing. He chose a sub-par human b/c he's one, Too. Deep down, he realized that he deserved no better than someone like himself, and chose accordingly. He certainly never deserved you. Be Kind to yourself, surround yourself w/ people who care, and focus on healing & personal growth. This painful emotional wound will heal with time. Then, the rest of your life will be better than it would have been if you'd remained tied to someone so untrustworthy. Wishing you only blessings. 💙

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    Louisa Johnson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This should be number one as OP has gave comforting advice and kindness to others when bitterness and anger towards trusting other people could have manifested from OPs experience instead. This is someone with a good soul.

    funkybluegirl
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really appreciate the last paragraph. It's weird to feel shame and embarrassment for something that you didn't have anything to do with, except that the consequences/aftermath affect your life. 🫤

    Nice Beast Ludo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a definite red flag. Or if he keeps talking about a specific co-worker or acquaintance constantly and then suddenly stops because he likes them and wants to bring them up all the time but then actually gets with them and can't bring them up anymore. So slick a*****e.

    Nitka Tsar
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The other way is suspicious too. When your partner talks too much (bad) about some person.

    Penny Kemper
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definitely no a reflection one you. He's an a**shat.

    Justin Rogers
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some responsibility needs to be taken for choosing a relationship with the cheating pos. I have never cheated on anyone because I know how that feels. To thine own self be true, if you have an urge then do the right thing and talk about it or leave, not that hard to be decent about honest

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    Meanwhile, we were interested to get the redditor's opinion on why people cheat and their take on what the secret to a solid and happy romantic relationship is.

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    "I don’t think there’s a clear-cut answer to why people cheat, but I think a lack of communication is a big factor at play," u/Kindayoungbutok said.

    "I believe communication and a real sense of trust are key to a healthy and long-lasting relationship. For me personally as well, I think some personal space could do couples some good. I see people engulf each other in themselves and make their lives synonymous. I don’t think that’s healthy. I think that is a recipe for resentment."

    #7

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair When they accuse you of accusing them of cheating - and that has nothing to do with the conversation. At all.

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    OwenHasADHD
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Isn’t that called projecting? I could be wrong though

    Katie Lutesinger
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, that's exactly what it's called. When someone's REALLY insecure or guilty about something so they accuse someone else.

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    Chewie Baron
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can you pass me that mop please? HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF CHEATING!!!!! I just want the mop.

    Display_Name
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mine was always accusing me of cheating. It cost me some friendships.

    Sergio Bicerra
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's disgusting. I get cheating on someone, but why also throw rubbish to them? Hope you have new better friends.

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    Simple Yaki
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't accuse my partner cheating, just disappointed because he contacting his ex crush kinda flirting to the point he ask a video of his ex crush doing a dirty things and he enjoys it. He do it multiple times even after he said he won't contact his ex crush anymore. Every time we discussed about this he always said that I am accuse him cheating, even I already said I'm not and I'm just disappointed to it.

    Cynical, Burnt And Jaded
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Rule #2 right after that once a cheater always...rule

    Carlos
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is saying in Spanish, "El ladron juzga por su propia condicion" meaning, "The thieve judges other based on his own condition", which applies very well here..okay it rhymes in Spanish

    Simple Yaki
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    Howl's sleeping castle
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My ex did this and the whole story was so far fetched that I started laughing.

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    #8

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair When my partner was cheating, he was really oversensitive to any implication that I didn't trust him. I'd text something like 'what are you doing?' and he'd get all defensive when it was really just a straight-up question on my part.

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    OwenHasADHD
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah…I don’t support those BS “trust tests” that people do sometimes, but just a simple question should not be met with defensiveness and hostility.

    Gin. No tonic
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It depends on who's asking. I have a super controlling family member. Whenever they're asking "what are you doing?", "where are you?", "what's up?", I get so defensive and I never what to answer. Not that I'm doing something bad, but whatever I'm doing, might be turned against me later on.

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    A girl
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think I'm good. Last "where are you text" got answered "I'm poo##$#". No secrets here.

    Penny Kemper
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Liar also give too much info. Like over explain would they normally wouldn't

    Happy Jade
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A thief has a guilty conscience

    Mav Mav
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    straight up, that's an unpretty violent photo

    Katie Lutesinger
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "For god's sakes, Jerry, I asked a simple question - there's no need to become Woody Allen!"

    Howl's sleeping castle
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I asked my ex for his phone as mine suddenly stopped working and I wanted to make an important call. He started screaming, talking s**t like how I don't trust him. I didn't say anything then. For next few days, paid attention to his hands whenever he unlocked his phone. Figured the code. Got a chance to unlock it and there it was. The texts and pictures.

    Clown fish
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people who have been abuse do this

    Tristan J
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As someone who sometimes gets defensive when I have not done anything wrong, I can attest that years of a domineering partner can result in innocent people having this reaction too.

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    #9

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair Your gut. Always always always trust your gut.

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    Stardust she/her
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My gut feeling never works for me so if I trusted it in this situation, I’d end up falsely blaming any significant other.

    Vanessa Panerosa
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then your gut is telling you to go to therapy. ❤️

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    OwenHasADHD
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trusting your gut feeling is a roll of the dice for me. Sometimes correct, sometimes couldn’t be more wrong. I’m probably not gonna trust it in an actual relationship.

    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't automatically trust my gut, but I consult it frequently.

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    Luna
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This needs to be higher.

    Full Name
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think I would rephrase this to "Never ignore your gut." I find that my gut instincts tell me that *something* is going on, but it is rarely specific enough to know exactly *what* is going on.

    Mike Crow
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trust your gut to start looking closer, don’t automatically accuse.

    CalmAndCollected
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That same gut that made me sh** my pants last week... Yeah no thanks

    Amy E
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's your gut, but then there is also the disapproval and disbelief of both your families. Then there is also, shouldn't our love and commitment get us through this? Then the fear of your whole life crashing down around you... I kicked him out and found parts of myself I didn't know were still here...

    Elizabeth Elliot
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, 'cos that worked so well for Othello..

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    There are four main reasons why people are unfaithful to their partners, according to Lucia F. O'Sullivan Ph.D. The first is sexual dissatisfaction: the person might want more variety or more frequent love-making. That forces them to look for alternatives to their significant other.

    Something else that can lead to infidelity is emotional dissatisfaction. For instance, someone starts seeing their partner in a different, less positive light. Meanwhile, they might be putting their trust in someone else—a colleague, friend, or a stranger, to whom they’re opening up and sharing private information with.

    Two other common reasons why people are unfaithful include feeling neglected by their partner and angry at their SO, hoping to ‘punish’ them by breaking their heart.

