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Lyudmila And Tamara, 65, Twin Sisters, Dentists

Final score:

350points

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Hanneke Legerstee 5 years ago

wow, they look 10 years younger!

114points

Svitlana, 37, University Teacher

Final score:

350points

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Matt Richardson 5 years ago

Love the way they brought out her eyes in the after pic.

79points

Mairita, 36, Operator

Final score:

328points

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Gwinevere von Ludwig Premium 5 years ago

It annoys me when the "transformation" = "get rid of the glasses" as part of it. Lots of people look really good in glasses IMHO

6points

Nikolay, 31, Freelance Designer

Final score:

308points

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Monday 5 years ago (edited)

Okay wow, this guy looks good with the new haircut. EDIT: He did look good before too though

92points

Jolanta, 39, Postal Operator

Final score:

304points

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Pumbaa 5 years ago

wow!

43points

Brigita, 36, Housewife

Final score:

297points

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Monday 5 years ago

New look shaved a good 5 years off her apparent age. Nicely done.

66points

Alina, 48, Operator

Final score:

294points

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Imagine That 5 years ago

Looks like mother & daughter photos !! 20 year difference.

104points

Yuliya, 41, Accountant

Final score:

285points

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Tiari 5 years ago (edited)

Concerning her clothes I prefer the before. Looks really cool.

154points

#10

Ilona, 47, School Teacher

Final score:

284points

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Luis Milian 5 years ago

she is rocking those leather pants! go Ms. Ilona!

95points

#11

Elvira, 36, Housewife

Final score:

268points

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Asia 5 years ago

I love how natural she looks after the change. Beautiful!

63points

#12

Inga, 50, Doctor

Final score:

261points

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Anne 5 years ago

the new outfit shows she has an amazing shape

12points

#13

Galina, 68, Nuclear Physicist

Final score:

257points

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Wanda Queen 5 years ago

Well, thank god she's pretty and stylish now. I mean, before she was just a nuclear physicist...

209points

#14

Natalia, 41, Housewife

Final score:

256points

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Elizabeth Etzel Premium 5 years ago

She lost 20 years!

72points

#15

Anna, 34, Manager

Final score:

248points

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Rhon 5 years ago

A beautiful woman!

42points

#16

Daria, 35, Marketing Director

Final score:

233points

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ADHORTATOR 5 years ago

from good to better

89points

#17

Elena, 52, Accountant

Final score:

225points

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Hanneke Legerstee 5 years ago

some people really should have fired their hairdressers sooner!

83points

#18

Irina, 42, Interior Designer

Final score:

222points

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TheReader19 5 years ago

Love the new look, and I think it suits her business goals.

53points

#19

Zhanar, 40, Event Agency Director

Final score:

221points

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Kaisu Rei 5 years ago

I think she looks really amazing in both, comfy and cute vs. edgy and professional

54points

#20

Loreta, 55, Bioenergetics Consultant

Final score:

219points

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Greg Hoggarth 5 years ago

Looks like a hospital gown in the before.

66points

#21

Irena, 65, Retired

Final score:

199points

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Remi 5 years ago

Incredible change...

27points

#22

Pavel, 30, Photographer

Final score:

193points

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Aahzmandus Pervect 5 years ago

He just needed a new haircut.

67points

#23

Tatyana, 46, Manager

Final score:

190points

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Zoe Alliaume 5 years ago

She already looked good, the makeup makes it better but yeah she would still look good without :P

30points

#24

Jūratė, 42, Florist

Final score:

185points

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Kaisu Rei 5 years ago

Actually I think the makeup here makes her look a bit older

67points

Elena, 40, Youth Center Employee

Final score:

183points

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Monday 5 years ago

This is a really good example of how people with thin hair look better with it in neat, short styles.

75points

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Tatyana, 53, Pensioner

Final score:

172points

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Just another bot 5 years ago

She is smiling in the after pics

43points

Louise Brigance 5 years ago

She looks like she'd take your head off in the first one.

4points

Danielle Irene 5 years ago

Yes, looks so confident after!

5points

Rafaella Bueno 5 years ago

Feels like she didn't think she still had it, but she does!

2points

Lulik 5 years ago

Oh gosh, at first I had read "Tatyana, 53, Prisoner" xD

3points

Teresa Dougan 5 years ago

I read it that way too. Looking at the before pic, I thought she looked like a prison warden

1point

Aunt Messy 5 years ago

She would look younger if they had gone for a lighter shade with her hair.

3points

Alex Bailey 5 years ago

Yes. The expert advice is always go for a colour that is one shade lighter. I don't think that means you can't go several colours lighter or go for blue if it would suit but this is too dark and helmet like.

7points

Batwench Premium 5 years ago

How can a 53 year old be described as a pensioner?

2points

ChiveChilly 5 years ago

The smile helps

2points

Sophie Warner 5 years ago

The smile helps most!

2points

Janice Parks 5 years ago

She looks classier in the after picture but the smile is worth millions!

2points

BusLady 5 years ago

😃

0points

Vikki Albano 5 years ago

Just look how her confidence came out.

2points

Mare Hilchey 5 years ago

She looks better, but I'm not a fan of this level of darkness on someone who's going gray. It would make more sense to make her a dark blonde with some highlights. The super dark one tone color makes it look like a wig.

1point

Whawhawhatsis 5 years ago

For an accurate comparison, they should have the same expression and stand in the same position in both pics.

1point

Flowergirl Power 5 years ago

Tough grandma to hello mama

1point

Tara Trainor 5 years ago

The smile makes a big difference!! Smiles always make people look prettier!

1point

Sue Clasen 5 years ago

Happy with herself again, that's the best change

1point

Tambot 5 years ago

Amazing how a smile can make a huge difference

1point

Abigail Kreiss 5 years ago

She looks happier with her new self.

1point

Josey Griffin 5 years ago

Much better, younger looking

1point

Carla Van Geel 1 year ago

Totally better !

0points

Lisa Kearns 2 years ago

They go from no makeup to full makeup

0points

Inna Hurley 3 years ago

A couple of complementary colors and a smile can erase 20 years--- just like that!

0points

Kathy Bastian 5 years ago

looken good!

