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Rev. Patrick from the Journey of Faith Church stressed to Bored Panda as well that faith is not necessary neither for morality nor hope. "If you consider for just a moment the immoral and inhumane acts perpetrated by so-called 'people of faith' throughout history. It is unfortunate but there are strains of all religion which promote violence, prejudice, injustices in the name of 'God,'" he pointed out.

According to the Reverend, doubt is an integral part of faith. "I have always believed you cannot have faith without doubt. Faith, without doubt, is no faith at all. Faith stretches us beyond the known, the comfortable, the seen to trust there is more than I know or can possibly conceive. The opposite of faith is fear not doubt," he explained to Bored Panda.

"Faith is in and of itself a struggle. Constant. The whole meaning of the name given to Jacob in the bible 'Israel' means one who wrestles with God. Faith is a constant wrestle/struggle which is both internal and external. When we stop struggling we stop having faith."

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers Read the Bible. Realized 99% of the Christians around me had never read it. Then realized that the vast majority of people have no idea of what’s in its pages. American Christianity is a joke.

stayathomepop7 , Rod Long Report

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181points

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Caro Caro 2 years ago (edited)

See, this is important. I understand that reading the whole bible is boring. But at least read the important books (Matthew for instance) and study the bible. The bible is full of hyperlinks and if you don't read and study then you have no idea what you're talking about. Just waffling off a few comments and verses to serve your purpose is dangerous and NOT a Christian thing to do. End of rant, need coffee. Bless you Pandas.

63points

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers The problem of evil. If God refuses to stop evil and suffering, they're not benevolent. If they're incapable of stopping evil and suffering, they're not really God.

The universe simply makes more sense when you view morality as a human construct. A bunch of dumb animals were trying to survive and find purpose in their existence, and inevitably they created the concept of a higher power.

Anubis343 , Jackson David Report

Final score:

167points

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Ozacoter 2 years ago

This is one of the things I will never get about believers. Why worshiping a god or gods that let horrible things happen, like covid, natural disasters or things like children dying of cancer.

66points

Martha Meyer 2 years ago

"God works in mysterious ways" - they say, when they can't explain this kind of stuff.

25points

Bobby 2 years ago

Nah. Thinking people of faith are not so cavalier about such things. This is a place where humans have choices. All the wars, pestilence, abuse, hunger, and general dumbassery are the result of choices made by individuals, more often by individuals in positions of trust. God does not make us do anything. We do it to ourselves and our fellow human beings. We create the toxic situations that cause cancer. We make the weapons of war. We destroy crops to control populations. We destroy environments. We enslave. We did it all, or sat idly by as more powerful among us made the choices. Nothing mysterious about it. It's us.

3points

madbakes 2 years ago

Right?! I don't want anything to do with a god that allows such horrible things to happen to children, animals, and the disabled.

10points

Evil Little Thing 2 years ago (edited)

Or expects them to be cruel to prove their faith. If your god demands you do evil things, then you worship an evil god. They hate hearing that though.

9points

Angelar 2 years ago

That is Iwan's stand in "The Brothers Karamazov". Dostoevsky answers with the figure of his younger brother Alyosha, and his teacher, Elder Zosima. (Sorry, I can't summarize it up in a few sentences.. I don't believe that literature can and should be consumed in any other form than the original work itself : ) Having to read it in translation is bad enough, and I have read four different translations so far to get closer ..)

4points

Bernd Herbert 2 years ago

Or the mental challenge to credit their god with anything good happening and not blaming the same god for all the bad things

4points

Spring Fisk 2 years ago

I know it has something to do with freewill. Freewill is such a powerful gift and unfortunately humans misuse it. For example "Adam and Eve" chose to do something they knew they should not do and thus caused the world to be fallen and broken. Or in modern times, a company chooses to pollute and nature is adversely effected, or, unfortunately a molester chooses to molest and thus irrevocably destroys a poor kids life. Freewill does not explain everything though and I definitely do not know why bad things happen to good people.

3points

H Edwards 2 years ago

The fundies that I have met blame all that stuff on the Devil.

1point

Cookie 2 years ago

There's a place where everything is nice and dandy - it's called Heaven.

0points

Linus Nilsson 2 years ago

Because that only makes sense if you consider this the highest plane of existence, which no religion thinks. People dying and suffering in this plane of existence gets reborn in another place after death, better beingd for it

0points

Archer Harris 2 years ago

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Ozacoter 2 years ago (edited)

You truly believe that Eves actions justify that innocent people suffer things like tsunamis, ebola or covid?

4points

Stephanie IV 2 years ago (edited)

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Pisco 2 years ago

So because of the actions of one woman millenia ago nowadays your god punished children with terrible diseases? What a horrible monster

2points

Pruthvi Patel 2 years ago

why is there evil still in the world if god is able to stop evil but not willing then he is evil if he is willing to stop evil but not able to then he is not omnipotent if he is both willing and able to then why is there still evil and if he is neither willing nor able then why is he god

6points

H Edwards 2 years ago

Like I said in another comment, I met a few fundies and they all blame the Devil for the bad stuff.

2points

Nikki Sevven 2 years ago

If God is omniscient, then he must have known that Lucifer would rebel. If God is omnipotent, why didn't he put a stop to it?

4points

WilvanderHeijden 2 years ago

People invented gods and heaven and hell because they refuse to accept that we're just here and alive for a moment and that's it. There won't be green pastures and blue skies and beautiful creatures handing us the best food on golden plates.

4points

smugdruggler 2 years ago

I think it was this that ended my belief in god. Started reading a bit of philosophy of religion, then "the God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins kind of finished it off.

3points

Betty Vanderhooven-SchmaaSchmaa 2 years ago

This one touches on my reasons. As a parent, I can't imagine a thing (sin), that would make me forsake my child. Certainly not things like lying, talking back, or stealing our neighbors pig. 😉

2points

Adrian 2 years ago

I figure it started when someone wanted their kids to remember the hard lessons learned out hunting, gathering corn, selecting a cave, lighting a fire, etc. So they would have a head start in the race for survival. Some put the lessons into song, dance and stories. Others wrote them on the walls of caves. But then humans started living in bigger groups and the lessons became more numerous so a priestly class arose that knew the lessons and told people what to do. As groups got even bigger the priests had to put the fear of God into people to make sure they followed the rules.

2points

Laura Mende (Human) 2 years ago

This was the point we where discussing in 10th grade. Is there a god if wars and the Holocaust and such things happen? The teacher talking with us was a substitute who usually teaches religion. He wanted to convince us that there IS a god. Greater part of class disagreed. To punish the parents with the death of their innocent child is Gods will?? I don't think so...

2points

adiiantryx 2 years ago

it's a quite interesting concept which was philosophically solved by dualist religions like Zoroastrianism into a fight between a great good and a great evil - so the good in the world was because of the god and the evil was because of the devil. of course, this led to the problem of order

2points

Libstak 2 years ago

The thing is...free will, you can't let people make their own choices and then go and stop them making their own choices if you don't agree with the choices. Of course there is also the issue of cause and effect, choices have inherently natural consequences. You can only teach people this, again sadly, if they don't comprehend it the cycle of action and reaction leads to atrocities.

2points

Pisco 2 years ago

How is free will responsible for things like small children getting leukemia?

4points

Cuddly Panda 2 years ago (edited)

Wait wait wait. So god gave us free will, and whatever consequences we face, we face, right? However, as the one who supposedly designed the universe and it's rules, he made the consequence of a soulless corporation pumping pollution into the world be a child getting cancer? And since he is omnipotent, he knew this when "programming" the rules? Just making sure I understand.

4points

K R 2 years ago

Thank you. Free will is what I wanted to bring up. God isn't just a concept of a controlling dude with a remote control

-3points

Oopsydaisy 2 years ago

Whilst I am an atheist, I am always a bit surprised at this reductionist thinking. Why do people assume god is good? The god of the Old Testament certainly isn't. Why assume a creator would even care? I think it's perfectly possible to believe in a god without expecting that good to do good things

2points

Ozacoter 2 years ago

Because why worshiping an evil god even if he exists?

4points

H Edwards 2 years ago

Because we are taught (or at least I was told) that God is love and loves his children unconditionally, and also that he is omnipotent.

4points

Incitatus 2 years ago

Exactly. The OP is quoting the Riddle of Epicurus, and it's pretty easy to shoot holes into, because it presumes a narrow view of what God should be, without acknowledging that we cannot know what God is, nor the purpose of God.

-1point

I_Am_So_???? 7 months ago

"God forgives you for all your sins! JK JK HE WILL MAKE YOU GET CANCER AND BURN IN HELL BECAUSE YOU WERE BI AND DIDN'T LET MEN ABUSE YOU."