    #10

    My ex used to get so angry if I walked in the door and went to pee right away. I drive an hour home from work due to traffic. Having to pee is not abnormal. He made it a thing. The bathroom was right inside the door, and he would be at the other end of the house. Apparently going into the bathroom before seeing him was equivalent to me washing off the scent of my lover. Every time he accused me of anything, looking back, that’s exactly what he was guilty of.

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    Wendy Herman
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Classic Projection. I would often get screamed at for taking too long at the grocery store, on nights when he had no plans & was available to "babysit" his own kids. Other nights, he went to martial arts classes (2-3x/wk). Each class ended at 8pm, but he often didn't come home till after midnight. He was "hanging w/ the dudes" who were at least a decade younger than he was, unmarried & fancy-free. His Dad has passed away at only 42, so it may have been early-onset midlife crisis? I was in such deep denial, b/c we had 2 little kids, and I had no family I could turn to for any support, even just emotional. The divorce turned out to be the Best thing, even as gut-wrenching as it was. Hubby #2 turned out to be my reward, and we've now been married 20+ yrs. I had to get over "kicked puppy syndrome" 1st, tho, before I could open my heart again. Choose the sweet guy, ladies. There's really no such thing as "too nice". We deserve nice, not abuse of any kind.

    Zophra
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you for writing this out. This is good and I'm glad all is better for you!

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    Display_Name
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had sex with someone and that caused my cycle to start. What my ex thought.

    N Miller
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Here's a funny thing - you know the Golden Rule (the one about treating others how you would want to be treated, not "whoever has the gold makes the rules"). There's a corresponding rule - people recognise in others the behaviour they are trying to hide in themselves. (Also known as "takes one to know one")

    Jay Son
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't become a night nurse in that case, or he'd go nuts. My wife's a night nurse, and hitting the shower is often the first thing she does when she comes home. Usually a sign that.. err... stuff happened 🤢

    JoJoB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm pretty sure you'd take care of that before you left his place.

    xolitaire
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup, that's classic for "Damn, I did it so chances are she does it too".

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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lordy - I have to pee immediately after a long-drive. My partner knows this, and he waits for me to finish before greeting me. My ex-boyfriend from years back would often accuse me of cheating. I worked freelance at home - I rarely left the house. I'm not entirely certain that he was cheating, but I know that he had narcissistic issues. The accusations were a method of control.

    PandaPops
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to do it after school. 1st thing I did was run upstairs and use the toilet. My mum became convinced i was brushing my teeth and washing my hands to hide the fact id been smoking. Nope. Just really needed to wee as soon as I got to the front door. I never did and never have smoked. Funny thing is 25years later and I still need a wee when entering my parents house lol

    Nice Beast Ludo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is SO WEIRD and controlling. Our woman pee doesn't have magical properties that erase man scent. If we are jumping in shower before saying hello then maybe be worried unless working at a restaurant or other gross job you need to wash the scent off.

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    #11

    If they ask you to open up the relationship, they're either already cheating or they have someone in mind and want to do it without the guilt.

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    Josy
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well this is how an open relationship works.

    Rostit .
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    . An open relationship is something both people want. Not one of them

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    Amy E
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Caught my ex multiple times and offered an open relationship. He said no, but also kept cheating on me. Um, what?

    The Queen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They didn't want you sleeping with someone else.

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    Sergio Bicerra
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love hearing stories about open relationships when it backfires and the partner ends up having a blast.

    Hoax Buster
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not so. Open relationships have to start somewhere. If you want to open up and question their motives, set a rule of “no one we know or in our social circles” to be clear.

    CammyCat
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do love the stories where people do this and the one requesting ends up getting shafted by it and the other party finds someone better! Best karma EVER!

    xolitaire
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or they are actually interested in an open relationship and try to find out if you would be on board or not. It's really hard to talk about these things without triggering exactly this: the dreaded "OMG are you already cheating on me who are they!!!" reaction

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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not necessarily true. I have friends who mutually agreed to open their relationship, and having known them for almost half my life, there was no cheating going on before then. This was a discussion over the course of a few years. Neither did anything until it was mutually agreed. They are both very happy in their marriage.

    Justin Rogers
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The sheer ignorance of that statement is astounding

    MP
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the relationship doesn’t start off as open, it never ever works. Even if it starts as open it rarely ever works. People will get defensive but it’s true.

    Mim“the Swede”Sorensson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not universally true, really. I’ve seen a couple of examples that’s worked great. For about a decade, some of them. But I totally agree on the first part, to an extent; it seems a bit rare that a relationship can smoothly go from exclusive to open. If open wasn’t part of the original deal, is what I mean.

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    Cyndielouwhoo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There was a couple in our circle of friends who encountered something like this, apparently they discussed an open relationship, they ended up with one on her part anyway until he found out about it. Sure was awkward for all of us being at their house for someone's birthday party when he suddenly found out about his "open marriage" :/

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    #12

    Here’s a fun one courtesy of my dad and his second wife: when the tire tread pattern on the fresh snow in your driveway matches the uncommon tires on your brother-in-law’s new work vehicle. *Edit: got way more confused replies than I expected on this. My dad’s second wife (not my mother) was having an affair with my uncle (my dad’s sister’s husband, HIS brother-in-law) and my dad figured it out after coming home early from work one night and noticing a distinctive tire width and tread pattern in his driveway that matched my uncle’s work truck, who had no reason for being there that night.* *He went inside and asked her if had been there and she acted surprised and denied it. He then mentioned the tire marks and why he recognized them and the house of cards promptly crumbled.*

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    N Miller
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had to get the red string and push pins out to follow that tangled web of relationships.

    Nicola Koh
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    def thought at first op's siblings husband had hooked up with his stepmother-in-law

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    Key Lime
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Shovel your driveways folks.

    Sonja
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In general when you see something that shows someone was there while you were gone but they don't tell you and lie about it if asked. If it was a harmless visit, they'd just tell you. It might slip their mind but if you ask they'll definitely tell you without hesitation. If they make up excuses it can't be that harmless after all.

    Parmeisan
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Need to be a bit careful on stuff like this, though. What if someone just used your driveway to turn their car around? It happens from time to time.

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    Seabeast
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At first I read this as her having an affair with her own brother and thought "What?!!"

    Jessica Bertram
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    so. his sister's husband was banging his wife. there. fixed it.

    You Should Do Nothing with the Fence
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your dad is very, very observant. I would also say that maybe he was already unconsciously suspicious?

    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And now we know why Sherlock Holmes had no wife.

    Sharkfin6
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol that's a smart man right there. It's often the most innocuous things

    Joolee
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, who inspects tyre marks?

    Exotic Butters
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oddly that how my mom found out about my dad and her sister.

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    However, something else to consider is that the opportunity to cheat can actually lead to cheating! O’Sullivan notes that opportunity is “necessary but not sufficient” for infidelity to take place.

