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In 1935, Portuguese doctor Egas Moniz learned of an experiment where removing the frontal lobes of two chimpanzees resulted in reduced violent behavior, making them more compliant. Those results triggered the doctor to try the experiment on humans.

Shortly after performing this procedure on unsuspecting patients suffering from mental illnesses, he published a paper demonstrating a method he believed to be an innovative way to treat such illnesses as schizophrenia and psychosis.

Today, Moniz is remembered for starting one of the most shameful and tragic procedures in medicine. 

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Before And After: The Tragedy Of Lobotomy

Before and after images of a child post-lobotomy, showing changes in facial expression and mood.

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Ani-87
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes because it’s always a good idea to put a small child alone in a cage in the dark basement with no human interaction and kindness.

Catlady6000
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There still isn't adequate help available for parents with violently unstable children. Sometimes the worst choice is the only one left. Just because he was in a cage, does not mean he was neglected. He was confined for the safety of the rest of the family. From experience, my mother is the sweetest, kindest woman, until she is psychotic. Thankfully, there is usually some sort of help for adults, although that is often inadequate as well.

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Nikki D
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand, he looks so happy in the after picture?

BusLady
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My own son is schizophrenic. I hate to think of anyone doing this to a young child.

Kevin Nicholson
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

every single one of these photos has been flipped , you dont understand when you cut the front lob, you are emotionless, you are not there, its a sick sick world we live in an its only getting sicker

Dwight Brautigam
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I thought the same. Before and after are complete LIES.

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Light
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Makes me sick to my stomach. How sure were they that it is the right diagnosis back then?

Jillian Christman
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6 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's all they knew, they thought it was, and they did what they thought was right. Now we know more, but we'll have the same scenario in 100 years. Remember it was the only option back then, either a lobotomy or no treatment.

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Sig Retterer
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Look how happy and healthy he looks in the second picture! Clearly lobotomies are safe and effective even for children, and doctors would never lie to us or use children and young people for experimentation even though there are other treatments!

Reese Coffee
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cannot tell if you are serious, but if so they disabled his hypothalamus (a region of the forebrain below the thalamus which coordinates both the autonomic nervous system and the activity of the pituitary, controlling body temperature, thirst, hunger, and other homeostatic systems, and involved in sleep and emotional activity.)

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Bobbie Jean Davis
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He looks like he's ready to be a serial killer because the frontal lobe is responsible for higher cognitive functions such as memory, emotions, impulse control, problem solving, social interaction, and motor function. Damage to the neurons or tissue of the frontal lobe can lead to personality changes, difficulty concentrating or planning, and impulsivity.

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When Was the Last Lobotomy Performed?

From 1945 to 1947, around 2,000 lobotomies were performed. However, the number skyrocketed to 18,000 after Moniz was awarded the Nobel Prize for Medicine for his discovery in 1949. 

The development of antipsychotic medications has been the salvation of patients who were next in line for more lobotomies before and after the results.

The final recorded lobotomy in the United States was performed by Dr. Walter Freeman in 1967, tragically resulting in the death of the patient.

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    Lobotomy before and after images showing a man in 1942 and 1946, highlighting changes post-procedure.

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    Living_Shadow
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly with these photos you can really tell that the doctors only cared about the patients appearances in the end... they didn't bother noting down the side effects or any behavior afterwards

    Sig Retterer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look how happy and healthy he looks in the second picture! Clearly lobotomies are safe and effective for everyone, and doctors would never lie to us or use experimental medicine on people even though there might be other treatments available!

    Tara Axl-rose
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one is definitely flipped. You can see the marks/bruising from where they did the operation through the eye socket. It's very obvious that most of these are flipped, since a lot of the "afters" it shows them smiling or with nice expressions on their face. Cutting off the frontal lobe makes them void of any emotion & the patient/victim definitely didn't have any positive facial expressions after having this barbaric procedure performed on them, making it obvious that the "before" pics are really the "after" & vice versa.