1point

MimSorensson 2 years ago

The theodicy problem woke a lot of smart people up from religion, you’re not alone.

1point

Haleigh Hollern 1 year ago

This is how I look at it. God gives us free will, and with that comes consequences whether good or bad.

0points

Colin Leamon 2 years ago

Try looking in the mirror. What have you done?

0points

Black Karen 2 years ago

God is not nonbinary lol

0points

Michael Isaacson 2 years ago

That is exactly what I've been saying my whole life. If god exists, then he is either not all-powerful, and therefore not god, or is and does't care, in which case, F.U.!

0points

ThatOneChick 2 years ago

I hope I can explain my side of things. As someone who is religious, this is a very popular question, and one that I myself have struggles with. At least in my church (I can't speak for all christian denominations), we believe that in the premarital life, life before birth, we chose to come to earth to learn and to grow. A big part of that is going through trials, and having agency. I hope that helped explained it a little bit from my point of view.

0points

Lynne Harbison 2 years ago

Shake off the shackles, and live your life without fear. There is no God watching over you. Churches make money from you. Get out, keep your money AND LIVE!

1point

Concept-Peter Roosdorp 2 years ago

Not only is morality a human construct. It also is redefined every now and then. We no longer have the same morals as in victorian england for example.

0points

El muerto 2 years ago

this problem pops up at even intervals in all religions, and religion usually finds a new way to explain it away..."is gods plan" or my favorit "is punishment for you failing at something"...but then those same arguments bring religion down...in the end you can't do anything to change anything and nothing you do really matters, wish is the same in a world without religion

0points

Shelley Finance 2 years ago

I get this take, but also, God's thing seems to have been to give us free will, theoretically empowering us to stop evil, or at least not be jerks. I'm no expert on any of this. Just a thought.

-1point

Terd Fergison 2 years ago

What about our main source of heat and light giving many people skin cancer? If you claim god created everything, then he did that and he would be a torturous c-unt. This free will argument is completely stupid and it has been thoroughly debunked. Do you believe in heaven? Is everything all good in heaven? Is there free will in heaven? Then god can make a place that is all good with free will. Why not just do that on earth? Is your god evil? Incompetent? A boob? Or fictional?

0points

Cuervo 2 years ago

It's a constant fight between good and evil. Pick a side... I choose good over evil. Love over hate.

-1point

Dillon Hughes 2 years ago

God gives us the choice to do good or bad. We chose evil.

-2points

Betty Vanderhooven-SchmaaSchmaa 2 years ago

True. So for those that choose to do good, live good lives. They would be protected, right? Their goodness would be reflected with a good life. In walks a troubled person intent on causing harm. Only the bad ppl are harmed? Nope. Oh, that's God's mysterious plan.

6points

Terd Fergison 2 years ago

0points

Lynne Harbison 2 years ago

What absolute rubbish.

0points

Truth Monster 2 years ago

A game developer puts out a game. Its awesome. Some other person writes a mod for this game. The players of the game install it, and the game no longer plays as intended. The game is now harder, and grindier. Players begin killing and stealing from each other, and the debuffs make playing even harder. In an attempt to undo the damage, a massive reset is made, and many of the worst offenders are banned. It fails. And here we are, in our modded world, blaming the game dev that his world sucks now.

-3points

Jess-a-men 2 years ago

If you die in the game, you die in real life. If your virtual family and neighbors die in the game, they die in real life, even though they have never installed the mod and never touched the game. The developer knew that this would happen in advance. The developer watched and did nothing while the modder wrote the mod. The developer purposely build the game in a way that would allow it to be modded. The developer sold the game exclusively to extremely young children who are incapable of understanding that installing random mods is a bad idea and have zero supervision. The massive reset - which also ruined the game for everyone who didn't have the mods installed, and again the developer knew that that would be the case - was completely unnecessary, because the developer has magic powers and could fix this all with a snap his fingers, which would have zero negative impact and save millions of lives, but he doesn't. Damn right we're going to blame the game dev!

5points

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Rev. Adam from the Clackamas United Church of Christ agrees that it is "normal" to have doubts and they're something that everyone has. "People who claim to have the strongest faith are almost always suppressing their doubts. I've noticed these people tend to be spiritually toxic to themselves and others because in suppressing their doubts they lash out against others," he told Bored Panda.

"Please know that it is normal to struggle with faith. The priests, prophets, disciples, and even Jesus all had their struggles with faith. Jesus wasn't sure what he should do in the Garden of Gethsemane. He even showed his doubts when he prayed on the cross, 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?' Have you ever felt forsaken by God and so you struggle with faith? That's okay. You are not alone. Even Jesus had to struggle with faith," Rev. Adam said.

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers A priest shaming a 7-year-old me for my parent's divorce. That was a good start into rethinking all the religion.

recklessiga , Caleb Woods Report

Final score:

167points

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Sarcastic Cow 2 years ago

What the actual f***?!

73points

Typical-Type-408 , Kristijan Arsov Report

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers When I was 10, the swami (Hindu priest) at my local temple asked me who my favorite God is and I replied 'Thor'.

He laughed and my family laughed and everyone around laughed and told me that these are imaginary characters made to fool kids and make money.

Final score:

151points

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ᴠᴀɪɴᴏ 2 years ago

True legend here!

13points

Final-Distribution97 , History in HD Report

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers Working with "Christians" and watching them adore a man like Trump. You know it is a shame and about maintaining white male power.

Final score:

151points

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Caro Caro 2 years ago

It's a shame and a sham. So called Christians voting for a man who is not a Christian, doesn't go to church (never), has no clue about the bible and it's contents and does not live with the Christian values. (Jeremiah 23:16 - This is what the LORD of Hosts says: "Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you. They are filling you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.).

69points

Previously, Bored Panda spoke to Rev. Patrick about hope. His church is widely known for putting up witty and spot-on signs about the Covid-19 pandemic.

According to the Reverend, they were overwhelmed with responses about the sign. While some people were “affirming and appreciative” of them, others were not as friendly.

Rev. Patrick gave some advice for anyone who is losing hope in these dark and trying times. “Honor your feelings of hopelessness. They're legit. But know we don't stay there,” he told Bored Panda.

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers ex Muslim here. lots of misogynistic things in both the Quran and habits that never sat right w me

aelinivanov , Malik Shibly Report

Final score:

144points

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Ozacoter 2 years ago

Same with the Bible. The abrahamic religions are pure misoginy

71points

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers Grew up and started asking questions. They didn’t like that.

goatsandwich43 , Artem Maltsev Report

Final score:

142points

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smugdruggler 2 years ago

They never do. Until you start asking, they can pretend that they have the answers.

42points

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers Being forced to go to church as a kid and be part of all the holiday plays. All the while getting physically and emotionally beat at home by my stepdad and praying every second of the day for change only to be let down time and time again.

I moved out when I was 13 and never looked back.

Sour_Sunrise , Kat J Report

Final score:

140points

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ᴠᴀɪɴᴏ 2 years ago (edited)

That's great for you! Don't let people who hurt you influence you! Great to know you didn't stay with your abusive stepdad! Cheer on!

44points

“In the same space where despair sits in the soul, so does hope. I have found my faith has become healthier when I have accepted the wholeness of the human and divine experience. It's not joy or sorrow but joy and sorrow. It's not love or fear, it's love and fear. But because of the Easter moment and message of Jesus' resurrection—love wins!" Rev. Patrick, from Maryland, shared.

"I believe as followers of Jesus, we need to cling more to our faith which is built around the questions of God and life and not our religion which is too defensive of our answers,” he added.

#10

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers Nothing makes people anti theist faster than theists.

akugyaku , Pedro Lima Report

Final score:

124points

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XSpooky_Mint 2 years ago

True

21points

#11

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers Imagine telling a kid that they'll be forsaken and tortured for an eternity if they jack off or eat shrimp.

DeltaSolana , Benjamin Voros Report

Final score:

123points

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ᴠᴀɪɴᴏ 2 years ago

CHEESUS, these beliefs are crazy dumb

29points

#12

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers I was raised Southern Pentecostal. My grandmother was insanely religious, so I was always at church. The church I went to believed in "speaking in tongues", laying of hands, miracle healing, taking up serpents (handling snakes), and all other kinds of dumba**ery. I went with it for a long time. About 13 I went to a revival summer camp. There was a whole ceremony about pledging yourself to Jesus and not having sex. That spun into kids my age going to a microphone and confessing they had sexual thoughts or what they had done with other people. Then the pastor would pray for the kid and they'd "pass out" on the floor. Pastor comes to me and prays and like pushes me off balance so I play the game and lay on the floor. I'm laying there and just kinda took stock of the actual insanity of this service. I think I lost faith then. After going home I paid more attention to the actions of the people in the church during the services and realized how utterly insane it was. It wasn't long and people actually started acting differently to me because I wasn't doing what they were and I was asked to not return.

paythefullprice , Elliot Sloman Report

Final score:

116points

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Kat O. 2 years ago

I grew up as a Pentecostal. Absolutely insane beliefs.