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    “We should not underestimate the power of opportunity, especially in situations in which we feel less responsible or unlikely to be held accountable. Being intoxicated, at a wild party, or far away from home (where you are feeling anonymous) can lead to infidelity,” she writes.

    #13

    When you finally get off of work early for once after working doubles and instead of txting your boyfriend that you’re on your way home you stop and get their favorite McDonald’s meal and iced coffee with your last $10 until payday as a sweet surprise I’m home/I love you gesture and you’re greeted in the hallway with them coming towards you with a shocked and angry look saying “you were trying to catch me doing something” as you’re standing there holding the food and drink in your hands like👁👁 👄 🍟🍔☕️ We were together 6 years before I got the guts to leave. It was only a couple weeks after that happened.

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    Spocks's Mom
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Aww. ☹️I hope you made them wear his iced coffee.

    Liz Downing
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “you were trying to catch me doing something” .... uh, I think I did catch you doing something.

    RafCo (he/him/ele)
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not sure why this bothers me so much. She did something really sweet and was treated with a kick to the guts. I'd love for somebody to do something nice for me like this (not McDonald's, but you know what, yes, even McDonald's). I may have been this lady a few times.

    Nice Beast Ludo
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's the worst. I'm sorry. What a D**K. The b***h was probably headed out the back door while he ambushed you

    HangryHangryHippo
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually, he was cheating on her with another man 😐

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    Spittnimage
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Makes me LOL he said you were trying to catch me with his woman on the side standing beside him. 🤣

    HangryHangryHippo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually, he was cheating on her with another man 😐

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    Clown fish
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah eat the food yourself and pack his bags

    Mav Mav
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wtf? you didn't leave IMMEDIATELY???

    Seabeast
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you click on the link at the bottom left hand corner, it explains why. She was clearly in an emotionally abusive relationship and beaten down by it.

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    #14

    When you find incriminating messages and the first thing she ask you is how far you went back into the message history. She proceeds to get mad at you for violating her trust by looking at her computer even though you asked her several times (calmly and patiently) to be honest about the situation because you felt like you were going crazy. When the divorce process starts and she decide to call you at work and tell you you can't prove anything but I let her know I took phone pics of the conversations. She flips out. When I move out and he (her ex high school bf) moves in right after. The month our divorce became final they get married 3 months after. They have a child shortly after that. Anyhow thank god it happened because while the feelings sucked and felt unsurvivable, I dodged a big a*s bullet and my current gf of several years now is wonderful and I really do feel like everything had to happen for me to end up where I ultimately needed to be.

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    Vicki Doggurl
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love how the third person turns into first person… mid story. :)

    crowspectre (he/they)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Second person, technically, as OP starts out using you and ends up using I

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    Carol Emory
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Uhm.if you had pics proving that she cheated on you, why did you have to move out? She should have been the one to hit the bricks.

    Sonja
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't get people like this one here. Why did she fight the divorce if her affair was willing to marry her and have kids? Why not just get it over with? I've seen it happening. And I never understood. Those people don't love their spouses anymore. They've fallen out of love a long time ago. They don't have an affair per se, they are already in the next relationship. Still they often fight the divorce tooth and nail and don't want to admit its over although they don't even really want it. My SIL was that way, and I even understood her. My brother was an AH and a drunk. Their marriage was loveless and everyone wondered why they wouldn't just divorce. Still she hirt herself by pretending to mend the marriage instead of admitting she'd already been in another relationship for a year. They eventually separated and had other partners but never divorced. I don't get it.

    JoJo Anisko
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My ex married her The. Day. Of. Our. Divorce.

    SuperChicken
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What an a$$-wipe! I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you're having a better life than your ex.

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    Ed Brandon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hmmm yes those are all signs, but are you SURE?

    JP Purves
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like the ex-high school boyfriend took the trash out for you.

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    #15

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair their “co-worker” sends a “goodnight babe. I love you” text in the middle of the night..

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    RagDollLali
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What?? Since when is texting a coworker "I love you" at 3 am anything other than platonic??? /s

    Ed Brandon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think if you need this much help to figure it out after that...

    The Original Bruno
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A friend of my wife did this to another woman from work who he hates. He had had to call her earlier in the evening, and, unusually, his wife therefore wasn't the most recent number of his phone.

    Miki
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hmm..Yea. That may raise a brow..

    Seabeast
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Could be butt dialing or an accidental wrong number.

    Cheating, according to Psychology Today, is a habit. If you’ve done it once, you’re more likely to do it again… and again, and again. It’s not a guarantee that someone will most definitely have an affair if they’ve had one or more before (aka “once a cheater, always a cheater”), but past actions can be used to at least model some basic behavior trends.

    People who are narcissistic, score low on agreeableness, and are interested in having multiple partners are more likely to be unfaithful. However, as O’Sullivan points out, “cheating is so widespread that a handful of personality traits or attitude profiles are not going to effectively capture why people cheat.”

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    #16

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair You catch them having sex with someone else. It even worse if they don't stop.

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    Lizz
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I suspect once when I was overworked and was sent to our bedroom to take a nap. Didn't date look through the keyhole ( bedroom was next to the living room ) I probably would've killed them both

    Andrej Kosi
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This really seems like an affair, maybe not even secret

    Rodney McKay
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What if they invite you to join them?

    Some guy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, that would make it all better. /s

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    #17

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair Name dropping. When they bring someone up over and over in even the most tangentially related situations. If they say it's an innocuous friendship or a collegue but their name keeps coming up all the time, chances are you're right to be concerned.

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    Aroace tiger (she/they/he)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or they just so happen to be with this person a lot due to being good friends... I talk about my friends a lot

    Rostit .
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nah you can tell the difference. It's not as casual. They almost light up when mentioning the person

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    M Calad
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, yes. Looong time ago when I started working for a company the boss (M, mid 40s, married with kids) was introducing me to the people, procedures, etc. 3-4 times he randomly mentioned this young female colleague in very unrelated situations. Let's say I said sth like: "I am lactose intolerant", he replied " X is too". I said "I did this training in this place", he said "X did too". I found it odd and suspicious, like if he was thinking of her all the time. I brushed it off but then a couple of weeks later I was told by my coworkers they were having an affair. He ended up divorcing and marrying this girl.

    ZenChickChristine
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was what clued me in to my ex-husband’s affair. He kept mentioning the particular person and then tried to deflect when I figured it out. My codependent behaviors were still pretty bad then, so it still took a few years for me to finally leave.

    Mistiekim
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If this was true, I guess I’m having an affair with Timothee Chalamet. I tend to bring him up quite a bit.

    parmadillo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Happy for you! My friend and I are having an affair with pizza.

