As associate professor at Columbia Business School Dr. Michael Slepian pointed out in his research, the real problem with keeping a secret is not that you have to hide it, but that you have to live with it, and think about it.
In fact, secrecy is associated with lower well-being, worse health, and less satisfying relationships — studies have linked secrecy to increased anxiety, depression, symptoms of poor health, and even the more rapid progression of disease.
Luckily, a recent Reddit thread offered people a chance to take off some of the weight they had been carrying on their shoulders. Created by platform user Amerisbf, it asked everyone to anonymously share a secret that could tear their entire family apart if it got out. And many did.
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Everyone thought I was miserable on thanksgiving. The reality is that I was sober and dealing with all the triggers for the first time in 10 years. I’ve been nearly blacked out drunk for every family holiday since I was like 17 or 18.
Especially at family gatherings. I never thought there would be peer pressure from other adults to drink. I'm not an alcoholic, I just don't like drinking anymore. I cannot believe how many adults are not ok with that.
Load More Replies...I completely skipped holidays for my first 5 years of recovery. I don't know if I'd been able to stay sober otherwise.
I'm happy for you. I mean, not happy for skipping the holidays, but happy that you've been sober. Keep it up and stay strong.
Load More Replies...Holidays can be really tough for the newly sober. Hell, they can be tough for those with some sober time behind them.
I'm glad you're getting sober. If family gatherings are too triggering remember that it is perfectly ok for you to skip them. Take care of yourself :)
Holidays are hard, family can be difficult, GOOD FOR YOU FOR STAYING SOBER!! My step family is the reason I drink at family gatherings. And then my dad will later say that he's worried about my drinking, and I just wanna scream out "YOU MARRIED THAT TYRANT!!! And you never stand up for me when they're mean, in fact, you shush me in front of them. So what do you expect?"
I won a large amount of money (high 6 figures). If I tell them they'll demand I give them some
May not seem like a dark secret on the surface, but relatives can change—-meaning every single one of them will put their hands out asking for, then drain OP dry by demanding to be gifted, not lent, huge chunks of cash they’ll never even offer to repay—-when they find out someone they’re related to has come into a large amount of money. That’s when all the darkness will be dredged up.
Yep, if you tell them, they will hound you until you tell them to stop and then they will tell everyone you are a heartless person who doesn't care about their family. Never, ever, tell them and, just in case they will find out someday, put the money in trust or something so that you can tell them you can't touch it even if you want to (which you don't want). Congrats!
I worked in a VA nursing home. We had one guy who only got a 50% disability rating. He was telling me how he lost a kidney on D-Day & found there was no record of it. Even when he had X-rays, the VA radiologist did not even note the missing kidney. It wasn't there on the X-ray & he had all of the scarring from a bullet wound & a very crude surgery. Now he was given a 100% disability rating dating back to June 6, 1944. His family who never visited suddenly loved dad all over again. He had them kicked out of his room.
I'm not telling anyone except my one trusted brother whose silence I have already agreed to buy...
We contacted the author of the post, Amerisbf, who was kind enough to share more insights about the now-viral thread and provided a glimpse into its genesis.
"When I got the idea for it, I was at work," the Redditor told Bored Panda. "It's a job in the fast-food industry, and I was stationed at the back window. The monotony of the job made me bored out of my mind, so I tried to come up with something that would resonate with people and initiate a conversation."
And they picked a fitting topic for it—we constantly gossip. In fact, a 2019 meta-analysis published in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science found that, on average, people engage in it for 52 minutes.
My sister and father both did ancestry dna testing. Found some new relatives because my dad was adopted. When I mentioned I would do it a well my mother got very defensive and out right mad demanding I swear I won’t do it. I don’t look anything like my dad. Gonna be a wild Xmas this year when I get the results back of my test I did behind everyone’s back.
Exactly, things like this can escalate backwards really badly. Given the Reddit origin, it seems like the OPs father is a troublesome person. Revealing OP isn't related to their father could quite possibly end with OPs mother getting murdered or otherwise made to suffer because the father now knows she hasn't been faithful. This wasn't thought through well
Load More Replies...I don't think the OP has the results back yet, but I went to Reddit and they said this: I’m secretly hoping he’s not my dad. But I also won’t confront my mom until after he dies if that’s the case.
The OP went on to say: There has always been a divide between me and him. We r two different of people to even be friends. It’s never been a loving relationship.
