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Parents like to say that they know what’s best for their child. And who are we to argue? But in some cases, common parenting tactics, even if meant for the best interest of a child, can do more harm than good.

So recently, a thread on r/AskReddit got people weighing in on “normal” parenting tactics that shouldn't be considered normal. Even though discussing parenting with others always verges on the thin line of getting into an argument, some of the responses are truly thoughtful. Think of being protective and overprotective, or comparing a child to their siblings; how much of it is actually toxic?

#1

Refusing to apologize when you’re wrong.
Apologize to your children when you're wrong. Admit you don't know something when asked. Change your mind when your child gives you a valid reason. I grew up in an authoritarian household. ... It only teaches kids they have no voice.

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Hans
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Respect is not learned by being told to "behave" but by being given respect. From day one on.

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Saying that a kid has a boyfriend/girlfriend any time they are close friends with a child who isn't the same gender. On top of reinforcing the idea that boys and girls can't ever be strictly platonic friends, it's so creepy to project adult ideas of romantic relationships onto kids who are practically still toddlers.

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Telling your kids your personal problems. Like, 'Your dad is horrible; he didn’t even do the dishes. I hate my marriage.' Your kids are not your therapist. Also, they can’t do anything to solve your problem. Instead, address your issues with your spouse and a therapist.

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#4

'You can tell me, and I won't be mad' followed by punishing them for whatever they admit. Then they wonder why their kids never talk to them.

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Roxy Eastland
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am sure I have as many parental failings as anyone else (possibly more) but I've never understood this one, even if a parent does stick to not being angry. I've always said to my kids that if they've wronged someone, by accident or on purpose, then that person has a right to be angry. Of course they also have a responsibility about how they behave, just because you let someone down or scratched their car or whatever doesn't mean they can now hit you or pour personal insults on you. But yes, they have a right to express how they feel and you have to accept that. It doesn't mean you're less of a person, it means you're taking it on the chin as you should. I then talk about how these things will come out somehow and that person will always end up angry at some point, and it's a million times better to be upfront and in control and deal with it as soon as possible, than for them to find out you've lied and hidden it from then. Boy, then they're really going to be furious.

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#5

Being overly protective. If you don't let your kids fail or protect them too much, they'll be less capable of doing so once they've left home. Failure is good; just provide a safety net.

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LeighAnne Brown-Pedersen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Failure is a great teacher. Frankly so is pain. To a point, if you don’t let them fail, they will freak out when they do, and they will.

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#6

Getting mad for 'disrespect' or 'talking back' when their kids win an argument.

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#7

Using humiliation and embarrassment as a punishment.

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Leigh C.
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's one thing to put a kid in someone else's shoes to show them shaming someone for being different isn't cool. But what this one means is it's toxic to actually cause traumatic humiliation and embarrassment for something like soiling the bed at night, or publicly shaming them just because they did something wrong at home.

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#8

Taking away their privacy. Unless your kid has a serious drug or self-harm problem, violating their privacy will almost certainly do more harm than good to their mental health, trust, and their relationship to you. It doesn't matter if it's installing spyware on their phones, tracking their movements, or taking away their bedroom door.

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Eslamala
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It will also lead to children learning very quick how to hide stuff and lie.

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#9

Telling little boys that they cant defend themselves against a girl who is hitting them just because theyre a girl. Thats bs, i was taught to fight back no matter who attacks you. Theres no gender in mutual combat.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

EXACTLY. I remember being hit by a boy in kindergarten, and the teacher told him he couldn't hit me because I was a girl. I was FURIOUS. 'I've got a right to be hit! I WANT TO BE HIT!' Long story short, my parents got called in along with the parents of the boy and there was a whole thing about it.

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#10

Invalidating their kids' emotions, be it ignoring or shutting them down.

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Making a child eat everything on their plate if they say they aren't hungry anymore. Do you want you kid to have an eating disorder? No, then don't because that's how you can cause one.

