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Anti-Vaxx Mom Tries To Bring Her Unvaccinated Kids Around Best Friend’s Infant, She Leaves A Brutal Comment
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Anti-Vaxx Mom Tries To Bring Her Unvaccinated Kids Around Best Friend’s Infant, She Leaves A Brutal Comment

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The anti-vaxxer community is no longer just a radical group on the internet that inspires memes but has led to a very real outbreak of more than 200 cases across 11 states. The situation is so dire that the The US Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions held a congressional hearing called “Vaccines Save Lives: What is Driving Preventable Disease Outbreaks?” to discuss how they were going to handle the situation.

While lawmakers are going back and forth about the possibility of mandatory vaccinations, parents are not waiting around and taking matters into their own hands in order to protect their kids. One woman in Portland, located in one of the hardest hit regions, wrote a scathing post about how to handle these anti-vaxxers, that shows this crisis has not only affected people’s health but also their relationships. (Facebook cover image: sisterwisdom)

A mother took to Facebook to call out anti-vaxxers in a brutal post, which targeted her former best friend of 15 years

Image credits: Sagie (not the actual photo)

Published in the sub-reddit group r/insanepeoplefacebook the Portland mother slammed her anti-vaxxer former friend, Emma, for almost putting her infant daughter in danger by attempting to bring her unvaccinated children to meet up with her and her child, who was too young to be vaccinated.

According to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, children can receive their first measles vaccine (MMR) at 12 months and the second before entering school from ages 4-6. If young children are infected by measles the effects can be extremely serious. The disease can lead to pneumonia, encephalitis (swelling of the brain and even death.

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The woman goes on to say that Emma didn’t inform her that she would be exposing her child to diseases any “any responsible parent would have vaccinated their of-age children against.” She criticized the anti-vaxxer mom’s behavior calling it “selfish,” and “reckless.” In the end, she adds that since the woman is “unable to determine the differences between a health blog and peer-reviewed fact-based science” the best solution is that she and her fellow conspiracy theorists “found another planet and moved there.”

People in the comments agreed with the mom’s harsh words

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Sofie Tapia is a journalism graduate from the University of Kentucky. She is now a free-spirited content creator who wanders the globe rearranging words for various outlets. She previously worked as a reporter for Lebanon Daily News and worked as an editor at both Al-Masry Al-Youm and Egypt Independent. She can be reached at Sofie@BoredPanda.com

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Sunzilla
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The is no such thing as Anti-Vaxx. It's Pro-Plague. Read that on Twitter today and I wholeheartedly agree. Disease-spreading imbeciles...

Aunt Messy
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The comment that kills me is the moron who thinks there are "too many" vaccines. Really? What diseases do you want your child to get? Vaccinations are about public health. They should NOT be voluntary - they should be the law. Thankfully school districts are wising up and not letting phoney "religious" exemptions destroy herd immunity in their buildings.

Just saying
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, different countries vaccinate for different things - so the UK doesn't currently vaccinate against chicken pox presumably because the cost vs danger level analysis doesn't support it, but in the US I think you do - so there are going to be 'borderline'' illnesses which some countries vax for and others don't, which might make someone in one country ask if a particular vax is necessary if another (responsible) country doesn't. In the UK we vax for HPV at age 12 and I don't know if the US does that, so that could be another 'borderline' illness. But yes, measles, mumps, rubella, diptheria, polio, tetanus and I think some of the meningitises the UK vaxxes for. It's not compulsory though and we're having soem of the same problems with anti vaxxers.

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Gonzalo Terán
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anti-vaxx and Flatearthers... What´s next? Sacriface virgin girls to the glory of the Sun God? Inquisition 2.0? 21st. Century, people...

Scott Lloyd
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope its not the sacrificing of virgin girls to the sun god. Would the sun accept anti-vaxx and flatearthers instead?

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Bored Phoenix
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is shocking. You put a small child at risk. All because you are stupid enough to not vaccinate your child.

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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is so wholly disgusting! You are putting a tiny baby at risk of DEATH all because you're too self centred and wrapped up in your own world and idiocy to think straight. If anyone's an antivaxer here... YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE, AND PUTTING YOUR OWN CHILD AT RISK!

SadieSummers
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand the logic of pro-plaguers. They still expose their child to the disease, which could kill them, but they don't want to get a vaccine? Which is the weakest form of the disease so that the child becomes immune without having a risk of dying. And please, too many vaccines? I'd rather have too many vaccines than potentially die of polio.

Jo Choto
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just don't understand how anti-vaxxers come up with their conclusions when there is overwhelming evidence from every reliable source imaginable that vaccines save lives.

Uwe Theiss
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Google "Dunning-Kruger-Effect". Then you will understand. They never had a chance.

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BETTY
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that anyone who believes in the Anti-Vaccine should have to spend an afternoon walking through a hundred year old cemetery, reading each of the tombstones. If they were to do that, they would come across family plots where entire families, multiple children, died within weeks of each other. This was usually because of exposure to a contagious disease that would cause the death of almost all the younger children. When you walk through the cemetery, seeing those, you should have to sign paperwork acknowledging that the same thing could happen to your family and to any families they come in contact with while contagious just by not protecting you and your

Aunt Messy
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Many older cemeteries have sections that are just for infants and small children. The grave stones are generally marble, so they're worn smooth, but they're row upon row of tiny stones - all dead children, most of whom died because of infectious diseases.

