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Parents like to say that they know what’s best for their child. And who are we to argue? But in some cases, common parenting tactics, even if meant for the best interest of a child, can do more harm than good.

So recently, a thread on r/AskReddit got people weighing in on “normal” parenting tactics that shouldn't be considered normal. Even though discussing parenting with others always verges on the thin line of getting into an argument, some of the responses are truly thoughtful. Think of being protective and overprotective, or comparing a child to their siblings; how much of it is actually toxic?

#1

Refusing to apologize when you’re wrong.
Apologize to your children when you're wrong. Admit you don't know something when asked. Change your mind when your child gives you a valid reason. I grew up in an authoritarian household. ... It only teaches kids they have no voice.

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    Saying that a kid has a boyfriend/girlfriend any time they are close friends with a child who isn't the same gender. On top of reinforcing the idea that boys and girls can't ever be strictly platonic friends, it's so creepy to project adult ideas of romantic relationships onto kids who are practically still toddlers.

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    #3

    Telling your kids your personal problems. Like, 'Your dad is horrible; he didn’t even do the dishes. I hate my marriage.' Your kids are not your therapist. Also, they can’t do anything to solve your problem. Instead, address your issues with your spouse and a therapist.

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    #4

    'You can tell me, and I won't be mad' followed by punishing them for whatever they admit. Then they wonder why their kids never talk to them.

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    Being overly protective. If you don't let your kids fail or protect them too much, they'll be less capable of doing so once they've left home. Failure is good; just provide a safety net.

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    Getting mad for 'disrespect' or 'talking back' when their kids win an argument.

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    Using humiliation and embarrassment as a punishment.

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    #8

    Taking away their privacy. Unless your kid has a serious drug or self-harm problem, violating their privacy will almost certainly do more harm than good to their mental health, trust, and their relationship to you. It doesn't matter if it's installing spyware on their phones, tracking their movements, or taking away their bedroom door.

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    #9

    Telling little boys that they cant defend themselves against a girl who is hitting them just because theyre a girl. Thats bs, i was taught to fight back no matter who attacks you. Theres no gender in mutual combat.

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    #10

    Invalidating their kids' emotions, be it ignoring or shutting them down.

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    #11

    Making a child eat everything on their plate if they say they aren't hungry anymore. Do you want you kid to have an eating disorder? No, then don't because that's how you can cause one.

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    #12

    Forced affection.

    This is controversial (especially here in America) but I feel like we say “I love you” way too much to the point it loses its meaning. My dad (who was extremely emotionally abusive) used to force me to say the words “I love you daddy” to him, in private and in front of other people. By nature I have never been an affectionate person, especially in front of others. I don’t like to hug and kiss a lot.

    I also don’t believe in making children hug people. If the child wants to hug them, they will. It shouldn’t be forced.

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    #13

    Comparing them to their siblings. The good old, 'Why can't you be more like your brother/sister?' does nothing for their self-esteem and really can keep them from becoming their own person. That's all they should be anyway — themselves, not their siblings.

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    #14

    The old “as long as I’m feeding you, clothing you, you’ll do what i say!” Or the “just be grateful i put a roof over your head”.

    Specially If your parents constantly use that sentence to boss you around, disregard your opinions and wants, and belittle you. You didn’t asked to be born. And it’s their obligation to take care of you, not something they should loom over your head as leverage.

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    #15

    I’m not sure if this is “normal” or just something I see online.. but mums pulling the “just wait till dad gets home” card. Why would you want your kids to be afraid of their dad? And why should the dad have to play bad cop all the time? The last thing I want is my partner coming home from work and yelling at the kids for me.

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    #16

    Overly accommodating and praising children.
    My sister always excelled in academics and was also an accomplished pianist in high school. My parents didn’t make her do any of the chores I had to in order to 'preserve her hands for piano.' Her excellence at school, in clubs, and with piano also kind of led to her being constantly praised by people around her. Now, in her mid-twenties, she lacks basic life skills (cooking, cleaning, and even self-cleaning) and is unable to take any criticism, no matter how small.