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Roxy Eastland
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That said, you have to allow that parents do know their children and they do know when a child 'isn't hungry' because they have a standard main course and can't be bothered, but half an hour later are going to be whining in the kitchen because they're hungry and can they just have some biscuits or crisps. There's a balancing act, this is why parenting is harding than it looks on the surface.

Becky Samuel
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We always had food available. It was a choice of plain wholewheat toast or with a scrape of Marmite, or a piece of fruit. It didn't matter what time of day or how close it was to mealtime, or even during a meal; the offer was always open. It wasn't enticing enough to draw us away from good food, but it was good enough if we really didn't like a meal, or were genuinely hungry. If the replacement foods are salty, sugary, fatty junk, then of course kids are going to prefer them.

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Eslamala
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My son hated food until he was 6 years old. Kid was already skinny, and it got to the point where he would only eat plain bread, drink orange juice and chips. We started giving him supplements, because he was clearly not getting enough vitamins and such. Never crossed my mind to force him to eat, cause I knew it would only make it worse. One day he just started eating. Everything. And I mean, everything. From meat to vegetables. Now he's 14, eats like a pro athlete (lol) and even though he's still skinny, I don't have to worry about him not getting enough vitamins

Leigh C.
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom wasn't like this but my step-mom was. She would just harp on us if we didn't finish the heaps of food she shoveled on our plates then wouldn't shut up if I couldn't eat anymore. I hate her so much.

Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And don't withhold food as punishment. Also a great way to start an eating disorder.

Gabbinzola
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed. Even prisoners get 3 meals a day and have the right to be treated humanely.

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J. F.
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or forcing kids to eat things they clearly don't like, when they are old enough to articulate the dislike of certain things.

GFSTaylor
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A friend of mine is obese, Apparently his parents only fed him one meal a day, so he learned to overstuff himself when food was available and his brain stopped recognising the 'full' signal from his stomach, because he had to keep overriding it.

Denise Melek
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My parents tried to do that. Worked very well. Had Anorexia and bulimia since I was 15 years old ( now it's under control, but I still hate being pressured to eat something I disgust).

James016
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is something we have had to learn, knowing when my son is actually full as opposed to him saying he is full because he wants to play on the iPad instead.

Allison Baker
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Had a big discussion with the headteacher of my sons primary school after he was told he couldn’t have pudding if he didn’t finish his chips! I pointed out that he was never forced to finish the food on his dinner plate if he was full of savoury. But was always allowed to have pudding if he wanted it. I also pointed out that the school dinner lady who was forcing him to finish his chips was morbidly obese whereas neither my son nor I were. This discussion led to a change in the school policy.

E Bytes
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also forcing a child to eat something on their plate that they don’t like. My babysitter would not let us leave the table unless we ate all our food. Guess what, zucchini didn’t agree with us and we all gagged it back up. Guess who spent a good part of thirty minutes, until our dad saved us by picking us up to go home, trying to swallow gagged/thrown up zucchini while crying. My siblings and I and her 4 autistic kids.

Lara Verne
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or making a child eat food they don't like. I'm not saying you should let children eat whatever they want, but don't force them to eat things they hate.

MyCatsTheRealPanda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get this to a point but you have to truly know the difference between them really hating something and just being picky. That's the hard part.

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CincyReds
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All I can say is peas. I had to eat all my peas, and I hated them!!! With my kids, all I would ask, was just try it, if you don't like, you don't have to eat it. Why would anyone be forced to east something that they hate!

Kt
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My friend had horrendous eatung habits because her dad did this to her. He used to force her to eat food until she was physically sick. For years she only ever ate plain foods.

JitkaBlitka
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh, we had so many bad experience with that from school when we were kids... my sister was once forced to eat everything and ended up vomiting it onto the teacher. She was never forced to eat again. I serve my kids everything what we have and they just eat whatever they want from the plate. I just want they at least try it before they reject it completely (how could you know you don't like it, if you never taste it), but if they really don't want, I dont force them.

