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Who doesn’t love talking to a guy whose regard of womankind is slightly lower than that of stray dogs? They’re always sneaky, too, right? They won’t open up about their godawful views until you’ve sat down, had a drink or two, and have let your guard down.

When they’re nice and cozy, like the abhorrent parasitic tick, they show their true colors and just whale on you with the worst views ever known to humanity. Let’s look at some experiences that women have had with these “red-pilled” gentlemen.

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30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild Ex-lady, so take my input with a grain of salt as I am read as a man 100% of the time. But one thing I noticed after transitioning is that the type of men who would give me the heebie jeebies as a woman turned out to be WORSE than I could have imagined. When in the presence of other men they tend to say what they really think, and their hatred of women shapes basically their entire worldview. If you get that gut feeling a guy is a misogynist, chances are you aren't just right, but that he's even more of a terrible person than he's letting on.

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ConstantlyJon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your unique perspective is so vital to helping men understand this and call each other out.

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    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild Absolutely. To rephrase your question: "Ladies, has the increased chance of encountering men who do not see you as a person affected your attraction to men?" Yes. Yes, it has. I like being a person, and being treated like one is the minimum for any interaction. The bar for romance for me is way higher than that (as it should be).

    Honestly, I think straight women like me are the absolute proof you cannot choose your sexual orientation. I'd date women in a heartbeat if I had the tiniest romantic feeling for them. Men can be really f*****g scary.

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    Somebodys grandmother
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Totally agree. As a midwife have seen 1000's of naked women... i'm straight. Not one had turn me on... and yet men had scared me...

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    #3

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild I gotta say, I don't lose all hope for men when I see a post where a woman talks about her s****y experiences with men or male partners.

    But I **DO** start losing hope and respect for men when I see what they comment on those kinds of posts

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    ConstantlyJon
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men, let's just stop defending idiots. Please. Another guy can be stupid without anyone calling you stupid. Men can be stereotyped in a certain way without it being true about you. But also, sometimes we just have things to learn. I know I do! Let's chase humility through listening. :)

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    To get some insight from someone with a unique perspective into this topic, we reached out to Hannah McKnight, a returning interview guest of Bored Panda! Hannah has significant experience presenting as male and female, so she has witnessed how men behave behind closed doors.

    She has a mission - to talk about balancing life between genders, trans activism, social awareness, and everything that entails. If you’d like to find out more about her, make sure to visit her website!

    #4

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild Early in my current relationship I noticed a used tear gas canister on my partners shelf. Thought it was a little reg flaggy. Asked about it, during a George Floyd protest it was thrown near him (he’s a corn-fed midwestern white boy), grabbed it diffused it in a fountain and put it his backpack. At the end of the story he said something like ‘some people hang bucks/fish, I keep social justice trophies’. In grad school he testified against two male students in his program that were found to have harassed (19) and assault (3) women. There are good men out there that are true genuine allies that support women and POC. Hope red pillers choke on it

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    ConstantlyJon
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All these guys out here think they're badass, but that's actually the most BA thing I've ever read. Excellent social justice work!

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    #5

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild I'm married so it doesn't have much impact on me personally in my daily life. However, if anything were to happen to my husband, I'd be single and celibate for the rest of my days on this planet.

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    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild I've noticed, aside from redpill stuff, that society has become harder for EVERYONE to live in, but they act like it's only them.

    It's more expensive, people are working so much harder for less. Lonelyness is off the charts for EVERYONE. But they see that more women have community and support. They see women only shelters and suicide rates for men and think "Hmph!! Why do THEY get extra help?!" What they fail to see is women get these things because of other women. WE built these spaces, we volunteer, we go out of our way for others because of compassion and empathy.

    Men are the ones who see what we have and then want it too. I see so many men talk about having a girlfriend as if it will actually solve any of their problems, but it's all selfish. "I'll have some to love ME and raise my sense of self worth! To hug, to cuddle, to f**k, to cook and clean" providing for us is all they need to do, right? Wrong. We are also working people who have our own wants, needs, and aspirations. They come into relationships, incompetant about the give and take required. They want maid mommys.