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    #17

    Not explaining their decisions. Like, 'You have to do this because I'm your mom/dad, and I say so. End of discussion!' Instead, you can bring your kids on board with sooo many of the decisions you make for them if you take the time to explain your reasoning to them. Kids understand more than a lot of parents think — just give them a chance.

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    #18

    Making your female children change clothes when male family members come over.

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    #19

    Taking away things that the child has earned for themselves. If your kid is old enough to work and use that money to purchase something for themselves than it's thiers and you have no right to take it. I don't care if it's a car or a playstation 5.

    Same thing with the money itself. Just because your kid is old enough to work and bring home a paycheck doesn't mean you're entitled to that money. I personally had to open up a brand new bank account the day I turned 18 because my mother helped herself to over $700 of my money. When I confronted her she basically told me "[screw] you I'm the adult on the account so it's my money too!"

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    #20

    Forcing your children to give family members that make them uncomfortable, hugs and kisses. Additionally inviting family who actively distress your kid to your house to stay for an extended period and forcing the kid to be nice and interact.

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    #21

    Giving in when your child is being difficult. It teaches them all they have to do to get what they want is throw a fit. You're encouraging more difficult behavior.

    The correct way to handle it is sit in whatever storm they whip up. Stay calm and hold the boundary.

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    #22

    Invalidating their emotions just bc they're children, Cruel jokes ab their physical appareance or behaviour

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    #23

    Saying anything along the lines of 'just be happy.' Like thanks, my depression is cured — especially since depression runs in my family on both sides.

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    #24

    Gaslighting their children into believing things that are simply not true in order to defend themselves.

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    #25

    Being overly involved in your childs life. I'm talking about relationships. Your child should have their own relationships without the parent acting like the third wheel, and seeking validation from the friends or partner too. Being involved is a good thing, but when you are so invested in their relationships too it can be damaging to your kid and their future relationships.

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    #26

    Letting one sibling bully another and turning a blind eye, with the philosophy that they should work everything out for themselves. Punishing both siblings equally when one is 3 years older, much larger, much stronger, much more verbally sophisticated and adept at manipulation, and when the younger one complains, shutting them up by saying, "Well, did he put a gun to your head?"

    That's how you teach a kid to be a victim.

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    Jo Johannsen
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another side to it: the older sibling by 7 years gets her first record player. 5 year old sister gets exact same record player because "you have to be fair".

    Remi Flynne
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mine was watching my older siblings get record players at a certain age and hoping desperately that I would in my turn. Never happened. I didn't say anything, maybe money was tighter, but I can think of several examples like that.

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    Ozacoter
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or the opposite. Punishing the old sibling and not the young even when the young was the trounlemaker "because she doesnt know better". Thats how my sister got away with everything for like 10 years

    Caridina
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh I remember when my older sister started to scream like hell out of nothing, then get up, approach me and beat the snot out of me. The second I got to defend myself, mom came in and saw me fight back. Of course I got punished, every time. Years later I found out my mom knew very well.

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    Leo Domitrix
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Make this number 1, please. My sister (and only sibling) was 5 years older. I was 2 when she started. I couldn't make a sentence; she could write words. What was I supposed to do? And the pattern never stopped as we got older. "Get along!" was what I was told. "Get along! Why can't you get along!"...TLDR : If your kid is bullying your other kid.... look in a mirror to answer WHY. Squabbling isn't the same as bullying, and bullying is not squabbling. The end.

    Remi Flynne
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ugh... how dare you not be as far advanced as your much older sister!! We were told 'you're all weird, other children get along so why can't you'. Sad thing was that we were all actually far better than she had been with her siblings and most other families that I've seen since! We only had minor squabbles.

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    Evil Little Thing
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    3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS! My (2 yrs older) brother was relentlessly cruel to me throughout our childhood. My parents didn't know how to make him stop, and I guess they thought I was annoying or something(?) because they held me 100% responsible for avoiding/enduring his cruelty. Now we are in our forties and when he gets mad over nothing and throws things, then sulks in a corner, parents blame me. Not my fault he's a delicate man-child that has a melt down when his weird insecurities flare up. It's theirs and his. I've talked to the guy maybe ten times in twenty-five years - his issues are none of my business.