RaroaRaroa
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup, our kid has always been told "don't feel you have to eat it all if you're full".

Jazzy Mc. Jaz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My step mother force me to eat extra of the stuff I hate and it's more than what she and her two yr old eat together.

Leila Orozco Francis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a parent, you have to know when your kids really aren't hungry or when they just don't want to eat what you put in front of them. Best option is to include your kids, if they're old enough, in your meal planning to minimize that issue. I came to know what my kids really didn't like and on those nights that I cooked that, I would let them make themselves something else.

Jackie Porter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mum did this with me. She would force me and my sister to eat everything on our plates especially the veggies we didn't like. She still continued doing this even when my sister complained about eating sprouts and telling mum she was going to be sick. Mum still forced the veg on her and my sister vomited all over the dining table. Both my sister and I are now morbidly obese partly due to mum drilling into us to eat everything on our plates. There are also mental health issues too.

Kaori Panda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thanks to this, I've got eating troubles now. I can't eat at the dinner table because I get panicked and feel trapped. I've got nightmares of being forced to eat until I throw up.

Mike Beck
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree if this is coupled with teaching them not to get more than they can eat. No wasting food just for convenience. I always had to clean my plate and my only "eating disorder" is that, occasionally, I'll get just one more bite...

Mark Kelly
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well it depends on how much they have like a pictures of a couple bites that’s a bit unreasonable.

Sue User
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't have obesity but I do have a food hoarding problem.

Al Jameson
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The best reason I ever heard for not doing this is, "If you don't let your daughter say no to peas, how will she say no to a penis?"

danielw
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Uhm, that logic is ridiculous. Children need to be taught to eat healthily. while I agree, that finishing off a plate, for the sake of finishing of a plate, if they're not eating veggies, and going straight to the carbs, fat, and sugar, then it's appropriate to set stipulations on eating right. That said, plomping on a big pile of peas with that stipulation is stupid. balance. On the other hand.... do you really need me to say it?

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AG
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can we add to this "you can only have dessert if you eat all your dinner!"? Talk about incentivizing overeating! Obviously there needs to be some sort of arrangement so your child isn't just eating ice cream, but there also needs to be a lesson that it's ok to eat a little less dinner to have the occasional dessert.

Don Garretson
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, eating disorders happen both ways; your child can develop one if you don't make them eat everything on their plate. My friend's 5 year old child will claim to be full, then a couple hours later claim to be hungry. She will throw her food away or hide it. He now doesn't give her any snacks if she doesn't finish what she is given. She is eating healthier, and eats less snacks.

Abigail Luscher
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was 10 and my mom was a cook, so she often made huge, high calorie meals. I was forced to eat everything on my plate, which was quite a lot. I was younger and had a faster metabolism so I didn't get fat, but I got sick cause of it a lot. Not only that, but my mom is overweight and constantly says how being fat makes her ugly. She would compliment my skinny body a lot, saying I was perfect. Flash forward-- I'm now 15. My body now got used to consuming meals the size of a person everyday. My body can't function without it, but my metabolism isn't fast anymore. I forced myself not to eat and my mom started complimenting how my body now had curves. No, that's my hip bones poking out because of how skinny my belly is.

Jesus Christ
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

when im not hungry anymore my mom saves the food for later (If its dinner, I could have it for lunch the next day, lunch, i could have it for the next day)

Barbara Vandewalle
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Parents put adult sized portions on the plate and then expect the child to adult portions. This does not allow the child to eat to full and then stop.