    What they need is to do away with the toxic masculinity bs so many of them say they're oppressed by, work on their empathy, and make their own friends and community and stop trying to leech it from or destroy it for women. Litterally, just do better, be better. Actually put effort in, cause growth doesn't just fall onto your lap

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    Eva Intrav
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All of this. I still abide by the idea that "women are NOT responsible for fixing broken men." Sort your s**t out first before getting even remotely close to a women.

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    Hannah begins by talking a little about gender identity and her own identity in relation: “I'm a transgender girl. Identifying as transgender, in my opinion, is very inclusive and can cover quite a few different, albeit nuanced, gender identities. Being transgender doesn't necessarily mean transitioning, taking hormones, or legally changing one's name.  If I need to get more specific about my gender, I identify as bi-gender.  What this means to me is that I don't feel the need to, ah, commit to one gender identity or to one gender presentation.  Sometimes I am wearing a necktie and use he/him pronouns, other days I am strutting around a bookstore in a cute dress.”

    “Of course, gender is a social construct and gender isn't binary, but that is a topic for another time."

    #7

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild I am more fearful of men in general now. I’ve become more aware of how men see us, in a way I never was before. A lot of them seem to hate us. When your read the words they use to describe women, it’s like we aren’t even human to them.

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    zak
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's so much animosity and ego out there, in this regard and just in general. I think ego is the root cause of so many of society's ills, and I truly believe if everyone had one or two (preferably guided) powerful psychedelic experiences (mushrooms, dmt, etc), it would massively reduce the amount of hate and violence in this world.

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    #8

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild I honestly think it’s made me a lot more aware of early warning signs in a guy.

    Not too long ago I was casually dating this guy, he was very clean cut and put together on the surface, we got on well and the sex was okay but I didn’t mind because I figured it’d get better in time with communication.

    We stopped talking because I very nicely said I did like sleeping with him but if he could do more foreplay during sex it’d be great. He became a bit standoffish. Then started giving me the silent treatment but made it very obvious he was ignoring me and I was more turned off by how immature it came off across.

    Turns out he was a huge tater tot, followed a bunch of instagram accounts that posted his videos. One of the vids he saw was another red pill dude who very clearly had daddy issues say “If you give your girl the silent treatment, she’ll be so desperate for attention she’ll be reaching out to you”.

    He got PISSED that I didn’t do this and deleted me off everything lol.

    So yah, I’m lucky I have some genuinely amazing men in my life but it’s really made me more aware of subtle stuff.

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    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild I think, more generally, the internet has affected my attraction to men.

    Men seem to think everyone on the internet is a man, so they feel comfy saying all that misogynist s**t that apparently most of them believe very openly. The internet made 'locker room talk' public and I've been judging men for it since then.

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    Black Cat
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do men hate women so much. Yes I know a lot of women hate men too, but women have good reason to be resentful of men - being oppressed throughout history, being raped, randomly attacked, killed, treated as objects, having to severely curtail our basic rights to avoid being raped, killed etc. But why do so many men hate women??

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    She goes on to talk about how it may be difficult for some cisgender people to grasp gender identity: “Gender identity is a strange and difficult concept for some cisgender people to understand. I think much of this comes from an inability to relate to someone who feels the gender they were assigned at birth isn't quite right. I don't fault someone for not being able to relate to me. We all have different experiences and these experiences shape our opinions and feelings and thoughts. If you've never felt like the gender the doctor scribbled on your birth certificate was wrong, it's not always easy to grasp why someone would feel this way.  No, I don't expect anyone to understand me.  But I would hope, at the very least, you treat me kindly.”

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    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild It has made me very leery of dating, and if a man does anything red-pillish, such as trying to lower my confidence, pouf, I'm gone. Interestingly, it has made me reexamine my unconscious assumption of the desirability of being in a couple. I find being on my own, with the company of lots of platonic friends, peaceful, fun and fulfilling.

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    Pigeon (they/them)
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YES! Thank you! So many people don’t understand that platonic relationships can be just as fulfilling as romantic ones! It’s absolutely mind-boggling how many times I’ve complained about people acting like romantic relationships are above platonic ones and been met with “well they are.”

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    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild Women in the US and China have been taking dates to the Barbie Movie to "vet" against sexist men. Not to mention the drove of breakups that came after men saw the movie and showed their true colors to their now ex gfs.

    They always out themselves eventually.
    Women see it just... we don't really need men the way they need women.

