I've got an autoimmune disease, and I still get my vaccines. I'm typically laid out for about a week afterwards, but they truly do help strengthen my immune system just a bit. Just that little bit is enough, since when I do catch colds and flu, they aren't as severe (I don't get fevers at all, which makes them drag on and on and on...). The problem is for people like me, are people like this mother and her buddies who refuse to get vaccinated. Diseases that were almost wiped out in North America are making a comeback because of them. We have a society mostly free of seriously harmful mass-epidemics because of vaccines. Herd immunity doesn't work for those with autoimmune or compromised immune systems when there are idiots like these that refuse to get vaccinated.

Well... i got my shots at 20, the first week after i felt fine, the next three i had a fever and felt like s**t in general. Got small red bumps from the measels part of it. But that is a rarety. So yea, they can make you sick. But it's way better than actually getting the diseases themselves.

I don't think that it's that there are so many of them as that they tend to form herds and hang together. They live in a bubble.

@cherl bostrom that is thoroughly disturbing

NickelWorld123: not all vaccines have dead viruses in them. some have viruses in them that are still alive, but just barely. they are weakened to nearly dead to make it easier for the body to fight them, and to recognize them if the body is hit with them again.

You should look up how big the flat earth society has gotten. Ridiculous times right now

There are actually almost 130,000 in the closed/private support group this was taken from (screen shots)

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@Rasmus You can treat diseases naturally so you dont even have to risk getting sick either. Just use herbs/vitamins instead of vacs

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holy c*w. i was not aware you come back to earth, its been centuries since our last meet here (on earth). so, hows mars? you know we will be going there shortly, makes you wonder how we are going to get to mars shortly, right? ;)

Bobby Clemente, in any society there are people who might not be completely immunized, such as babies who have not received all their shots yet, or people with compromised immune systems who cannot be vaccinated, and the rare instance where someone might not be completely immune even after getting vaccinated. But when enough people in a population get vaccinated, this vulnerable group can benefit from "herd immunity".

Hahaha this is sadistic but also like wouldn’t be entirely unfair evolutionarily speaking

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If the vaccines work why wouldn't the general public be safe?

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I have always been curious about suggestions such as this. If the rest of us are vaccinated, why should we be concerned about those around us that are not vaccinated?

even churches support vaccination. You may be an athiest, but even those with faith can do the smart thing

Hahaha

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It's interesting that your faith in God's lack of existence is as fervent as that of those who believe in God. Frankly, those who believe in God are smarter. If they're wrong, they're no worse off. If you're wrong, whew. Bring sunblock, baby. It gonna get warm where you's goin'.

Chino - I don't have a clue what you're saying - and I doubt many others do either. It looks to me like, in spite of her mother's prejudices, the daughter was sensible enough and old enough to decide for herself. What that has to do with belief in a god of any description I have no idea.

Wow! That's the real Whale.to. That's a conspiracy theory website where you learn among other things Hitler was a British agent, there is a shadow government of shape shifting reptiles, and the US Navy is committing genocide on the flying dolphins. It's also a repository for some really old fringe reports on vaccines like risks of the small pox vaccination. We don't routinely vaccinate for small pox unless you're military or a first responder.

AV'ers the Big here is BIG Natural Health. If you follow the $$ that's where the big gains are

LOL. You obviously didn't do your homework, or used biased sources that don't base their findings on fact. The data shows the exact opposite of what you say. The incident and mortality rate of diseases drops significantly to near zero levels every time an effective vaccine is introduced. It is completely false that diseases hit the vaccinated "first and harder". It's sad that antivaxxers have to lie to recruit others into their cult. Unlike you, I've actually provided facts in the form of a graph that show polio mortality rates vs. introduction of the vaccine. Oh look at that drop! Stating the names of scaring sounding chemicals out of context is a common anti-vaxxer scare tactic. As with anything, education is key. Take formaldehyde for instance. Food, such as pears, naturally produce orders magnitude more formaldehyde than what's present in a vaccine. You also breath out more formaldehyde than what is present in a vaccine. Formaldehyde is a natural byproduct of your metabolism. polio-5a9c...e16788.png

Take your own advice and stop parroting the antivaxxer conspiracy theory propaganda you learned off facebook.

@Ryan Thanks for being sensible. Formaldehyde, phenols, and other ethyl or aldehyde groups are far more present in nature, including produced by the human body, than people realize. I think people hear formaldehyde but their brains process it as CHEMICAL 'O DEATH because of vague ideas about embalming, and then panic as a result of misty recollection, spurious association, and random collation of tenuous facts.