Leslie Burleson
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If done correctly and realistically, it's an ok thing to do. Don't fill their plate , or try to force feed them something they don't like ... but do give small portions of healthy options . Childhood obesity is still at an all time high. If it's a food they don't like, I don't think they should have to eat it, but they'll have to make themselves something else.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My father was very controlling and abusive, especially when it came to food and dinner time. Shaming children about what they eat and tormenting them over it, doesn't help anyone. In addition to a possible eating disorder, it can damage your relationship with your child for many years to come. My mother was pretty good with dealing with us not wanting to eat everything: She didn't get mad or yell or punish us, she just had a rule that if we didn't want dinner and we were hungry later, we could have some fresh fruit or make ourselves a PB&J sandwich. The option never included unhealthy snacks, so couldn't just skip veggies and eat junk food (as various folks have suggested). The other thing about how you approach it depends on the age of the child when the issue comes up. They may have a valid reason (such as digestive issues with certain foods--we found out years later that a couple of us were lactose intolerant). It shouldn't become a power struggle with an a, that doesn't nourish anyone. Besides, there were lots of (healthy) foods we loved that my father wouldn't eat, but as he was "the grown-up" he said he could do what he wanted.

Maria Ribaulo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can speak to this one. As a member of the 'clean plate club' I have struggled with obesity my entire life.

Richard Jordan
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Making them eat what they really and truly don't like also! I was forced to stay at the table until I ate all my beans & Not green beans which I love, (but, Legumes) I always said when I'm older I will never eat beans! I am 68 years old and have not eaten them yet! Now, I was a child who loved spinach, broccoli, cauliflower etc. Just NOT beans!

Bobby
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My youngest son says it all the time because he wants to go play instead of eat his fill, then come back to me an hour later saying he's "hungry again". We used to tell him he had to stay at the table until everyone was done, but he'd just sit there an not eat. Now we tell him dinner is dinner and there are no meals after that. Just started it, but we only had to tell him "sorry you already had dinner" the first night.

Vladimíra Matejová
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i think this depends on your child. if my parents didnt push me i wouldnt eat anything. of course if the child specifically dislikes certain food - mushrooms for example then dont push them. and dont push them to eat it all but at least part of it

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless they say that they aren't hungry anymore because of the food on their plate.

Robert Thompson
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you didn't finish a meal, you didn't get to eat until the next meal. Turning down healthy food and eating cookies in-between meals, is not "good diet." It is an "eating disorder"

Jenna Howe
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes indeed! And my folks had no idea how small a child's stomach is. It took me hours after they'd left the table to finish what they put on my plate. When I grew up it was decades before I could enjoy eating at a table. But I loved snacks. You can _stop_ eating snacks.

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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always took my own food so I knew how much I needed. I was also always forced to eat the veggies I didn't like, no excuses.

lara
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately, when parents do this, food becomes a weapon. And the child is the one in control. The proper response, when a child refuses to eat is, "OK." And that's it. No dessert, no snacks, just the next meal. And do not "save the food" to make them eat it again. Just ignore it. Do NOT turn it into a control thing. Let them know that there are mealtimes and they do not set the schedule.

MyCatsTheRealPanda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So instead the parent turns food into a weapon? No. Yes , you can't let a child completely dictate what and when they eat but you don't punish them if they are not hungry when you think they should be.

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The problem is today children are far too fussy, it is trying to find a happy median

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#12

Forced affection.

This is controversial (especially here in America) but I feel like we say “I love you” way too much to the point it loses its meaning. My dad (who was extremely emotionally abusive) used to force me to say the words “I love you daddy” to him, in private and in front of other people. By nature I have never been an affectionate person, especially in front of others. I don’t like to hug and kiss a lot.

I also don’t believe in making children hug people. If the child wants to hug them, they will. It shouldn’t be forced.

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Jo Johannsen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have an acquaintance whose son's answer to being told "no" is "I love you", like that should change the answer to yes.

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Comparing them to their siblings. The good old, 'Why can't you be more like your brother/sister?' does nothing for their self-esteem and really can keep them from becoming their own person. That's all they should be anyway — themselves, not their siblings.

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Shantelle Stratford
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I refused to be like my brother in school simply for that reason. My parents always used that line on me and I HATED it. Not just because my brother was a huge d**k head and a bully.