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    ConstantlyJon
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "the way they need women..." ugh I cringe every time I read/hear something like this. the "men have needs" trope is just untrue at it's core. It's an excuse to be a pig. Guys, if you're a pig, instead of excusing it as if you are biologically incapable of self control, work on bettering yourself so that you can care about others for a change.

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    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild Absolutely. If a man uses any of that language/incel speak I immediately leave. I won’t entertain that. It can spiral quickly as well and I’m not interested in jeopardizing my safety in any way.

    I take care to not swipe on people who use incel dogwhistles in their profiles or who claim to be politically conservative or even moderate because men who are “moderate” have learned that if they outright say they’re conservative, they won’t get laid.

    Men get worse and worse each year. All men, I don’t even care anymore. Until a man proves to me otherwise with his actions and behavior, it’s easier to assume he’s dangerous and hates women. Men constantly say that women are emotional but I haven’t heard of a woman beating their spouse senseless because their precious football team lost. Even some men that I thought were “normal” got so huffy about the Barbie movie and instantly I understood that they simply hid their depravity behind their “normal” facade.


    Edit: ALL men. Die mad about it. I don’t care if that makes me sexist or a misandrist lmao.

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    ConstantlyJon
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't like the all men thing, of course, because that'd include me, but also I'm not up my own a*s enough to think that I don't have any room to grow or perspectives to understand. If someone has only ever experienced men as toxic, I know that me saying "yeah well this random person on the internet isn't like the men you've personally experienced, therefore you should trust men again" is stupid and not how any of this works. All I know is that I've earned the trust of my wife, and as a married man I continue earning the trust of both her and other women I have the privilege of interacting with. I don't know a good way to say any of this so I'm trying my best, and am willing to learn how if anyone has an answer.

    Irene VU
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The issue is there are too many men who are absolute POS. We cannot sort them out by sight because 99% of serial killers/rapists look like an average guy. There are no signs that make them stick out from the crowd. They are just part of the “all me “ fabric. And men who say, “Not all men” or “not me” are too often liars who are exactly like them and it IS them. Men make this BS hard all on their own.

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    Poppy
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When men say 'Not all men' ask them to point out which ones then?

    Ross “Sarcastic Dad”
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As I man, I totally get where your frustration comes from. I think saying "all men" makes it worse, not better, but I cannot fault you for it. I'm sorry your experiences have made you feel this way.

    Carl Oxley III
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know it may seem like all men, but it's not my experience. And, Being a man myself there are plenty of men I don't even want to be in the same room with, So it's not only women seeing the problem. Unfortunately even men who want to help can't get through to these redpill types.

    Tobias Reaper
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i guess i understand this if you have had nothing but negative experiences then it will make you think this i think we as men need to do better to prove people who feel this way wrong that we aren't all bad and not let some asshats make us decent dudes look bad

    Tommy DePaul
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you have had ALL negative experiences, what is the common denominator of all these experiences? Could it be . . . you?

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    Michael Collins
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Disclaimer: as a man - to me the "all men" thing comes down to a simple analogy about false positives. Imagine an early ancestor in prehistoric times. If this ancestor hears the rustle of the wind in the grass, and runs away, thinking it's a predator, nothing happens. If they hear the rustle of a predator, and think it's the wind, they're lunch. We are descended from people who thought the wind was a predator, because they weren't lunch. Similarly, in order for women to keep themselves safe, they have to assume that all men are dangerous. A false positive, i.e. assuming a good man is a bad one, has little consequence. Whereas assuming a bad man is a good one can be fatal, in a scary amount of cases.

    Tara L.
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most of it is about their ego, I'm so glad my husband does not have an ego like that. He doesn't have a lot of friends because other men (usually husbands of my women friends) will laugh at him & call him "p*ssywhipped" just because he helps me around the house & never yells or gets an attitude with me. He usually just shrugs & says "at least I'm not a walking a**hold" LOL. We don't go out much with other couples anymore, so many guys get offended by my husband not agreeing with them!