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    Matt Hiemstra
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So this one directly contradicts Number 3. So if they always bring up their name or never bring up their name they are cheating on you with that person.

    Rachel
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It doesn't really contradict, there's a middle place between not talking about someone and talking about them all of the time.

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    Ba-Na-Na
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But what if they are venting about how stupid they are?

    Rahul Pawa
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, I remember her coming home from a social group always talking about this one guy in particular. A few months later the bomb got dropped on me. Who they bring up in conversation is who they spend time thinking about. If it's the same person over and over, well that indicates at least an emotional connection.

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    #18

    When you get a STD when you were previously clean.

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    Mistiekim
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “My boyfriend told me I got gonorrhea from sitting on a tractor in my bathing suit.” A Seinfeld classic

    The Original Bruno
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had two thoughts when I watched this episode: 1) OK, so who was the tractor sleeping with, and 2) Time for a John Deere letter.

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    Lantana Howell
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is not 100% true. A large portion of the population has the Herpes Simples1 and/or 2 virus and don't know because a lot of people don't have outbreaks. https://newsinhealth.nih.gov/2010/11/herpes-hiding#:~:text=Nationwide%2C%20about%201%20out%20of,transmit%20the%20virus%20to%20others.

    Sherri Mantooth Bagwell
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Retired urology nurse here. I used to help with STI support groups back in the late 90s. The stars back then were 1 in 4 people had HS 2, and 80% didn't know it. A lot of people contracted HS1 from aunties, grandma's, etc giving them kisses when they had a cold sore (HS1). You can also transfer both HS 1 & 2 to other parts of the body (somebody else's body). Before dentists used gloves all the time they would contract herpes from patients mouths- called Herpes Whitlow. Class is dismissed..

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    Sherri Mantooth Bagwell
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Retired urology nurse here. If I had a dime for every person who came in & said they got an STI from a toilet seat I'd be a very rich woman. Once, when one of our patients said that in front of one of our Drs he said, " Only way you got that off a toilet seat is if you sat on it while someone else was occupying it!" 😂

    Joolee
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh this happened to me. It actually was lice - so disgusting.

    Silke
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They accuse YOU of giving them an STD out of the blue. I called my doctor before the end of that day and she booked me in immediately for every possible test, including AIDs. He was out on his ear very shortly after and was genuinely shocked. Me: "Don't even". Haven't been on so much as a coffee date in the 10 years since.

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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, but. I'm not a doctor, but medicine fascinates me. There are a few STDs that have a latent period, sometimes for years. For example, syphilis,and HPV are two that come to mind.

    MP
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People with STDs aren’t dirty. Just have a communicable disease. Calling it “clean” is so last century.

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    #19

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair When your wife becomes pregnant and you had a vasectomy 10 years ago.

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    Shark Lady
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not unheard of for a vasectomy to fail, so maybe get it checked out with your doctor before pulling the plug on your relationship

    Raelene Christie
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's actually true it happen a few times when I was a nurse, it wrecks relationships, and the poor accused person never feels secure again. Always wait for DNA test results.

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    fair_weather_rose
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm pretty sure this was the plot of an episode of midsommer murders.

    Ed Brandon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unless it's the second coming! (of Christ, I mean, you filthy minded lot)

    Jovita A
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Vasectomies don't have a 100% success rate (though very close). Most people don't know that they should do periodical check-ups to make sure they still shooting blanks. Of course, there is a chance that she indeed cheated, but a paternity test should be in place before calling quits.

    Mr Red
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You need to ask for your money back!

    wyngerd
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Better one, when I had a vasectomy, then a year later my wife gets her tubes cut... Now divorced.

    Wendy Herman
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a scary world in which to be female, though. I know 2 young ladies who made the same choice b/c they Never want to be Forced to carry a Rapist's baby. Horrifically, that's Still a possibility in many places.

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    Sandy Kavanaugh
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This happened to a friend of mine-twice!

    Luna Katka
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some friends of mine had a baby 10 years after he'd had a vasectomy. She thought she was starting menopause. Nope, it was a baby.

    Vera Rios
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oomph! Though even after vasectomy there is still sperm to be released.

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    #20

    Changing passwords to devices after being okay with you having access to them. Lack of intimacy over long stretches of time. No longer wanting to sleep next to you at all, go on dates, or do anything a couple would usually do. And my biggest flag is finding things that you're damn sure aren't yours, but they try to pass the item off like it's always been yours. I'll never have 'solid' proof that I was cheated on, but my instincts were screaming it when our sex life went away, then he wanted to sleep on the couch every single night. Then he started changing his passwords as my paranoia kicked in. First fight happened at this point. Next came him keeping me out of photos on purpose that he would share on his social media accounts, just in case people thought we were dating, which we were. That was when I caught him talking to someone through PS4 and online, she thought he was single. Fight two happened then and I was in denial because he was gaslighting me so much. It escalated to him wanting to be gone every weekend 'to a buddy's house' and I was never allowed to come along and eventually I found makeup in my car after one of those Pal Weekends. I don't wear makeup unless it's a special occasion, usually, and when I do wear it, it's only around my eyes so I know this didn't belong to me as it was lip gloss. Final fight and we didn't stay together. To everyone out there, it usually starts small and gets bigger over time. Trust yourself to see the signs and leave.

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    Florence O'Grady
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trust your God given guts people.

    Mim“the Swede”Sorensson
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can I trust my gut even if they weren’t given to me by any religious deity but rather developed during the time I spent in my mother womb?

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    kaycee14
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why didn't he just break it off if he's moving out of her bed and disconnecting her from his life? What would be the point of staying together, for him?

    RafCo (he/him/ele)
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe they had kids? Or she paid most of the rent, or they lived in a rent controlled apartment. Idk, I'm sure there are many reasons people stay together longer than they should. Sometimes the romance dies, but the partnership remains. And as you get older, things like love and passion can start to feel like luxuries. Perhaps you're unhappy in your marriage, but it's a manageable level of unhappiness, and you find fulfillment in other aspects of your life because you want to be present for your kids on good and bad days too. Because even though you're lonely, the idea of spending nights away from your kids is horrifying. And if that means sleeping on a couch or in another bedroom for the next twelve years, it's worth it to you. Idk, just a random example.

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    RafCo (he/him/ele)
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I change my passwords every three months. I have a password manager for this purpose. The only password I actually know is the password to my password manager, and I rotate that one too. But I'm just a weirdo. That said, my wife has access to our password manager, so she can access our stuff (bank, insurance, etc.).