    Bella, Your Kitty-Loving Queen
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is too relatable for me. I had to wait until I was 11 to finally get a phone (I’m 12 now lol) and then my mom decided, well since I have a phone it’s only fair to give your sister one (my sister is 3 years younger than me) I was being bullied at school and I was begging for months to get a phone and I was thrilled to get an iPhone 12. Then my sister asks like once “mommy can I have a phone too?” And my mom just hands her an iPhone 5. I mean yeah her phone is old, but she can’t just be handed something to make everything fair. Because life isn’t supposed to be fair all the time, and doing this makes them think that it should be fair, when it really shouldn’t. Thank you for reading my long rant.

    Zenozenobee
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My son have twin school friends, their parents don't want to be "hostage" of their daughters trying to attract their attention with bad behavior, so they never interfer, specially when they fight. One of them is dominant and always get what she wants, so the other tends to "take revenge" when she feels the situation is unfair and she's not helped by her parents... revenge on the kids that she can dominate, like my daughter (2 years younger). And I'm a bad parent for interfering when my daughter is bullied, the kids must learn to find their way together. Well, I'm being a bad parent, that works for me...

    D. Pitbull
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My thing was... again... totally flipped. I'm the older one - and my younger sibling was FIRMLY raised to believe that I am a worthless imbecile. An irresponsible drain on the family, etc. etc... That I was just this spoiled, ungrateful demon... And they'd scold me daily for "not being active in raising" my younger sibling I'm the one who wore nothing but second-hand/hand-me-downs until I got my own job in Highschool wasn't allowed to get my license My younger sibling was the one who'd get the "you have to be fair" stuff... so whatever I DID end up getting... he'd get it too despite the fact that he didn't even want it. Not the other way though. He could ALWAYS get something and I was "older, so you should be more mature about this."

    Keely DENHAM
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    dont know if this relates but when I was on my way to school me and my brother were walking next to each other he was angry and I tried to ask him so he grabbed me and tried to push me into the road I was fine but I then called him a name ( I called him fat) when we got home I told mum he tried to push me in front of a car my brother told her I called him a name he was told you're fine now and I was told to go to my room so to recap my brother tried to push me into the road in front of a car and I called him fat I got introuble and he did not

    Fall Out Genderfluid
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For me, it was the opposite. My younger brother who was much stronger and faster than me (he played soccer and did a whole s**t ton more than me) and my brother got away with anything, and then I got blamed for whatever he did. He hid my da's wallet TWICE, and I got blamed both times for it and now I still have severe depression and self esteem issues.

    Holes2Heaven
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes! This should be number one!!! My three year older brother was my biggest bully. My mom would ALWAYS take his side and punish me for things he did not me! He ended up being so spoiled that he can't cope in life as an adult! He married a complete crazy lady who no one but my mother will interact with. My other brother, myself, my father, and all extended family refuse to be around her and a lot him too. They're drunks and drug addicts who beat their three children. It's so sad! DCFS doesn't do anything for those kids. Needless to say, he destroyed my childhood and I refuse to allow him to do the same to my adulthood. He's a POS

    Madb vonMesser
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My younger sibling was the bully. Everything they wanted they got, usually at my expense. If I complained I just had even more taken from me.

    Catherine Kane
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've seen the opposite- where the younger gets away with murder and the older is punished for the younger's behavior because the parents found the younger too much work to discipline

    Vladimíra Matejová
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    or when younger sibling is constantly provoking and the older one already tried everything possible and now doesnt know how to handle it anymore and comes complaining to parents. they just say you are the older one, solve it you should be smarter than him/her. or even worse they punish bothnof tgem when only one is constantly provoking

    Jane Alexander
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mom tried to be fair with the triplets. One Christmas they were about 3 she gave each a doll and a truck. One played with the doll, one played with the truck and one gave the doll a ride in the truck.