37points

Meanwhile, Rev. Adam from the Clackamas United Church of Christ, told Bored Panda that “God loves all people and invites us to work for a more just world as we share that love with others.”

For Reverend Adam, inclusivity, acceptance, and tolerance are very important, as is social justice, and “quoting the Bible in a life-affirming way toward immigrants, along with our LGBTQIA and BIPOC siblings.”

Adam told Bored Panda that the last few years “have increased faith for many.” However, he believes that this definition of ‘faith’ isn’t one that his church has been used to. This interpretation of faith is more akin to the need to belong to a community.

#13

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers Listening to Southern Baptists and their lame arguments about why women should submit to their husbands and defend slavery and watch them acting and speaking the opposite of what Jesus actually preached.

NotMyRealName814 , pixabay.com Report

Final score:

113points

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Ian Goldby 2 years ago

A Christian is known by their fruit. Bad fruit = bad Christian. Try listening to the good Christians instead.

14points

#14

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers I was 11 or 12 and knew a toddler that had contracted HIV from a surgical procedure in the 1980s when AIDS hysteria was at fever pitch. Soon afterward, I heard a pastor say that AIDS was God's way of inflicting punishment upon sinners, and those who contracted it deserved it.

I knew the preacher was an idiot, but that didn't do it for me on its own. It was after the sermon when everyone was getting their coffee and donuts when I heard all the parishioners were saying how refreshing it was to have a preacher who was not afraid to speak the truth and tell things the way they really are (it was language eerily similar to that used by people to describe why they liked Trump more than three decades later).

I figured that if there was a God, he'd figure out a way to set things like that straight. I suspected that religion was less about salvation than it was about control.

reddit , Mitchell Leach Report

Final score:

109points

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Samantha Lomb 2 years ago

Yeah that was just homophobes being assholes. But yes there is no god.

22points

ReaperDanny666 , Gabriella Clare Marino Report

#15

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers If you should "come as you are", why are we getting all dressed up to the nines? If it isn't for God, it's definitely for fellow churchgoers. Every time I went to church people would have this fake smile plastered upon their faces. Shake each other's hands and sing grace. They'd turn around and get drunk at the bar and run cars into buildings and people. One of the Sunday school teachers molested one of the kids. Besides, religious people use God as a reason for everything, including a scapegoat when things go wrong. "God, if you do this for me I'll never do wrong again".

If I were God, no child would have cancer. God does not work in mysterious ways. No lesson can be learned from giving a kid cancer and letting them suffer until they die.

God's forgiveness: "accept me into your heart so I can save you from what I will do to you if you don't"

Final score:

105points

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Ozacoter 2 years ago

Exactly. Inocent people having horrible diseases or children being molested is proof that there are no gods

37points

i_like_cars_alot , Quinton Coetzee Report

"For example, I find that people of different faiths and even people of no faith are looking for a sense of community. Faith is moving much more towards what I think Jesus had in mind—a trust in something bigger than yourself,” he said.

“Sometimes, we find that trust in community, realizing that all communities are flawed and make mistakes, but that participating in something bigger than ourselves makes life worth living. I think people are finding that especially in these most difficult times, faith within a community is something we need more than ever,” Adam said.

The Reverend's congregation believes in defending equality, dignity, and the rights of all people under God. “We are open and affirming of our LGBTQ siblings and believe God calls us to love all of our neighbors, including those who are black, brown, white, rich, poor, religious, atheist, documented, and undocumented,” the Clackamas United Church of Christ proclaims.

#16

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers I read one of Steven Hawking's books and became terrified I was going to hell for opening it. I was 12. Some years later I realized that it was all bs, went back and finished the book and that was that.

Final score:

99points

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Pa4040 2 years ago

Going to Hell for gainimg knowledge of how the universe actually works. Sounds about right

37points

#17

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers I read the Bible & also because they couldn't answer any of my questions. Do animals have souls? If yes, isn't that murder when we eat them? If not, then what keeps them alive? The bible says slavery is okay??? But it is NOT? The bible says women should remain silent & never be teachers but my pastor is literally a woman? And don't mothers TEACH their children? If all the old testament is wrong or the old rules or whatever then why did God include it in the first place? Why was God so cruel to Lucifer when all he asked for was understanding - God admits humans are flawed, Lucifer says why love such a flawed thing, & then yeets him down to damnation?? Did hell already exist without Lucifer? And if Satan wants us to commit sins then why would he punish us for doing what he wanted??

And then there's the whole "end times" battle where Satan is a guy covered in light & God has gouged out eyes & is wearing blood-drenched clothes - like??? Surely he understands human FEAR?? We SUCK at judgment calls! And if God can turn water into wine so easily he can't grow fruit trees for the starving people all around the world??

Evolution just makes way more sense.

WerewolfHowls , Eugene Zhyvchik Report

Final score:

90points

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ᴠᴀɪɴᴏ 2 years ago

i agree dude

21points

#18

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers Second grade teacher told us we'll go to hell for swearing. Once. Imagine the kind of person telling second graders they are all going to hell. (And we didn't have religion taught in school. That teacher was a nut that probably hated children)

[Kid: "Well s**t, if I'm damned to hell for just cursing one f**king time, then I guess the a** is out of the stable, isn't it? No f**king reason to hold s**t back now!"]

Hedgehog_Owl , Taylor Wilcox Report

Final score:

87points

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Rod Egret 2 years ago

F**k yeah!!!

30points

#19

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers I read the Bible in-depth. I asked questions in bible study and was punished for not blindly accepting. The final nail in the coffin was the minister who performed my wedding had been moved from a previous parish for having affairs with the women parishioners. He was having affairs here and was moved again to a new parish where he did the same.

He droned on and on about fidelity and trust in marriage while unapologetically having affairs and the church just moved him knowing what he did.

The rampant hypocrisy sickened me.

Magnus_40 , Josh Applegate Report

Final score:

87points

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Ozacoter 2 years ago (edited)

This was the case with my father. A priest teacher tried to molest him when he was a teenager but he punched the disgusting pedo in the face. My father was severely punished but the priest was just send to another school to keep molesting children

42points

#20

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers Well, spending my earliest childhood years in a literal cult in the 70's, then being gay in a family of right-wing Evangelicals was kind of a perfect storm to turn me off of religion for life. My parents are gone now and my oldest sister has gone full QAnon, further validating my own position that it's all a steaming pile of crazy.

David Grove , Joshua Stitt Report

Final score:

86points

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ᴠᴀɪɴᴏ 2 years ago

Don't worry, things will take a deep turn and become better!

12points

#21

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers It just didn't make any sense to me, and I was tired of being told that I'm going to hell.

DeltaSolana , Jon Tyson Report

Final score:

77points

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adiiantryx 2 years ago

i mean if you're already going to hell...

12points

#22

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers Ex muslim.

I struggled understanding how I will inevitably go to hell (even if just for a little bit) because I am unable to perform prayer on time, especially the sunrise {fajr} prayer on time.

I have ADHD, and was unmedicated till my late 20s. Doing anything in time was an absolute uphill battle compared to other people. Ireally struggled to wake up in the morning all my childhood, my teen and my adult life. Looking at 23andMe, It’s almost like my genetic formation is destined to go to hell.

Also, I felt like being native in Arabic gave me an insanely unfair advantage over any non-arabic speakers. Even the most religious muslims from countries like Pakistan were inferior in understanding a lot of what came insanely easy to me.

So it didn’t really feel so fair of an ask.

Finally, some rules in the religion didn’t sit right at all and were basically the last nail in the coffin.

That being said, I still viciously protect the right of religious people to practice their religions without being looked down upon or discriminated against.

iRimmIt , Levi Meir Clancy Report

Final score:

71points

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Caro Caro 2 years ago (edited)

I love the last sentence. Leave people their religion, their freedom to worship. As long as these people leave the atheists alone and don't judge.

56points

#23

When I asked a religious education teacher what Noah and his family fed the carnivores on the ark and the 'teacher' stared at me like I was a cockroach. She then came and stood over me and said "Little girls should be seen and not heard." Until then I had always been encouraged to ask questions by the adults in my life. Decided that God wanted me to ask if I had the question and told her as much.
Yeah..... She asked me not to come back.

Becca Parsons Report

Final score:

70points

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XSpooky_Mint 2 years ago

What the f**k????

20points

#24

Went to college, started thinking for myself as opposed to blindly trusting who I was told to trust.