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The old “as long as I’m feeding you, clothing you, you’ll do what i say!” Or the “just be grateful i put a roof over your head”.

Specially If your parents constantly use that sentence to boss you around, disregard your opinions and wants, and belittle you. You didn’t asked to be born. And it’s their obligation to take care of you, not something they should loom over your head as leverage.

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Vasana Phong
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Isn’t it crazy how some parents have this mentality? It never even crossed my mind when I had my kids, did everything I was supposed to do, especially the essentials.

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I’m not sure if this is “normal” or just something I see online.. but mums pulling the “just wait till dad gets home” card. Why would you want your kids to be afraid of their dad? And why should the dad have to play bad cop all the time? The last thing I want is my partner coming home from work and yelling at the kids for me.

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enby from hell
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes! My parents always yell at me together. It's a team job. But it does have the effect of alienating neither of them. And I get my own back when it's my turn to lay the table--I give them sporks instead of forks.

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Overly accommodating and praising children.
My sister always excelled in academics and was also an accomplished pianist in high school. My parents didn’t make her do any of the chores I had to in order to 'preserve her hands for piano.' Her excellence at school, in clubs, and with piano also kind of led to her being constantly praised by people around her. Now, in her mid-twenties, she lacks basic life skills (cooking, cleaning, and even self-cleaning) and is unable to take any criticism, no matter how small.

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Susan Widomski
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was chastised because I was teaching my younger brother how to wash clothes and prepare meals after our mom died. He was only twelve, but I was ten years older. I felt like he deserved a boost to be able to fend for himself and clean up after himself.

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Not explaining their decisions. Like, 'You have to do this because I'm your mom/dad, and I say so. End of discussion!' Instead, you can bring your kids on board with sooo many of the decisions you make for them if you take the time to explain your reasoning to them. Kids understand more than a lot of parents think — just give them a chance.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a small step before explaining EVERYTHING about your decisions - sometimes you have to make a decision because otherwise your electricity will be cut off, and telling the truth will unnecessarily cause your child to worry about the household finances when they are much too young to grasp every nuance or be able to do a damn thing about it and becomes one of those people who watches every single penny well into adulthood even though they have a good job and a comfortable life. Sometimes "because" is the right answer to protect a child.

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Making your female children change clothes when male family members come over.

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enby from hell
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

wait what do people even do this??? I was only told to change if I was in PJ's!

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Taking away things that the child has earned for themselves. If your kid is old enough to work and use that money to purchase something for themselves than it's thiers and you have no right to take it. I don't care if it's a car or a playstation 5.

Same thing with the money itself. Just because your kid is old enough to work and bring home a paycheck doesn't mean you're entitled to that money. I personally had to open up a brand new bank account the day I turned 18 because my mother helped herself to over $700 of my money. When I confronted her she basically told me "[screw] you I'm the adult on the account so it's my money too!"

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Agamemnon Padar
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Happened in another way to my brother and me too. We inherited from an aunt each 2000 €. Parents never gave even a cent and spent all on debts them had run up. My brother was 15, I was 18.

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Forcing your children to give family members that make them uncomfortable, hugs and kisses. Additionally inviting family who actively distress your kid to your house to stay for an extended period and forcing the kid to be nice and interact.

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Deborah B
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If a kid doesn't want to hugged by someone they should be able to say "No thank you, I don't want to hug." And the adults can deal with their own offence/embarassment/ discomfort/ rejection. The burden of managing the feelings and reactions of adults should not be placed on the shoulders of a socially anxious ten year old.

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#21

Giving in when your child is being difficult. It teaches them all they have to do to get what they want is throw a fit. You're encouraging more difficult behavior.

The correct way to handle it is sit in whatever storm they whip up. Stay calm and hold the boundary.

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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My son used to throw huge tantrums when he was little. I always did the same thing: looked into his eyes, told him I loved him very much, stand next to him and let him cry. I never caved. I never yelled at him. I just let him have his feelings and when he was done, we'd do whatever it was we were doing. Worked like a charm.