0points

Em Morris 5 years ago

The hair colour is far too bpdark on both plus the haircut looks like a football helmet. Far too heavy and bowl shaped. Sorry not a fan of either really. It needed to be a lighter brown and more layers to lighten up the cut. When we get older our skin tone changes and dark colours drain the colour from your face. Going lighter (doesn’t have to be blonde) looks far better ather age than black

0points

sharron lynn parsons 5 years ago

Much improved, lovely smile !!!

0points

sharron lynn parsons 5 years ago

Fantastic change overall !!!

0points

Ani-87 5 years ago

Why they have to make these granny hairstyles for mature women. There are like million other cuts. Looks like she has a chamber pot in her head.

0points

Aneese 5 years ago

Just needs some Crest White Strips to complete the transformation

0points

Clair Gervais 5 years ago

Looks better smile or no smile!

0points

Karin Morris 5 years ago

That took 25 years off of her

0points

Sherry 5 years ago

Keep smiling! The new you looks so much brighter, younger, beautiful and warm!

0points

Brenda Fearon 5 years ago

Gee, "pensioner". Find a better label if you need to label!

0points

Giselle Holloway 5 years ago

Like the new cut and the more vibrant clothing colour choice

0points

Sue Knerl 5 years ago

A smile improves everyone's look. The high heels? I'd be in agony wearing those things.

0points

Tammy Dickinson 5 years ago

That is a such a dramatic shift from unhappy to happy. It is so much more flattering on her. Not sure she is loving the heels, but the hair and makeup are so nice on her.

0points

Paula Sue 5 years ago

What an amazing difference! No wonder she's smiling in the after pics!

0points

Pat Wooster 5 years ago

This had to make her thrilled with the way she looks! Beautiful!

0points

Kiya Ward 5 years ago

i thought her job was a prisoner at first glance

0points

Amanda Hunter 5 years ago

pensioner at 53? l-u-c-k-y

0points

Fernando Jones 5 years ago

here's the thing, after a certain age, and after a certain time in the lifestyle you're in: you're not gonna be wearing stiletto heels like they have this woman in. She looks great in them, but I can just imagine her kicking those things off the SECOND they stopped taking photos and she walked off. lol

0points

diarykeeper 5 years ago

Change in facial expression. Doom of so many before after photos (and reason why I usually prefer not to check them. dice try. wrong message.)

0points

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Vilma, 50, Manager

Final score:

166points

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Pamela24 5 years ago

I feel like Vilma looked pretty great to begin with. And it's hard for me to imagine that she feels comfortable with the new look...but I'm just guessing from the pictures, I'm no mindreader.

71points

#28

Natalia, 38, School Teacher

Final score:

153points

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Kelly Horrigan 5 years ago

Fantastic!

20points

#29

Daiva, 38, Financial Consultant

Final score:

138points

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Josey Griffin 5 years ago

Looks like mother and daughter

23points

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Asel, 33, Housewife

Final score:

138points

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Arietis 5 years ago

The new outfit is cool, but the make-up ages her about a decade. Nude lips or less eye make-up with the reds lips would be much better.

116points

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Jolanta, 53, Entrepreneur

Final score:

137points

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Kaisu Rei 5 years ago

Love the bold red lip, it suits her very well!

37points

#32

Larisa, 58, Entrepreneur

Final score:

128points

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tuzdayschild 5 years ago

That's a beautiful face either way.

32points

Mikhail, 48, Actor

Final score:

127points

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birdhouse 5 years ago

Why do they use so much leather?

50points

#34

Mila, 54, Entrepreneur

Final score:

96points

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Kaisu Rei 5 years ago

She looks great in both, in different ways!

41points

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Natalia, 38, Schoolteacher

Final score:

69points

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Greg Hoggarth 5 years ago

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Monday 5 years ago

Moral of the story? Get yourself a haircut that suits your hair type and facial shape?

62points

SupriyaG 5 years ago

I totally agree with you! Same thoughts.

5points

Rafaella Bueno 5 years ago

Definitely. Had that experience myself too. Specially with the hair type... finding the kind of cut that fits your hair saves you so much time and stress from trying to style it and failing.

3points

Jace 5 years ago

That would be fine. However, that’s not the message being shown here. The message here is “spend money on makeup and clothing”. Also “cover yourself in makeup”. It’s a bad message.

2points

Ian Bodey 5 years ago

So true....

0points

Ms E 5 years ago

And get makeup. Almost noone of them wore makeup on the "before" photo..

-2points

John Dwyer 5 years ago

Wait what? So you mean a new hair style, fresh make up and new clothes will improve your appearance? Who would have thought it?

35points

Martha Meyer 5 years ago

It's not just a “new“ hairstyle, it's always one that compliments people's shape of face. It's not easy to find the right one.

19points

birdhouse 5 years ago

Amazing isn't it. All comes down to money. If you have lots you can look good.

2points

Jace 5 years ago

I think makeup makes women look like uncanny valley androids or mannequins. It’s creepy that I am in the minority on this because that means people are really inculcated into thinking makeup is necessary.

1point

Agnieszka Gocalińska 5 years ago

You need to ditch your glasses as well, apparently ;) The "before" photos are not fair - people have no makeup and no hair done (I''m not talking about fresh cut - but a professional styling of what they had before), and are dressed very casually. Let's compare how would they look after making an effort with what they started with, with what the stylist have done to them - and then we'd have a fair comparison.

0points

Mark À Irvine 5 years ago

John you are a sarcastic m**o, you know?

0points

Lizard Queen 5 years ago

This highlights the importance of well fitted clothing. It doesn't have to be designer: it must fit your shape properly, hide figure flaws, and emphasize assets.

16points

Kaisu Rei 5 years ago

This is relevant to the 10-year challenge post where people commented under celebrities' pictures like "they just don't age!" and the point is that they have access to a hair dresser and makeup artist and dermatologist and dietitian etc whenever they want and that's why they look young

12points

Aunt Messy 5 years ago

Nope. All you need is a decent hair cut, clothes that actually fit (does NOT have to be expensive) and drug store makeup that you can do in under 15 minutes.

1point

Debbie Andersson 5 years ago

Why is it always cutting the hair short? Show a professional long haircut.

11points

Ms E 5 years ago

I was asking the same thing..