    Zaach
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would jump in and say "not all men" but that joke died about 20 years ago, sigh. Some good men exist - if you keep hitting the pile with a flail, the chaff will blow away and the kernels will be left (old farming reference)

    Ambitious Potato (she/they)
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read an article the other day questioning if anyone can truly be misandrist when they live in a society that oppresses those not male. Misogyny is different, because men don't live in a society ruled by women, they hate because they can, whereas women hating the system created by men is a full other category. It was fascinating to think about. (Obviously generalizations, and I don't mean to exclude non-binary or other folks who don't fit/belong in the categories of men or women. All the love to the LGBTQIA+ community :) )

    Tommy DePaul
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a Marxist argument. Same as blacks can't be racist because they are not in a position to economically oppress anyone.

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    brittany
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    idk, i think gay men and trans men are okay. never had an issue with them ever . only men ive ever had an issues with have been cis, conservative and vanilla colored. lol

    FeelingFrisky
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would like to have a nice gay man in my life. My long-ago best friend was a gay man. Died in 2017. Miss him madly.

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    josh
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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah saying all men just means you're sexist and are not allowing yourself to see reality clearly. Hope you or anyone similar puts some effort into becoming more educated about the topic

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    2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And that's why men hate women. I have a penis. It is not a weapon of mass destruction.

    Lena Flising
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    1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anger and hatred are also emotions. Side Note; in Sweden, the conservative party is called the Moderate Party, and our Liberal Party is definitely Right-wing.

    Melissa
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are a lot of people getting worse and the anger and and hatred is making everything worse. I appreciate the men who are good and trying their best but I also have encountered some pretty horrible ones as well. It is difficult to see through manipulators but they are not gender specific and I have had to remove some very toxic female friends from my life as a result of finally seeing how horrible they are. Same goes for abusers, the biggest abuser in my family was my aunt. She got away with it for decades, causing the sister she decided to have a vendetta against to lose her children when she was struggling instead of helping her. She nearly destroyed me and I had suicidal thoughts that began when I was 9. My recently ex best friend also used her husband for everything she could get and when she wasn't completely obeyed she would throw temper tantrums excusing it because she was the victim. She just didn't include the parts she played in causing the issues in the first place.

    Melissa
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her husband is a really good person and he did his best to make her happy, but even she said to me that she "doesn't compromise." That always stuck with me but she said it as though she was absolutely right in it. Turns out she kicked her husband out of the house he was paying for while continuing to use his credit cards and said he stole her camera when he left... which I later found she had borrowed from his mom. everything she said was either colored to make her seem victimized or was a complete lie. Oh and her temper tantrums would become physical. I watched her go from man to man since then all the time while preaching feminine superiority, although she means that she is superior and resents anyone who makes her question anything she says. She uses men and then throws them away as though they're nothing. There are female equivalents to the red pill men, she is one of them. The worst part for me is that she is also corrupting her children and emotionally abusing her friend's little boys. Her friend just allows her behavior because she has known her for so long and she gets a break from her kids when she leaves her boys over there. She isn't innocent because she knows what she is and still brings her children over, despite seeing how she treats her boys.

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    Strings
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Odd. I'm politically moderate (saying that because on most issues, I lean either way right or way left). And yet, I don't hate women, demean women, or treat my partner like a maid/mommy. Guess I'm an oddball (oh wait, I already knew that)

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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    usually (in my experience) when people say "all men", they don't really mean that they think all men do that, they mean that its easier to be on guard and assume a man would do that rather than pretending that they are safe in the company of men

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    Blue Bunny of Happiness
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know of women beating the c**p out of their husband/boyfriend for less reason than their team lost. All genders can be abusive and violent. We need to make it socially acceptable for any victim of abuse to be able speak out and get support. Yes, it’s more often men that are the aggressor, but let’s not ignore the non female victims too.

    Melissa
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    1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree, there are victims in all categories and none of them deserve to be swept aside as though they don't matter. I don't know why you're getting downvoted because there's nothing wrong with what you said. Female survivors (I am one) should be understanding of this because they know the pain that can be caused and no one should suffer abuse. I was also abused by my aunt so there absolutely are evil women out there, they don't deserve to get away with their s**t.

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    Little Pig Sister
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    6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah….I’m gonna have to disagree here. I only like political moderates. I don’t trust people who are far left or far right. This “all men” and “all women” nonsense needs to stop

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    No, it's not all men. This kind of attitude is absolutely unhelpful.

