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“It’s Just A Hobby”: Family Hijack Woman’s Comic Con Table To Promote Her 8-Year-Old Niece
“It’s Just A Hobby”: Family Hijack Woman’s Comic Con Table To Promote Her 8-Year-Old Niece
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“It’s Just A Hobby”: Family Hijack Woman’s Comic Con Table To Promote Her 8-Year-Old Niece

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Our social circle greatly influences our worldview. So those who do not know any police officers, archeologists, or singers might inadvertently mysticize their jobs.

An artist is one of those professions that many fail to understand and, therefore, show the respect that it deserves. This woman, for example, has to endure her family members calling her work a hobby.

In a candid Reddit post, she said that the situation had gotten so bad that they even used her status to promote her 8-year-old niece, refusing to acknowledge that it had damaged her livelihood.

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    This artist allowed her 8-year-old niece to have some space on her comic con table

    Image credits: Michael Burrows / Pexels (not the actual photo)

    But the girl’s parents thought it was not enough and demanded more

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    Image credits:  Julia M Cameron / Pexels (not the actual photo)

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    This woman’s family missed so many signs that she’s a professional, it’s as if they didn’t want to admit it

    Sometimes, the line between enthusiasts and pros can be blurry. So we got in touch with Matt Tommey, who has been portraying nature through sculptural works of art for three decades, to get a better understanding of how to distinguish them.

    According to him, a good place to start is taking a closer look at a person’s approach to their craft. “Typically, professionals have developed a recognizable style that is unique to them and desirable to potential clients in the marketplace,” Tommey told Bored Panda. “They have a confident pricing model that allows them to make money on every sale, regardless of whether they sell directly to clients or through partners.”

    “They have also created a marketing strategy for selling their work that fits their personality, lifestyle, artistic, and income goals. However, one of the most significant factors for artists who can transition from hobbyist to professional is regular studio time,” he highlighted. “Hobbyists tend to be what I call “ENT Artists” — those who only create every now and then.”

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    Professionals, on the other hand, make it a habit. They “create daily, recognizing that their regular studio time is an accelerator for both their income and inspiration.”

    “Lastly, professional artists treat their art like a business rather than a whimsical passion,” Tommey added. “I always tell my students, ‘You can’t have business dreams with hobby habits.’ In other words, your dreams must be supported by daily habits of creating, marketing, and selling your work. With a clear vision, great work, and commitment to pursuing their art daily, hobbyists can absolutely make the transition to becoming professionals.”

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    Judging from the post, the artist’s family must’ve seen the obvious signs that she’s already an established name in the industry who does this for a living. But maybe, for some reason, they didn’t want to.

    Tommey believes that the reason why many of us see art as a hobby rather than a profession can be very nuanced. “Most people have a history of some artistic expression as children but, unfortunately, had no context for being able to take that further in their life as a potential career. Consequently, our Western culture often teaches people to value other types of work that seem more able to provide a steady income and downplay careers in the arts,” he said.

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    This suggests that society doesn’t always value artists as much as they deserve. “The typical ‘starving artist’ stereotype and the perception that artists are lazy, unmotivated, and self-absorbed has historically led to artists being undervalued in society.”

    However, in his opinion, this mindset is gradually changing. “With the rise of the gig economy and solopreneurship, creative people are seeing others who are making a great living from selling their art, giving them context for what might be possible in their own lives. They are learning the power of entrepreneurship to create a life that is both fulfilling and profitable, allowing them to create not only art but also an artistic life that enables them to make a living and make an impact in the world.”

    Tommey has observed that as people see artists thriving personally, creatively, and financially, that perception shifts to one that values artists as contributing members of society. “They contribute far beyond what they contribute to the economy,” he noted. “Artists offer a varied and beautiful lens through which to see the world. Their perspectives challenge the status quo and invite others to interpret life differently. Through their work, artists offer an invitation to a world that is full of possibility, beauty, truth, and wonder and that is valuable on its own.”

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    Hopefully, the woman’s family will realize that soon.