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Danin Larksy
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dear Anti-Vaccinators Please Do not use Autism as a fear tactic. Using a condom will reduce sexually transmitted diseases. Vaccinating will not reduce neurodevelopmental disorders. In my genes there are markers that were passed onto me and I have passed those onto my 4 children. They will pass those onto their children. Welcome to Evolution! That is life. Do not use my genetic mutation as propaganda that shows bigotry and discrimination at its core. I am not your campaign mascot. Welcome to the world of human evolution.

Emma B
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For the record, this was not me! I'm in Canada and do not have children. If I did have children, they would have all the vaccinations as soon as they could!

Wil Vanderheijden
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At least Facebook is going to make an effort and shut the Anti-vaxx groups down. Now we need some bold lawmakers to make vaccination mandatory and we'll soon be back to where we were 20 years ago on the matter of disease control.

Jilltdcatlady
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your comment gave me chills. "We'll soon be back to where we were 20 years ago on the matter of disease control". Just thinking how far intelligence has been repressed.

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Sage Jay
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People saying that mandatory vaccines would just be 'allowing the government to mandate things that aren't medically necessary' are oblivious to the fact that protecting your child's health and well-being IS necessary. NOT vaccinating your child is nothing short of negligence, aka child abuse. Just like only feeding your child lettuce would be negligence, since you are NEGLECTING TO FEED YOUR CHILD. Or if your kid is coughing up blood and you don't take them to the hospital, you are NEGLECTING YOUR CHILD. Why is willingly exposing your children to possibly deadly diseases simply a 'choice'?

Cheryl Wilcox
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it is the potential harm to others that makes mandatory vaccines make sense. It's in the best interest of the whole society.

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diane a
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only reason kids today get more is that they have developed more since the first ones were introduced. In the 1970's there were vaccinations for 7 diseases. 6 of them were comined as 2 seperate vaccines -MMR and DTP. In the mid 80's it was 8 diseases. With the development of protection against chicken pox in the mid 90's then Hepatitis A ,Rotavirus and some others by 2010 there were vaccines against 14 diseases (still 6 combined as 2). Not counting HPV.

Christina Pusel Koenig
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Fun fact, when I was a toddler in the late 70's (before a vaccine) I brought home chicken pox from daycare and gave it to my newborn sister, who got such a bad case she ended up hospitalized and nearly died. People who think chicken pox is just a harmless part of childhood are idiots.

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James Kistler
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It started when we stopped selling lawn darts because stupid people were getting hurt. Those stupid people that would have been removed from the gene pool found other stupid people and had stupider kids; or second generation stupids. Those second generation stupids located other second generation stupids and again had stupier kids; third generation stupids. Were are on 4G stupids and they are everywhere, even Congress.

Laura Bauer
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately, the last three generations have never seen a deadly plague like polio. They haven't had to watch their school aged friends become disabled or dead from a plague. Some people have the mind set that it can't happen to me or mine, and decide to not vaccinate. Now that there is a measles outbreak, we will see children die from preventable disease, I would wager that the current young generation will be vaccinating their children

Eileen Haas-Linde
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We adopted a little girl from Kazakhstan who had been partially paralyzed by polio in 1997. (That is NOT a typo. All of these diseases still exist in Third World Countries where they do not have vaccinations available to everyone. They are simply not reported, for various reasons. ) About every two years, she had to have a MAJOR surgery where she wore a full body cast for months at a time. I never knew a braver person. She began to have seizures when she was a teenager, and, slightly after she turned 21, she had one in the shower and drowned in the bathtub. Anti-vaxxers are constantly telling me that "kids are dying from vaccines". Well, here's one who died from polio. Her name was Karina Marie Linde. She was a beautiful soul, and wanted to be a special ed teacher. This is the photo that we used on her funeral cards. karina-fun...58b7d2.jpg karina-funeral-card-photo-5c893f958b7d2.jpg

Renee Schleifer
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a teenager I was walking in the street and somehow a rusty nail went into my foot. My mom washed out where the nail had been. I went to sleep but woke up in pain with my leg all swollen. I was taken to the emergency room, and was told that I had tetanus I was given a scratch test to see whether I was allergic to the antidote, I had a severe reaction to the antidote, I'm not certain what I was given but whatever it was saved my life. The last time I rec'd a tetanus shot was when I had a terrible burn on my hand, I also was given another shot , I think for the throbbing pain I had. I'm very grateful for the vaccines that are available nowadays. They do save people from some of the worse diseases that many people have never heard of that do cause life changing illnesses and have saved many lives.

KarmaQueen
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never though about this possibility. So, now new mothers have to ask every parent that has kids if they have been vaccinated. Stop this insanity!

Magpie
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

" ...when i was a kid...we had less vaccines...." HELLLLOOO the medical technology is constantly improving so more vaccines are available. That the doctors did not know how to make when you were a kid. .....Hellloooooo? any body in that skull ? didn't think so.