I used to think that religious folks had good intentions, at least, just misinformed. Now I know that to be wrong. Religion is a plague among the dull-minded.

senor-churro Report

Final score:

69points

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Samantha Lomb 2 years ago

And now you know why the religious right hates higher education.

38points

#25

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers I was never big on it though I was raised Catholic. One day I remember thinking "Why does an omnipotent, omnipresent entity need me to go to a church and listen to a priest? Why tell him (the priest) my sins? Surely God would know what I did and if I'm truly sorry... Then I started realizing what hypocrites the supposedly "pious" were in day-to-day life. Then our Bishop came up as a kiddy diddler...

Ryan Kristoff , Romain Dancre Report

Final score:

67points

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Libstak 2 years ago

Amen to that.

11points

#26

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers Family are Jehovah’s Witnesses. They had me at “144,000 people will live forever in a land of all good, just like the garden of eden was, but everyone else is sol and will simply not exist” what makes them better than me? Why does this god creature only love 144,000 out of billions?

I always asked questions that were answered with bible scriptures irrelevant to what I asked.

My grandma, my mom, and aunts and uncles were shunned from the Kingdom Hall after my grandma had an affair. He was straight up considered dead and my grandma and had children still went to the Kingdom Hall but no one was allowed to talk to them. They had to sit at the back of the hall. They had to come late and leave early so there was no contact with other members of the cult, I mean congregation. My mom and her sisters lost their friends.

closetedho , Mikey Report

Final score:

67points

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Caro Caro 2 years ago

No no no, Cult is the correct word.

54points

Affectionate_Pea_811 , Virgil Cayasa Report

#27

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers Constantly being told that I was going to hell just for missing church once in a while was the start of it for me.

But if they actually believed that then they are in hell too for judging me.

Final score:

62points

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Sarcastic Cow 2 years ago

oh, catholics...they love guilt.

19points

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#28

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers When I had to put on my private school bible final that the earth was 6000 years old I really started to dig in what the hell I believed. The whole Abraham sacrificing his son on a mountain is just so f**ked up too. It started with “Even if he was real I wouldn’t want to worship him.” It snowballed from there. Great moral teaching book though for the most part.

Princess_leia1993 , Tim Wildsmith Report

Final score:

60points

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ᴠᴀɪɴᴏ 2 years ago

Ahahaha if dinosaurs existed 250 mil years ago, megalodons existed 3.6 million years ago, leedsichthys problematicus lived 165 million years ago, WHAT THE HELL IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE THAT THE EARTH IS 6000 YEARS OLD

13points

#29

I was always told that If I prayed, god would answer me. My parents fought a lot, so I prayed every night that god would make it stop. He never answered.

Either_Brick Report

Final score:

56points

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Freya the Wanderer 2 years ago

All prayers get the same answer: crickets

6points

eschuylerhamilton , Stephen Radford Report

#30

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers I hated the judgment. I can think of one example that turned me off religion: I remember there was a sermon made by a pastor around Christmas time. I don't remember what it was about, only the guilt I felt afterward.

Final score:

52points

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Kat O. 2 years ago

This is how they suck you in. You feel so guilty that you have to make up for it.

14points

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#31

When as a kid a religious classmate told me that if you believe in Jesus you go to heaven, and when I asked "even killers?" and his answer was "yes if they believe in Jesus". My kid brain just shut down right there and then. The legions of people who backstab and gossip about others but still go to church every weekend thinking it's a Sin Washing Machine made me realize they have no f-ing idea about the Bible at all.

jayuscommissar Report

Final score:

35points

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Martin Blaney 2 years ago

HAHAHA yes indeed, the sin washing machine AKA the Sunday morning "reset" button.

15points

#32

I am tired of hearing things like god is absolute good and all powerful, everything god does is for good, god loves all. But when I read history, religious war, tortures, brutality and stuff, my brain asks 'damn, where's the love'. Get to watch the news and read stories of murderers, pedophiles, and so on. Also, religion doesn't make any sense. All the religious people are quite scary, when some of them fail to turn me into religious, I see the irritation and anger there (even my mom). Plus all the religious conflicts still going on, it feels bad for the powerless innocent people who suffer because of it. To get into imaginary heaven, people are destroying themselves and others even though we call ourselves intellectual beings

Weary-Ad-6162 Report

Final score:

34points

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Olga Dremina 2 years ago

To get into imaginary heaven, people are destroying themselves and others even though we call ourselves intellectual beings. THIS

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#33

I realized the most morally corrupt people were the ones that were always at church. Like they took the word ‘repent’ and show up for an hour service to cleanse themselves of a week of bulls**t. I don’t like being around them.

RettyD4 Report

Final score:

30points

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Stephanie IV 2 years ago

That's not at all how penance works.

3points

Annual_Rooster5678 , Priscilla Du Preez Report

#34

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers Read it once around age 14 to prove to myself god existed. That backfired. Read it again in my 20s but skipped the “begats” that pretty much sealed in my atheism.

Final score:

28points

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Fen Wolf 2 years ago

This happens a lot, and happens more if you read a pre-King James edition. There's a lot of changes.

6points

#35

Catholic school

arianleellewellyn Report

Final score:

27points

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Tonk Terrier 2 years ago

Oh yes. That will do it

11points

Dork_from_New_York Report

#36

Studied 'history of the Enlightenment' at university for a year. Was cured within two weeks or so.

Final score:

27points

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H Edwards 2 years ago

This is why the right-wing nutjobs don't want to send their kids to college.

18points

#37

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers After a lot of things I started to think why it is happening, why god isn't doing anything about it. In this process, I also read a lot of books on philosophy, self-help, psychology, etc. So I slowly moved from religious to agonistic and then atheist.

lawlietxx , Giammarco Report

Final score:

26points

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ᴠᴀɪɴᴏ 2 years ago

Good for you, you do you and don't let no one change ur opinion if u want to continue this!

4points

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#38

The idea of a single entity in the sky never made sense to me as an older kid, and as a pre-teen/teen, I started to believe that god wasn't a 'person' but was conscious in everything around us and existed without form/all form. Had adults at the church (catholic) laugh at me and encourage my peers to make fun of me too, and used every chance they could to mock me. As an agnostic atheist now, I find so much more peace sitting in nature and enjoying that it is 'just beautiful and moving and alive' than I ever did while believing in their god.

Rebecca Bundy Report

Final score:

26points

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Tuna Fish 2 years ago

Same. I always thought that God was nature and that's why it makes so much sense. While believing in a dude in the sky that grants wishes to some and says no to others was just crazy. I was often punished and ridiculed for my opinion to the point where I just started keeping it to myself.

9points

#39

I started reading the Bible.

DeXyDeXy Report

Final score:

25points

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Brian Bennett 2 years ago

Put it back in the fiction section!

6points

#40

Religion has ZERO evidence to back up its claims. Science has a plethora and continues to add it to.

maughanster2000 Report

Final score:

23points

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Brian Bennett 2 years ago

My very religious cousin sated about COVID "I do not believe in something I can't see. I asked her if she believed in God - Yes of course - I said Think about what you just said. I think most religions are based in fear!

6points

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#41

Someone Asks Atheists From Religious Families What Made Them Non-Believers, 30 Give Honest Answers I knew by 8th grade that religion was not my thing.

I do think that Catholic school was partially responsible for my femdom thing though. So not a total loss.

vidfail , Graham Ruttan Report

Final score:

22points

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Me Oh My 2 years ago

So you got one good thing out of it.

10points

#42

I started putting people above doctrine and religion.

Christianity forces you to believe that all gay people and all non-Christians will be tortured for all eternity. There is no way around it, and no amount of cognitive dissonance will make that ok. Any Christian that tries to be loving, forgiving, or progressive knows nothing about their own religion

excusetheblood Report

Final score:

22points

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Caro Caro 2 years ago

No, that's NOT what Christianity teaches, it's the hypocrites who teach that. There's a difference.

8points

#43

I had a lot of bad things happen in my life and if there is a god why would he let this all happen.

Chris0nF1re Report

Final score:

20points

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lailyfnoor 2 years ago

And no matter how hard we pray, bad things always happens

4points

#44

A friend from grad school was deeply religious and I attended some services with her and had conversations with her and some classmates from time to time. I would best describe myself as a Christmas/Easter Catholic at the time and had already been leaning towards religion not being my thing. I don’t think I realized how different branches of Christianity were until experiencing her church. We went during the week once and she was excited for the speaker (it was more like a lecture than a service, there wasn’t communion) and I sat there horrified as he complained about nuns/women speaking/teaching at a conference he had bee to and that services used instruments to accompany their songs and some anti abortion and anti gay rant for good measure. Horrified. I leaned over to her and said I didn’t want to embarrass her and if she wasn’t my ride I would have walked out. We had a conversation about it after and throughout the course of grad school it would come up, but she believed that women were basically second to men. She was allowed to teach Sunday school but not to the older kids. I was just beside myself that someone with an education degree and studying a male-dominated engineering field actually believed she shouldn’t be able to teach or influence and was second to a man. I was staying with her and her family for a few days and when the Sunday mass came up I declined and offered to meet her at the church after on our drive back to campus.