    Baron Simone Von Bianco
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I may have probably a very small medical knowledge, but one thing for sure that I know is that if you perform lobotomy on a human patient this affects undoubtly in the worst ways also his intellect, so it's pretty near to impossible that the above subject went anywhere near to a night school. Lobotomy isn' t a magical reset procedure, it's a serious brain surgery with too many unwanted side effects that doesn't "turn your life around"...or maybe yes, turns you from a dangerous, ill individual into a being with the same rational power of a coffee table.

    Ashley Taylor
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sure there were files on each person and daily documents. The doctors didn't care how patients looked...but they looked different after their mentality changed

    James Keane
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the side effect is not feeling like your gonna blow up popping to night school and working sign me up,

    Natalia Natalia
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly I thought the lobotomy photo was the one on the left...?

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    3 years ago

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    What Did Lobotomies Do?

    There were many factors why this surgery was deemed acceptable by mental institutions back in the day, mainly because there was no medication or therapy effective enough to treat people who suffered from various mental illnesses. And with electroshock therapy being already in use, this invasive operation didn’t shock people. However, the misinformation and active campaigning for the effectiveness of lobotomy had a significant impact, too.

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    Walter Freeman helped popularize this procedure in the US, becoming one of the most hated doctors. With no surgical training, Freeman decided to change the operation, and instead of drilling holes in the skull, he stabbed the patient’s brain with an icepick through the eye socket. 

    Walter Freeman’s lobotomy was an updated method to the point where it only took him 12 minutes to perform it. He traveled around the country in a van called the Lobotomobile and had no problem performing it in non-sterile environments.

    However, he and other doctors who performed this procedure often overlooked the gruesome side effects lobotomies caused, mainly focusing on the appearance of the patients and relieving the discomfort the illnesses had caused to their family members.

    This attitude is highlighted in the lobotomy pictures that Freeman took of his patients. He used these before and after lobotomy photos as an argument in favor of the procedure. Scroll below to see the disturbing images.

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    Before and after lobotomy: two portraits of a woman.

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    Caroline Huot
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    they 'make nice household pets' OMG!!! This is SO sad. :(

    Niito
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More like terrifying... poor people

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    Andrea Bernier Hall
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Holy hell. Someone better hold me back! This is beyond, beyond, beyond wrong! And to think that people became so brainwashed into thinking that this was a normal, acceptable "cure", that the practice kept going!

    Adam Taylor
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    6 years ago

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    they are doing the same today only through social egineering

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    Nomadus Aureus
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    what the absolute f**k do you mean by 'household pet'?! :-O

    Ajay H. Hiser
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That use of the term "PET" is just nuts on every level

    Matt Richardson
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They make nice pets? Pardon me? If I want a pet, I'm getting a dog.

    CrazyCatLady
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Make nice household pets... wow!!!

    Enuya
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, God, this is SO wrong in so many ways...

    Ajay H. Hiser
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That use of the term and practice "pet" is just nuts on every level

    Sophie Warner
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We treat our pets better than that! Horrifying! Especially as someone who has experience of mental health issues. I just wish I could say honestly that "we have come so far since those dark days", but it wouldn't be the truth.

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    Before and after lobotomy images showing a woman's transformation over time.

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    Rowlie
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All of the faces on the right are so devoid of thoughts, feelings, personalities. Something between zombies and Stepford wives.

    Misterscooter
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it is easy to project that onto the picture since we know it is likely true. If you saw the picture without any context, it would probably be different.

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    penis crack
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    electroshock therapy? terrible.

    Sig Retterer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look how happy and healthy she looks in the second picture! Clearly lobotomies are safe and effective for everyone, and doctors would never lie to us or use experimental medicine on people even though there might be other treatments available! Normalcy through lobotomy! Follow the science!

    'Asia Dąmbska
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "she has continued well for 6 months" and what after 6 months?! :o

    Andrea Jones
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "She continued well for 6 months" Does that mean she then died or became mentally ill again? either way it isn't great!