    A Happy Doggo
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    they mean that its easier to be on guard than to automatically assume they are safe

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    Women get worse and worse each year. All women, I don’t even care anymore. Until a woman proves to me otherwise with her actions and behavior, it’s easier to assume she’s crazy and hates men. See how that works?

    SadieCat17
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women that hate men annoy men. Men that hate women kill and rape women. See how that works?

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    I wont die mad about it because I know this is horseshit and will go on with my life. This one is just stupid "constantly online" nonsense.

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    This sounds like someone who just hates men, unless they are bleeding heart liberals.

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    Hannah begins talking about her own life and being privy to guys’ “locker room talk”: “Because of the dual life/lives that I live, I feel I get a little glimpse into the different perspectives people have about gender and gender roles. When I present as male, men talk to me like I am 'one of the guys'. These conversations can range from sports to social topics to inappropriate comments. I suppose some people would call this 'locker room talk' but I think that's in an effort to excuse certain behavior.”

    “I am not out to the majority of the people in my (male) life. Almost everyone I know thinks of me as the guy they work with or their buddy from high school. My gender identity isn't on their radar. Because of this, some people in my life have no hesitation sharing their perspective on women... whether they are cisgender or transgender. Sometimes they will complain about how long it takes for women to get ready or ridicule their teenage daughters for being dramatic about a silly boy. These opinions are rather telling when it comes to their perspective on women. Perhaps they feel women are too shallow or emotional. Perhaps they feel women are weaker for having emotions."

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    I used to be Christian Conservative and my ex bf at the time was very much so into 4chan while getting more and more extreme right wing as the years went on.

    We were together for 8 years. A lot of bull s**t happened in that amount of time, but I stayed because he had me so convinced that a civil war was going to break out, that the right was going to have to fight for their own land and new country, that eventually we would have to *literally* fight for our rights, and that he was going to protect me during this eventual war. I thought, well if it's going to happen, at least I'll be with someone that knows how to protect me. Saying this all now makes me cringe inside.

    Anyway, my current partner is liberal, a feminist, and a Marine. He helped me de-brainwash myself and has really helped me see the light. He is also accepting of the fact that I am attracted to women. If there were ever an actual war and all hell broke loose, I know for a fact I would be in much better hands now than I would have ever been if I stayed with my ex.

    All of this to say, redpillers are scary. I would date exclusively women if something were to ever happen to my current partner because I could never risk even dating another redpiller. Conservative men are terrifying and are getting more and more extreme as time goes on.

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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sincerely hope there is never another civil war in the US, but I'm 100% convinced the first shots would come from the right.

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    #14

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild Was with someone who got into the redpill movement during our relationship



    **He told me that I had duties as a woman and I needed to fulfill his needs**



    0/10 would recommend getting with anyone who is into these belief and highly recommend leaving the second they bring up how it makes so much sense

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    Tamra
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It absolutely boggles my mind that there are people out there who think this way.

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    Im in my sixties and I’ve been single for the last 20 years. I love being single

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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hear you. My husband died 23 yrs ago and I never came across anyone who measured up. I don't think I could live with anyone now, too set in my ways. I really missed the sex though, but now I'm old and don't care anymore.

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    According to her, society still misunderstands transgender people and she shares how that has affected her: “Over the last few years, transgender people have become a very charged discussion. We have been politicalized and demonized. We are discussed and scrutinized. We have become perverted villains in the eyes of many. It's strange to have this spotlight on people like myself, but it is quite an experience to hear my coworkers and family members discuss non-binary people. Sometimes someone voices their support or mentions that their friend is transgender.”

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    “Other times, well, it's less encouraging.”

    #16

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild I refuse to f**k with any dude who has conservative, moderate, Christian or apolitical in a dating profile. I also will bail any time anyone says anything about alpha, beta, or sigma males. And any sort of negging will get them tossed. I mostly date queer people these days, if I do at all.

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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't understand the animosity towards being apolitical but I understand the US is pretty divided at the moment. I (non-US) would consider myself apolitical - in my opinion, politicians are all wolves in sheep's clothing, lying through their teeth constantly to get sway. Doesn't matter what party gets elected, they will let the power get to their head at some point, so why show loyalty to any of them?