    Neuridivergent
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Finding your replacement before they leave. User and a*****e

    pudgiegreg
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My ex constantly talked to other women, exes and previous sexual partners. It made me so sad and uncomfortable and so many repeated conversations asking him to please cut off contact with all these women. He was always so defensive and wouldn't do it. He also never opened any social media when I was around, he was secretive about his snapshot and instagram and Facebook, and said he didn't look at it because there might he things that would bother me. Well if it would bother me, than maybe re evaluate? He liked his exes boudoir photos and told her how good she looked, and it was a huge fight. To this day he still doesn't see how he did anything wrong. We broke up because there was a huge fight where I caught him in a lie about another girl he carried on for a year. Remember, cheating doesn't start with actions, it starts with sneaky conversations.

    Shawna Burt
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When this happened in my last relationship it wasn't because I was cheating. I was trying to work out how to leave without potentially triggering him. He wound up bringing it all to a head by pulling a gun on his mom's neighbor, giving me a clear reason for a clean break, but up until then? I just wanted to keep things peaceful until I could leave.

    Shawna Burt
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And I put this under the wrong list item. No edit function.

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    #21

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair My ex would sleep with her phone under her pillow. I had an idea it was happening and would keep an eye on this guys MySpace. Then he posted one of the questionnaire things that were popular at the time, one of the questions was who did you last kiss? And his answer was my ex. MySpace Tom had my back. Edit: a lot of you seem to think that she might have been browsing the internet, this was a time before internet was available on your phone, there was nothing to do on a phone other than call and text. Most phones also didn’t screen locks with passwords or facial recognition, anyone could get on your phone so the best way to avoid this would be hide it. Or sleep with it under your pillow so if someone does try to get it, they wake you up.

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    Lizz
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had this happen to me only it was upside down on the coffee table. Got off work early and stopped by a "friend 's" house ( I knew my so was cheating with her) with the thought of catching him there.... I didn't see him but her phone screen starts lighting up every couple of minutes.... And it got awkward and I left. Turns out he was either in the bathroom or her bedroom the whole time....

    Zoe DiAnni
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah the olden days when a phone was a phone

    Kerry Borthwick
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sleep with my phone under my pillow because I don't wake to my alarm otherwise

    Mario Strada
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I keep my phone under my pillow because I listen to audiobooks.

    Little letitia
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was WAYYYYY before audio books my friend! Think early to mid 00's

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    Sindy Diaz
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    happened with my ex, he had her on her top eight as did i, then top two then #1 and me #2 i called him to ask him why and to change it, why didn't i take that and think. i was so innocent, i was 19.

    nooneimportant
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i read myspace and i understood this story. shhhh im not old

    Jenna Stough
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually I sleep with my phone under my pillow because I put it on do not disturb at night so only 3 people (mom,brother,oldest son) can get through and even then it only vibrates so I put it under my pillow to wake me if it vibrates.

    Shawna Burt
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or the phone is there as an alarm clock. Jeez.

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    #22

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair Phone keeps ringing but he won't answer it

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    Lisa H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Me, too. But the only actual calls I ever get are spam. Once in a great while it will be work, but they mostly text me.

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    Guido Pisano
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    well that's not necessary a sign of cheating. I hate phone calls, and if Iam doing something else is very probable that I will not answer.

    Colin
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never answer my phone. I hate talking on one. My BIL is a massive talker. He'll call and I'll text back what's going on. He'll call again and I'll text again.

    OwenHasADHD
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I only neglect to answer calls from obvious scam numbers. If someone I know is calling, I don’t see why I shouldn’t answer

    Tyke
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I'm in the middle of a conversation, or a task I need to get done, I ignore whoever is calling. I can always ring back. I hate the way some of my friends assume because you have a phone you have to be at it's every demand. I also have a child, and if I'm spending time with him, I rarely answer. He needs to know he's not fighting for attention with technology. I have friends I know if I answer that's an hour+ phone conversation. Sometimes I'm just enjoying me time. There are plenty of reasons why I personally don't answer.

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    Carol Emory
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On this note, my MIL had a suspicion that my Ex SIL was cheating on her husband because her phone would ring and she'd immediately go out in the garage so she could talk to the person sitting in the car. When my little BIL (husbands brother) confronted her, she admitting to having an affair with a man two states away...also explaining all her frequent trips. It backfired on her though. She started the divorce, got my BIL kicked out of his apartment and ran off to be with her lover only to have him say he had no intention of leaving his wife for her. Oopsie!

    Doug Parsons
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    my phone is for my convenience not the convenience of others - I seldom answer it and feel no need to instantly respond to texts or emails either, I respond when it is convenient for me

    der sebbl
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or i don't have my phone at me right now

    funkybluegirl
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like most of the other comments, I think that not answering phone calls is, not necessarily a sign of cheating. But, if your partner is acting shady about it (only not answering certain people), it probably is something. Especially if your gut feels something is wrong.

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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do this all. the. time. It's because I'm an introvert and sometimes I just don't want to talk on the phone.

    LynzCatastrophe
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do this because lots of phone numbers seem to start with 1-866...

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    #23

    When they suddenly start taking extra interest in their appearance and getting in shape by “going for walks” even up to 10 pm by the time they return and they don’t answer your worried calls because “they had music on with headphones”. And when you ask them why they didn’t answer it’s because “they didn’t hear the calls come in” despite you having the exact same phone and know that the incoming calls cut over the music.

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    ADDee
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That deserves extra points for stupidity!

    Saracynthiasylviasnout
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a friend who after being in a relationship for almost 10 years tell her bf that she was preparing for a marathon when she was cheating. But she only trained at night and had literally never even exercised before that.

    Jamie
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This! Years ago my middle-aged dad suddenly started dying his hair and working out and dressing better. We eventually learned he was cheating on my mom at the time.

    Bobijntje
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mine started walking during Covid. Normal 1-2 hour walks, but since last summer it started to be 5-6 hours. Came back and said with a hypocritical face "it was such a great walk". It turned out that went to a mutual acquaintance who was living 10 minutes away from our house.

    JoJoB
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And they trade in their car for a sportier one that the family doesn't fit in.

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    #24

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair When they randomly start arguments for no reason or just start being disrespectful out of the blue.

    Egg_Anxious , nebojsa_ki Report

    Lakota Wolf
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That could indicate a LOT of different things, not just cheating.

    Clown fish
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Work stress is making me a right d#ck head at the min. I keep trying to remember to walk away an not snap because I'm in a p#ssed off mood

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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nah - that's just being a jerk. There are lots of reasons - a bad day at work, depression, bipolar disorder.

    OwenHasADHD
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Possible anger issues and cheating

    Neuridivergent
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Want to end the relationship but not be the bad guy

    Mav Mav
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    again, very aggressive / violent photo

    Orshi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What is violent or aggressive about this?