    Cat person
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It says "She HAS continued well for six months", meaning that at the point when the article was written, only six months had elapsed so they didn't know anything past that

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    Uncovering A Dark Chapter In Mental Health Care

    Before and after lobotomy images: patient with schizophrenia showing emotional change post-surgery.

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    Notsoboredpanda
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This breaks my heart. Imagine living in these times. When you just need support. 💔

    Martha Meyer
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Schizophrenia isn't curable with justsupport. It requires heavy duty medication they didn't have back then.

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    rhyan lumilay
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How come that all of them appears to be well after the lobotomy? As far as I know there are big percent of them getting worse or died from the injury they sustained in the eyes and internally.

    Basil
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It appears that (according to Wikipedia) during the 40s the procedure only had about a 5% mortality rate. That's not surprising, it wasn't a major surgery. A thin instrument through the eye socket, stir the brain around a bit- not of opening up the body. Bit the consequences after- conditions worsening, suicides, people losing their personalities and intelligence- those were the real consequences.

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    Valerie Fawn
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well the first picture shows that she's obviously being held against her will so duh I would be upset looking as well, the second she looks like she's high and not any thoughts happening in there. Still no free will really. So sad and messed up.

    LoneWolfie
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is simply terrifying. People scare me. Our society was/still is cruel.

    AnnaPanda
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Forcing women back then, forcing women now. The fight for human rights is far from being over..

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    Jaclyn Castek
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mean she does look better in the second picture, thought mental health is much more complicated and we can't possible know the whole story (before or after) by just looking at a picture.

    Marie Catherine Fishwick
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh that poor girl, you can see shes mortally terrified! This was probably taken in the "Operating room" just before she was forced to undergo the vile procedure. Its so heartbreaking.

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    Three women showing lobotomy effects: one before, one bandaged after surgery, and one post-recovery.

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    Kelly Horrigan
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I want to upvote every picture but it is hard. It feels wrong to up vote - but I will because they deserve to be seen simply for the horror they endured.

    BusLady
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The middle photo: she doesn't understand why this has been done to her.

    Tyler Molnar
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At least they coukd fake a smile afterwards

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    Before and after images of a woman who underwent a lobotomy, showing her facial expressions and hairstyle changes.

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    BusLady
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Went from a woman to a little girl.

    Marie-Louise Chenois
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bill Hadley, being a totaly inhuman being, just being able to walk and smile and not understanding anything of what is done to you, what is life, what is everything....That's not a life.

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    Basil
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are always going to be people who would rather have those who are different be brain dead then dare to lead a different looking life than the majority.

    Sig Retterer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look how happy and healthy she looks in the second picture! Clearly lobotomies are safe and effective for everyone, and doctors would never lie to us or use experimental medicine on people even though there might be other treatments available! As Lurch would say: "Neat! Sweet! Petite!"

    Donna Glaser
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes she looks like a child after the barbaric treatment! Probably has the mentality of one after treatment.

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    6 years ago

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    Basil
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You know what? There are times when it isn't just inappropriate to always look on the bright side of life, it's downright unwelcome. THEY SCRAMBLED PART OF HER BRAIN. SHE'S NOT SMILING, SHE'S DROOLING ONTO HER SHIRT.

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    Fabio
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    From sad lady to punk rock mf 🤟

    Ubaldo Gonzalez
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    lol went from understanding the world to can I help you at McDonalds!!!

    Fabio
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    From woman to punk rock mf 🤟

    Sophie MacEachern
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this stuff dosen't make people better it makes them disabled

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    Before and after images of lobotomy, showing a man with glasses on the left and a shaved head with a cigar on the right.

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    Kelly Horrigan
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cured his eyesight? And then started to smoke

    David Larrow
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The frontal lobe determines our personality to a large degree

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    Tara Axl-rose
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How did his head go from rounded to narrow & longer? Did they change his head shape as well???

    Amber
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    His head is shaved and his mouth is open inbthe 2nd one.