    As her story went viral, the woman joined the discussion in its comments

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    Rokas Laurinavičius

    Rokas Laurinavičius

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    Rokas Laurinavičius

    Rokas Laurinavičius

    Writer, Senior Writer

    Rokas is a writer at Bored Panda with a BA in Communication. After working for a sculptor, he fell in love with visual storytelling and enjoys covering everything from TV shows (any Sopranos fans out there?) to photography. Throughout his years in Bored Panda, over 300 million people have read the posts he's written, which is probably more than he could count to.

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    StumblingThroughLife
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's difficult out in the real world with plenty of AHs, but there is nothing worse than 'family' AHs because it hits you a lot harder than it would strangers. I hate people like this - so entitled and derogatory. I can understand her position and the guilt her so-called relatives forced on her. In the 70s, my mum refused to let my brother go to Art College when he'd completed secondary school, saying it was a wasted career. He was (and still is) a fantastic artist - he mainly focussed on comic-book art. He seemed to lose the will to do anything for quite a while until my dad had a long convo with him & got him to look for a job. He ended up being a Toolsetter (which he hated) and now he's (still, at 64) driving Artic(ulated) Lorries, and hasn't botherred with his art since. 😢 I know I post a lot of things I've experienced or have witnessed, but it's only because I'm an old fart with lots of stories to tell. Please excuse my verbiage. x

    Susie Elle
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Parents are leeching off of OP's success, the niece is eight years old for crying out loud.

    Laura Williams
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Niece definitely doesn't need the stress at 8. She hasn't even finished grade school.

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    Royal Stray
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA, I hate people like this who don't think "nerdy hobbies" are real jobs. Artists like OP work really hard to sell and make all of their stuff, and if it's her only income then of course she can't babysit or show off her nieces fanarts. It's cute that she looks up to OP, but this isn't healthy since the parents clearly think that their kid is on the same level as OP. Of course she can't have a table at a convention, she's 8. It's good that she's starting early but she isn't an artist. It can be hard enough for single artists to even get a table at places like this, of course she can't have a kid hanging around. Besides depending on what OP does or how big she is having a kid sell stuff there could even throw people off from wanting to buy from her since it doesn't look as serious or professional as some other tables. Op needs to set firm boundaries and perhaps explain a bit of how her work world looks like.

    StumblingThroughLife
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    100% agree. The amount of posts around where paper/canvas/graphic artists & Photographers have entitled DHs who demand stuff for free, and get really offensive when told the prices - and say, as you mentioned, that it isn't a real job. I honestly wouldn't give them airtime if I was the woman in the post. That child is in for a massive emotional fall if they keep doing what they are, and she get sucked in.

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    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Stop being nice and start pointing out the crazy to the whole extended family. Try “Having niece at my table cost me $6000 in sales. I’m not doing that again and they are crazy to think otherwise.”

    Rowboat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, something tells me that the parents of that kid are telling a completely different story to the extended family. It would be interesting to see what would happen if they knew the truth.

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    Ephemera Image
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly, most artists' families think it is 'not a real job' and will continually ask for free work. Photographers, graphic design, fine art, apparently because 'you're doing what you LOVE so you should be happy to give it to us for freeee!' Been there, done that, grew a spine and said nope, unless I get paid, it's a not-go. Any customer that tries to rewrite the contract gets squat as well. I really resented not being seen as a 'professional

    Ephemeral Mochi
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've noticed that this is a common pattern, people discrediting and degrading artists' work just because it's art and not some other job.

    Erika
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A point not being addressed here that the OP brought up: She had to submit a portfolio to enter the event. My husband has dealt with the art fair scene and the high-end shows are usually "juried". The point of that is so the organizers know what is going to be on display at the show as well as to assess quality or prevent a glut of the same type of work. This also means that an artist may be asked to leave the show and/or not allowed to return in the future if the work they are showing does not match what was submitted for the jury review, and the contracts clearly state that. Assuming these comicons have a similar policy, the OP runs the risk of being banned for displaying work that was not reviewed by the organizers.