Load More Replies...Follow the thread - https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/s/vy22vFkIIk
Load More Replies...Aw. You don’t know how BP works. It propagates content from other sites, namely Reddit, then repackages it. Check the link under the post, follow the thread. None of these posts are by people on BP. You’re talking to a link to a Reddit post. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/s/vy22vFkIIk
Load More Replies...I get you. I did ancestry looking for answers. My dad is A +, my mum AB + and here’s me over here vibing with my O - and everyone denying knowing anything 🙄
Are you Asian? I'm asking because they can sometimes get O child because one parent can be ABO blood but a blood test will say they are AB
Load More Replies...They took the test 23 days ago and doesn’t know how long it will be until they get the results, but think at least a month. So, anytime now. Just go to the original post click the three dots and follow it.
Load More Replies...The adage "It's a wise child who knows his father" makes no mention of a happy child.
This person needs to actually know? I got diagnosed with a genetic disorder only because I found my real dad as an adult
I have bought my parents house and their two city apartments. My siblings are unaware of this. Letting my folks live in the house for free and told them to spend the money for things they actually want to do and not leave any inheritance to any of us. My siblings don’t deserve a s**t and I’m fine with them hating me(feeling is mutual) but told my folks to keep it secret for their own sake. Gonna be fun when my parents leave this world, that [drama] is gonna be epic.
"[drama] is going to be epic". Yupp. My wife's step-mum had a huge falling out with her sister when their parents died, as they (the parents) had been living for twenty-odd years in a house that she owned but had let them live in since she remarried. The sister somehow didn't know and refused to believe that she had no right to the house or anything in it. They never really got over it.
There is nothing like a death in the family to bring the true nature of siblings and other family members to light. I have never understood why children think that their parents, WHO ARE STILL ALIVE, have to be careful not to spend too much OF THEIR OWN MONEY so that there is something to inherit for the kids. You did the right thing.
I signed waivers so my brother got everything. He had to handle everything for them, so why shouldn't he get it?
Load More Replies...Imagine how this poster would feel if the parents ended up leaving the siblings something anyway. Now, that would be some epic drama.
Little mementos with sentimental aloe are one thing. Valuable properties are quite another. Pretty sure OP won’t care if his siblings got left A picture or knick-knack in the will, because OP got the good stuff—-and probably purchased the properties at way less than market value to boot. You know, the “family discount”.
Load More Replies...This person sounds really mean and unpleasant. Who is he to control how his parents feel about their children? And obviously he has money and doesn't need the inheritance. How magnanimous to say not to give it to any of them. There is a controlling aspect to the whole "letting" the parents live there rent free. Bad karma going on here.
Huh? OP isn't dictating anything about how the parents leave their assets. OP is just assuming they will have a good time spending most of it before they die so they won't have much of anything to leave.
Load More Replies...I hope the OP's parents are better family members than he is. I hope they write their will to reflect how they feel about their children, not how he feels about his siblings.
Though they tried for years to convince me my father was the scum of the earth horrible evil person, they were actually the problem and he's a great guy.
In fairness, he could have been awful to them in the past and he's changed.
Load More Replies...I know you randomly selected a stock photo of "Father and Daughter" but can we switch to a non-criminal/terrorist group option?
Exactly - when I saw the photo and the words " he is a great guy" I had a physical shudder
Load More Replies...When I was at University, the college librarian told me "never to trust anyone, ever, anywhere about anything". True, he was a bit of a miserable git, but at the same time he was right. People always have their own particular motives and you must be mindful of them when considering what they tell you. Be the captain on your own ship.
Just because he looks like a biker, doesn't mean he is a bad person. However people with prejudices usually are.
This is stock photo. It’s also a stock photo with a racist patch he’s wearing.
Load More Replies...My dad was the black sheep of his family. He did not go to church like they all did. He got along with everybody no matter what their demographics were. They all hated & always talked down about him. Made up all kinds of lies about him. He cavorts with "Ns", Catholics, Jews, & many more racial & ethnic slurs. He married an Eastern European Catholic yet. My dad always looked at the character of people. Nothing else mattered. We haven't had contact with his side of the family in ages. The last time I talked to any of them the kids of his brother were still spreading lies about my dad.
However, we shouldn't vilify the act. According to the research, three-quarters of our gossip is actually neutral. One subject, for example, spoke about someone who was watching a lot of movies to stay current. It's something that comes very naturally to us; an integral part of conversation, information sharing, and even community building.
Just a small portion of our conversations—around 15%—are deemed negative gossip (though positive gossip amounted to an even smaller portion, at only 9%). So, while it is true that we can spend a significant amount of time talking about our peers, oftentimes that chatter is... kinda boring.
I stole the cookie from the cookie jar!
Thank you. I was getting fed up with all the "my close relative had an affair" posts.
Who stole the cookie from the cookie jar? 🎶 🎶 I was an early education teacher for years is my only defense😂
😆 A cookie jar is an open invitation, as far as I'm concerned. If you don't want me getting into your Oreos then keep them in your cupboards and don't leave out an unlocked clear container that basically says to me "help yourself". Sorry, not sorry.