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    Chris Gifford
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't be the same guy, shape of head is different, jaw narrower on right, eye shape is different, not to mention the color of his eyes has changed?

    Marie Catherine Fishwick
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thats what I thought! But his nose looks the same. This whole thing is just and terrible and i am still amazed the last legal U.S lobotomy was done in 1967!! Thats only 13 years before i was born. Holy s#*t!

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    Id row
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Side effects may include looking like an insufferable douchebag.

    Suf Suffer
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm Googl with the words "lobotomy" "flattened head" "narrow head" ... Is this the proof here?

    Teleri Nyfain
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    not much difference here - although the 'before' pic looks more respectable...

    Mike Miller
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My God! Once a hard-working lawyer, now a Mobster! Well, same thing.

    Mama Panda
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow made him into a whole new man

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    Before and after lobotomy photos showing changes in a woman's appearance and demeanor.

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    Basil
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Bra not doing the job of making your wife feel like she is somehow innately incomplete and flawed in her natural state of being? Is she now also getting wild ideas about perhaps women not having some sort of built in natural inclination to want to cook, clean, and child rear? No problem! Just book her into the nearest mental ward and have the nice all-male doctoral staff make a completely random brain slurry out of her frontal cortex and she'll be back to washing windows and fixing you cocktails in no time!"

    Donna Glaser
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well! Thank God she could go back to cleaning house! I bet her husband was happy! (ugh!)

    Sig Retterer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look how happy and healthy she looks in the second picture! Clearly lobotomies are safe and effective for everyone, and doctors would never lie to us or use experimental medicine on people even though there might be other treatments available! (OK, admittedly she looked happy and healthy in the first picture as well... Ah, what the heck? It's for science!)

    Marie Catherine Fishwick
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A. candid cute shot before lobotomy B. Posed photo with a big smile probably taken before lobotomy. As we know you could be given a lobotomy for (been a rebelious teen) (Gay) or even Anxiety and depression after childbirth!!! WTF was wrong with these evil doctors in the 20th century 😑😒🙄.

    Mae Mosse
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doesn’t look like the same woman. Eyes are different. Face shape is different

    Kmove
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know a few people that could use a lobotomy!

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    Patient before and after lobotomy treatment, showing significant changes in appearance and demeanor.

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    Vilkas
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Man, those must've been 49 rough years.

    BusLady
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the left photo, she looks very sleep deprived. Poor lady.

    Vic Fer
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    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They must’ve lied about the age or maybe ppl aged badly back then. Also if she was that sick all her life, I’m sure the stress of the illness took a toll on her. Just look at how we can age or look beat up after a prolonged period of extreme stress even if we don’t have mental illness.

    Ky Mansell
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This procedure probably made patients braindead and that’s why some look like happy go lucky

    Basil
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think she just has light colored hair and is dressed in old timey clothes. Her hair and clothes just look like a middle aged person of the time period. Also, she is 50 in the second pic. I also read weight gain was a common side effect of lobotomy, which would explain the change in her figure. Yes, people would have looked older sooner then, because cultural expectations around aging were different. But she's not defying science- she's not covered in wrinkles or anything. She just looks, because of the time period and styling, like what a lot of us associate a Grandma to look like.

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    John Gonzalez
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She doesn't look 49 more like 69! Maybe that's why she got a lobotomy, she thought she was 49 when she was actually 69.

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    Lobotomy: When Science Went Too Far

    Before and after images of a lobotomy patient showing facial expression changes post-surgery.

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    tarebear
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Subject yo compulsive seizures but made no complaint" so since she didn't complain it was totally fine that she randomly seized

    Carrie Hill
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And something is still obviously wrong with her eye! So instead of addressing that problem they just disabled her? F*****g horrible!!!

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    Kelly Horrigan
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    after ice pick - still not interested in doing anything but now happy about it - oh and the new seisures....This Is Totally Insane!

    BusLady
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gee, she was much better off before. How is this considered to be an improvement? From both photos, you can tell there is something wrong with the right eye. There could have been a tumor causing the pain.