3points

Aahzmandus Pervect 5 years ago

I mean, they all look better, but when you take people in their casual clothes, with no or little makeup, give them a new haircut, do throw some makeup on them and put them in new, fancy and hip clothes, who wouldn't look better? Not exactly something we didn't all knew before, right?

10points

Aunt Messy 5 years ago

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Tiari 5 years ago

The colour choices in the after pictures are really not my thing, but the hair changes are amazing.

10points

Damien T 5 years ago

Ordinary people? Little well known fact: everybody is ordinary!

9points

Govert Riekurd 5 years ago

I think the " before" is more natural beautiful then the puppet " after". All girls and young women looks the same. Not unique and as usual is the Trend

7points

Yaz Cam 5 years ago

You can definitely see the personal style of the stylist in the after

7points

Full Name 5 years ago

Haircut, ditch the specs, add plaid pants and get some accessories?

2points

Asia 5 years ago

It's not easy to match style of makeup and hair to the face. What I see here is perfection :D The clothes are debatable, I would change most of them. But obviously we all have different taste, so no biggie.

7points

Dennis Kovalev 5 years ago

You get a concealer, you get a concealer, hey, man - you get a concealer!

5points

Vicky Zar 5 years ago

I would like to see something like this with just the hairstyle changed. I the person uses makeup then it can be used in a more professional way in the after pic too but if the person does not usually use it.... There are so many woman who don't like or don't bother to use makeup. I would like a "before and after" that stays more than just 1 day. If someone did this with me I wouldn't bother to replicate it the next day. Its too much work. So, I would like a change that suits me but does not have high maintenance to replicate daily.

5points

Rafaella Bueno 5 years ago

I don't think the point of the make-up is to necessarily replicate it always... there are some haircuts here that will also need specific styling to look exactly like in the after. I think the point of this was to help the people who volunteered get a profissional opinion of what fits them best - what to do with it afterwards is up to them. I don't and wouldn't wear makeup everyday, but I'd love to have the help of a professional to know what kind of make-up look would be good for me so I can wear it when I want to look my very best - it's not easy to figure that out for yourself.

3points

Naima Ivansdóttir 5 years ago

a basic make up routine is not very high maintenance. if you have a professional showing you the step-by-step routine you'll be able to replicate it the same way soon with a little practice.

2points

Martha Meyer 5 years ago

You are right. Putting on make-up the same way a professional has done is also near impossible.

1point

Melissa D 5 years ago

I say even the before picture they are good looking.

5points

kathryn stretton 5 years ago

Loved this post. I can do this myself, with new make-up and a new haircut. Just the lift I need. It's pushed me to sort myself out. Thanks.

4points

Meowton Mewsk 5 years ago

Many of these people look good but others are a good example of why you can’t trust hairdressers.

4points

Aunt Messy 5 years ago

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Ms E 5 years ago (edited)

It's sad that all of the photos required hair cutting. Why are stylists always so happy about cutting off hair? It's the same when I go to the dresser and ask them to fix my roots. They always ask if I shouldn't cut off my hair. Now I have a hairdresser that don't bother about that. She only reminds me when my ends are split and cutting off what's needed- not more. Also kind of boring that many of these clothing styles are very uncomfy. Of course a classy suit makes anyone look better, but who wears that everyday if they are not the Queen herself or CEO somewhere? And lastly: none of these wore any make up in the 'before' pic. Makeup does a lot. Getting a good makeup done by a expert is of course the key.

3points

Dianna Longoria 5 years ago

Teaching models to stand up straight and at an angle instead of straight on makes them look younger and more stylish.

3points

Full Name 5 years ago

And makes you look thinner.

3points

Hans 5 years ago

Make-up, jewelery, designer clothes, maybe some hair spray. Well...

3points

Vic 5 years ago

I would like to see the after pictures with just the hair do and clothes.. Not the makeup..

2points

April Baum 5 years ago

We all get stuck on a look. They all look amazing. Take what you like and leave the rest

2points

Ani 5 years ago

This just shows what a lot of foundation and/or digital airbrushing will do for your skin. They seem to hide a lot of their skin imperfections. Love the hairstyle improvements, though, some of them are great!

2points

Jo Choto 5 years ago

I love how they have used women of all ages and sizes. Some of the clothes styling is a bit bizarre, but the hair and makeup is awesome. I think I need this person to come and fix me!

2points

Serbob 5 years ago

I don't have a problem with a little eyebrow touch-up, but I'll be happy when this overly drawn on eyebrow fad is gone. It doesn't look too bad in pictures, but up close it looks ridiculous.

2points

Vivi-Mari Carpelan 5 years ago

I have always struggled to get the eye brows to look natural... I catch myself in a mirror and my heart sinks when I see how badly drawn they are that day. I agree that super styled looks silly. Still, on some people it’s better than none at all.

1point

MonsterMash 5 years ago

I love how a few token men were thrown in. This is clearly an post about making women feel they must look “younger” and more fashionable through consuming makeup and clothing. I’d be more into this if there were about an equal amount of men, but this is just more b.s. telling women to always be trying to achieve a look that’s not natural to us. Women’s bodies aren’t a consumable commodity to be improved upon, were people not products.

2points

Full Name 5 years ago

So you wish there were more men, yet you hate the entire concept because people aren't products? Also, I assume you get out of bed and literally just throw on the first thing you see because you feel appearance doesn't matter? Didn't think so.

3points

Sansa Blacktyde 5 years ago

I wish they wouldn't take glasses off the people in the after photos. We need to get away from the notion that a successful makeover requires them to be ditched. Otherwise these are fantastic and I really need someone like Konstantin in my life!

1point

Troux 5 years ago (edited)

I'm calling photoshop here. On many of these people, you can easily see that the hairline has moved forward, and is blurry in those areas. Once again, impossible standards set by the "must be beautiful to matter" mantra.

1point

Rabite 5 years ago

Not a fan of so much makeup and all those "trendy" haircuts. I think half of the makeup and just some freshening up on the haircuts (e.g. cut the split ends, shape, colour, maybe bangs) would have been totally fine. Also I don't think that those people can keep their looks for more than this one day.