SandraG_lak
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it is safe to assume that the majority the pro-plaguers were vaccinated when they were infants and children. So unfortunately they would be spared from an impending vaccine-preventable plague.

Elaine Dodge
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Brandon Lumsden, your membership cards to the Flat-Earth Society, Conspiracies Unlimited and Google Degrees Anonymous are ready for collection. Unfortunately, you will have to return to school to get your basic education diploma.

Xoxo
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a healthcare professional I want to ask that everyone gets vaccinated. There is no reason for you or your family to suffer needlessly. Please stop believing the lies that vaccines exist for any reason beyond saving you and those around you from a painful end.

Lynn-Marie Lynn-Marie
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LOVE the Pro-Plague instead of Anti-Vaxx! Having had the Shingles myself TWICE - once at only age 14 (yep) which permanently screwed up my vision - and again as an adult - I would WHOLEHEARTEDLY have accepted a Chicken-Pox Vaxx! SO SO SO PAINFUL!!!

Natasha Forchione
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What gets me is that people before us figured out how to protect people from these diseases and thought they had done something amazing for humanity. If they were to see us now they would seriously think our brains had shrunk in the future.

Nikki D
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This pro plague (thanks sunzilla) BS has gone too far. It's getting very dangerous and scary.

Nikki D
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I honestly can't believe this movement hasn't fizzled out. If anything, it seems to be growing.

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Esther
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good job! I know it was hard breaking your relationship with your best friend, but you did the right thing for safety of your child.

Kim Lorton
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

U fortunately, a pregnant woman’s baby still in the womb, is not any safer. In fact, it is even more dangerous for a pregnant woman to be around or exposed to the measles! It can result in some well known birth defects, like deafness, and others. So, if you are pregnant, and for some reason aren’t vaccinated, and even if you had the disease or you were vaccinated, stay as far away from unvaccinated kids and people as possible. If you find out you are exposed to the measles, let your obstetrician know right away. Antivacci aged kids are dangerous to be around.

Allayna
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if you are anti-vax; Hmm, polio, measles, hepatitis, etc v.s. autism. It honestly just doesn't make sense.

Steve
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cyanide is a proven vaccine alternative. Everyone who takes it never gets sick again! We should make it available to everyone who doesn't believe in vaccination.

diane a
Community Member
5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When i was a kid - late 60's - we got smallpopx vaccine and a couple more - got the polio sugar lump age 8- thank god for Dyptheria vaccine. The others were just coming into use. 1966/7 0- I got measles. Almost died. then I got mumps 1971- nasty thing - my brother also - he ended up infertile.. Chicken pox was horrendous at 11.Just vaccinate against anything that can kill or affect long-term

OMEGA
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

anti-vaxxer people are just the pay to win DLC in plague inc

Frozengeckolover
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"birth control vaccine". Lol. We kind of already have that. It's called Birth Control.

Michael Sieve
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you don't want to vax fine but then we don't have to let you out of your bubble. Make the anti-vax live in an anti-vax town. Then in 10 years check on their extinction.

Ashley Say Wha?!?
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a pharmacist and I totally understand vaccines very well. I'm totally against anti-Vaccination but sadly, my sister, who was a nurse, and her husband, who is a doctor, were influenced by a documentary and have refused to vaccinate all three of their children. I love them all dearly, but how can they believe that nonsense while being so educated and immersed in the health field? I mean, they see the affects of this stuff first hand! I pray for my nieces and nephews since they have no choice in the matter. :( (PS, my sister and brother in law are not flat earthers, thank God.)

Linda Robinett
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are a lot of stupid anti scientific things such as Creationism and flat worlders but they don't harm people. Anti Vaxxers are dangerous

JessyJoy
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm so fed up of all these anti-vax stories... I come on here for a laugh, not a hate fest

David Jeu
Community Member
5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People opposed to vaccination represent around 2% of the population. Can we stop focusing on the 2% dumbest people ? https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/anti-vaxxer-effect-on-vaccination-rates-is-exaggerated-92630

ThatJeremyKid
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

can we talk about the guy who thinks vaccines aren't "medically necessary"? Um... people who trek miles barefoot to get a vaccine sure think it's medically necessary...

Mira
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wll, I'm with her. If anyone would have done that to my baby it would have ended differently, surely not on internet platforms, I'm more like face-to-face kind of girl. If you're an ignorant-anti-vaxx-paranoid-imbecile you should keep yourself and your disease-bearer-offsprings at a distance from people who don't want their kids at risk of long-gone plagues... I hope it's clear what I meant to say...

Kathleen Brewew
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I grew up with 2 neighbors that had polio. 1 was in a wheelchair & the other walked with a brace on her leg. This was before the polio vaccine. When my children were old enough to receive vaccinations I had no problem at all with them getting vaccinated. People need to understand that just because they no long see the results of these diseases they are very real. Without vaccinations many would die or be handicapped from the disease. Please Vaccinate your children.

MD Martinez
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem I think is because these diseases have been out of the public eye people have forgotten how devastating they could be. If even one child's death could be prevented isn't it worth it?

Desiree Cretan
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not supporting the idiot in the article but a baby has no immune system to fight anything, anything could get them sick, give your kids the basic vaccines, at least they are not walking around like a virus magnet to infect others around you.

danielw
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

seeing as how I hope to one day move to mars... no. please NO. Let's send them to a different galaxy instead. might take a while. bring plenty of canned air.