    Lili Képes
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had the same thought! They could have had their hands busy curing the real problem, but it was easier just to switch of the alarm light. Poor woman...

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    Andrea Bernier Hall
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wanna make that annoying family member stop complaining about a little pain? The answer is: stick an icepick through their eye socket (that'll cure that eye pain, right), poke around in their brain, do a little slicing and dicing, and they'll be good as new!

    Sandra Kuus
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After they stabbed her in the eye, and scrambled her brain, she no longer complained of eye pain...

    Jill Pulcifer
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love how they add the "constant complaint of painful eye" like its all in her head when you can see on both photos her right eye is abnormal. Poor woman, I wonder if she didn't complain because she had lost the faculties to do so, or if she was afraid they would do it again?

    Maria Rohlen
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "If I complain, what will they do next?"

    Pamela Scott
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poor thing probably was not able to complain. If she did have enough left to complain is must have been terrified of what they wold do if she complained

    Terri Rimmer
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She made no complaints because you killed that in her. I had a 4th cousin who went through shock treatment and was sent home too early. My mom called the shrink and told him so. He said she's fine. She killed herself the same day.

    Sig Retterer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whoops! Yet another one-off... Of course she made no complaints... The speech center of her brain was destroyed and turned into jello... jello... jello...

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    #12

    Before and after images of a woman showing the effects of a lobotomy procedure over a five-year period.

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    Robert O
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The photo on the right reminds me of someone... movie star? Author? ... can't recall who.. now just bugging me

    Chloe Mannix
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is Rosemary Kennedy. They labotomized her for being a party girl. How ffff bloody tragic

    K C
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel like a lot of people didn't read the caption to this one. Both pictures were after a lobotomy.

    Sig Retterer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That Moniz was a hack. He didn't even own a lobotomobile!

    Julian Galpin
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    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good lord! She got fat and masculine. Looks like a fat spoiled teen

    Mia
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She looks a LOT like Annie Wilkes. This is off topic, I just noticed that.

    Donna Glaser
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She looks very angry after the operation. And certainly mentally impaired.

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    #13

    Lobotomy before and after images of a man, displaying changes in expression and demeanor.

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    Kelly Horrigan
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In 1940, struggling economy, job anxiety. Poke your eye with an ice pick. Tah Dah!

    Bill Hadley
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually no, you don't 'poke your eye', it's transorbital, not through the eye.

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    Sophie Warner
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Six months without a client"- so it didn't solve the job problem then? I am shocked!

    Slune
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Let's Icepick all the jobless,so they don't have to worry anymore .......!!!

    Michelle Edmiston
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lobotomy.. come and get it! It’ll make you happy healthy and wealthy.. so why not give it a shot? Wtf

    Florence Hastings
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG! What ever you do don’t tell the politicians that it’s a cure for unemployment!

    DuckMan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poor man was in a coma till the hero lobotomizers saved the day.

    Sig Retterer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gary later went on to fame and fortune with musical hits "Love is Alive" and "Dream Weaver".

    Stina Kolling
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wonder what is meant by "6 months without a client". Was the doctor complaining that nobody was looking for mental-health-via-icepick-to-the-eye? Not something you'd put in a sales brochure.

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    #14

    Before and after lobotomy photos showing changes in a woman's demeanor and expression.

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    Rowlie
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    6 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, so efficient! Even her teeth grew back

    Living_Shadow
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another example of how the doctors only cared about the patients appearances afterwards for advertising

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    Feelin’ Memes
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If she’s hungry right after she eats, I would be a bit worried.

    BusLady
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No telling why that was. When you start digging around in people's brains...

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    Sig Retterer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look how amazingly more happy and healthy she looks in the second picture! Clearly lobotomies are safe and effective for everyone, and doctors would never lie to us or use experimental medicine on people even though there might be other treatments available! Stunning success! Flawless victory!