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    #17

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild I really can’t come up with any reason that I would date again. My single life is just so free and uncomplicated. All of the men I’ve ever been with have been more of a burden in my life.
    The upside for me just wasn’t there compared to what I had to sacrifice.

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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Better to be happy with a houseful of pets, friends and family than with the wrong guy.

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    #18

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild Yes. It’s impacting how men of all ages treat women. When I was single it was the reason I got off the dating apps. It’s also why I go out of my way not to engage with men in public.

    The entitlement and creepy, aggressive behavior is awful. I used to travel a lot for work so I spent a lot of time in places where you meet men. I remember when you’d be having dinner at a bar and have a nice conversation with a man, a bit of a laugh, a few drinks and then go your separate ways. There was a sort of camaraderie. Something happened and more and more men started treating women like they are prey they are entitled to. It’s scary out there. And they are so rude and mean. It’s totally crazy the stuff I’ve had total strangers say to me.

    And let me tell you, married men are the absolute worse. They are so gross and pushy. It used to be you’d be able to have a chat with a married man and know he likely wouldn’t hit on you. I will not engage with married men anymore. If women had any idea what their husbands are getting up to out in the world. I will never date a man who travels for work. Ever. If you’re married to a business traveler, especially a middle age one, you should regularly get STD tested.

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    BravePanda
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. I used to work as a bartender in a hotel bar, a hotel that catered to wealthy business travelers. I've seen men tell bedtime stories over the phone, hang up, and go upstairs with someone they met three bourbons ago. Nightly.

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    #19

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild It wasn't the redpill that erased any interest or trust in men, it was men. They've always been like this, redpill just lets them be honest.

    Lord love him, my dad did not (does not) know what to do with a daughter, so he always treated me like a slightly weaker son. I grew up with the knowledge that it might take me longer to do strength related tasks, but I would get that couch moved, that tire changed, that box up the stairs, etc. I was expected to be just as independent and dependable as my brothers. And the few times my brothers tried to treat me less than because I was a girl, I proved them wrong. (Ah, brothers, bless their hearts. They are stronger, I'm sneakier.)

    Then I encountered men and boys who genuinely did see me as "less". Men and boys, coworkers and teachers and casual acquaintances who blink and look shocked when I talk back, when I hold the door for them, when I give them advice or joke around when them.... Yknow, when I dare to be a person treating them like a person.

    It took years to figure out it was a "them, not me" problem, and took a page out of their book and "went my own way". I prefer women, socially and romantically.

    In short, by the time redpill came around, I had already lost any interest in men as friends or acquaintances.

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    Black Cat
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're lucky you're interested inwomen romantically. Men are too dangerous to give them the benefit of the doubt. I feel far more safe being single than in a relationship with a man. The older I get the more I'm sickened by men. It's hard to like or be attracted to a group of people you can't trust or respect.

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    #20

    Im queer/bisexual and havent been attracted to a man in years. They ruined any attraction i had with how they are. Only non binary and women for me thanks

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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not sure why your post would be downvoted against all the others. so I put you back at zero.

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    Our interviewee points out the inherent perspective of some men that women are weaker or inferior: “I've heard men discuss people like me and how they don't understand us. And that's fine... I guess. Like I said earlier, I am not trying to be understood. I just want to be treated kindly.  Sometimes these conversations have led to men wondering why anyone would want to be a woman. ‘Why would anyone want to be inferior?’ they ask. ‘Why go from being a man to a girl?’ I've heard some men say that they kind of understand why a woman would want to transition to male, as if it's somewhat of a ‘promotion’, if you will.”

    “This is, of course, not a reason people transition,” Hannah goes to finish, “But it is a reflection of how some men blatantly see their gender as superior.  They may not understand transgender people, but they certainly understand why someone would want to be male.”

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    #21

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild Yes. I used to think a lot of misogyny and sexism was a generational thing. Something that would die out as understanding and empathy progressed.

    Now I understand that men don't really see women as human beings and only as things to benefit them. They don't want women to be happy because they genuinely don't give 2 shits.

    I won't date anymore.

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    Tara L.
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ya it definitely is NOT a generational thing, men of all ages act like this though I've seen it more often in younger men than older.