And if you had a brain, you'd be on the floor playing with it.

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Bradley save your time, they will never understand because they do not read or think, they choose to eat, s**t and drink all that the government say and big pharma. They rather watch tv instead of spending time with family and think for themselves. Sad.

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1) concentration of (neurotoxic and carcinogenic) formaldehyde. 2) Duration of time IN the formaldehyde. 3) Whether or not the virus is immune because some of them have thick enough cell walls to NOT be killed by the toxic vax ingredient formaldehyde. DUH. Do your phukn homework or be a lemming and parrot things you are told but don't know.

Wakefield was trying to make and market his own vaccines and he couldn't get permission for testing them, so he tested them on children that were already mentally disabled. The "study" he did was discredited before the ink was dry and he no longer has a license to practice medicine. He narrowly avoided prison.

I'm glad you seem to have a good grasp on your family's needs and seems like a caring network. If your family is not good enough proof it is genetic, I don't know what would convince the woonatics

So it's like the next step in Human evolution: more brainpower and enhanced mental abillities. Being unable to express oneself through speech may be a side effect of that. However, maybe it just means that we (Humanity) will be able to communicate in different ways in the future.

Except, Esmeleleu, if you study fairy folklore, specifically the folklore of the Changeling Child, you'll find that such a child is almost exactly that of a person with Autism. So Autism has been around for as long as there's been humans. Only at one time it was blamed on fairies.

As someone who works in the Autistic community I see no correlation with age of father and autistic kids..

@Megan - Sorry where did you go to medical school again?

The growth is due to the change in the definition of autism, which is now a much broader term. Hence, more autistic kids.

Actually there is some evidence that it is also part of an inherited gene. For instance, my son is High Functioning Autistic (Asperger's Syndrome - but high end of that scale). We didn't think anything of his traits with not liking food to touch on a plate or being fussy with textures, not liking crowds, not looking in the eye, etc. etc. as my mother, my eldest brother and even my late grandfather (maternal) had some similar traits, even if not to such an extreme. Consequently my son wasn't diagnosed until he was 13. The specialist we saw said that there is some suggestion that it may be hereditary because people like my son would have just had to 'get on with it' back in my Grandfather's, mother's and even brother's day. Aspergers wasn't recognised until the 1980s, the fact that autism is a spectrum also wasn't recognised until around then. People just were not diagnosed whereas now they are, so it could be the improvement in diagnosis that has increased the number of kids with autism

Autism has been around for as long as humans have been around. You're BORN with it. Period.

It's partly due to growth in population. More people, more problems

(2nd continuation) In the roughly 2 generations since I was saving glass bottles, glass bottles have become an endangered species. Baby bottles are plastic. Everything the Mommy comes into contact with is plastic. And as the steady dominance of plastics has increased remarkably during my days, so have the cases of autism, as well as acute allergies. ONCE AGAIN - THIS IS A GUESS AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AUTHORITATIVE BY ANYONE.

(continuation) I became more aware of plastics' role in our lives, and the ever-increasing reliance on them. Plastics are derived from crude oil; they are cousins to gasoline. For that matter, these days, even chewing gum is a petroproduct with closer ties to Vaseline (which is actually used by some as a daily laxative) than any gum tree. When I was young, plastics were also young. We took our glass soda bottles back to the store because (well, because we would get 5-10c back per bottle) they were sent back to the bottler, washed, sterilized, and refilled. That was recycling back then - use what you have as long as you can. Then, DISPOSABLE became the go-to for 'Yuppies'. On the go, gotta make that dollar! Therefore, the investments went toward 100% DISPOSABLE EVERYTHING!!!!!! Plastics give off chemicals that, when taken into a human body, can mimic hormones. (will continue)

They don't grow, it's that they're recognized and diagnosed more now instead of the excuses of "Well, they're just a weird child" or "they're really a fairy changeling, not a human being." I have a friend who found out as an adult she's on the spectrum. Her parents actually KNEW she was but didn't want to deal with it so they never told her. All this time she thought her various problems were because of her ADHD.

No. Our population grows, therefore the rates of autism grow. This has nothing to do with vaccines.

So... basically over the last few years, people have been having babies at later ages. The age of the father is directly correlated to Autism. So, bam.

Yeah, that's the only reason... corgi_eye_...4e1aaf.jpg