    Royal Stray
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They do not at all. Comic con is pretty much a huge even for nerdy stuff. Where artists can sell all kinds of merch, and cosplayers can compete and show off their new looks. There isn't really a talent cap for anyone, but even getting a table unless you're part of a big circle can be difficult and expensive. Usually these artists live of their reputation in fan communities, and depending on the community they may not really be interested in someone having a little kid there, especially not if the kid is trying to get them to buy their stuff instead of an artist. These places are usually pretty full as well so if OP isn't super well known having her table blocked is horrible as, like she said people can't see what she does and won't wait for her table to become unblocked

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    Rodg Chr
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Precisely the entitled nonsense that is sending America on a runaway rail to self-destruction. It is the same stunted mentality that puts these kids in beauty pageants and TV commercials. Just wait until they hit 10-11 and the "cute" doesn't work any more. "You mean, I'm NOT special?"

    Rowboat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being an adult and an artist is difficult, burnout is a real problem. Imagine burning out before you even hit 10 because your parents put so much pressure on you to be successful AND ruined your relationship with your aunt to boot.

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    Hannah Taylor
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. "No" is a complete sentence and an effective weapon; don't be hesitant to use it, especially against fa-a-a-a-mily. We're talking about your livelihood, not a seasonal lemonade stand. Niece can handle local craft faires; so can her entitled parents. Don't set yourself on fire to keep ungrateful people warm. The more you give them, the more they'll demand. If you should end up in dire straits because of your fa-a-a-a-mily, chances are that they won't lift a finger to help you. You alone are responsible for keeping a roof over your head and food on your table; YOU call the shots.

    Natasha Clark
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA.. but an idiot to agree to this arrangement in the first place. You can encourage your niece at a different & smaller event. If aware this is a convention that covers a portion of your rent & it's huge too then should've said no to them. I don't believe you expected your niece to get that much attention, which was clearly away from your table. As for the parents they appear extremely entitled & expect everyone to bend over backwards for their child. Put your foot down more with them or they'll continue to pursue you on this.

    Anxious&Bored Bear
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The kid will probably have a different interest in a month or so: Maybe the parents can leech off of someone else in the family.

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    StumblingThroughLife
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's difficult out in the real world with plenty of AHs, but there is nothing worse than 'family' AHs because it hits you a lot harder than it would strangers. I hate people like this - so entitled and derogatory. I can understand her position and the guilt her so-called relatives forced on her. In the 70s, my mum refused to let my brother go to Art College when he'd completed secondary school, saying it was a wasted career. He was (and still is) a fantastic artist - he mainly focussed on comic-book art. He seemed to lose the will to do anything for quite a while until my dad had a long convo with him & got him to look for a job. He ended up being a Toolsetter (which he hated) and now he's (still, at 64) driving Artic(ulated) Lorries, and hasn't botherred with his art since. 😢 I know I post a lot of things I've experienced or have witnessed, but it's only because I'm an old fart with lots of stories to tell. Please excuse my verbiage. x

    Susie Elle
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Parents are leeching off of OP's success, the niece is eight years old for crying out loud.

    Laura Williams
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Niece definitely doesn't need the stress at 8. She hasn't even finished grade school.

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    Royal Stray
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA, I hate people like this who don't think "nerdy hobbies" are real jobs. Artists like OP work really hard to sell and make all of their stuff, and if it's her only income then of course she can't babysit or show off her nieces fanarts. It's cute that she looks up to OP, but this isn't healthy since the parents clearly think that their kid is on the same level as OP. Of course she can't have a table at a convention, she's 8. It's good that she's starting early but she isn't an artist. It can be hard enough for single artists to even get a table at places like this, of course she can't have a kid hanging around. Besides depending on what OP does or how big she is having a kid sell stuff there could even throw people off from wanting to buy from her since it doesn't look as serious or professional as some other tables. Op needs to set firm boundaries and perhaps explain a bit of how her work world looks like.