    Allah Akbar
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Looks like she's smoked too much meth

    Azure Adams
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That does not appear to be the same person

    Mama Panda
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's amazing what dentures do for a person's looks and attitude

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    Mike Miller
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    6 years ago

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    I've been agitated for 20 years: ever since I was married. Maybe I need a procedure.

    Basil
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think your wife needs one. Parasite removal.

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    #15

    Before and after images showing effects of lobotomy procedure on a man's facial expression.

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    Nia Loves Art
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    His face shape completely changed …

    Nosfentor
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The photo has been distorted.

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    Jacquie Gariano
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I took care of a man in the VA hospital about 10 years after WW 2 who had had a lobotomy for violent behavior. He looked like this, but if you looked closely at his eyes, he was thinking "if only I could get up the energy I'd kill you" Very unsettling, very

    wendy turner
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "surely the scientists erm i mean doctors deemed it far better to lose hair rather than remain skitzo"

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    Donna Glaser
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    His face got longer. There is no life in his eyes.

    Basil
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The second photo's aspect ratio is messed up. Also, the apparent bathrobe in the second pic can't be a good sign.

    Monday
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are we sure this is the same guy? His bone structure is suddenly different.

    jglow
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The before photo, I see that his brows are tightly furrowed either in an angry or worried, but definitely holding much tension there. After lobotomy, he appear relaxed in the brow area, but it's definitely the same man.

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    Mindy Megas-Loucks
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's no way these are pictures of the same guy.

    DuckMan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    he was so angry until the incident.

    Sig Retterer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sylvester went on to become a major success in the film industry, starring in the "Rocky" and "Rambo" movie franchises.

    Suf Suffer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm Googl with the words "lobotomy" "flattened head" "narrow head" ... Is this the proof here?

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    #16

    A Haunting Glimpse Into Medical History

    Before and after lobotomy comparison of a patient lying in a hospital bed.

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    Enuya
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lobotomy, electroshocks and tying to bed. It's so hard to believe that we were so barbaric less than one hundred years ago. I know that even today the treatment of mental illness is far from perfect. Still, I am so grateful that I live today, not few decades ago.

    Sarah Kohrmann
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ECT (electric shock) is still used aND has been shown to have some success with treatment-resistant depression. The differences today are that patients must consent first and they are sedated so it's not painful

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    BusLady
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He's smiling because he's no longer tied up, after 2 years.

    Feelin’ Memes
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Human torture. Just for having a mental illness. Cruelty

    wendy turner
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    not even for "mental illness most of the time.

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    John Madison
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hard to imagine the Kennedy's had one of their sisters lobotomized, kept in an institution. Nahhhh, it ain't hard to imagine.

    youre2much
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We still tie people to the beds in some instances. Leather straps with buckles, but the side that touches the wrists/ankles is made of soft materials. They are called "Gentle Reminders" now

    wendy turner
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    indeed,. dont forget what happens if-when one refuses "treatment-injections

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    Vic Fer
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    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And to think that just a small pill or two could’ve avoided all this savagery. Thank God for today’s medicine. Is not perfect but much much more humane

    Jacquie Gariano
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We still had state hospitals in 1960's that warehoused people like this in very primitive ways and the care and treatment was inhuman. .

    DuckMan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't believe they removed the zest.

    Sig Retterer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look how happy and healthy he looks in the second picture! Clearly lobotomies are safe and effective for everyone, and doctors would never lie to us or use experimental medicine on people even though there might be other treatments available! "Look, Ma! No restraints!"

    Valerie Fawn
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would act cool too, just so they wouldn't do more messed up stuff to me

    wendy turner
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    hard to "act cool when ones Spirit is crushed.

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    #17

    Person lying on a bed after lobotomy, exhibiting behavioral changes, ten days post-operation.

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    Valerie Fawn
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gives me a neck ache just looking at this

    BusLady
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An odd place to put that electrical cord. Looks dangerous.

    John Madison
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm thinking this should be standard operating procedure for MOST of those in prison.