Lisa Bo Bisa
Community Member
5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How are we overlooking the comment about birth control vaccines?

Eileen Haas-Linde
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having raised two teenage girls, I actually liked the idea of making people reach adulthood (at least legal age) before reproducing. Obviously it's a slippery slope and gives the government too much control over our lives, but otherwise, it's hard to say that it's a bad idea.

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Bill
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Emma just assumed that the writer wasn't too attached to her new baby on account that the baby was new.

Danin Larksy
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5 years ago

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kathryn stretton
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not even ok for parents to not vaccinate their children in my view. Who tne f**k are they to make tbe idiot decision to put their own, and other's children at such risk? This is why, unfortunately for freedoms, tne government makes such rules.vaccinate, vaccinate. Idiots !!!

diane a
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anti-vaxxers should simply be against themselves having children - because of the risk of Autism. Issue solved.

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SirPatTheCat
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The person who said it’s naturally selection is wrong. Pro-Plaguers are trying to taking us all out with them. It’s a full scale suicide mission from aliens who want to take out earth.

Bill
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if all these states that pass mandatory vaccination bills pass price controls as well?

Aileen
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only thing I disagree with about having mandatory vaccines is that some people who have disorders in their immune system who physically cannot receive vaccines for certain diseases will still be forced to receive them. And these mandatory vaccines will include some that even pro-vaxx people usually avoid.

Chris Jones
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There would obviously be exemptions for people who would not be able to tolerate the vaccine safely!! They would just need to have proof provided by their doctor. Exactly what vaccines would be included that some pro-vaxx people usually avoid and how do you know this?

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Alex Garcia
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I hope people realize that this isn’t just the religious communities doing this, this is also wholistic families as well. Just people who don’t really believe fully in modern medicine. The main problem though I feel is that the oldest vaccines should be mandatory. The ones that help the most basic diseases. If a parent though is concerned about a newer vaccine that has only been in circulation for a couple years/decades then talk to your doctor about it! Science is not perfect and things are constantly changing or being discovered but the basics of measles and mumps and such are a must. The only thing i don’t hear much in these conversations is that how many illegal immigrants or refugees are getting the vaccines too? This is a two way street. Vaccines for all means ALL. Not just the normal American family.

Eileen Haas-Linde
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You mean providing illegals and refugees with MEDICAL CARE? You will open up a whole new can of worms with that one. I think that everyone in the world should receive free medical care, but you'd be surprised at the number of people who fight that.

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Susan Mclendon
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5 years ago

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Yet this mother has this baby at the airport with thousands of people, on a plane that is full of germs and unhealthy air let alone all the coughing, sneezing passengers and who knows what germs are on the arm rests and in the restroom. Her best friend is lucky to be rid of a judgmental, hateful, selfish so called friend.

Desiree Cretan
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5 years ago

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This is not about not vaccinating the kids, is the risks behind that they do not tell you about, here in US is a big problem now that has been revealed that vaccines are being made with aborted fetuses, not only that; they are being incubated on chicken eggs and monkey blood, why do people do not know this? simple, the terms in which are explained are not exactly terms that an "uneducated" person would understand; in other words, the technical terms of explanation are not common conversation. I am not an anti-vaxx parent but rather a parent that like to have control over what vaccines are given to my children, i cannot expose my kid to three different viruses all at once, why can't measles, rubella and mumps be given as a separate vaccine,? When I asked this question to my kid pediatrician she told me flat out "it's no longer allowed" in other words 'sorry we do not make money if we give them separately". I had mumps 2x when i was a kid, didn't die. Had chickenpox, i'm still here.

Sammiche
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Made with aborted fetuses? Seriously? How many abortions do you think are HAPPENING? I'm almost positive there just isn't enough fetus to go around to make all those vaccines.

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Susan Mclendon
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5 years ago

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Yet she’s exposing the child to the airport with thousands of people and airlines with unclean air and seats on a plane that someone with diseases have sat in before her, and she disses her best friend. Her friend is lucky she is rid of her.

No Mandatory Vaccines
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5 years ago

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Vaccines harm. Vaccines kills. Vaccines are poison. Vaccines contain animals cells. Vaccines contain aborted fetus cells. Herd immunity is myth. You trolls pushing all this have been brainwashed. You will never do any research for yourself because you can't accept the fact you've been lied to and have been hurting yourself or children. Ex vaxxers know and get what your too afraid to understand. Vaccines will never be Mandatory as long as there are a few good people in this world. Most of the people pushing them are not fully vaccinated. Children now get 72 shots before 18 put your arm where your mouth is.

Jane Bull
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5 years ago

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Thalidomide was prescribed by doctors to pregnant women with disastrous effects. John Yudkin, the scientist who realised the dangers of a high sugar diet was ridiculed by other scientists. Doctors and scientists are not always right. Putting down parents who concerned about vaccine safety does not help. When I had my first child I was worried about vaccination but fortunately I had a good doctor who I trusted and spent time discussing my worries with me. If I had been shouted down and ridiculed I wouldn't have listened. All my children are vaccinated.