1point

Melanie Lillibridge 5 years ago

Can I go next? hehe

1point

Enuya 5 years ago

I agree that changing a hairstyle often does wonders - this is well seen in these pictures. Still, it seems to me that the impression of great change is a bit staged. Look at the models' poses - on the "before" pictures they always stay stiff in rather unpleasant and closed poses and they're not smiling. On the "after" ones they are posing - they stay in ways that make them look more self-confident and attractive, they're smiling, they're looking on the photographer. While some of the transformations are pretty spectacular - I think that the way the photos were taken also plays a big role here.

1point

Vivi-Mari Carpelan 5 years ago

The point seems to be to bring out an opposite personality, and it looks pretty fake for the most part. People lose their own personalities in these make overs, especially in some of those horrid clothes. But there’s definitely something to be said about a hair style that defies gravity, a bit of eyeliner and well defined eye brows. Having said that, it’s difficult to figure out a hair style that suits you if you can’t afford an expert hair dresser.

1point

Jessica Everson 5 years ago

It's annoying that almost all of the women have had double the amount of make-up and high heels put on. Society keeps telling us that a woman won't look good in flats and a natural, or minimal, face and it's bullsh*t. Sorry, rant over.

1point

Caroline Allnutt 5 years ago

There are only 3 men transformed.... many more are needed.

1point

Paula Bogomolova 5 years ago

False. These are just a few transformations Bored Panda chose to feature. On the website there are a lot more

2points

Atika Bennamane 5 years ago

more defined eyebrows and access to photoshop can make you look younger? I'm shocked

1point

ADHORTATOR 5 years ago

Very impressive

1point

Ivie Mladenova 3 years ago

Amazing transformations. I love the make up

0points

Val Naim 5 years ago

Some of these makeovers are amazing! I can't imagine how happy it made these women to see how they can look with a little tweaks. I'm assuming they were all done by the same stylist because each women's hair is chopped short in the same fashion. I wish he/ she left the women with some length or explored some different styles. I do love the concept and they really look great.

0points

Victoria Williams 5 years ago

I find BP's use of the word 'ordinary' in the title pretty offensive considering you're supposed to be so PC. These are all people just getting on with their lives. I bet there's something extraordinary about each and every one of them

0points

Perseida Borealis 5 years ago

Nice to see fellow thin-haired people for once. Also, happy to check some haircut ideas for this hair type.

0points

Pgh Rhdj 5 years ago

They are all good looking and just get better with something that fit perfectly.

0points

Florence L 5 years ago

5 didn't need a makeover...

0points

Renata Šobot 5 years ago

Of course they look great after a professional makeover which must have taken god knows how long and cost god knows how much. Regular people don't have the time and money to look like that in their everyday lives. How about some tips and tricks on how to look our best on a budget and in under 30 minutes?

0points

Christie Beaver 5 years ago

At least they let one lady keep her glasses. I get so tired of “make overs” that include losing the glasses! Squinting is not a good look, people!!!

0points

Katinka Min 5 years ago

How to be pretty: get make-up that looks identical to everybody elses and carry a handbag

0points

Katinka Min 5 years ago

The 1980s have called and want their format back. Seriously, I can't believe I am seeing this kind of c**p again. What next? Shoulder pads and big hair?

0points

sharron lynn parsons 5 years ago

Women feel better

0points

TC 5 years ago

I need this also...

0points

Erica Stewart 5 years ago

A talented, artistic hair-stylist can make a big change with her knowledge of face shapes, hair texture, length, and color for a basic makeover. Proceed with make-up and clothing changes if wanted, but start with your hair!

0points

William King 5 years ago

It seems that hairstyles, hair color, and makeup - or lack thereof - which may have suited many before no longer work best for them now. Some of the transformations are remarkable.

0points

Éva Nemes 5 years ago

Just a bit of make-up and haircut... ok :) but without make up can be someone beautiul ;)

0points

Ian Bodey 5 years ago

Also as a hairdresser of long standing, if your hairdresser won’t spend time discussing your hair style then don’t let them touch it....go to one who cares......

0points

Ian Bodey 5 years ago

It’s amazing how the men only really needed a decent haircut whilst the women needed a ton of makeup to really look descent . But as a hairdresser of long standing I notice just how much different people look with a good haircut..........

0points

First Name 5 years ago

What a vacuous article.

0points

Helen Haley 5 years ago

Yes a professional stylist and the money to maintain crisp haircuts and the time and skill to fully style it every morning, will improve your look. But man that's a lot of work and money.

0points

Susan Coughlin 5 years ago

Whenever I see makeovers like this, I wish I could see what they look like after 2 weeks of managing their "new look" BY THEMSELVES!

0points

jenjie.newt 5 years ago

What I love most about these photos is how much more confident they all look afterward! From posture to expression, that's the most important result of the small cosmetic changes which really translates to overall appearance and hopefully happiness!

0points

Fran Copestick 5 years ago

brilliant makeovers! <3

0points

Lyone Fein 5 years ago

So, expensive clothing and haircuts makes a difference. Hmm.

0points

K.R. 5 years ago

It's amazing what a great haircut/restyle can do for a person!

0points

bob 5 years ago

What a mysterious recipe. Several liters of make-up + new haircut + new wardrobe + photoshop = another look. Never would have suspected this.

0points

shalom mammen 5 years ago

Excuse me... Miss/Mr. Stylist, where are you? I need you here with me !

0points

Brea Jones 5 years ago

You all look great amazing transformation! But why aren’t other races included? No Blk, Spanish or Asian I wonder why. Maybe it’s because we age gracefully and you didn’t want those nationalities to take the spotlight.

0points

Eirik Johnsbråten 5 years ago

I hate stories like these. They tell us that we are ugly by nature, especially women. Can't we turn this around? Can we learn that we are beautiful by nature?

0points

Linda Newhouse 5 years ago

What I'm wondering is if these people can maintain their new looks. How much time are they willing to put into their hair and make-up in the morning? How much time will the new looks require?

0points

Lora Holt 5 years ago

I want - no I NEED someone to do this for me.

0points

Diana Walker 5 years ago

All I see is comfortable and uncomfortable.... really leather? Let me be plain Jane if it means comfort Vs high heels and leather pants!