    AnnaPanda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definitely for the murderers, pedophiles and rapists

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    Sig Retterer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whoops, another one-off! Who left that suicide cord plugged in the outlet there? Knucklehead psych-tech...

    Nikki
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But what was even "wrong" with him? Acting weird and having strange mannerisms should lead to a lobotomy =(

    Spooko Akira
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    he was schizophrenic my man, it dosen't justify the lobotomy but there was something seriously wrong with him.

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    Spooko Akira
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    he was a 17 yr old boy suffering from schizophrenia.

    Donna Glaser
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Shaking my head. Obvious failure.

    Andres Rogue
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "draw me like one of your french girls"

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    #18

    Before and after lobotomy comparison of a woman's expression changes.

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    Jen Powell
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How do they even do a second lobotomy? You only have two halves to your brain. :(

    Basil
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol. I think you are overestimating the scientific-ness of this operation. If they can wiggle a knife around in your brain once, I'm sure they can just stick it in and wiggle it around a little deeper or in wider circles again a second time.

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    morgan jeffries
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Quick get out the pickaxe. She has a strained expression!

    Mindy Megas-Loucks
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    32?!? She looks older than my mom did at 60!

    Melonie Owens
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If that's what they did for a 'strained expression' I'm horrified of what the cure for my chronic Resting B***h Face would have been.

    Donna Glaser
    Community Member
    6 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She was pretty once. Imagine having TWO lobotomies! I bet she as left with a child-like mentality.

    wendy turner
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    her voice probably changed also into one of a "little mouse".

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    Pamela Scott
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lord they did it twice. No longer bothered, poor lady was no longer able to recognise fear!

    wendy turner
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yea i bet she didnt even flinch if someone brainwashed threatened to slit her throat,. she would probably quite welcome the freedom.

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    Daniel Gonzalez
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    From being an operator, to being operated on...how ironic.

    Roger Haywood
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She's now a quizmaster on 'The Chase'. (UK)

    Sig Retterer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look how happy and healthy she looks in the second picture! Clearly lobotomies are safe and effective for everyone, and doctors would never lie to us or use experimental medicine on people even though there might be other treatments available! New Year's Special: Buy one lobotomy, and get the second one for half price!

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    #19

    Two images showing a patient's face before and after lobotomy, illustrating the procedure's effects.

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    Andrea Bernier Hall
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh look! She learned how to smile! No practice needed. Just a little poke here and there, it's really no big deal at all!

    Monday
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well she was catatonic before. In the eyes of her family any independent movement is probably better than none after that.

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    James Keane
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She hit the sunbeds after her op..

    Sig Retterer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look how happy and healthy she looks in the second picture! Clearly lobotomies are safe and effective for everyone, and doctors would never lie to us or use experimental medicine on people even though there might be other treatments available! Remember: Money can't buy you happiness, but it CAN buy you a lobotomy, which can bring you happiness! Be sure to drop by the lobotomobile next time we're in your town!

    Florence Hastings
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t think that’s the same person! 🤔

    Anna McGann
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did they throw in a complimentary sex change as well? :/

    K C
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What are you even talking about?

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    Sig Retterer
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Breaking news!: Man fully transgendered via lobotomy procedure!

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    6 years ago

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    They turned her into an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PERSON!

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    #20

    Before and after lobotomy comparison showing weight change and facial expressions.

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    Clovis Lowell
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We now know how to fix underweight people. A hammer and an ice pick.

    Jennifer Clark
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She probably lost impulse control from the lobotomy and kept eating.

    Basil
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, I think that has to have something to do with it. The Wiki on lobotomy says weight gain was a side effect.

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    Reese Coffee
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The reason she gained weight is because a lobotomy goes directly effects your hypothalamus which is a region of the forebrain below the thalamus which coordinates both the autonomic nervous system and the activity of the pituitary, controlling body temperature, thirst, hunger, and other homeostatic systems, and involved in sleep and emotional activity.

    wendy turner
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i wonder if she lay whilst attempting to sleep with her arms crossed,. corpse like position?