My Grandma is absolutely the “Alpha” in the relationship between my Grandparents. They had three sons, and their oldest being my Uncle named “Paul”. There are very few moments that we get to talk to my Grandfather alone due to my Grandma always speaking over him and for him. This one time my Grandma was in the hospital due to a recent surgery. Grandpa was talking to us in the Hallway and so we asked how did they choose the names of our dad (middle child). He explained why, but then told us a secret about how he came up naming their first son. When he just moved to California he fell in love with this one girl, and while their relationship didn’t work out he still had a piece of him that still loved her. Her last name was “Paul” and he liked that name so he named his FIRST BORN SON after her and never told my Grandma about it.
At least Grandpa managed to sneak something into his relationship with that old harpy Grandma to make himself happy.
Grandma was the dominant personality, BUT, do not assume Grandpa was unhappy or oppressed by this. Many men prioritize the happiness of their partners, creating the superficial impression of being submissive. This is ONLY an outward appearance, and not reflective of the relationship itself. The thing with the name feels weird, though.
Load More Replies...My middle name is after a flight nurse who helped save my dad in Vietnam. My mom has no idea, but my dad told me in confidence when I was 49.
That's kinda how my sister got her middle name. It's the name of my grandfather's French "friend" from the ETO in '44
Not this thread, though. Amerisbf was interested in the juicy stuff, the secrets that could potentially tear families apart. It's interesting to note how a seemingly mundane moment at work led to the creation of a space where people felt compelled to unburden themselves with deeply personal experiences.
"After going through the discussion, I noticed that a few topics have become considerably more popular than the rest," the Redditor said. "They're either of a violent or sexual nature."
Among more than 50,000 research participants Dr. Michael Slepian has surveyed, the most common secrets include a lie we've told (69 percent), romantic desire (61 percent), sex (58 percent), and finances (58 percent).
My girlfriend was in dental school and needed patients. My step dad volunteered and checked the HIV/AIDS box. She asked if it was a mistake and he smiled and said "nope. And you can't tell anyone due to hipaa". Turns out he cheated on my mom back in 2015 and contracted the virus. I still don't know if my mom is positive because if I bring it up he will 100% come after my now wife for her career/money.
Exactly, that is really bad because he is now aware of something that he can't talk about but will undoubtedly impact his relationships with his step dad and mom.
Load More Replies...And that is how people spread the virus. How is this not a murder attempt?
In some places it's highly illegal not to tell hiv status to sexual partners. I think it falls under negligent homicide
Load More Replies...Seriously a psychopath. OP is a moron for not telling his mom. The sd is commiting a crime (by many ruling it could be anything from assault, criminal negligence, to attempted murd*r)
Load More Replies...Step-dad sounds like a piece of work. I doubt that a case would be actionable as an alleged violation of HIPAA, as there are loopholes for pillow talk (talk between spouses, in this case between the dentist wife and the OP), so if step-dad goes after the dentist, he just might lose. But it’s a mess. Hope karma catches up with him.
My bio parents don't know that I refer to them as "bio parents" most of the time and that another pair of humans, I consider to be my real parents.
That's what happens when you neglect and emotionally abuse your kid and *lowers glasses at bio Mom* tell me at age 14 you never wanted me.
i'm adopted, but my adoptive parents are worse than my bio mom was. just started taking my anxiety meds last night, a week after we got them, b/c adoptive dad wouldn't let me take them before.
I'm not sure any country would find this acceptable. You'll need to speak up! ASAP too! I have to take mine every night otherwise my brains are really weird the day after but I'm almost 60 so no one is withholding my meds.
Load More Replies...For me, family is about love first and foremost, not about blood or genetics. Some people (like me) are lucky that their biological family also loves them, but then, nobody should be forced to put up with horrible people just because they're biological family, or consider their found / adoptive family less "real" because there aren't blood relations.
This breaks my heart for all who have had to hear those words uttered. Just awful. I have never once had thoughts about not wanting my children nevermind saying it out loud. If I could make it happen, I would hug every single one of you so that you can feel true mom love 🩷
I have a friend who refers to her bio parents as her "sperm donor" and "egg donor "
My Dad has pretty much been in the closet all his 86 years. Me, my wife and daughter are the only family that knows, and it would be a monumental, epic [drama] with the conservative family if it was known.
My great uncle came out to us (his extended family) when he was 80, and was met with nothing but love and understanding. It’s interesting bc he was married to a woman who was also gay. They were close friends and after learning each others’ secret they decided to get married. Partially for appearances (it was the 1950s) but also because they both wanted children, and had two daughters. The girls knew long before the rest of us, and their mother passed before I could meet her, but coming out to the rest of us was very important to my great uncle. I’m happy to say he lived well into his 90s and even brought his boyfriend to the last 5 or so Thanksgiving’s he spent with us. Love you Uncle Van!