Chris Jones
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thalidomide wasn't originally created for treating morning sickness, it was a discovered side effect when used for another purpose & ended up passing legal specifications & regulations without the normal evaluation of its safety for use in pregnant & breastfeeding mothers. After 1961 drug regulatory authorities tightened laws so that any new drug was screened for the potential to cause harm to unborn babies. Parents being more concerned is largely their own fault for listening to ‘influencers’ who have no business pretending they have medical knowledge. In the end you listened to your doctor, but Anti-vaxxers don’t. They read 'theories' published on dubious websites and spread the same toxic views. They haven’t bothered to read genuine scientific research. Vaccine safety is well established. There will always be a small percentage of people who suffer from side effects - that is the case with any drug.

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Stille20
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5 years ago

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There was a much better way to handle this. If this woman was her best friend she could have found a kinder way to say it. When people do things out of ignorance, ranting at them is not going to teach them anything. They will just shut down.

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Chris Jones
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Andrew Wakefield lied. He made up the research as he had plans to benefit from the results. He was struck off. Discredited. There has been a number of research projects trying to duplicate his results but no-one has been able to because it was utter rubbish. It has been proven time and time again that there is NO link whatsoever. Why don't people read the genuine, proven scientific research? Instead of reading things by some ridiculous 'influencer' who doesn't have a clue.

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Sunzilla
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The is no such thing as Anti-Vaxx. It's Pro-Plague. Read that on Twitter today and I wholeheartedly agree. Disease-spreading imbeciles...

Aunt Messy
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The comment that kills me is the moron who thinks there are "too many" vaccines. Really? What diseases do you want your child to get? Vaccinations are about public health. They should NOT be voluntary - they should be the law. Thankfully school districts are wising up and not letting phoney "religious" exemptions destroy herd immunity in their buildings.

Just saying
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, different countries vaccinate for different things - so the UK doesn't currently vaccinate against chicken pox presumably because the cost vs danger level analysis doesn't support it, but in the US I think you do - so there are going to be 'borderline'' illnesses which some countries vax for and others don't, which might make someone in one country ask if a particular vax is necessary if another (responsible) country doesn't. In the UK we vax for HPV at age 12 and I don't know if the US does that, so that could be another 'borderline' illness. But yes, measles, mumps, rubella, diptheria, polio, tetanus and I think some of the meningitises the UK vaxxes for. It's not compulsory though and we're having soem of the same problems with anti vaxxers.

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Gonzalo Terán
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anti-vaxx and Flatearthers... What´s next? Sacriface virgin girls to the glory of the Sun God? Inquisition 2.0? 21st. Century, people...

Scott Lloyd
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope its not the sacrificing of virgin girls to the sun god. Would the sun accept anti-vaxx and flatearthers instead?

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Bored Phoenix
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is shocking. You put a small child at risk. All because you are stupid enough to not vaccinate your child.

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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is so wholly disgusting! You are putting a tiny baby at risk of DEATH all because you're too self centred and wrapped up in your own world and idiocy to think straight. If anyone's an antivaxer here... YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE, AND PUTTING YOUR OWN CHILD AT RISK!

SadieSummers
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand the logic of pro-plaguers. They still expose their child to the disease, which could kill them, but they don't want to get a vaccine? Which is the weakest form of the disease so that the child becomes immune without having a risk of dying. And please, too many vaccines? I'd rather have too many vaccines than potentially die of polio.

Jo Choto
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just don't understand how anti-vaxxers come up with their conclusions when there is overwhelming evidence from every reliable source imaginable that vaccines save lives.

Uwe Theiss
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Google "Dunning-Kruger-Effect". Then you will understand. They never had a chance.

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BETTY
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that anyone who believes in the Anti-Vaccine should have to spend an afternoon walking through a hundred year old cemetery, reading each of the tombstones. If they were to do that, they would come across family plots where entire families, multiple children, died within weeks of each other. This was usually because of exposure to a contagious disease that would cause the death of almost all the younger children. When you walk through the cemetery, seeing those, you should have to sign paperwork acknowledging that the same thing could happen to your family and to any families they come in contact with while contagious just by not protecting you and your

Aunt Messy
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Many older cemeteries have sections that are just for infants and small children. The grave stones are generally marble, so they're worn smooth, but they're row upon row of tiny stones - all dead children, most of whom died because of infectious diseases.

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Danin Larksy
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dear Anti-Vaccinators Please Do not use Autism as a fear tactic. Using a condom will reduce sexually transmitted diseases. Vaccinating will not reduce neurodevelopmental disorders. In my genes there are markers that were passed onto me and I have passed those onto my 4 children. They will pass those onto their children. Welcome to Evolution! That is life. Do not use my genetic mutation as propaganda that shows bigotry and discrimination at its core. I am not your campaign mascot. Welcome to the world of human evolution.

Emma B
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For the record, this was not me! I'm in Canada and do not have children. If I did have children, they would have all the vaccinations as soon as they could!

Wil Vanderheijden
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At least Facebook is going to make an effort and shut the Anti-vaxx groups down. Now we need some bold lawmakers to make vaccination mandatory and we'll soon be back to where we were 20 years ago on the matter of disease control.