Kuhalsu Report

Final score:

19points

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Huddo's sister 2 years ago

The particular denomination and church you attend has a big impact on your opinions. I belong to the Uniting Church of Australia which is a very progressive church and has a large focus on social justice. There are female ministers and gay ministers, we have instruments (if there is anyone in the congregation who plays) with some hymns, we fight for refugee rights and we welcome anyone. I have attended churches of different denominations but the one that fits my views and beliefs is the Uniting. There is nothing really wrong with the others but they do have some rituals that I don't see the point of and they just have a different style of worship.

2points

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#45

Being told DnD was demon worship. Sure you can go full Evil but i love playing gray. Chaotic Neutral is my jam.

You kill Satan in some of the modules.

SimpleFNG Report

Final score:

17points

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Ceph Alopod 2 years ago

Necromancer here, life's more fun when you sin against man, gods and nature

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#46

It started with actually reading the Bible for the first time, instead of just getting passages given to me. It was nothing like what I was taught. Jesus turned out to be exactly like all the “crazy fundamentalists” who I previously assumed made the faith look bad.

That lead to learning about how the faith developed, which required learning about how Judaism developed. The entire history of Abrahamic religion was simply not what the faiths teach it is. That killed my faith.

I tried to hang on, turning to apologetics. There is no one more dishonest than professional religious apologists. They will proudly say demonstrably wrong, have it corrected by an expert in that field, acknowledge that correction, and continue repeating that same wrong statement over and over for new audiences. Some they seem to love are “atheists say there was nothing, then nothing exploded and made dinosaurs”, and “if evolution was true, why are there still monkeys?” Then there are their completely fluid and inconsistent reinterpretations of their scripture. With apologists, any given passage will mean opposite things at any given moment, depending on what they want it to mean at the time. There is so much “When Jesus says ‘Truly I tell you…’ he really means ‘Metaphorically, I or a metaphor for someone, tell you or a metaphor for someone…(insert thing that has no relevance to the text).’”

Funkycoldmedici Report

Final score:

16points

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Olga Dremina 2 years ago

Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle. “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the LORD in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. Tell me how is that good and teaches you good?

5points

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#47

I grew up in a religion that many would consider a cult. I was so sure it was true. Once I came to find out it wasn’t true, I applied the logic I used to leave my religions to other religions, I came to the same conclusion, all religion is man-made. At this point, I just think we are the universe trying to experience itself.

TryIndependent8288 Report

Final score:

16points

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Jaclyn Levy 2 years ago

"I just think we are the universe trying to experience itself." That is beautiful. I'm writing it down!

5points

#48

I was raised in the church and catholic school. But it never really seemed to be part of the culture, just my surroundings, if that makes sense. Some students, teachers, families were religious, some weren't. I didn't really absorb the religious teachings but tried to take it seriously at some point in high school just to think for myself... And it never really stuck. It was just a private school, but also the church.

Specific-Cook1725 Report

Final score:

15points

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#49

I never really believed it from the start. I joked about it once, and my mom yelled at me. I'm still keeping it a secret.

chak_lok Report

Final score:

15points

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Adrian 2 years ago

Do I believe in God? But what is belief? There are kangaroos, I believe they exist. So does the question ask whether I believe in His existence? or that I support the rules the priests laid down in His name? If the former there is no way to prove one way or another. If the latter then the rules may or may not be correctly interpreted.

2points

#50

When I was in 5th grade a classmate said she was atheist and I asked why. She said none of it made much sense. I thought about it and agreed.

Honestly God was the default view and it never occurred to me to think otherwise and literally the second I gave it any real thought or challenged it I was like oh yea none of this really tracks

I didn't really have any sophistication or understanding about how clearly manmade and a reflection of our own anxieties God is - that all came later. At that moment it really came down to I was told gods were real but was never truly made to believe it because it wasn't made to feel real.

It's actually weird to me that this doesn't happen eventually to most people. Like you live your life in the real world enough that at some point it becomes clear that none of this religious stuff makes sense as anything other than a way some humans concocted to control others and sometimes themselves

hushzone Report

Final score:

14points

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Stephanie IV 2 years ago

That is so weird. It was the other way round for me. Born with faith I couldn't express. Heard the word GOD. Asked about it. Parents (Agnostics) explained. Things clicked. I can feel God's presence at all times. To me, everything is like a song of God's love for creation. It's a naive faith. I have tried to reason it away for decades. But it would not budge. So there it is.

4points

TheGoodJudgeHolden Report

#51

I just gradually ....stopped.

I kinda always knew it was BS, but imprinting is a thing and it stuck with me for years. All those endless years of church and bible camps, the rantings about hell and the devil, it stays with you.

Social control....

But now, nothing. I want proof, not the bulls**t from some "youth pastor" that just says believe.

Until I see actual proof, I'm an atheist.

Final score:

13points

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Kim Steffen 2 years ago

A man without God is like a fish without a bicycle.

20points

#52

My parents and religious teacher started arguing through me over whether the devil is real or not, and I realized that nothing of it was certain

Bri_0_ Report

Final score:

13points

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Tiffany Wilson 2 years ago

From what I've gathered from light and dark workers, those that have been on the other side... the devil was created out of Christian fear and only affects them. Make sense to me.

3points

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cybermerlin2000 2 years ago

Religion is going to fade away as it refuses to do the one thing science readily does. Adapt and evolve. The closest thing that religion does is either destroy another religion by propaganda or plain genocide, steal another religion such as Christianity which used to be Mithaism which was once Horus worshipping. Religions are stubborn and resistant to changing and because of this their ideas are old-fashioned and make no sense in the real world. Catholicism is responsible for the highest number of deaths in the world and even killed more people than the Black Death. So no, religion will not make it. It is doomed to fade away as more and more people realize how hypocritical the religions are

17points

Cuddly Panda 2 years ago

I really wish this was voted higher.

4points

Elaine Elder 2 years ago

As a religion nears 1,000 years old, it becomes self aggendizing and wholy holier-than-thou. Modern Christianity is at the 1,000 year mark. Protestants split and splintered into what is now American Christianity. The rule holds true. If you are a non believer in the "right" kind of Christianity, you must be ground to dust and eradicated.

1point

Nikole 2 years ago

AMEN!

0points

Piet Puk 2 years ago

So happy to read about all the people finding their way towards reality!

14points

James016 2 years ago

My wife is Muslim and not particularly religious (she married a Jew after all). However she did tell me of one incident that happened to her. This was just after her mum passed away and her dad passed away the year before. She went to her local mosque to say a prayer for them but she forgot her headscarf. Instead of providing one or letting it go, the Iman went into a tirade at her for not wearing one and how she will go to hell because of it. As far as I know she has not been in a mosque since. She still has her faith but that was a real kick in the teeth for her.

13points

Lilith the Demon Panda 2 years ago

my bf is a muslim, I am an atheist... in his country few times I entered a mosque without a scarf and... nothing happened... (I must admit I'm a natural rebel, I like to provoke and test the boundaries :-))

0points

Kyndal T 2 years ago

Baptist/Pentecostal nut job family. They offered me an exorcism or a week at bible camp. Took the camp. Made a point to be overtly sexual and inappropriate at every given opportunity. It was the most fun I've had with churchers. All this because I cut my hair. At 15. It was down to the floor. Now, my hair is purple, I've slept with more women than men, have several tattoos and piercings, and I was less welcome at my mother's funeral than the family pedophile. I wasn't even invited or informed of the wake prior to the funeral. On the day, my grandmother "accidentally" told me the wrong cafe for the family lunch after burial. I'd always had a great relationship with her and believed she wasn't like them. She isn't until they're around. My mom was nothing like them and the service was appalling. There's more but not enough therapy to cover it all.

10points

JessRS 2 years ago

Cut ties, honey, you don't need that crap in your life.

2points

Lovin' Life 2 years ago

I am a Christian. But I would never force my beliefs on to another person. We should all be able to worship , pray and believe what we think is right and wrong. I was church damaged for many years, being forced to attend a southern Baptist church that condemned me to Hell many times. It took me years to get over that. I am truly sorry to all how have been church damaged. That is not how any religious organization/ institution should be ran. Hugs and love to all.

8points

Huddo's sister 2 years ago

I totally agree!