0points

Michelle Dodson 5 years ago

Lovely make-overs. I think the main thing I can take away from this is that I seriously need to learn how to do my eyebrows. I have hazel-green eyes & it seems as if the brows are what helps to really define them. (I could use a wardrobe makeover as well, but $$$). I don't generally wear make up, but I wouldn't mind looking a little younger!

0points

Gerry Higgins 5 years ago

Doesn't this contradict all the threads posted here about being strong and confident Just As You Are and not caving in to media pressure to be pretty? Mixed message BP?

0points

Chet Kaplan 5 years ago

Yes impressive, but the usual before and after tricks used by ads for ages are here. No make-up vs. with make-up. Better lighting, better smile, and a oft-missed one, have you noticed that in all the aft pictures the people are all taller?

0points

Nadya W-G 5 years ago

One major problem I see with these makeovers: those womens' haircuts run $40+ a month. Sorry, not willing to pour that money down the toilet.

0points

R.s. Potter 5 years ago

Too many of these transformations involve hair dye and leather jackets. I had a leather jacket years ago and hated it. Hair dye? Too expensive and time consuming to maintain.

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Gracie Mae 5 years ago

these are all great for showing that damned near EVERYONE can 'look' better with make-up & wardrobe changes. personally, i found the before pics to be great; i like a natural look. i'm a t-shirt & jeans kind-of-gal, but yes, i know i can look 'better' if i try. the thing is, it's not me. not trying to impress other people and am happy being my version of BEFORE.

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Jana Renner 5 years ago

Wish I could just walk in and get a make over by him! I have no idea what would suit me...I am just myself growing older and buying darker trousers...

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Eva Jean Patten-Roby 5 years ago

i cant help but notice that these posts are encouraging people to cut their hair lol

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Wim Cossement 5 years ago

Turning sheeple into hipsters?

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Pungent Sauce 5 years ago

“Who you met at the pub vs who you woke up with”

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Hugo Raible 5 years ago

Flight to Riga is booked ;)

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Patrick Lang 5 years ago

Everybody dreams of looking better than life. Here's how you can achieve that. Great show, this. Dare to become a star!

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Jo Barton 5 years ago

Did they have facials too?

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Kryogen 5 years ago

Well, most of those people are in "sunday mode" (no make, confort wear), before the "transformation".... It's not hard to do "better" after that.

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Melanie Lillibridge 5 years ago

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Full Name 5 years ago

Sooooo...cut the hair shorter (as opposed to styling whatcha got), plaid pants, ditch the glasses and add as many accessories as you can? Check.

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Gary Born 5 years ago

Newly transformed lady - send me your contact information please

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Gary Born 5 years ago

On a number of them their inner beauty already showed through . No transformation was necessary

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Mark CM 5 years ago

So hair gel makes you younger. Got it.

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Adam Rhodes 5 years ago

Gross ordinary people!!

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Daniel (ShadowDrakken) 5 years ago

Wouldn't this be fashion shaming?

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Mark À Irvine 5 years ago

get a good haircut and wear tight pants, preferably made of leather ...

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Sandra Kuus 5 years ago

The new clothes are rockin’! Little color makes a big difference. Everyone looks so refreshed!

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Dorothy Parker 5 years ago

So many of these models are improved by simply having their skin tones evened out and brightened up with makeup. Face it, we all look great after having our hair done It's two weeks down the line when we give up and go back to our old ways, stop blowing it dry every morning, etc.

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Justin Dodson 5 years ago

ITS PRETTY OBVIOUS NOT JUST BY THE NAMES BUT BY THE CLOTHES THAT THIS WAS NOT IN THE U.S

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Enuya 5 years ago

Yep. So?

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Rebekah Hughes 5 years ago

For some reason, everyone on here looks like they would have a British accent. I don't why. Is it just me?

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Kate Au 5 years ago

TEACH MEE!!!!

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Ariel 5 years ago

I prefer the before photos for quite a few of them, to me they look more approachable than the sleek, stylish after looks.

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Tacitus86 5 years ago

Where do I sign up?

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Joi Behrend 5 years ago

Netflix should get this guy to do a makeover show. I'd totally watch it!

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Richard Mell 5 years ago

I love how the use/ non use of makeup was the same in before and after pics! Bravo

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Richard Mell 5 years ago

Except asel sp?

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Whatevers not taken 5 years ago

Also all their clothes got way more fancy and pricy. So get some new clothes and youll look good.

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Nathalie Sjöblom Lagestam 5 years ago

As good as these make overs are (they are not over the top and unrealistic, most look comfortable and genuine) it convinces me even more that I should never let anyone do a make over on me. I might look like a hobo plucked straigt from the Dark ages but that also happens to be the look I like and is comfortable with. I wouldn't wear a single piece of clothing from any of the make overs. There's nothing wrong with them but they're on as far from what I want to wear as you can get. ..and if you try to dye or cut my hair (that's red and down to my a*s) into a "Modern" hairstyle to "flatter my face and make it come alive" you will have to fight me and let me tell you, you will loose. What I'm trying to say is: everyone has a different take on what's pretty and not all of us like modern fashion, whether it be this or any of that you see in Magazines or on TV. Some of us like really different things and even if I might look like a car crash to you I don't need a make over if I like it

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Cathy Jo Baker 5 years ago

Nathalie, I totally agree. I like who I am, the way I dress, my crazy hairstyle. I'm comfortable this way, and I feel good this way. Good for these people if they wanted makeovers. I don't. However, I will also say that this is a sad commentary on society: if you are female and don't do your hair, wear make up, or high heels, you need a makeover. BS!

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Rich McCormick 5 years ago

As a hairdresser for more than 35 years I have to say, I loved all the transformations. The problem with some of these are that these folks have a mind set and they have to be willing and WANTING to change. Often times shows will revisit makeover models and they had gone back to their old looks or kept very little of the new look. Habits and self image is often hard to break unless, again, they are really wanting and WILLING to change and keep up the new look. The outfits were all A+ in my book. #6 was really eye catching and you could tell she was over the moon with her new look!

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MagNat 5 years ago

Rubs me in the wrong way that apparently all the women have to paint their faces to 'look better'. Many of the transformations are amazing tho.

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M.J. 5 years ago

All the guys in the pics just needed a new haircut and not super tight pants, tons of leather and a bag. What's wrong with Jeans and a Shirt?!