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Invalidating their emotions just bc they're children, Cruel jokes ab their physical appareance or behaviour

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The worst thing of this type is probably mocking a kid for being forgetful. It's not like someone deliberately chooses to forget things, it's usually beyond our control. Mockery just makes it worse.

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Saying anything along the lines of 'just be happy.' Like thanks, my depression is cured — especially since depression runs in my family on both sides.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

THIS. Mental illnesses aren't just 'being sad' and 'being happy' isn't some kind of internal switch you can flick. See a therapist who knows what they're doing and take their advice. Also, eat chocolate. It encourages the production of endorphins. Also chocolate.

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Gaslighting their children into believing things that are simply not true in order to defend themselves.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You mean like telling them that people working in the fastfood industry do not deserve to earn a livable wage and they are some sort of lower species that doesn't deserve any respect at all.

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Being overly involved in your childs life. I'm talking about relationships. Your child should have their own relationships without the parent acting like the third wheel, and seeking validation from the friends or partner too. Being involved is a good thing, but when you are so invested in their relationships too it can be damaging to your kid and their future relationships.

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#26

Letting one sibling bully another and turning a blind eye, with the philosophy that they should work everything out for themselves. Punishing both siblings equally when one is 3 years older, much larger, much stronger, much more verbally sophisticated and adept at manipulation, and when the younger one complains, shutting them up by saying, "Well, did he put a gun to your head?"

That's how you teach a kid to be a victim.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another side to it: the older sibling by 7 years gets her first record player. 5 year old sister gets exact same record player because "you have to be fair".

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Not necessarily personal experience, but I do think it's absurd how often parents will speak of their own child as "spoiled" for having all kinds of nice possessions like video game systems, cell phones, cars, as if that wasn't entirely the parent's choice. If you don't think your kid should have those things for free, then don't buy them for the kid. Don't shower gifts on your child and then act like the child is a bad person for owning them.

People have this obnoxious reactionary/conservative tendency to speak automatically about kids as if they're brats who don't appreciate the nice things they have. People look at a place full of 13-year-olds with expensive phones in their pockets and act like it's the downfall of society. It's just assumed, based on nothing, that all those 13-year-olds must be ungrateful and entitled and believe they automatically deserve an expensive phone.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel this. One of my friends has severe depression and at one point she and I were travelling on a bus together. She was crying over her phone because her teacher had given her back an assignment she spent ages on and she'd got a terrible grade. I was comforting her, and this old guy yelled at us 'I don't believe your generation! No one here cares if you broke up with your boyfriend! Quit inflicting your noise on the rest of us!' So I yelled back at him, which only made my friend cry harder. We got off the bus a stop early and walked the rest of the way home.

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Listening solely to other parents for advice. My mom listened to my grandmother instead of taking me to a psychiatrist. It wasn’t “a phase” it was autism and OCD. Now I’m in my 20s with trauma from the way my mental health was disregarded and autism leaving me more vulnerable to abuse. I’m left to navigate by myself.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Downplaying issues and treating them as just a "phase" - oh, what could possibly go wrong?

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Threatening to take away things and 50% of the time never actually doing it. Leads kids to live in a state of being unsure of what will happen. Take the thing away or don't.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ikr, like when i was a kid and my parents used to do this a lot, I just never thought of it as a punishment anymore because i knew it wouldnt happen.

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Having kids before you've gone to therapy to address your own childhood trauma, as this just causes undue trauma on the kids

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have issues with my stepmother and I feel as though I would not pass that down if i had kids knowing this pain that it has caused.