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    #25

    If they accuse you of cheating constantly

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    Lisa H
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Projecting AND gaslighting at the same time. A twofer! Woohoo/s

    Kerry Borthwick
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omg u reminded me of my Sims when my Sims husband was caught woohooing with the maid lol

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    Anton Swanepoel
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had that happen to me twice. The first time I was simply too bewildered to respond - I mean, how do you prove a negative? Turns out she was the one cheating. With the second person, I knew as soon as I got accused of being a player (which I have never been) that it was time to get out. I made sure to confirm my suspicions, and left about a week later. It sucked, but I'm glad I didn't stick around to get messed about like I did the first time. Being constantly accused of cheating, when you haven't, is usually the manifestation of your accuser's own guilt.

    DrGirlfriend
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I did this to my husband because of abuse I suffered in prior relationships. Healing from being destroyed makes you think your never going to be everything to anyone.. I wasn't cheating, I just never felt good enough about myself to understand that he loves me. I stopped being like that after awhile and we have been married 11 years this year. Abuse messes up the brain sometimes you have to rewire it.

    Diego
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My ex accused me of cheating on him during the pandemic when we lived together and the only time we were apart was when he was out by himself. After telling me to stay home.

    Lisa H
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like he was a controlling a$$hole. Glad he's your ex.

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    #26

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair When my husband cheated, it was definitely the phone. He was hiding at night when he’d go to bed. Also, wouldn’t ever let me go to work related get togethers that the other spouses would attend.

    Pinkbuttercream85 , YuriArcursPeopleimages Report

    Lisa H
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Umm, "husband"? Not "ex-husband"? Sorry to sound clichéd, but once a cheater, always a cheater. Even if they physically stop cheating, they can't stop emotionally cheating and that is just as devastating.

    Quentin ingulfumble
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you know lots of people who really do love each other work on their relationship and get over this kind of thing? turns out people arent quite as one dimensional as you seem to think.

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    #27

    I guess I kinda allowed this to happen, but it still hurt just the same: It was a couple of months after my Grandpa passed, and I hadn't given her the D at all in that time. Funny thing grief.....it f***s up so many things in the body.......anyway, in my grief ridden stupor, I trusted her when she said she was going for a drive with a friend to cut loose a bit. I was okay with it because i wanted her to have a good time and not be stuck in the house with my depressed a*s. She got home in a good mood and I didn't think anything of it till she went to wash *just* her underwear. I checked her phone that night after she fell asleep, and apparently, she had been talking to this guy for about a month. They had done the deed, and she wanted to make me out as the bad guy when I confronted her about it, with the evidence from her phone, saying I "pushed her to it by not having sex with her." I kicked her out in a hury, and don't really remember much except she was the one yelling and screaming. I was pretty much just numb, and I don't think I really proceeded it till almost 2 weeks later.

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    Melancholic_ing
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It *definitely* was not your fault.

    Lakota Wolf
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP didn't "allow" this to happen. OP was honestly grieving the loss of their grandfather, and grief CAN affect libido. If OP's GF was so shallow that a lack of boning was all it took for her to "justify" cheating, she's not a human being worth having a relationship with... unless it's just a relationship of casual boning.

    Xenia Harley
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mature people CAN go without sex for quite a while! Not your fault!

    Tuna Beach
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mature people don't say "given her the D"...

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    Parmeisan
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was NOT your fault, you do not owe your partner sex if you are not in the mood for it. Yes, lack of sex for extended periods can be tough on a relationship but... two months? If she couldn't handle that, that's on HER.

    Florence O'Grady
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Better he found out before he married her.

    Mari
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so sad after the loss of his granddad

    Raelene Christie
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh you poor soul I hope you're doing well and are in a much better place.

    Mav Mav
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wow, your life moves fast

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    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so sorry. I completely understand how a death in the family can send you down into a spiral. Things that you enjoyed in the past are no longer of interest - I see you.

    Joolee
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Given her the "D"? "Done the deed"?

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    #28

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair You’re at a party and the lead singer of a band starts singing a song about your girlfriend entitled “Scotty Doesn’t Know”

    cajunfid , RODNAE Productions Report

    Conan
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    so I guess we are just going to put stupid s**t from movies on this list, this is from the movie Euro trip

    Raelene Christie
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok it's from a movie but it's still relevant and quite a break from the awful posts. My ex beat me up every time he cheated which was often, and gaslighted me for years. I appreciated the break in tension thanks.

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    Lisa H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    🎵🎶🎼Scotty doesn't knowww/that Fiona and me/do it in my vaaan every Sunday🎶🎵(keep it going, Pandas!)

    Abi
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    she tells him she's in church but she doesnt go still she's on her knees and scotty doesn't know

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    #29

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair They admit to you they still have feelings for a “friend” they had romantic history with and continue to spend alone time with and get upset that you call them an ex 💀 Reality can be whatever they want.

    Voltundra , simbiothy Report

    LizzieBoredom
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some of these are not really signs, they're more like roadblocks with flashing lights and police tape warning you there's a sheer cliff drop-off 6 feet ahead.

    OwenHasADHD
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Huh???? If my partner is suddenly in a relationship with someone else, I’m obviously going to call them an ex. Makes no sense they would get mad

    N Miller
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They get mad because denial is a thing. If they are an ex, this suggests the romantic history is in the past. If they are cheating, the past is very much present and the romantic history is decidedly current.

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    Shane G
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an ex I stayed friends with for years and we really were just friends. Unfortunately when her now husband proposed one of the conditions of their marriage was that she couldn't hang out with me anymore. Actually, I think he eventually drove all of her male friends out of her life, even the gay one who never had interest in her that way.

    #30

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair An interesting one I haven't seen in the comments yet: They start doing more, more small gifts, more help around the house, and simply just more involved in the relationship. This isn't always the reason why there was a sudden shift, but this can be an easily missed sign. The shift can happen because they feel guilty and are trying to make it up to you, it could be them trying to manipulate you into never even considering the idea of them cheating because they're so considerate, or maybe it's them trying to make it up to you without telling you. This isn't a sign of cheating on its own though, it's just a sign that maybe you need to pay more attention and be alert to the relationship. The reasoning for paying more attention is: maybe they're struggling with depression or stress, or they've realized they've been a bit absent, or maybe you have, or any other number of reasons; Which is why it's a sign To be alert and figure out why there's a shift.

    TheFrostyrune , Kim Stiver Report

    Lizz
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Told him I wanted a divorce and all of a sudden he's doing all of the above.... I still want a divorce.

    pov
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    please divorce him!!! you are so much better than he is love ❤️

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    Honey Bee
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kind of like love-bombing. Combo of guilt, pressure to cover up, and gaslight.

    Powerful Katrinka
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I knew something was up when my ex began showering me with presents that had obviously been bought with someone else in mind. He came back from a "conference" in Texas with an enormous box of size 6 rodeo outfits... pearl snaps, fancy braiding and rhinestones on the seams, mostly an iridescent turquoise and hot pink. At the time, I was a size 8 and had never even gone to a rodeo.