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Alex Bailey 5 years ago

Depends on the jeans and the shirt - even jeans have different cuts that will suit some body shapes better than others. Same for shirts. Though the trousers chosen were ugh.

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Kilo Bean 5 years ago

Most of these after hairstyles are extremely dated.

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Meowton Mewsk 5 years ago

EXTREEEEEMELY

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Atika Bennamane 5 years ago

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Lori Beauchamp 5 years ago

Who on earth has the right to decide how you should "look better"?

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Naima Ivansdóttir 5 years ago

i don't think it's about "deciding", i think it's about "suggesting"... some people may simply be focusing on other things in life, being satisfied with how they look and dress and not thinking too much about it. in this case someone (a professional) comes along with suggestions and hints, they give it a try and might like themselves better (and keep working in that direction) or worse (and go back to the way they were before)... nothing wrong with that i think... it's not they were forced into it :)

10points

Rafaella Bueno 5 years ago

People who have studied for it can usually tell what will enhance your own natural features better, just like a designer making aesthetic choices for a poster... people will always have something they'd do differently to fit their personal taste, but it will be what most people will find pleasing to the eye. There is method to beauty.

3points

Aunt Messy 5 years ago

People carry themselves better when they know they look their best. It's a massive psychological boost for just about everyone. Like it or not - looking sloppy or lazy at work means that no one's going to take you seriously. After all, if you can't even be bothered to take care of yourself, how is anyone going to believe that you're competent at your job? ...///... Flo Zeigfeld used to make sure that all of his dancers had silk panties. He said that they stood up straighter if they were wearing something pretty. He was right.

2points

Full Name 5 years ago

Everybody. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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Jace 5 years ago

This whole article looks like a “stop being human!” promotion for expensive clothing and makeup companies. It is reinforcing that makeup is best. It’s not. Makeup sucks, for the most part. Especially to the degree used here. A little is okay sometimes, but it usually makes people look like uncanny valley robots to me. There’s a huge difference between figuring out how to look your best while being yourself and “looking good by arbitrary beauty product-selling” standards. This is kind of a horrible “article”. As Lios said before me, and as I will paraphrase: it is awful that we are conditioned to treat makeup-free people as unattractive, unhealthy, bland, or outright ugly.

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Lisa 5 years ago

So the point of this post seems to be once again that (mostly) women need to look good/ improve how they look...... and higher heels seem to help that a lot...

-1point

Lisa 5 years ago

So as usual this post is telling (mostly) women to look better.... and wear higher heels I guess

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Überdenken 5 years ago

Half of these look better in the before pictures but oh well

-1point

Victoria Williams 5 years ago

Not loving your titles these days... none of these people are ordinary. Just caught up in their lives without access to a personal stylist on hand. Like most of us

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Full Name 5 years ago

Did you just say they aren't ordinary, then say they are "like most of us"?

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Kenny Kulbiski 5 years ago

First we had a whole slew of posts about plus size women that we were supposed to admire and respect for what was on the inside. Now we've got people we're supposed to admire for what's on outside. Sometimes I have a hard time keeping up. Good advertisement though.

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Enuya 5 years ago (edited)

You know, the world is not only white or black. You can admire someone's appereance and personality at the same time. Also, while "inside" is important, people like to look good. Not only for the others - just for yourself, to feel beautiful and confident. It is important for your mental health, to feel good with both your personality AND body. I believe these transformations helped some of these women to better understand themselves and their good sides. This does not deny their rich personality or passions. Also, I don't think that the point of the plus size modeling is "to admire and respect for what was on the inside" - this is to show that you may look good and self confident regardless of the type of figure.

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Darryl Kerrigan 5 years ago

Yeah! You all look like c**p. Get a haircut and new clothes so people value you!! (Sorry, bad day today)

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Alex Bailey 5 years ago

What's wrong Darryl? This isn't like you. Though I'd like a new haircut and new clothes and to feel more valued.

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jknbt jknbt 5 years ago

somebody nominate whoever is doing this for the Nobel Prize! This is fantastic!

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BeenElle 5 years ago

The Nobel prize, really? That comment suggest a very narrow view of our world. Millions of things are more important than this.

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Sharon Sallows 5 years ago

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The Phantom of the Opera 5 years ago

Go look at an Eastern European.

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Martha Meyer 5 years ago

This was clearly in Russia. What did you expect?

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Vivi-Mari Carpelan 5 years ago

Notice how slim they all are as well... easy to style.

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TJler 5 years ago

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Monday 5 years ago

Moral of the story? Get yourself a haircut that suits your hair type and facial shape?

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SupriyaG 5 years ago

I totally agree with you! Same thoughts.

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Rafaella Bueno 5 years ago

Definitely. Had that experience myself too. Specially with the hair type... finding the kind of cut that fits your hair saves you so much time and stress from trying to style it and failing.

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Jace 5 years ago

That would be fine. However, that’s not the message being shown here. The message here is “spend money on makeup and clothing”. Also “cover yourself in makeup”. It’s a bad message.

2points

Ian Bodey 5 years ago

So true....

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Ms E 5 years ago

And get makeup. Almost noone of them wore makeup on the "before" photo..

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John Dwyer 5 years ago

Wait what? So you mean a new hair style, fresh make up and new clothes will improve your appearance? Who would have thought it?

35points

Martha Meyer 5 years ago

It's not just a “new“ hairstyle, it's always one that compliments people's shape of face. It's not easy to find the right one.

19points

birdhouse 5 years ago

Amazing isn't it. All comes down to money. If you have lots you can look good.

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Jace 5 years ago

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Agnieszka Gocalińska 5 years ago

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Mark À Irvine 5 years ago

John you are a sarcastic m**o, you know?

0points

Lizard Queen 5 years ago

This highlights the importance of well fitted clothing. It doesn't have to be designer: it must fit your shape properly, hide figure flaws, and emphasize assets.

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Kaisu Rei 5 years ago

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Aunt Messy 5 years ago

Nope. All you need is a decent hair cut, clothes that actually fit (does NOT have to be expensive) and drug store makeup that you can do in under 15 minutes.

1point

Debbie Andersson 5 years ago

Why is it always cutting the hair short? Show a professional long haircut.