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    #22

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild Oh 100% yes. I used to not care much about politics, basically: "don't encroach on the rights of others" was my only rule, but now I won't date anyone who isn't a liberal who supports feminism. It makes me scared, honestly. I want kids tremendously, but I don't know if I'll be able to find a male partner who I feel I can trust enough to do that with.

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    Tamra
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've seen men comment right here on BP that feminism is a "problem". Now, that's either ignorance of what feminism is (which can be solved with education), or straight up misogyny. And what cures that, I don't know, but it's pretty damned disappointing.

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    #23

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild Yes, I hate to say it but I just started assuming that most men are raging mysogynistic.

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    #24

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild I honestly don't even want to talk to men outside of the ones I know and trust anymore.

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    #25

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild Not my overall attraction, but it’s changed my “acceptable risk” profile when it comes to casual sexism. I used to laugh a bit more if it off, especially the “benevolent” bits.

    Now, I don’t feel confident I can tell the difference between someone who is very confused about wolves, and someone who intends to go on a shooting spree, so if you sincerely talk about alphas and betas, ya out. Forever. No conversation or attempt to educate. Just out. There are lots of red-pill phrases that hit my ears these days and I just Nope right out. You’re dead to me. We’re not dating, we’re not friends, I won’t work with you a moment longer than absolutely necessary.

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    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild My generation is a bit old for the redpill movement which seems (to me) to be more for the younger crowd. HOWEVER, I’ve had enough experience with men of my own generation to be put off by the garden variety misogyny that seems to lurk just below the surface for so many of them. I am still attracted to men but I am not interested in being in a relationship with one.

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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am 70. My soon to be ex-husband has decided he no longer wants to put in any effort to share his life with me. He thinks he will be better "on his own". Hasta la bye-bye.

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    #27

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild Like seven months ago, I would have said that I don’t know where all these disgusting dudes hide when I’m around, and that I probably just surround myself with quality people. Then I heard my best friend say some out of pocket s**t about his girlfriend and he has not spoken to me since I called him out on it.

    Now I’ll just say that y’all need to do whatever keeps you in the safest and happiest state at all times, even if it means not f*****g with men. I still have other great friends who I perceive as being decent humans, but that experience rattled me. Couldn’t imagine hearing some of the s**t he said after becoming intimidate with someone.

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    1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to work in an environment with many men. When they talked with other men, they called their wives derogatory terms, like the crone, the old ball-and-chain, etc. But when they talked to me, they'd say "my girlfriend" or "my wife", even when they had called her a "crone" two minutes ago, in the same room, as if I'm deaf when they're not talking directly to me.

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    #28

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild Yes. Being on the internet has opened my eyes to how little men think of us. I honestly have lost interest in even dating men after this s**t I’ve read.

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    Cat Houston
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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know a LOT of really great, decent, compassionate, progressive men but as they stand as a gender group, I have very little trust or admiration for them.

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    #29

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild Yes

    After dealing with a redpiller in the wild I am now way more hesitant to get involved with a man

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    Absolutely. It even made me wonder if I ever want myself in a relationship with a man in the future. Like, why would I even give anything to someone who does not even consider me a human being? In the end it increased my trust issues with men even more, and made me waay pickier about who I want in my social circle.

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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If anything ever happened to hubby or if we split up, I'm not sure I can be bothered to find a man again. I might consider women but honestly as a ND middle-aged woman I'm not sure I have the energy for anyone!

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    #31

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild It affected how I saw men. I used to think men were just like people like we are and just made mistakes. It turns out that’s not true. They have whole ideologies to use and abuse us. I no longer cut them the same kind hearted slack I used to.

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    #32

    It definitely has changed my comfort level with men and has made me more hesitant to date. I’m so happy with my single life that even though I’d love to share it with with the right person, it doesn’t feel worth the risk. I live in an area where I’m politically the minority and the men here really scare me to the point where I do my best to not interact or make eye contact.

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    #33

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild Yes, I am downright terrified of men and barely date at all anymore as a result.

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    #34

    I had issues with them long before the redpill movement had a name. I was socialized as one of them growing up so it was always easy for me to figure out what game they were playing and use it against them. Cishet men are the worst.