    Gabunya Matata
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    6 years difference here and my mom always said that she'd just let us fight and we should figure it out on our own... my brother was ALWAYS super tall and heavy and the fights didn't go well for me ( and i'm a girl... much smaller and much younger..didn't have fun "playing fights"..)

    Jazzy Mc. Jaz
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    omg my step mother said I get a phone when I'm 15 she gave me mine this year on Easter a and my birthday is in July and ill be 16 but i know she already has one for her 10 yr old who will be 11 this yr. at Christmas time last yr me(15) and my 2 stepbrothers(10 and 9) had to share a phone and there was 2 hrs a day for us all to share we also had a kid messenger and they would read my messages to my bf and joke about it. She didn't care but when they did it to each other she told them to respect each others space.

    Onion rings like to make your breath smelly
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    3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its the exact same with me, my brother, and my mom. My brother is always picking fights with me, and mind me, they get violent. He has the sharpest nails ever and uses them against my skin every. single. day. What does my mom do about it? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. She yells at me, and only me, because I "existed" so that means I have to be punished. Young sibling treatment shouldn't get this bad that I'm always crying because of my brother who is 4 years younger than me who is using this unfair treatment to his advantage.

    Sophie Delpas
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My brother always laughs when I cry and as if it wasn't bad enough, my mom never said objected and actually laughed along.

    Barbara Vandewalle
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had to earn every one of my privileges. My sister would get the same privilege with in 6 months. It was not fair her to wait to be the same age as I when I (5 years older ) earned the the privilege.

    Ang.stl
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When we were kids, my almost 4 year older bro wouldn’t have to start doing specific chores until I did. Make the bed: me-7, him-11. Clean room: Me-8, him-12. The only two subjects I ever got below a B+ in all through school was penmanship and AP Trig. Trig was made into a B because of the weighted scale, and they quit grading for penmanship by third grade. My bro? C’s and Ds for the most part that I remember, but somehow the prodigy child graduated a semester early. *I* graduated with a 3.89 GPA I think. I’ve never bother to ask his, but it’s obviously more impressive than mine, since he’s doing good to keep the same job as laborer-truck driver-heavy equipment operator fir a year at a time before he gets bored or pissed and changes jobs. But me being at the same job, working my way into management, for 10 years before I became disabled was a disappointment. Sigh. Whatever. I give up.

    Sarah
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So THAT'S how I became a woman willing to be abused by a partner. That was my situation exactly. One of the two spankings I got in my life was when my sister had been tormenting me endlessly (I was maybe 4 or 5, she was 3 years older), and she stole my toy tarantula that was on a long tube (with a bulb you could squeeze to make it jump). My dad got home just as I was yelling and crying about it. He made her give it back to me (without chastising her for stealing it). FINALLY, some justice! I smugly took my spider and turned away from her, letting the tarantula swing on its cord just slightly toward her face, but not close enough to cause harm. BOOM! Daddy takes the toy away, sends me to my room, and then comes in and says, "I have to give you a spanking. That was VERY dangerous! You could have put her eye out." ..... Lesson learned: It's OK to let someone steal from you; be a victim. Don't celebrate if things go well for you.

    Maria Ribaulo
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gotta be nice to your siblings. No one else is going to help you move!

    Deanna Crichley
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My grandfather always said, "beat you both...I got the right one". I still resent that.

    Axolotl King
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For me it's when they don't let us work anything out. Like me and my sis will be arguing and my mom or dad will intervene and tell us to just shut up and stop and that's the end of it. Well that's great but how are we ever supposed to work out our problems?

    Suzanne Haigh
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh gosh, so happened to me because he was so intelligent, not just clever but really superbrain, I still dislike him.

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    #27

    Not necessarily personal experience, but I do think it's absurd how often parents will speak of their own child as "spoiled" for having all kinds of nice possessions like video game systems, cell phones, cars, as if that wasn't entirely the parent's choice. If you don't think your kid should have those things for free, then don't buy them for the kid. Don't shower gifts on your child and then act like the child is a bad person for owning them.