11points

Ms E 5 years ago

I was asking the same thing..

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Aahzmandus Pervect 5 years ago

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Aunt Messy 5 years ago

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Tiari 5 years ago

The colour choices in the after pictures are really not my thing, but the hair changes are amazing.

10points

Damien T 5 years ago

Ordinary people? Little well known fact: everybody is ordinary!

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Govert Riekurd 5 years ago

I think the " before" is more natural beautiful then the puppet " after". All girls and young women looks the same. Not unique and as usual is the Trend

7points

Yaz Cam 5 years ago

You can definitely see the personal style of the stylist in the after

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Full Name 5 years ago

Haircut, ditch the specs, add plaid pants and get some accessories?

2points

Asia 5 years ago

7points

Dennis Kovalev 5 years ago

You get a concealer, you get a concealer, hey, man - you get a concealer!

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Vicky Zar 5 years ago

5points

Rafaella Bueno 5 years ago

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Naima Ivansdóttir 5 years ago

a basic make up routine is not very high maintenance. if you have a professional showing you the step-by-step routine you'll be able to replicate it the same way soon with a little practice.

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Martha Meyer 5 years ago

You are right. Putting on make-up the same way a professional has done is also near impossible.

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Melissa D 5 years ago

I say even the before picture they are good looking.

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kathryn stretton 5 years ago

Loved this post. I can do this myself, with new make-up and a new haircut. Just the lift I need. It's pushed me to sort myself out. Thanks.

4points

Meowton Mewsk 5 years ago

Many of these people look good but others are a good example of why you can’t trust hairdressers.

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Aunt Messy 5 years ago

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Dianna Longoria 5 years ago

Teaching models to stand up straight and at an angle instead of straight on makes them look younger and more stylish.

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Full Name 5 years ago

And makes you look thinner.

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Hans 5 years ago

Make-up, jewelery, designer clothes, maybe some hair spray. Well...

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Vic 5 years ago

I would like to see the after pictures with just the hair do and clothes.. Not the makeup..

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April Baum 5 years ago

We all get stuck on a look. They all look amazing. Take what you like and leave the rest

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Ani 5 years ago

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Jo Choto 5 years ago

I love how they have used women of all ages and sizes. Some of the clothes styling is a bit bizarre, but the hair and makeup is awesome. I think I need this person to come and fix me!

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Serbob 5 years ago

I don't have a problem with a little eyebrow touch-up, but I'll be happy when this overly drawn on eyebrow fad is gone. It doesn't look too bad in pictures, but up close it looks ridiculous.

2points

Vivi-Mari Carpelan 5 years ago

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MonsterMash 5 years ago

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Full Name 5 years ago

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Sansa Blacktyde 5 years ago

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Troux 5 years ago (edited)

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Rabite 5 years ago

1point

Melanie Lillibridge 5 years ago

Can I go next? hehe

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Enuya 5 years ago

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Vivi-Mari Carpelan 5 years ago

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Jessica Everson 5 years ago

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Caroline Allnutt 5 years ago

There are only 3 men transformed.... many more are needed.

1point

Paula Bogomolova 5 years ago

False. These are just a few transformations Bored Panda chose to feature. On the website there are a lot more

2points

Atika Bennamane 5 years ago

more defined eyebrows and access to photoshop can make you look younger? I'm shocked

1point

ADHORTATOR 5 years ago

Very impressive

1point

Ivie Mladenova 3 years ago

Amazing transformations. I love the make up

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Val Naim 5 years ago

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Victoria Williams 5 years ago

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Perseida Borealis 5 years ago

Nice to see fellow thin-haired people for once. Also, happy to check some haircut ideas for this hair type.

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Pgh Rhdj 5 years ago

They are all good looking and just get better with something that fit perfectly.

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Florence L 5 years ago

5 didn't need a makeover...

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Renata Šobot 5 years ago

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Christie Beaver 5 years ago

At least they let one lady keep her glasses. I get so tired of “make overs” that include losing the glasses! Squinting is not a good look, people!!!

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Katinka Min 5 years ago

How to be pretty: get make-up that looks identical to everybody elses and carry a handbag

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Katinka Min 5 years ago

The 1980s have called and want their format back. Seriously, I can't believe I am seeing this kind of c**p again. What next? Shoulder pads and big hair?

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sharron lynn parsons 5 years ago

Women feel better

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TC 5 years ago

I need this also...

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Erica Stewart 5 years ago

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William King 5 years ago

It seems that hairstyles, hair color, and makeup - or lack thereof - which may have suited many before no longer work best for them now. Some of the transformations are remarkable.

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Éva Nemes 5 years ago

Just a bit of make-up and haircut... ok :) but without make up can be someone beautiul ;)

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Ian Bodey 5 years ago

Also as a hairdresser of long standing, if your hairdresser won’t spend time discussing your hair style then don’t let them touch it....go to one who cares......

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Ian Bodey 5 years ago

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First Name 5 years ago

What a vacuous article.

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Helen Haley 5 years ago

Yes a professional stylist and the money to maintain crisp haircuts and the time and skill to fully style it every morning, will improve your look. But man that's a lot of work and money.

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Susan Coughlin 5 years ago

Whenever I see makeovers like this, I wish I could see what they look like after 2 weeks of managing their "new look" BY THEMSELVES!

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jenjie.newt 5 years ago

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Fran Copestick 5 years ago

brilliant makeovers! <3

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Lyone Fein 5 years ago

So, expensive clothing and haircuts makes a difference. Hmm.

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K.R. 5 years ago

It's amazing what a great haircut/restyle can do for a person!

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bob 5 years ago

What a mysterious recipe. Several liters of make-up + new haircut + new wardrobe + photoshop = another look. Never would have suspected this.

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shalom mammen 5 years ago

Excuse me... Miss/Mr. Stylist, where are you? I need you here with me !

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Brea Jones 5 years ago

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Eirik Johnsbråten 5 years ago

I hate stories like these. They tell us that we are ugly by nature, especially women. Can't we turn this around? Can we learn that we are beautiful by nature?

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Linda Newhouse 5 years ago

What I'm wondering is if these people can maintain their new looks. How much time are they willing to put into their hair and make-up in the morning? How much time will the new looks require?