Jilltdcatlady
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your comment gave me chills. "We'll soon be back to where we were 20 years ago on the matter of disease control". Just thinking how far intelligence has been repressed.

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Sage Jay
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People saying that mandatory vaccines would just be 'allowing the government to mandate things that aren't medically necessary' are oblivious to the fact that protecting your child's health and well-being IS necessary. NOT vaccinating your child is nothing short of negligence, aka child abuse. Just like only feeding your child lettuce would be negligence, since you are NEGLECTING TO FEED YOUR CHILD. Or if your kid is coughing up blood and you don't take them to the hospital, you are NEGLECTING YOUR CHILD. Why is willingly exposing your children to possibly deadly diseases simply a 'choice'?

Cheryl Wilcox
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it is the potential harm to others that makes mandatory vaccines make sense. It's in the best interest of the whole society.

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diane a
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only reason kids today get more is that they have developed more since the first ones were introduced. In the 1970's there were vaccinations for 7 diseases. 6 of them were comined as 2 seperate vaccines -MMR and DTP. In the mid 80's it was 8 diseases. With the development of protection against chicken pox in the mid 90's then Hepatitis A ,Rotavirus and some others by 2010 there were vaccines against 14 diseases (still 6 combined as 2). Not counting HPV.

Christina Pusel Koenig
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Fun fact, when I was a toddler in the late 70's (before a vaccine) I brought home chicken pox from daycare and gave it to my newborn sister, who got such a bad case she ended up hospitalized and nearly died. People who think chicken pox is just a harmless part of childhood are idiots.

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James Kistler
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It started when we stopped selling lawn darts because stupid people were getting hurt. Those stupid people that would have been removed from the gene pool found other stupid people and had stupider kids; or second generation stupids. Those second generation stupids located other second generation stupids and again had stupier kids; third generation stupids. Were are on 4G stupids and they are everywhere, even Congress.

Laura Bauer
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately, the last three generations have never seen a deadly plague like polio. They haven't had to watch their school aged friends become disabled or dead from a plague. Some people have the mind set that it can't happen to me or mine, and decide to not vaccinate. Now that there is a measles outbreak, we will see children die from preventable disease, I would wager that the current young generation will be vaccinating their children

Eileen Haas-Linde
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We adopted a little girl from Kazakhstan who had been partially paralyzed by polio in 1997. (That is NOT a typo. All of these diseases still exist in Third World Countries where they do not have vaccinations available to everyone. They are simply not reported, for various reasons. ) About every two years, she had to have a MAJOR surgery where she wore a full body cast for months at a time. I never knew a braver person. She began to have seizures when she was a teenager, and, slightly after she turned 21, she had one in the shower and drowned in the bathtub. Anti-vaxxers are constantly telling me that "kids are dying from vaccines". Well, here's one who died from polio. Her name was Karina Marie Linde. She was a beautiful soul, and wanted to be a special ed teacher. This is the photo that we used on her funeral cards. karina-fun...58b7d2.jpg karina-funeral-card-photo-5c893f958b7d2.jpg

Renee Schleifer
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a teenager I was walking in the street and somehow a rusty nail went into my foot. My mom washed out where the nail had been. I went to sleep but woke up in pain with my leg all swollen. I was taken to the emergency room, and was told that I had tetanus I was given a scratch test to see whether I was allergic to the antidote, I had a severe reaction to the antidote, I'm not certain what I was given but whatever it was saved my life. The last time I rec'd a tetanus shot was when I had a terrible burn on my hand, I also was given another shot , I think for the throbbing pain I had. I'm very grateful for the vaccines that are available nowadays. They do save people from some of the worse diseases that many people have never heard of that do cause life changing illnesses and have saved many lives.

KarmaQueen
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never though about this possibility. So, now new mothers have to ask every parent that has kids if they have been vaccinated. Stop this insanity!

Magpie
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

" ...when i was a kid...we had less vaccines...." HELLLLOOO the medical technology is constantly improving so more vaccines are available. That the doctors did not know how to make when you were a kid. .....Hellloooooo? any body in that skull ? didn't think so.

SandraG_lak
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it is safe to assume that the majority the pro-plaguers were vaccinated when they were infants and children. So unfortunately they would be spared from an impending vaccine-preventable plague.

Elaine Dodge
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Brandon Lumsden, your membership cards to the Flat-Earth Society, Conspiracies Unlimited and Google Degrees Anonymous are ready for collection. Unfortunately, you will have to return to school to get your basic education diploma.

Xoxo
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a healthcare professional I want to ask that everyone gets vaccinated. There is no reason for you or your family to suffer needlessly. Please stop believing the lies that vaccines exist for any reason beyond saving you and those around you from a painful end.

Lynn-Marie Lynn-Marie
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LOVE the Pro-Plague instead of Anti-Vaxx! Having had the Shingles myself TWICE - once at only age 14 (yep) which permanently screwed up my vision - and again as an adult - I would WHOLEHEARTEDLY have accepted a Chicken-Pox Vaxx! SO SO SO PAINFUL!!!

Natasha Forchione
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What gets me is that people before us figured out how to protect people from these diseases and thought they had done something amazing for humanity. If they were to see us now they would seriously think our brains had shrunk in the future.