    People have this obnoxious reactionary/conservative tendency to speak automatically about kids as if they're brats who don't appreciate the nice things they have. People look at a place full of 13-year-olds with expensive phones in their pockets and act like it's the downfall of society. It's just assumed, based on nothing, that all those 13-year-olds must be ungrateful and entitled and believe they automatically deserve an expensive phone.

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    #28

    Listening solely to other parents for advice. My mom listened to my grandmother instead of taking me to a psychiatrist. It wasn’t “a phase” it was autism and OCD. Now I’m in my 20s with trauma from the way my mental health was disregarded and autism leaving me more vulnerable to abuse. I’m left to navigate by myself.

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    Threatening to take away things and 50% of the time never actually doing it. Leads kids to live in a state of being unsure of what will happen. Take the thing away or don't.

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    Having kids before you've gone to therapy to address your own childhood trauma, as this just causes undue trauma on the kids

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    #31

    Lying/making up answers to questions that the adult doesn't think the child should know yet. Personally, I believe if a child asks a question he/she should be given a factual answer. Old enough to wonder about something is old enough to know the truth in my book. If you don't feel comfortable answering the question or don't think you should then say that instead of giving some make believe answer like babies come from storks. I watched a lot of discovery Channel and national geographic as a kid and at one point saw how birds reproduced, but still believed for many years that chickens reproduced by the rooster coming along and sitting on the egg after the hen lays it just because some soccer mom in car pool said that one day when another kid asked.

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    #32

    spanking kids

    all it does is teach kids to fear you/getting caught instead of them understanding why what they did is bad. i've seen all sorts of studies suggesting it has an effect similar to abuse.

    like if a kid isn't old enough to understand reasoning, they also won't understand why you're hitting them. if they're old enough to understand reasoning, just use reasoning instead.

    it just seems lazy, and portrays a harmful example of how to resolve conflicts

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    #33

    "I didn't raise you to believe in that/act like that/ etc."

    My mom has this deep rooted belief that anything and everything her grown-ass adult children do is STILL a reflection of her parenting. You can tell she really cares about what other parents think of her own parenting. Cares a little too much. This mentality is bad for both the parent and the kids.

    Far as I am concerned, once I am an adult, any choices I make or new morals I develop are 100% of my own decision making process. They do not reflect my mother's parenting at all. I wish she'd quit beating herself up when me or any of my siblings reveal we did something or believe something that she didn't teach us when we were children. And I wish she'd stop caring about what other people think of her parenting. Mom, all 4 of your kids graduated high school. 2 graduated college, 3 are married (same 3 have kids), and none of them have ever been arrested or abused drugs. You did good, Mom. Relax and enjoy your growing family.

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    #34

    Less of a parenting tactic and more of a tactic parents use: contriving a video (featuring their kid) to post to social media. It's super common, and I don't understand how so many people are fooled into thinking they're genuine.

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    #35

    Threatening to leave them somewhere if they don't come with you at once. Either you're not going to follow through on it, at which point they learn to not trust your word, or you *do* leave them, and prove to them that your love is conditional and capricious.

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    #36

    The classic "Stop being dramatic!" I was told this a lot. It tought me to bottle up my emotions with the other things my parents said like "No one cares how you feel" or "Get over your self!" Idk if this is me specific but my Mom is HELLA emotionally and mentally abusive and constantly manipulates others in my family to defend her when ever she was being called out for her [stuff]. The only reason I haven't taken a bath with a toaster yet is because of one of my brothers who was also heavily abused by her.

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    #37

    I find it weird when people brag about how their parents beat them as a child. They view it as a prestigious thing. I guess I’m too “privileged” to understand.

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    #38

    Using the police or the threat there of to controll your child. All that does Is lead to fear of the police and a lack of respect for anyone who can throw you in jail.

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    #39

    Telling your kids that they should be grateful just because they were brought into the world. It wasn't up to the kid, so you shouldn't hold that over their head.

    Also spanking, it just makes kids more likely to lie to parents and builds resentment.

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    #40

    In my culture, it has sadly become normal to put people down to achieve what they want. My mom even uses it on me while she didn't do that when I was a child (I think). And I'm 27!

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