2points

Mark Fuller 2 years ago

Spent my teens in a catholic school. Every week we were all told how the, "devil rubs his hands together when he sees such rich pickings...!" And then at various points during Mass we had to call out like zombies: Thanks be to God! Lord have Mercy Praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ We are not worthy Lord, hear our prayer! Bluntly. F**k. Right. Off. Like being a teenager isn't difficult enough, I didn't need this crap. I was... and remain worthy. I respected my parents, worked hard at school, abided by the law, treated others as I would wish to be treated. I am a good person - don't indoctrinate me with the unfounded belief that I am anything else.

8points

Caro Caro 2 years ago

My so went to a catholic school. He hated it and the priests hitting him (and that priest getting a hard on) and nobody did a friggin thing about it.

3points

ADHORTATOR 2 years ago (edited)

My favorite class in school was Religion (in Germany, it is mandatory) I argued all the time with the teachers and they loved me - finally a student who is participating in class :-)

7points

Huddo's sister 2 years ago

That's great!

0points

Philler Space 2 years ago

Years after sort of coming to this conclusion on my own, I learned the term "maltheism," which supposed that if there is a higher power, all evidence suggests it is not necessarily benevolent and may in fact be downright hostile. This is the only religious position that makes any sense to me; was so pleased to find out it has a name.

6points

Ozacoter 2 years ago

All perfectly logical and valid reasons. Personally I grew up in a very catholic family and school but I never believed idk why. For years I was embarassed to be so weird until I met another girl that was an atheist and I discovered that it was not me "malfunctioning " but a common thing. In any case as a Spanish woman I just cant be religious. Our church supported a genocidal regime that killed, tortured and raped thousands (and supported Hitler). Even nowadays their bishops still openly defend rape, pedophilia, domestic violence and other horrible crimes. I cannot understand how anybody can hear them and still be part of their cult.

6points

alloutbikes@yahoo.com 1 year ago

That is the organized religion. You can have your faith without any of that. The crazy is people defining what they believe, not what you have to believe.

0points

Nikki Sevven 2 years ago

Reading the Bible did it for me, and the giveaway was in the very first book. God forbids Adam and Eve from eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Eve eats the fruit. Humanity is forever barred from Eden and otherwise cursed. But Eve could not possibly have known that eating the fruit was wrong...until AFTER she ate it. God set up Adam and Eve to fail, then held the entire human race accountable for it. That's an asshole move, not the actions of someone entitled to my reverence.

5points

Elaine Elder 2 years ago

Southern Baptists don't actually read the Bible. So a preacher reads one line "chapter: verse" then does a sermon taking that sentence out of context and a whole church full of people "amen" in his pauses. All those people think that's what the Bible "says" Then it becomes a game of telephone, getting so distorted it just becomes stupid. Wanna shut a Primitive Baptist Preacher up? Ask him WHERE it says what he just told you the Bible says something. When they ask if you are saved? Ask if they are going to this HEAVEN. Explain if they will be there for eternity, you would prefer to be somewhere else, because spending eternity with his bunch of hypocrites sounds like Hell.

1point

Random Anon 2 years ago

I bounced around the Abrahamic and Buddhism related ones. The teachings have merit in some cases. Some needs to be refreshed to reflect the current society. Some are outright bullcrap. Maybe it's the way language is in the old days, but a lot of these texts cannot but should not be taken literally.

5points

Elaine Elder 2 years ago

Christians have become adept at the art of Pick N Choose, out of context, WORDS of God.

0points

Walking On Sunshine 2 years ago

I was raised in a Southern Baptist church, we were there every time the door opened. But I never bought into it. Even as a small child, the stories were so fantastical I knew they weren't true. When everybody ran up to be baptized, I never did because it just didn't feel right.....I call it a gift.

5points

MimSorensson 2 years ago

It is! A great, great gift!

0points

Ben Cohen 2 years ago

I lived in the basement of a "man of god" who had "church" at his house but treated us, his tenants, like we were third or fourth class citizens... not worth anything but a pay check for him.

5points

Bernd Herbert 2 years ago

I started reading about Christianity when I was about 15 years old, the real history, how it was made. That was it for me…never really believed in the magic bits anyway

4points

Glirpy 2 years ago

Imagine for a moment that you are God. You have unlimited power and knowledge and can do anything at any time. Then you send your "only Son" to Earth to be cruelly tortured and murdered and you do nothing to prevent that. In fact, it was all "part of Your plan! Your Grand Design!" And Christians say that God did that to open the gates of Heaven for all of us? If He is God, He didn't need to have someone die to open the gates of Heaven. He can just say, "Come on in" to everyone. Such a weird, weird thing to believe.

4points

Israel Martinez 2 years ago

Never mind that god is supposed to be all-powerful (omnipotent), all-knowing (omniscient) and all-present (omnipresent) ... omnipotence would eliminate rampant evil ... omniscience would eliminate the need for prayer and omnipresence would eliminate the need for church ... very contradicting ideas ...

1point

Katinka Min 2 years ago

I liked the old stories in the Bible, Moses, David etc. Then, when I was ten, my older sister (17) told me all those stories are just fairy tales. Also, myy Dad was a pastor so church was ncoht this magical place but basically just admin adn janitorial troubles. Funily enough, my sister refound her faith. Over time I changed from atheist to agnostic. I can't know that there is NO diety either. So I just live with a large question mark, follow humanism as a moral guide line and sincerely hope that there really is no afterlife.

3points

Israel Martinez 2 years ago

I don't dismiss the bible ... I just treat it no differently than a Steven King collection of novellas ... dark fiction with a message depending on how you interpret it ...

2points

Zophra 2 years ago

I need a bumper sticker that says "Richard Dawkins Saves." He saved me from absolute stupidity.

3points

Grace Reid 2 years ago

I am definitely a total atheist I was made to go to church every Sunday fro the age o 5-14 when I had the courage to say I should have the right to choose. I was even made to get confirmed having absolutely no idea or understanding of what it was all about. It is abusive in my opponents in my opinion to force a religion onto a child. My mother who made me go with my grandmother thought she did enough religious duty by watching songs of praise on tv on Sunday nights and attending Christmas Eve midnight mass. What a load of bs. The only thing it taught me was to be made us in his image. Is he lying in a twisted, painful body

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Lila Wells 2 years ago

I was raised as a Protestant Christian, but as soon as I moved out, I never went to church again. The reason why I dont believe in it is this: If there is a God that really loves us, why does he allow people in the world to suffer? Why does he allow wars and death to exist? Why does he allow sin? I don't understand why he wouldn't be able to stop all these issues, since he IS God. Another reason are the inaccuracies in the Bible. Many things are fully outdated, and there are several instances in the bible where it tells women to serve under men. I don't want to believe in something "holy" that tells me I'm worth less than others.

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Glirpy 2 years ago

The Greeks and Norse really had better ideas with their pantheistic theology. It is much easier to believe that there is war because there is a God of War that is swaying the hearts of men. But nowadays, it's way easier to believe that there is war because men want power over others, as well as money.

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Mary Stewart 2 years ago

Raised as a Southern Baptist missionary kid. In Togo West Africa. It was getting out into the world and seeing that all of these religions are the same recycled story and why were WE the people who got it right and needed to "save" everyone else. I faked it for years, fought to find that "thing" that everyone else was feeling, inwardly cringed through every fervent prayer. Then I graduated, moved back to the states, realized tons of people didn't go to church and hadn't been struck with horrible punishments from God and never looked back. Ironically my parents have also started their own slow journey away from religion and haven't been to a church service in well over a year.

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Valisbourne Spiritforge 2 years ago

Pretty much stopped believing in the Abrahamic religions the moment I realized that it didn't make sense for a god to create an entire universe just so the people he also created would tell him how great he was. If a being actually did that and condemned people to eternal torment because they wouldn't be part of his fan club, that really didn't sound like a being worthy of worship to me. Awe? Sure. Fear? Absolutely. Worship? No.

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UpQuarkDownQuark 2 years ago

I didn’t grow up with any formal religion, just a mosh-mash buffet of New Age, Buddhism and Christianity. When I was in my late 20s and thinking over a debate that turned into an argument with a born again fundamentalist Christian coworker from earlier in the day, I just had this epiphany. While I thought my beliefs were less capricious and self-contradictory than Christianity, they were still based on what? How I imagined the world should work? I was an atheist by the end of the week, and my love for science was reignited.

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Alexandra Grey 2 years ago

There's no hate quite like Christian "love."

2points

Pa4040 2 years ago

Religion was simply a useful guideline to keep tribes and small societies into check in the absence of exact laws and/or absence of an enforcement authority. It has been researched that the Bible has origins in many older religions and often its ideas and teachings have been re-told orally for generations, randomly leaving or adding parts to it to fir rhe current audience. Then the romans slashed through it before they made Christianity the primary religion in the empire. The very fact that people swear on it and live by it is absolutely astounding to me. If there was some semblance of a being that created the universe, it wouldn't care for us more than you care about microbes 2km deep in the earth's crust.