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    #35

    Back in quarantine was when I first started to see it (probably like everyone else). Me and my dad used to make fun of it together. And I thought it was exclusively internet junk, no rational in real life person thinks this way. It wasn’t until I started matching with guys who would say something redpill adjacent and I thought “they really are out here.” So I just stopped putting myself out there entirely. My dad would even get one or two points in every now and again. So between running into it a couple times on dating apps and just seeing it more on the internet in general, I think at this point men period just make me tired. If they aren’t already friends of mine, I’m almost completely disinterested in dating and men entirely

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    #36

    Yes
    If me and my current bf don’t work out I’m not dating men anymore. But hopefully that doesn’t happen, he’s great.

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    #37

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild When I was "on the market" (I've been with my husband since 2018) I always considered the Red Pill to be an internet-brained thing that I didn't have to deal with IRL as much (I mean aside from just general misogyny in our culture). I've been on reddit since 2010/2011 and back then the red pill sub was just starting, and I used to go to r/thebluepill to make fun of those nerds. My closest male friends would take part, we'd send each other ridiculous posts and laugh. I didn't think men I respected and considered friends would get sucked in.

    Now... a few of my single guy friends who, back then would have laughed at these guys, have started saying some red flag s**t (like weirdo pro life-lite sentiments, weirdo "women are x" statements) but maybe I'm just hyper vigilant of the "signals." Like, I thought they knew better? Creepy stuff

    eta: I will say, being on reddit in general has made me dislike men as a class a lot more than ever before. This site used to 10x worse in regards to general misogyny and it made me look at men I didn't know with suspicion, which was not the case before.

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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately, Reddit does seem to have a highconcentration of red pillers. It is very hard to determine if there is the same percentage in the real world.

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    #38

    I'm generally terrified of being disappointed to find men I previously respected are redpilled. One of my oldest childhood friends turned out to be doing this s**t in Facebook groups. It tainted some wonderful memories.

    I'm not often attracted to men and when I am it gives me the same fear.

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    #39

    Absolutely, I even recently decided that the man I’m currently dating will be the last cis man I will date.

    I know they aren’t all bad (in fact the man I’m dating now is wonderful!) but recently I’ve realized I don’t have to date cis men, as that is not the only type of person I’m attracted to. If things don’t work out between my current sweetheart and I, I’m done. After the experiences I’ve had in the last five years I’m tired of finding even the “good ones” are likely to treat their partners at best like surrogate mommies. I’m just, tired of partners not acting like partners.

    *I feel like I should clarify* I absolutely consider trans men to be men, but at least in my experience they are MUCH MORE understanding and resistant to dysfunctional gender roles than people who have never had a question about the gender they were assigned at birth, so they get a pass.

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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a trans man, that definitely tracks. As a kid when I thought I was a girl I was very upset by the concept of misogyny and generally just got that whole thing out of the way in a way most cis guys wouldn't experience, and transitioning actually made it way more clear to me how f****d up things are. I'm treated much better as a guy than I was as a girl, in ways I really didn't expect at all before transitioning. It's really f****d up

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    #40

    As someone who has been studying incel behavior ( browsed 4chan for awhile was curious about the way they think ) it’s actually disgusting how these men think sure it could be s**t posting but still these men are the lowest in the barrel and no woman should ever feel sorry for them because they deserve to be lonely they blame others for their shortcomings not just women but also poc/ gays etc they hate society because they don’t fit in and want anyone that’s considered what I listed above to be lower than them because they think that men like them should be owed privileges for simply being born a man. Regardless not all men think this I have a boyfriend who is very supportive of women’s rights and my brothers are the same way. If you are going to jump into the dating field again I highly suggest listening to how men talk about women and how they treat them in their lives.

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    1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think ignoring this fixes it. We have to find a way that, at least in the future, not as many of these types of people are out there. Empathy training in grade school? A popular sitcom that models healthy behavior? Idk. But gross things grow in the dark.

    #41

    30 Women Open Up About Dating After Learning Of “Red Pill Men” In The Wild I'm terrified. I dated a redpill type of dude who is now a MGTOWer, and he was so emotionally abusive during our relationship. Men nowadays are f*****g terrible and I'm already 37.

    Biggest issue is my best friend, who I trust wholeheartedly and who I know would never pull that s**t with me, doesn't feel the same way romantically so I'm basically doomed to either never have a family, or roll the dice with some dude who will probably treat me like all the horror stories I read on here.

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