    StumblingThroughLife
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    100% agree. The amount of posts around where paper/canvas/graphic artists & Photographers have entitled DHs who demand stuff for free, and get really offensive when told the prices - and say, as you mentioned, that it isn't a real job. I honestly wouldn't give them airtime if I was the woman in the post. That child is in for a massive emotional fall if they keep doing what they are, and she get sucked in.

    Load More Replies...
    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Stop being nice and start pointing out the crazy to the whole extended family. Try “Having niece at my table cost me $6000 in sales. I’m not doing that again and they are crazy to think otherwise.”

    Rowboat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, something tells me that the parents of that kid are telling a completely different story to the extended family. It would be interesting to see what would happen if they knew the truth.

    Load More Replies...
    Ephemera Image
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly, most artists' families think it is 'not a real job' and will continually ask for free work. Photographers, graphic design, fine art, apparently because 'you're doing what you LOVE so you should be happy to give it to us for freeee!' Been there, done that, grew a spine and said nope, unless I get paid, it's a not-go. Any customer that tries to rewrite the contract gets squat as well. I really resented not being seen as a 'professional

    Ephemeral Mochi
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've noticed that this is a common pattern, people discrediting and degrading artists' work just because it's art and not some other job.

    Erika
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A point not being addressed here that the OP brought up: She had to submit a portfolio to enter the event. My husband has dealt with the art fair scene and the high-end shows are usually "juried". The point of that is so the organizers know what is going to be on display at the show as well as to assess quality or prevent a glut of the same type of work. This also means that an artist may be asked to leave the show and/or not allowed to return in the future if the work they are showing does not match what was submitted for the jury review, and the contracts clearly state that. Assuming these comicons have a similar policy, the OP runs the risk of being banned for displaying work that was not reviewed by the organizers.

    Royal Stray
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They do not at all. Comic con is pretty much a huge even for nerdy stuff. Where artists can sell all kinds of merch, and cosplayers can compete and show off their new looks. There isn't really a talent cap for anyone, but even getting a table unless you're part of a big circle can be difficult and expensive. Usually these artists live of their reputation in fan communities, and depending on the community they may not really be interested in someone having a little kid there, especially not if the kid is trying to get them to buy their stuff instead of an artist. These places are usually pretty full as well so if OP isn't super well known having her table blocked is horrible as, like she said people can't see what she does and won't wait for her table to become unblocked

    Load More Replies...
    Rodg Chr
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Precisely the entitled nonsense that is sending America on a runaway rail to self-destruction. It is the same stunted mentality that puts these kids in beauty pageants and TV commercials. Just wait until they hit 10-11 and the "cute" doesn't work any more. "You mean, I'm NOT special?"

    Rowboat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being an adult and an artist is difficult, burnout is a real problem. Imagine burning out before you even hit 10 because your parents put so much pressure on you to be successful AND ruined your relationship with your aunt to boot.

    Load More Replies...
    Hannah Taylor
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. "No" is a complete sentence and an effective weapon; don't be hesitant to use it, especially against fa-a-a-a-mily. We're talking about your livelihood, not a seasonal lemonade stand. Niece can handle local craft faires; so can her entitled parents. Don't set yourself on fire to keep ungrateful people warm. The more you give them, the more they'll demand. If you should end up in dire straits because of your fa-a-a-a-mily, chances are that they won't lift a finger to help you. You alone are responsible for keeping a roof over your head and food on your table; YOU call the shots.

    Natasha Clark
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA.. but an idiot to agree to this arrangement in the first place. You can encourage your niece at a different & smaller event. If aware this is a convention that covers a portion of your rent & it's huge too then should've said no to them. I don't believe you expected your niece to get that much attention, which was clearly away from your table. As for the parents they appear extremely entitled & expect everyone to bend over backwards for their child. Put your foot down more with them or they'll continue to pursue you on this.

    Anxious&Bored Bear
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The kid will probably have a different interest in a month or so: Maybe the parents can leech off of someone else in the family.

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