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    Jacquie Gariano
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So her problem was low weight and they fixed it with a lobotomy??

    Spooko Akira
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, this caption was cut short. She was Schizophrenic.

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    Mindy Megas-Loucks
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Given that the first weight was 85 lbs., I wonder if this wasn't used as a treatment for anorexia.

    BusLady
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Obviously, the surgery did something to her appetite. One of the other ladies stated that she was still hungry soon after eating.

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    Spooko Akira
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The original caption that is cut short in this image is as follows: Fig. 59. Case 53 seven weeks after operation. This patient with schizophrenia of 14 months' duration weighed only 85 pounds at the time of operation. . Fig. 60 Case 53 Nearly three years after the operation when she had gained nearly 125 lbs. She was jolly and unrestrained, rather industrious about the house. She had only occasionally positions, lacking concentration.

    AnnaPanda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When women put some weight on they always look healthier, plump and happier for some reason

    Sig Retterer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hmmm... No change other than weight gain... She must have been a representative or other politician... Lobotomies don't work on them because, well... You know...

    Spooko Akira
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They cut the caption short, in the original image the caption goes into more detail about the results

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    Laura Enez
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a hard way to gain weight!

    Donna Glaser
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So the operation made her overweight?! No problem! At least she is smiling! Kind of.

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    #21

    Before and after images of a woman showing facial expression changes following a prefrontal lobotomy.

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    hashwadoobies
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    so much pain in her eyes in the before picture.

    Greta Toločkaitė
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    not necessarily, exhaustion from not getting sleep and proper rest looks more or less the same, and that is probably even more common in mental patients than actual pain

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    Naima Ivansdóttir
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Copy and Paste from Wikipedia: Walter Freeman coined the term "surgically induced childhood" and used it constantly to refer to the results of lobotomy. The operation left people with an "infantile personality"; a period of maturation would then, according to Freeman, lead to recovery. In an unpublished memoir he described how the "personality of the patient was changed in some way in the hope of rendering him more amenable to the social pressures under which he is supposed to exist." He described one 29-year-old woman as being, following lobotomy, a "smiling, lazy and satisfactory patient with the personality of an oyster" who couldn't remember Freeman's name and endlessly poured coffee from an empty pot. When her parents had difficulty dealing with her behaviour, Freeman advised a system of rewards (ice-cream) and punishment (smacks).

    Lizzy De Sousa
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually...I begged my doctors for one. After years of treatment, I still do. I'd absolutely rather feel nothing than absolute shyte.

    Brandi Gates
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this was just propaganda to convince families to pay these doctors hundreds of dollars to help their family members that were not meeting their milestones. I am sickened to say this is our history...

    Sig Retterer
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just wait for what they'll say about us 50 years from now! "Everyone was terrified of a virus that 99% of adults and 100% of children survived without treatment, so they let themselves be talked, bribed, or mandated into accepting a genetic treatment disguised as a 'vaccine'. It was the great purge of 2021, resulting in millions dying from strokes, heart attacks, cancers, or comprehensive autoimmune-system-triggered organ failures."

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    Major Houlihan Bear
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    6 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I highly recommend "the delusions of certainty" by siri hustvedt. This post is the creepiest sh*t - so frightening and tragic. Forkin' Dr Mengele style megalomania

    Sig Retterer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look how happy and healthy she looks in the second picture! Clearly lobotomies are safe and effective for everyone, and doctors would never lie to us or use experimental medicine on people even though there might be other treatments available! Post-lobotomy, she's completely worry-free!

    Robert Hislop
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Imagine all the ''transient'' people and Vagrants they tested on.Men and Women did this s**t to men and women.

    Clemm Dangerfield
    Community Member
    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd rather be sitting across the table from the lady in the first picture. She seems like she'd have a lot of interesting stories to tell. The one in the second picture just plain scares me

    Donna Glaser
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And look how thick her neck has gotten.

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