Nikki D
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This pro plague (thanks sunzilla) BS has gone too far. It's getting very dangerous and scary.

Nikki D
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I honestly can't believe this movement hasn't fizzled out. If anything, it seems to be growing.

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Esther
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good job! I know it was hard breaking your relationship with your best friend, but you did the right thing for safety of your child.

Kim Lorton
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

U fortunately, a pregnant woman’s baby still in the womb, is not any safer. In fact, it is even more dangerous for a pregnant woman to be around or exposed to the measles! It can result in some well known birth defects, like deafness, and others. So, if you are pregnant, and for some reason aren’t vaccinated, and even if you had the disease or you were vaccinated, stay as far away from unvaccinated kids and people as possible. If you find out you are exposed to the measles, let your obstetrician know right away. Antivacci aged kids are dangerous to be around.

Allayna
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if you are anti-vax; Hmm, polio, measles, hepatitis, etc v.s. autism. It honestly just doesn't make sense.

Steve
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Cyanide is a proven vaccine alternative. Everyone who takes it never gets sick again! We should make it available to everyone who doesn't believe in vaccination.

diane a
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When i was a kid - late 60's - we got smallpopx vaccine and a couple more - got the polio sugar lump age 8- thank god for Dyptheria vaccine. The others were just coming into use. 1966/7 0- I got measles. Almost died. then I got mumps 1971- nasty thing - my brother also - he ended up infertile.. Chicken pox was horrendous at 11.Just vaccinate against anything that can kill or affect long-term

OMEGA
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

anti-vaxxer people are just the pay to win DLC in plague inc

Frozengeckolover
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"birth control vaccine". Lol. We kind of already have that. It's called Birth Control.

Michael Sieve
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you don't want to vax fine but then we don't have to let you out of your bubble. Make the anti-vax live in an anti-vax town. Then in 10 years check on their extinction.

Ashley Say Wha?!?
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a pharmacist and I totally understand vaccines very well. I'm totally against anti-Vaccination but sadly, my sister, who was a nurse, and her husband, who is a doctor, were influenced by a documentary and have refused to vaccinate all three of their children. I love them all dearly, but how can they believe that nonsense while being so educated and immersed in the health field? I mean, they see the affects of this stuff first hand! I pray for my nieces and nephews since they have no choice in the matter. :( (PS, my sister and brother in law are not flat earthers, thank God.)

Linda Robinett
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are a lot of stupid anti scientific things such as Creationism and flat worlders but they don't harm people. Anti Vaxxers are dangerous

JessyJoy
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm so fed up of all these anti-vax stories... I come on here for a laugh, not a hate fest

David Jeu
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People opposed to vaccination represent around 2% of the population. Can we stop focusing on the 2% dumbest people ? https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/anti-vaxxer-effect-on-vaccination-rates-is-exaggerated-92630

ThatJeremyKid
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

can we talk about the guy who thinks vaccines aren't "medically necessary"? Um... people who trek miles barefoot to get a vaccine sure think it's medically necessary...

Mira
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wll, I'm with her. If anyone would have done that to my baby it would have ended differently, surely not on internet platforms, I'm more like face-to-face kind of girl. If you're an ignorant-anti-vaxx-paranoid-imbecile you should keep yourself and your disease-bearer-offsprings at a distance from people who don't want their kids at risk of long-gone plagues... I hope it's clear what I meant to say...

Kathleen Brewew
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I grew up with 2 neighbors that had polio. 1 was in a wheelchair & the other walked with a brace on her leg. This was before the polio vaccine. When my children were old enough to receive vaccinations I had no problem at all with them getting vaccinated. People need to understand that just because they no long see the results of these diseases they are very real. Without vaccinations many would die or be handicapped from the disease. Please Vaccinate your children.

MD Martinez
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem I think is because these diseases have been out of the public eye people have forgotten how devastating they could be. If even one child's death could be prevented isn't it worth it?

Desiree Cretan
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not supporting the idiot in the article but a baby has no immune system to fight anything, anything could get them sick, give your kids the basic vaccines, at least they are not walking around like a virus magnet to infect others around you.

danielw
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

seeing as how I hope to one day move to mars... no. please NO. Let's send them to a different galaxy instead. might take a while. bring plenty of canned air.

Lisa Bo Bisa
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How are we overlooking the comment about birth control vaccines?

Eileen Haas-Linde
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having raised two teenage girls, I actually liked the idea of making people reach adulthood (at least legal age) before reproducing. Obviously it's a slippery slope and gives the government too much control over our lives, but otherwise, it's hard to say that it's a bad idea.

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Bill
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Emma just assumed that the writer wasn't too attached to her new baby on account that the baby was new.

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kathryn stretton
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not even ok for parents to not vaccinate their children in my view. Who tne f**k are they to make tbe idiot decision to put their own, and other's children at such risk? This is why, unfortunately for freedoms, tne government makes such rules.vaccinate, vaccinate. Idiots !!!

diane a
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anti-vaxxers should simply be against themselves having children - because of the risk of Autism. Issue solved.

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SirPatTheCat
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The person who said it’s naturally selection is wrong. Pro-Plaguers are trying to taking us all out with them. It’s a full scale suicide mission from aliens who want to take out earth.