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Lora Holt 5 years ago

I want - no I NEED someone to do this for me.

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Diana Walker 5 years ago

All I see is comfortable and uncomfortable.... really leather? Let me be plain Jane if it means comfort Vs high heels and leather pants!

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Michelle Dodson 5 years ago

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Gerry Higgins 5 years ago

Doesn't this contradict all the threads posted here about being strong and confident Just As You Are and not caving in to media pressure to be pretty? Mixed message BP?

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Chet Kaplan 5 years ago

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Nadya W-G 5 years ago

One major problem I see with these makeovers: those womens' haircuts run $40+ a month. Sorry, not willing to pour that money down the toilet.

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R.s. Potter 5 years ago

Too many of these transformations involve hair dye and leather jackets. I had a leather jacket years ago and hated it. Hair dye? Too expensive and time consuming to maintain.

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Gracie Mae 5 years ago

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Jana Renner 5 years ago

Wish I could just walk in and get a make over by him! I have no idea what would suit me...I am just myself growing older and buying darker trousers...

0points

Eva Jean Patten-Roby 5 years ago

i cant help but notice that these posts are encouraging people to cut their hair lol

0points

Wim Cossement 5 years ago

Turning sheeple into hipsters?

0points

Pungent Sauce 5 years ago

“Who you met at the pub vs who you woke up with”

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Hugo Raible 5 years ago

Flight to Riga is booked ;)

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Patrick Lang 5 years ago

Everybody dreams of looking better than life. Here's how you can achieve that. Great show, this. Dare to become a star!

0points

Jo Barton 5 years ago

Did they have facials too?

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Kryogen 5 years ago

Well, most of those people are in "sunday mode" (no make, confort wear), before the "transformation".... It's not hard to do "better" after that.

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Melanie Lillibridge 5 years ago

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Full Name 5 years ago

Sooooo...cut the hair shorter (as opposed to styling whatcha got), plaid pants, ditch the glasses and add as many accessories as you can? Check.

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Gary Born 5 years ago

Newly transformed lady - send me your contact information please

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Gary Born 5 years ago

On a number of them their inner beauty already showed through . No transformation was necessary

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Mark CM 5 years ago

So hair gel makes you younger. Got it.

0points

Adam Rhodes 5 years ago

Gross ordinary people!!

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Daniel (ShadowDrakken) 5 years ago

Wouldn't this be fashion shaming?

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Mark À Irvine 5 years ago

get a good haircut and wear tight pants, preferably made of leather ...

0points

Sandra Kuus 5 years ago

The new clothes are rockin’! Little color makes a big difference. Everyone looks so refreshed!

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Dorothy Parker 5 years ago

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Justin Dodson 5 years ago

ITS PRETTY OBVIOUS NOT JUST BY THE NAMES BUT BY THE CLOTHES THAT THIS WAS NOT IN THE U.S

0points

Enuya 5 years ago

Yep. So?

0points

Rebekah Hughes 5 years ago

For some reason, everyone on here looks like they would have a British accent. I don't why. Is it just me?

0points

Kate Au 5 years ago

TEACH MEE!!!!

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Ariel 5 years ago

I prefer the before photos for quite a few of them, to me they look more approachable than the sleek, stylish after looks.

0points

Tacitus86 5 years ago

Where do I sign up?

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Joi Behrend 5 years ago

Netflix should get this guy to do a makeover show. I'd totally watch it!

0points

Richard Mell 5 years ago

I love how the use/ non use of makeup was the same in before and after pics! Bravo

0points

Richard Mell 5 years ago

Except asel sp?

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Whatevers not taken 5 years ago

Also all their clothes got way more fancy and pricy. So get some new clothes and youll look good.

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Nathalie Sjöblom Lagestam 5 years ago

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Cathy Jo Baker 5 years ago

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Rich McCormick 5 years ago

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MagNat 5 years ago

Rubs me in the wrong way that apparently all the women have to paint their faces to 'look better'. Many of the transformations are amazing tho.

0points

M.J. 5 years ago

All the guys in the pics just needed a new haircut and not super tight pants, tons of leather and a bag. What's wrong with Jeans and a Shirt?!

0points

Alex Bailey 5 years ago

Depends on the jeans and the shirt - even jeans have different cuts that will suit some body shapes better than others. Same for shirts. Though the trousers chosen were ugh.

0points

Kilo Bean 5 years ago

Most of these after hairstyles are extremely dated.

0points

Meowton Mewsk 5 years ago

EXTREEEEEMELY

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Atika Bennamane 5 years ago

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0points

Lori Beauchamp 5 years ago

Who on earth has the right to decide how you should "look better"?

0points

Naima Ivansdóttir 5 years ago

10points

Rafaella Bueno 5 years ago

3points

Aunt Messy 5 years ago

2points

Full Name 5 years ago

Everybody. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

0points

Jace 5 years ago

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Lisa 5 years ago

So the point of this post seems to be once again that (mostly) women need to look good/ improve how they look...... and higher heels seem to help that a lot...

-1point

Lisa 5 years ago

So as usual this post is telling (mostly) women to look better.... and wear higher heels I guess

-1point

Überdenken 5 years ago

Half of these look better in the before pictures but oh well

-1point

Victoria Williams 5 years ago

Not loving your titles these days... none of these people are ordinary. Just caught up in their lives without access to a personal stylist on hand. Like most of us

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Full Name 5 years ago

Did you just say they aren't ordinary, then say they are "like most of us"?

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Kenny Kulbiski 5 years ago

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Enuya 5 years ago (edited)

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Darryl Kerrigan 5 years ago

Yeah! You all look like c**p. Get a haircut and new clothes so people value you!! (Sorry, bad day today)

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Alex Bailey 5 years ago

What's wrong Darryl? This isn't like you. Though I'd like a new haircut and new clothes and to feel more valued.

0points

jknbt jknbt 5 years ago

somebody nominate whoever is doing this for the Nobel Prize! This is fantastic!

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BeenElle 5 years ago

The Nobel prize, really? That comment suggest a very narrow view of our world. Millions of things are more important than this.

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Sharon Sallows 5 years ago

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The Phantom of the Opera 5 years ago

Go look at an Eastern European.

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