    Julia Mckinney
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm helping about the house more because my husband is living at home again. I realized how lazy I'd gotten over the last 10 years when my husband could only come home on the weekends (job was 100 miles away).

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    #31

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair When you catch them admitting it over a security camera to their ex while you're out of state...

    RiggerZilver , Erik Mclean Report

    kaycee14
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Ring camera records audio and video when something triggers the motion sensor, and sends me an alert. So less stalker, more probably partner forgot about the camera.

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    #32

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair When they suddenly stop making time for you

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    #33

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair when you come home and someone has eaten your jam

    B-dubs_ , Cats Coming Report

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone else think those slices of bread are shaped like d**ks? Or is it just me?

    kate h
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have you been dating very badly circumcised men?? I thought mushrooms.

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    Mari
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This way Shakira found out Pique was cheating on her

    恵実子 幸持
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Rookie mistake! F*ck all you want in their house. But eating their jam? The audacity!

    Mav Mav
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    are you a bear by any chance?

    Busy Panda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ... and it couldn't be your significant other because he was on a strict diet for his job. Also couldn't be your children because you know they don't like that jam and they've been with you that weekend...

    A Bi-Cycle
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought that bread was something else for a second…

    Spocks's Mom
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A mushroom? Toadstool??? What else could you have thought that bread was??🤔

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    Sinnsyk Jakte
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How...is this...the thing...that makes someone...think they're being cheated on? Three ideas: 1. It's a dreadful euphemism; 2. They watched an episode of 'House, M.D'; 3. They highly suspect someone they know also likes jam and it is astronomically impossible that their partner in any way enjoys jam.

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    #34

    They tell you in a moment of anger, then try to pull it back.

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    #35

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair These days, watch their phone behaviour, for starters. Do they hide the screen when you walk behind them? Have they added a password or changed the password? (This may be innocent but could be suspicious.) Are they texting into the wee hours of the night while neglecting you? Have they disabled the little notifications that pop up without having to unlock the phone? Some of these might not be a problem on their own, but you'll often notice other behaviours at the same time, like they ignore and neglect you more, find reasons to be in another room, take their phone to the bathroom all the time, or go for lots of breaks away from you. You're on the lookout for secretive behaviours, neglect, and distance.

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    Woundwort42
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Disabling the notifications is an important security measure, they can, and have been, used to hack peoples bank accounts when a thief has obtained both a bank card and a phone (often theft from a gym locker). They set up internet banking on a new device and the security code shows up on the phone without needing to be unlocked

    TankGirl
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another reason not to go to the gym ✅ lol

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    Conan
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I take my phone into the bathroom all the time but not because I am cheating that's usually when I am on twitter while dropping a duce

    Erin Ward
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm amazed by how many people are paying so much attention to their SO phone. My husband and I share everything and know all each others passwords but I don't touch his phone

    xolitaire
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well then call me a serial cheater because no one gets to touch my phone. I don't even have anything to hide, but it's private, THE END.

    Sinnsyk Jakte
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly, I always poop with my phone. I don't have any passwords I would not tell him (and he probably knows), and I've had a weird sleep cycle since I've been out of work for three months now. I get up just as he goes to sleep. I en't doing anything except doomscrolling.

    Shawna Burt
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Um, no. This is basic privacy, please respect it.

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    #36

    - You call her cell Saturday night, a guy answers tell you he is your wife's boyfriend. - Your spouse has had emergency meetings about work every Saturday night for the past 15 weeks. Can't explain why an Amazon order puller has so many late night emergency work meetings. - You found the video she made on r/gonewild. Her, her best friend and her best friend's husband in a three-way...in the master bedroom of the apartment you just moved into - She has a lot of male cousins who visit. Or men she calls her cousins

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    Mav Mav
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sounds like you stayed for the entertainment

    ADDee
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That’s about 14 weeks too late to the party.

    Joseph Dougherty
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow thats alot to happen to one person, sorry

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    #37

    when their roommates ask to meet with you privately, and tell you that your gf was having someone over in their room with the music on loud the same thing she'd do when we'd get busy at her place edit: first time ever, RIP my inbox ... more context: this was in 2009, we were almost 4 years into our relationship, I was getting ready to defend my thesis for my Master's and she was applying to PhD programs. I was willing to move with her wherever she went, and even had my mom help me find a nice white gold ring with a sapphire (the ex-g/f hated diamonds) as an engagement ring.

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    Florence O'Grady
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope you thanked that roommate. I would hate to get married and find out later that my "friends" knew they were cheating on me and still let me get married.

    #38

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair When they become cagey about things they're normally open about. Have known a couple people who did this. Very open, liked to talk about their entire day, would answer near any question. Then suddenly they'd be out on a night with their friend/s and the details of the night could be summed up in a couple words or there'd be odd gaps in the story while they remember and try to sort through it all.

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    Lisa H
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In other words, can't keep their own story straight.

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    #39

    It's happened to me a few times now, and invariably there is a seismic shift in the relationship. I can remember pinpointing the day something changed, and suddenly you aren't being texted first, they're busy and can't hang out as much, and sex almost always stops or becomes very infrequent. The partner seems colder, further away, and less enthusiastic. It's hard to describe, but you can feel something is off. At least, it's always been that way, in my opinion. What's worse is the times when you confront them about the change in the dynamic, and they tell you nothing's wrong, or nothing's changed, and you feel like you're going crazy because you know something off, but you don't want to push it and be needy or clingy. And you suffer silently until you push it or the truth inevitably comes out.

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve been married 21 years. If your relationship is long term, there will be peaks and valleys of desire. Neither my husband nor I have ever even thought of cheating, but there have been periods when we just weren’t in the mood, followed by periods when we couldn’t keep our hands off each other. You can’t live with someone 24/7/365 and have every second be like a fairy tale. People aren’t perfect, and life isn’t perfect like the movies. You’re in a real life relationship with a real person who, if they’re old enough, comes into it with emotional baggage of their own—-just like you.There’s also the phenomenon of still deeply loving someone when you hate their guts—-today. In other words, you’re having a disagreement, or you’re in a mood where everything irritates you, or something that will pass, and your love will still be there when it does. Of course, if this happens in a relatively new relationship where you should still be in the honeymoon phase, then listen to your Spidey sense.

    KimTx ‍️
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is some true wisdom here! Married 35 years (in June 2023) and there are seasons of "I'm not sure we'll make it" followed by "I am so glad he's mine." Relationships take work, idleness, understanding, patience, care, etc.