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LavenderAxolotl 2 years ago (edited)

I grew up in the Baptist church, and never really believed in anything that was said, but I went along with it because it was really the only time my family went out and I was happy to have friends. Then, when middle school started, everyone in the church shunned me, especially in the weekly youth groups I went to. The last straw for me was when I was abused by some of the boys in the group and then told that I was going to to hell 1. because I wasn't a virgin (not my fault) and 2. because I was depressed and started acting out. Instead of getting help and support in the church, I was met with ridicule and disbelief in anything I said. I'm so glad I got out and I'm now living a healthy, well-balanced life without the church, even though my family cut me off because of my decision. However, I know religion is a rock in many people's lives and everyone deserves happiness. So if you are religious, good for you. Just wasn't right for me, and that's ok :)

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Elaine Elder 2 years ago

At eleven a Baptist preacher molested me at Uncle's Sunday dinner. At 13, different Baptist preacher tried to molest me at same Uncle's house. He got a rock up side his head. Tried to GUILT ME into keeping quiet because I TEMPTED HIM. I was sitting on back porch steps drawing pictures in the sand. How does this logic work? Life lesson: don't go to Uncle's house on Sundays. That's where the damn devil is pretending to be a man if god.

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Mimi M 2 years ago (edited)

There is a difference between 'atheist' and 'non-religious'. While there is overlap (certainly, most atheists are non-religious - though not all of them), they should not be conflated. One can be non-religious and spiritual, agnostic, indifferent - and all shades in between. Better title would have been 'What turned you off from religion?'

2points

Sleepy Panda 2 years ago

A podcast host once said; The difference between me and your god is that if a saw a child being molested I would try my best to stop it and spare the child some trauma, your god would wait until they die to punish them, unless of course they ask for forgiveness right before. That definitely got me thinking.

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Elaine Elder 2 years ago

Catholic: man goes out and gets drunk. Comes home, beats his wife and kids. Goes to church on Sunday. Asks God to forgive him his sins. All is forgiven. Goes home. Beats wife for not putting on enough make-up to cover the beating he gave her, because she made him look bad. Primitive Southern Baptist: man beats wife once a week and twice on Sunday. It's all fine. He was baptized and let Jesus Christ into his heart, he's saved, going to heaven. Don't even have to bother with church anymore. Just rinse and repeat.

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Israel Martinez 2 years ago (edited)

For me, it was having to listen to the 'devout' speak of how blessed they were when there were just as many devout followers that were suffering ... if you're blessed for having benefits that you attribute to your faith, the logic seems to be that the same ones that follow your faith are damned since they don't have the benefits you have ... never mind that the bible itself preaches against hoarding riches, but the biggest purveyors of religion happen to be ultra-rich ... there are so many reasons I became an atheist, but I can promise you, it wasn't out of ignorance ... a true atheist has done their homework ... we don't denounce religion because we encourage anything that makes you a better person towards yourself and others ... it's the exploitation through organized religion that we are against ...

2points

Elaine Elder 2 years ago

It's in God's hands. God has a plan. God works in mysterious ways. We are a science fair project. There was a creator, now God is smoking, out behind the gym.

0points

Adrian 2 years ago

To relieve the boredom while in hospital I read the Bible (King James) cover to cover. Didn't seem to make much sense. I then read a history of how the New Testament was created - i.e. 900+ gospels (many of which were contemporary accounts) whittled down to 4 all of which were written way after the actual events. Was this the first example of censorship? There are so many holes in both the old and new testaments how could this be used to support anything - as a legal brief it would be chucked out of court. There is a joke "You spend the first 3 years of a kid's life getting him to walk and talk, then the rest of the time getting them to shut up and sit down". It dawned on me that Dr Spock had the first part covered and the Bible handled the rest. I came to the conclusion the Bible was intended as a means of control:- "shut up and don't ask questions, do as you're told and don't argue, don't rock the boat, work hard and give us your money".

2points

Tami 2 years ago

Since the Bible was written, translated, and edited by humans over time, it's bound to reflect human motivations—greed, anger, desire, jealousy, cultural trends, and such. But there are common themes that show up in all religions, and those may be worth looking into.

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Izzi 2 years ago

Raised Catholic. Started questioning when I was really young, like five or six. I didn't understand why we'd praise a god who allowed evil and then blamed it on us even though he was almighty. Also, making someone kill his son and then, right before he does it, saying "lol it was just a prank bro"??!!

1point

Terd Fergison 2 years ago

My grandparents were catholic and they tried to force it on me a little bit, but luckily my mother protected me. My mother would answer my questions honestly. Did a man really survive 3 days inside a whale or fish? No, I don't think so, she would say. I watched a ton of cartoons as a kid and my mom always helped me to establish what is fiction and what is nonfiction. The stories in the Bible always seemed like fiction to me, just like every other fiction book or show. I also had some great teachers in college show me where the Bible appropriated some of their stories from. Morality existed long before the Bible or jesus. Even codified morality existed long before the Bible in the Steele of Hammurabi.

1point

buttonpusher 2 years ago

Raised Catholic and it never made any sense to me from an early age. I was also shot down when I tried to question anything. They really hate the "Where's the actual proof?" question. I also hated how church on Sunday took priority over everything else. If I was invited somewhere with friends on a Sunday I wasn't allowed to go. And going every time there was a f****n "holy day". I just believe there's more out there that we don't know and may never know. So religion isn't something I'm going to waste my time with.

1point

Shelley McKinney 2 years ago

As a kid, I believed in God because people told me he was real. I believed in Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny for the same reason. As an adult, I started questioning things. The more questions I had, the more I didn't believe. There are way to many flaws and inconsistencies and interpretations for much of it to be true. If others want to believe simply because others have told them that its true than that is up to them. I'll need A LOT more corroborating evidence myself.

1point

Elaine Elder 2 years ago

Only allowed to believe in the one true God. But also the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. So God has Multiple Personality Disorder. That explains everything and nothing.

0points

Vicky Zar 2 years ago

I must have been an Atheist when I was a child, because at around 16 I had my catholic confirmation and the first thing I asked the Bishop was what he thought about gay people and I really did NOT like his answer!

1point

WilvanderHeijden 2 years ago

52 People Open Up About How They Became Atheists BECAUSE They Grew Up In Religious Families.

1point

Elaine Elder 2 years ago

We are just a forgotten science experiment. Our end will ultimately be a mom cleaning out a bedroom to make a guest room, after God goes off to God college.

0points

Awsomemom52 2 years ago

Just to be clear...I have no problem with "believers"...whatever religion they belong to (whatever makes you happy). Just don't don't try to "convert" me. For me, it was all the lies, the hypocrites, the unanswered questions... and the atrocities and crimes, that were and are still being committed "in the name of God". All this and the fact that there is obviously not only "the one true God", but a multiplicity of "gods" and religions. But the craziest thing is that every religion claims to be the "only one right"! Most religions are also not really based on love, but on fear...if you don't do what the religion dictates, you are "damned". If you need a religion to be a "good person", you are not actually a good person.

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Ilia Bauer 2 years ago

My great-great aunt was in Catholic school. A nun was teaching the class. Nun: The Bible says "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them." My Aunt, a genuinely curious child, asked: "But sister, what about your rosary?" The nun immediately dragged her to the office and got her expelled. Not even an attempt to b******t handwave/excuse it. Just immediate expulsion. My family have been atheists ever since, and VERY vocal about how much trash religion really is.

0points

Catherine Spencer-Mills 2 years ago

I went to church, stopped going but still sort of believed for years. I finally left when my youngest son had come home directly from school, started on his homework, and it was 9 pm and he still hadn't finished, hadn't had dinner and was crying. He has a learning disability. I asked myself, if god never gives you more than you can handle, why did he inflict my son? I can handle it, if with sorrow, but my son obviously can't. Why punish my son? Left religion and if I ever do "meet my maker" I'll do my best to kick him where it hurts - for my son.

0points

alloutbikes@yahoo.com 1 year ago

That wasn't God, that was a poor school system. Hope your boy is well and happy.