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#31

Lying/making up answers to questions that the adult doesn't think the child should know yet. Personally, I believe if a child asks a question he/she should be given a factual answer. Old enough to wonder about something is old enough to know the truth in my book. If you don't feel comfortable answering the question or don't think you should then say that instead of giving some make believe answer like babies come from storks. I watched a lot of discovery Channel and national geographic as a kid and at one point saw how birds reproduced, but still believed for many years that chickens reproduced by the rooster coming along and sitting on the egg after the hen lays it just because some soccer mom in car pool said that one day when another kid asked.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I found my mum's pads in the bathroom bin when I was little and asked her about it, she gave me a perfectly age-appropriate explanation for periods and I was perfectly happy. No need to make up a ridiculous story or anything. Just be straightforward. Take it from a stranger on the internet with no kids.

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spanking kids

all it does is teach kids to fear you/getting caught instead of them understanding why what they did is bad. i've seen all sorts of studies suggesting it has an effect similar to abuse.

like if a kid isn't old enough to understand reasoning, they also won't understand why you're hitting them. if they're old enough to understand reasoning, just use reasoning instead.

it just seems lazy, and portrays a harmful example of how to resolve conflicts

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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. I started fabricated more lies that made sense and reason and they believed me. I never got caught. But then I realized that the problem wasn't getting caught, it was me doing the lies. So I talked to my dad about it, and he stopped the spanking and now resorts to leaving me to my own device and intervening when things get hectic.

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"I didn't raise you to believe in that/act like that/ etc."

My mom has this deep rooted belief that anything and everything her grown-ass adult children do is STILL a reflection of her parenting. You can tell she really cares about what other parents think of her own parenting. Cares a little too much. This mentality is bad for both the parent and the kids.

Far as I am concerned, once I am an adult, any choices I make or new morals I develop are 100% of my own decision making process. They do not reflect my mother's parenting at all. I wish she'd quit beating herself up when me or any of my siblings reveal we did something or believe something that she didn't teach us when we were children. And I wish she'd stop caring about what other people think of her parenting. Mom, all 4 of your kids graduated high school. 2 graduated college, 3 are married (same 3 have kids), and none of them have ever been arrested or abused drugs. You did good, Mom. Relax and enjoy your growing family.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh yes. "My Children Are My Mirror" narcissistic parent syndrome. Ugh. My dad was like that. Ugh.

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Less of a parenting tactic and more of a tactic parents use: contriving a video (featuring their kid) to post to social media. It's super common, and I don't understand how so many people are fooled into thinking they're genuine.

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Threatening to leave them somewhere if they don't come with you at once. Either you're not going to follow through on it, at which point they learn to not trust your word, or you *do* leave them, and prove to them that your love is conditional and capricious.

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The classic "Stop being dramatic!" I was told this a lot. It tought me to bottle up my emotions with the other things my parents said like "No one cares how you feel" or "Get over your self!" Idk if this is me specific but my Mom is HELLA emotionally and mentally abusive and constantly manipulates others in my family to defend her when ever she was being called out for her [stuff]. The only reason I haven't taken a bath with a toaster yet is because of one of my brothers who was also heavily abused by her.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP, please seek out someone safe to talk with about your feelings. The mentioning of self-harm is a clear warning sign that you are in need. Your regard for your brother is admirable but please do the work that will help you view yourself as worthy and necessary on your own account. Best of luck to you.

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#37

I find it weird when people brag about how their parents beat them as a child. They view it as a prestigious thing. I guess I’m too “privileged” to understand.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Spanking apologetics, i.e. "I was spanked and turned out fine." Or did you?

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#38

Using the police or the threat there of to controll your child. All that does Is lead to fear of the police and a lack of respect for anyone who can throw you in jail.

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#39

Telling your kids that they should be grateful just because they were brought into the world. It wasn't up to the kid, so you shouldn't hold that over their head.

Also spanking, it just makes kids more likely to lie to parents and builds resentment.

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In my culture, it has sadly become normal to put people down to achieve what they want. My mom even uses it on me while she didn't do that when I was a child (I think). And I'm 27!

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not sure what this means. Do you mean putting people down for achieving what they want? Or do you mean trying to make the child achieve what the parent wants?

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