Bill
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if all these states that pass mandatory vaccination bills pass price controls as well?

Aileen
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only thing I disagree with about having mandatory vaccines is that some people who have disorders in their immune system who physically cannot receive vaccines for certain diseases will still be forced to receive them. And these mandatory vaccines will include some that even pro-vaxx people usually avoid.

Chris Jones
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There would obviously be exemptions for people who would not be able to tolerate the vaccine safely!! They would just need to have proof provided by their doctor. Exactly what vaccines would be included that some pro-vaxx people usually avoid and how do you know this?

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I hope people realize that this isn’t just the religious communities doing this, this is also wholistic families as well. Just people who don’t really believe fully in modern medicine. The main problem though I feel is that the oldest vaccines should be mandatory. The ones that help the most basic diseases. If a parent though is concerned about a newer vaccine that has only been in circulation for a couple years/decades then talk to your doctor about it! Science is not perfect and things are constantly changing or being discovered but the basics of measles and mumps and such are a must. The only thing i don’t hear much in these conversations is that how many illegal immigrants or refugees are getting the vaccines too? This is a two way street. Vaccines for all means ALL. Not just the normal American family.

Eileen Haas-Linde
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You mean providing illegals and refugees with MEDICAL CARE? You will open up a whole new can of worms with that one. I think that everyone in the world should receive free medical care, but you'd be surprised at the number of people who fight that.

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Susan Mclendon
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Yet this mother has this baby at the airport with thousands of people, on a plane that is full of germs and unhealthy air let alone all the coughing, sneezing passengers and who knows what germs are on the arm rests and in the restroom. Her best friend is lucky to be rid of a judgmental, hateful, selfish so called friend.

Desiree Cretan
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This is not about not vaccinating the kids, is the risks behind that they do not tell you about, here in US is a big problem now that has been revealed that vaccines are being made with aborted fetuses, not only that; they are being incubated on chicken eggs and monkey blood, why do people do not know this? simple, the terms in which are explained are not exactly terms that an "uneducated" person would understand; in other words, the technical terms of explanation are not common conversation. I am not an anti-vaxx parent but rather a parent that like to have control over what vaccines are given to my children, i cannot expose my kid to three different viruses all at once, why can't measles, rubella and mumps be given as a separate vaccine,? When I asked this question to my kid pediatrician she told me flat out "it's no longer allowed" in other words 'sorry we do not make money if we give them separately". I had mumps 2x when i was a kid, didn't die. Had chickenpox, i'm still here.

Sammiche
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Made with aborted fetuses? Seriously? How many abortions do you think are HAPPENING? I'm almost positive there just isn't enough fetus to go around to make all those vaccines.

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Susan Mclendon
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Yet she’s exposing the child to the airport with thousands of people and airlines with unclean air and seats on a plane that someone with diseases have sat in before her, and she disses her best friend. Her friend is lucky she is rid of her.

No Mandatory Vaccines
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Vaccines harm. Vaccines kills. Vaccines are poison. Vaccines contain animals cells. Vaccines contain aborted fetus cells. Herd immunity is myth. You trolls pushing all this have been brainwashed. You will never do any research for yourself because you can't accept the fact you've been lied to and have been hurting yourself or children. Ex vaxxers know and get what your too afraid to understand. Vaccines will never be Mandatory as long as there are a few good people in this world. Most of the people pushing them are not fully vaccinated. Children now get 72 shots before 18 put your arm where your mouth is.

Jane Bull
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Thalidomide was prescribed by doctors to pregnant women with disastrous effects. John Yudkin, the scientist who realised the dangers of a high sugar diet was ridiculed by other scientists. Doctors and scientists are not always right. Putting down parents who concerned about vaccine safety does not help. When I had my first child I was worried about vaccination but fortunately I had a good doctor who I trusted and spent time discussing my worries with me. If I had been shouted down and ridiculed I wouldn't have listened. All my children are vaccinated.

Chris Jones
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thalidomide wasn't originally created for treating morning sickness, it was a discovered side effect when used for another purpose & ended up passing legal specifications & regulations without the normal evaluation of its safety for use in pregnant & breastfeeding mothers. After 1961 drug regulatory authorities tightened laws so that any new drug was screened for the potential to cause harm to unborn babies. Parents being more concerned is largely their own fault for listening to ‘influencers’ who have no business pretending they have medical knowledge. In the end you listened to your doctor, but Anti-vaxxers don’t. They read 'theories' published on dubious websites and spread the same toxic views. They haven’t bothered to read genuine scientific research. Vaccine safety is well established. There will always be a small percentage of people who suffer from side effects - that is the case with any drug.

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Stille20
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There was a much better way to handle this. If this woman was her best friend she could have found a kinder way to say it. When people do things out of ignorance, ranting at them is not going to teach them anything. They will just shut down.

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Chris Jones
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Andrew Wakefield lied. He made up the research as he had plans to benefit from the results. He was struck off. Discredited. There has been a number of research projects trying to duplicate his results but no-one has been able to because it was utter rubbish. It has been proven time and time again that there is NO link whatsoever. Why don't people read the genuine, proven scientific research? Instead of reading things by some ridiculous 'influencer' who doesn't have a clue.

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