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Elaine Elder 2 years ago

My mother's parents didn't go to church. Grandpa was invited to church and he packed the younger 5 or 6 kids with my Granny into car and went.. the preacher invited them back to his house for Sunday dinner. Preacher sat down at big table in a fancy room. The wife brought in 2 plates and put them on either end of long table. Brought in food and left room. Preacher said "sit, Sit!" Grandpa asked where his wife and kids were. "Oh they eat in kitchen" Grandpa picked up his plate and went to kitchen, where kids and wives were eating soup. He sat his plate down and said "Let's go" after that, he decided no church. My father decided he wanted to raise me in a church environment for the belonging to a community part, not the religious part. He went to a different church every Sunday for several months. Found a preacher he could talk to and respect. He took us the next Sunday. That preacher was sick and the substitute was all fire and brimstone. "You're going to Hell!" He was screaming and not saying words and screaming some more. He pointed at 4 year old me and screamed I was going to hell. I was bawling. My dad decided it was a sign from God not to raise me in a church community. So I was raised closer to Buddhism than Christianity in Georgia in the 70s and 80s. My husband was dragged to church every time the doors were open until he was 15, got a job and has only been back for funerals. I go to graveside funerals only. We want to be cremated. With an AC/DC cover band at the wake and a Viking burial with fireworks above our private lake. Celebrate the Life. Celebrate the Love. "... And Nothing Else Matters ..."

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Mary Bricklin 2 years ago

Raised in a religious/atheist family (meaning my mom is Lutheran but my dad is atheist). I'll admit that I believed for a little while but after a few years of church and being told I should pray to God and believe in him and Jesus, I started questioning it. I don't remember anything specific but stuff bothered me, like the fact that I was going to church at the age of 4. Yeah, let's take young children to a place where grown ups tell us to believe in a magical overlord or we'll go to hell. It may not be brainwashing but it certainly seems close to it. What really ended things for me was going to church for my niece's baptism. The priest stood there droning on about holy water washing away the sins of her parents. My sister wasn't married to my niece's father so she was born out of wedlock. Then a few years later, here comes my nephew. He gets baptised and here's the priest talking about holy water washing away the sins of his parents. I remember being taught that children are innocent

0points

Mary Bricklin 2 years ago

, that they bear no sins. Hearing the priest talking about the sins of the parents affecting their child really sealed it for me. Up until then, I considered myself agnostic but after that I'm definitely an atheist.

1point

Nikole 2 years ago (edited)

Thank you for this article! I stopped believing about 25 years ago because I finally realized it didn't make any logical sense. My dad is also a huge history/archaeology buff, so I was well-versed in the traditions and myths of older civilizations (as someone in the article mentioned about themselves as well). Oh, I was raised "Catholic" but neither of my parents were or are particularly religious.

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Person #1,051 2 years ago

I asked my dad if he believed in god when i was 12. he said that even if god does not control what we do now, something- some one- must have started the big bang, and that was god. i think that is a good balance because you can still believe in evolution.

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alloutbikes@yahoo.com 1 year ago

Adam and eve were the first homus erectus, the first to stand up. That's where all the other people came from. I always wondered who Cain and Able married.

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Nikole 2 years ago

Why must there always be "something" though? Besides, if there is any god it's mathematics.

0points

Huddo's sister 2 years ago

Science certainly does not have to be separate to religion. I am yet to hear something about science that does not fold into my religious beliefs.

0points

David Leick 2 years ago

I have perhaps the least dramatic epiphany of atheism. I was bussing tables when I asked myself if I ever believed in God. My answer to myself was no. Maybe it was picking up other people's dishes that affected my answer, but I never looked back.

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Helen Haley 2 years ago

I was raised among some very, very catholic people. I tried really hard to believe, it did not work. Late teens/early 20's read up on a boatload of different religions, read several versions of the bible cover to cover, came out the other side atheist.

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Sky Render 2 years ago

My father in particular was quite religious and forced the whole family to attend Christian church services throughout my childhood and even into my early teen years. I... never understood any of it when I was young. My Aspie mind couldn't fathom what any of it was supposed to mean, because none of it seemed relevant or to have any sort of logical connection to the world I knew. I came to think of it as a sort of deep fantasy that the adults were all really into for some reason. I briefly tried to get into it when I was about 10 or so, only to realize as I read the text that it was even less like what was said in church and even less relevant to the world around me. Around that time I stopped even caring, and at age 16 I formally declared myself an atheist. Strictly speaking, I always had been, but that was the point that I dropped all pretext and just admitted that religion was not for me.

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Tami 2 years ago

Certainly there's no god as imagined by most religions, but certainly there are forces and realities we've not yet realized. Perhaps those are what religions are trying to describe, but they're limited by the knowledge of mankind and tainted by primitive survival instincts.

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Freder 2 years ago

Common sense.

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Rale 2 years ago

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just_a_snake_in_a_hat 2 years ago

Yeah Prove it

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miss miss 2 years ago

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Nikole 2 years ago

Oh shut up. The world is made for you monotheists.

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cybermerlin2000 2 years ago

17points

Cuddly Panda 2 years ago

I really wish this was voted higher.

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Elaine Elder 2 years ago

1point

Nikole 2 years ago

AMEN!

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Piet Puk 2 years ago

So happy to read about all the people finding their way towards reality!

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James016 2 years ago

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Lilith the Demon Panda 2 years ago

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Kyndal T 2 years ago

10points

JessRS 2 years ago

Cut ties, honey, you don't need that crap in your life.

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Lovin' Life 2 years ago

8points

Huddo's sister 2 years ago

I totally agree!

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Mark Fuller 2 years ago

8points

Caro Caro 2 years ago

My so went to a catholic school. He hated it and the priests hitting him (and that priest getting a hard on) and nobody did a friggin thing about it.

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ADHORTATOR 2 years ago (edited)

My favorite class in school was Religion (in Germany, it is mandatory) I argued all the time with the teachers and they loved me - finally a student who is participating in class :-)

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Huddo's sister 2 years ago

That's great!

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Philler Space 2 years ago

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Ozacoter 2 years ago

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alloutbikes@yahoo.com 1 year ago

That is the organized religion. You can have your faith without any of that. The crazy is people defining what they believe, not what you have to believe.

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Nikki Sevven 2 years ago

5points

Elaine Elder 2 years ago

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Random Anon 2 years ago

5points

Elaine Elder 2 years ago

Christians have become adept at the art of Pick N Choose, out of context, WORDS of God.

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Walking On Sunshine 2 years ago

5points

MimSorensson 2 years ago

It is! A great, great gift!

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Ben Cohen 2 years ago

I lived in the basement of a "man of god" who had "church" at his house but treated us, his tenants, like we were third or fourth class citizens... not worth anything but a pay check for him.

5points

Bernd Herbert 2 years ago

I started reading about Christianity when I was about 15 years old, the real history, how it was made. That was it for me…never really believed in the magic bits anyway

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Glirpy 2 years ago

4points

Israel Martinez 2 years ago

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Katinka Min 2 years ago

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Israel Martinez 2 years ago

I don't dismiss the bible ... I just treat it no differently than a Steven King collection of novellas ... dark fiction with a message depending on how you interpret it ...

2points

Zophra 2 years ago

I need a bumper sticker that says "Richard Dawkins Saves." He saved me from absolute stupidity.

3points

Grace Reid 2 years ago

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Lila Wells 2 years ago

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Glirpy 2 years ago

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Mary Stewart 2 years ago

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Valisbourne Spiritforge 2 years ago

3points

UpQuarkDownQuark 2 years ago

3points

Alexandra Grey 2 years ago

There's no hate quite like Christian "love."

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Pa4040 2 years ago

2points

LavenderAxolotl 2 years ago (edited)

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Elaine Elder 2 years ago

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Mimi M 2 years ago (edited)

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Sleepy Panda 2 years ago

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Elaine Elder 2 years ago

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Israel Martinez 2 years ago (edited)

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Elaine Elder 2 years ago

It's in God's hands. God has a plan. God works in mysterious ways. We are a science fair project. There was a creator, now God is smoking, out behind the gym.

0points

Adrian 2 years ago

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Tami 2 years ago

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Izzi 2 years ago

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Terd Fergison 2 years ago

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buttonpusher 2 years ago

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Shelley McKinney 2 years ago

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Elaine Elder 2 years ago

Only allowed to believe in the one true God. But also the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. So God has Multiple Personality Disorder. That explains everything and nothing.

0points

Vicky Zar 2 years ago

1point

WilvanderHeijden 2 years ago

52 People Open Up About How They Became Atheists BECAUSE They Grew Up In Religious Families.

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Elaine Elder 2 years ago

We are just a forgotten science experiment. Our end will ultimately be a mom cleaning out a bedroom to make a guest room, after God goes off to God college.

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Awsomemom52 2 years ago

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Ilia Bauer 2 years ago

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Catherine Spencer-Mills 2 years ago

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alloutbikes@yahoo.com 1 year ago

That wasn't God, that was a poor school system. Hope your boy is well and happy.

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Elaine Elder 2 years ago

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Mary Bricklin 2 years ago

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Mary Bricklin 2 years ago

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Nikole 2 years ago (edited)

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Person #1,051 2 years ago

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alloutbikes@yahoo.com 1 year ago

Adam and eve were the first homus erectus, the first to stand up. That's where all the other people came from. I always wondered who Cain and Able married.

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