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    Jay Son
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It can indeed be the little things that make you realize something is off. Especially if you pay attention of the people around you. It happened twice to me, and sadly I was correct both times. Bit of advice: do try to talk about it, don't let it linger around or it'll start gnawing in you.

    Mistiekim
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The feeling of being gaslit is the most horrible thing in the world. My ex did that to me for years and now I have no self confidence and trusting anyone is the hardest thing in the world to do.

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    #40

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair They’re getting texts from Pizza Hut

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    Mav Mav
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your bae's cheating on you with a pizza? I'm sorry.

    Isaac Nemo
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wait, but I get texts from Pizza Hut regularly, it's their marketing c**p. I'm just fat, I swear!

    Clown fish
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dam I'm with domino's then they send me about 12 texts or emails a week

    freakingbee
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    same! i get like 2 emails a day from them and i unsubscribed and i still get a bunch

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    Jay Son
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Missed chance for them to use Nick's Pizza...

    Kim
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ha! I came to the comment section just to say the same thing 😆

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    #41

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair Glued to their phone and texting a lot more. Also a lot more cancelled plans and excuses for not seeing each other.

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    #42

    I've never been cheated on to my knowledge but I suspected a person I dated recently of cheating. I'm not sure if it was true or my insecurities but the reasoning was. 1. Hung out with former FWB and didn't text me back the entire day while she did 2. Had to ask for info, she said she wouldn't want to know if situations were flipped 3. After I'd accused her of cheating we hooked up and she kept hiding her face and didn't want to kiss. 4. Refusal to show proof on my terms and insisted I needed to trust her blindly 5. Giggled/laughed when I asked if they'd hooked up on this past trip All these were enough for me to have enough doubt that I was or would be cheated on. Either I'm not ready or I got out early enough to avoid real hurt

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    #43

    So, this happened a very long time ago. I had recently filed for divorce from my ex husband and I began to date another guy. I was very naïve about dating since I hadn't dated anyone in 20 years. This guy showered me with roses, dinners, jewelry and he liked to drink. I didn't understand anything about binge drinking. As time went on I started to see that it was going to be a problem. When he drank, he became a different person and one day he came home with a new cellphone for me and he help me set everything up. I didn't know at the time, he bought it so he could keep tabs on me. One day I was in the shower getting ready for work and he came to my house and stormed in the bathroom and ripped the shower curtain back while I was bathing and he started yelling at me about not answering the cell phone. Then he started accusing me of cheating with my male coworkers. He terrorized me one night, drunk and out of his mind with a gun. That was it. I did a midnight move and I was gone. I found out that he started cheating on me when he felt he couldn't control me anymore. I should have known better.

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    Mav Mav
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    lucky you lived, lady. omfg!

    Potato Panda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is absolutely terrifying. I'm so sorry.

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    #44

    They answer "It wasn't me!" No matter what evidence there is. I mean, picture this: They were both butt naked, banging on the bathroom floor. And they try to gaslight you, and say it wasn't them. You're listening to their story, it makes no sense at all.

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    Mav Mav
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    alright shaggy, come clean

    M. Priestly
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How could you forget you had given them an extra key?

    #45

    When your driving by a mutual acquaintance house, see her car, go to the front door and see her and mutual acquaintance half naked making out on the couch through the front window. You knock on the door and without looking to see who it was, acquaintance flips you off and waves you away. You, out of anger, punch and break acquaintance's front window. Since acquaintance doesn't know who it is he grabs a bat and runs out the door...but you are already at your car driving away. You drive a very recognizable car so he knows and calls the cops. You get lucky and the female cop feels very bad for you and let's you off with a warning because you offer to pay for the window. Turns out it's a 110 year old house and the window is $700. So now your out $700 and a girl friend of 4 years.

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    #46

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair When they suddenly start keeping their phone to themselves when previously you had an open phone policy.

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    #47

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair They stop being intimate with you and also guarding and sleeping with their phone under the pillow

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    Shark Lady
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All these people hiding phones under their pillows are very fortunate that they haven't set their bed on fire.

    ADDee
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The lesson here: don’t get Samsung Note 7 if you are planning to cheat.

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    #48

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair They're "working late" but their paychecks aren't changing.

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    Helen Bennett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly this doesn't necessarily mean any bad boundaries other than with your work time.

    Denise Melek
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can be repaid in free days.

    hungryghost
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup, mine paid overtime with extra day off

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    #49

    When your stomach feels distance and disconnect it’s time to dig and hope your gut instinct was wrong this time. Mine wasn’t and found out all I needed to know to end my marriage.

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    Mav Mav
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    my stomach feels like that after curry, bro

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    #50

    You come home exhausted from work and your partner accuses you of cheating.

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    Display_Name
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got accused of having sex while I was working at a daycare. WTF am I having sex with?!

    #51

    People Share 30 Signs That Scream Someone Is Having A Secret Affair They have a burner phone or burner social media account that either you don't know about or they won't friend you on

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    Clown fish
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or 19 my ex with the lots of sim cards and phones

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    #52

    You’re no longer a priority

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    Lisa H
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not always a sign of cheating, but definitely a giant red flag regardless.

    #53

    Phone suddenly facedown during meals, tv time, etc. I know some people do this out of politeness, but if they suddenly start doing it when they never did before, that’s a pretty big giveaway they don’t want you to see notifications.

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    Thomas
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always put my phone down when I'm with someone and don't want to be disturbed by the outside world, unless it's urgent which would mean a phone call

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    #54

    When they get real antsy… like they’re afraid you know something

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    #55

    That smell. You know the one I mean, too.

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    kate h
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That smell for me was "freshly showered". Said he stayed at a friend's because he had been drinking and didn't want to drive. Got home at 6am smelling fresh as a daisy.

    Mav Mav
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    eau de toilette, I'd say

    Clown fish
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ewwww I think they are going for after sex smell but really that's just f#cking nasty

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    #56

    When your wife's boyfriend offers to put you up at a hotel.

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    #57

    They’re on their phone all the time and they take great pains in keeping you from it. If you knew their password and they’ve changed it and won’t tell you. Also they’ll start complaining that you don’t try them and they have no privacy. Even if this never bothered them in the past.

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    #58

    When your SO micromanages your schedule

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    #59

    If your wife is playing "Second Life" and flirting with other guys on that platform.

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    Mav Mav
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    she likely looking for a second life

    Jay Son
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does that still exist? :o

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    #60

    Has two phones that belong to them under his or her expense which both have service. Another is one makes a lot of money but most of it disappears in a week end while partner pays all bills thus why always short on money

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    #61

    She's having migraines all the time and John Redcorn, a spiritual healer, has not been able to correct them with 3 to 5 weekly sessions over 12 years.

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    Conan
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    so we are just going to add dumb s**t from King of the hill on this list?

    wyngerd
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ask for a refund. (money not wife)