I knew a couple like this in the late 90s. Both families were extremely conservative so they married eachother and had a child but both had relationships on the side. I was actually surprised to find out that the man was married to a woman and had a child, I think he registered that I had always thought he was gay and decided it was "safe" to tell me the truth. They were awesome and their daughter was such a sweetheart but I always felt bad that they obviously felt the need to put on those masks to be able to continue a relationship with their families.
Load More Replies...My family is considered fairly conservative. Not as hardcore as some in our family. Closer to being conservative Democrats. My wife's family are much more liberal. The one SIL thru marriage was so radically left that she came off as extreme right-wing. When her stepchild came out as trans, she physically attacked him. Meanwhile my wife & I full accepted him. Love is unconditional. That insane SIL is now a former SIL. Too bad she doesn't have a prison number.
I had an uncle that alllll of us cousins knew was gay, we all loved him greatly. Eventually we told him we knew and that we only wanted him to be happy. I was sad that we missed out on so much of his life, He ended up passing away and I don't think he ever really knew how much he meant to all of us, I mean we tried to tell him, but I don't know that he believed us.
I look like a mixture of my uncle (by marriage) and my mother. I don't have a genetic condition my sister does, even though I definitely should. When I brought this up to my mother she avoided the question.
Sounds like Mom found a sperm donor to guarantee your health. She did what she had to.
The video tape of the making of #14 with a surprise visit by Uncle Steve! It's not always scandals, sometimes you just learn your parents were swingers
I known its irrelevant but it bothers me that in English language, there are no specific words for relatives. For example, inTurkish there is a word for your fathers brother and another word for your mothers brother and another for your aunts husband. Also same as aunts.. your moms sister, your fathers sister, your uncles wife is called differently, they are not just "aunt"
Sometimes not answering is answering. And more believable than any words she might choose.
So this wouldn't tear my immediate family apart, but it could hurt some people. I have an uncle who is a thieving, sociopathic, narcissistic piece of garbage. Hes almost in his 70s now but has kids peppered all over the country. Who knows how many, but of all the kids we know about, Just one doesn't know she's his daughter. She was adopted and raised by her stepdad and never told any different. She also just so happens to be a teacher at my kids school. It's really weird seeing her everyday and knowing she's my cousin but I can't say anything. And she looks just like him too.
If she was told she was adopted and she tries to find her biological father and the OP opens the door when she found him, it would definitely mess her up worse.
Load More Replies...Her not knowing could have a health related impact at some point...sad.
I have a similar uncle. We only know of 5 kids since he routinely disinherits us for a decade or so. Two of the kids he had in marriage, the other three moms got in contact with my mom, his older sister, but we're smart enough to know they didn't want him around influencing their kids. The inherited mental health were enough on their own.
Is your uncle' s name donald? You know the thieving, sociopath and a narcissist?
My sibling and I are the sole heirs of my grandparents. They are not our actual grandparents and never had kids, so no one can dispute their decision. I have lots of cousins.
Well, it's the grandparent's right to appoint heirs as they see fit if there are no biological children.
Assuming they're of sound mind, it's the grandparent's right to appoint heirs as they see fit even if there are biological children (at least in my part of the world).
Load More Replies...I had a former GF who did a will & put me down as her heir. Thought this was strange. It's not like she was rich or anything but she did have a large insurance policy. That is why she named me. Her family would battle over it. She could not trust her family at all.
It's their stuff, they worked for it; they can leave it to who they want to.
They are either foster parents or just elderly relatives (such as great-aunts or -uncles, or second cousins or so on), who are close to the family and have acted as "surrogate grandparents" to these siblings, or perhaps just neighbors or family friends who have become close like blood family along the years. It does occasionally happen. My maternal grandmother died in her forties, and so, eventually my grandfather found a new love interest in his late fifties or so. They were going to get married, but tragically he passed away right before, I think he wasn’t even sixty yet. The fiancée remained quite close to my mother for decades, and she visited us every now and then. We called her "Granny (name)", though it isn't unusual in our culture to call familiar, friendly older ladies that.
Load More Replies...That they are a childless couple that is close to the family and treats them like family even if they arent (though with the mention of cousins they could technically be a great aunt and uncle who stepped up into a grandparent role after the actual grandparents died).
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My grandpa secretly changed his will that me and my two cousins will get the lion‘s share of his heritage. My father and my aunt, both went no contact with my grandpartents, are only getting the legally required potion.
Where I live, children are always entitled to a portion of the inheritance; you can't disinherit them.
That's just wrong. A person should be able to leave their will to whom ever they want and not be forced to give to anyone even their children
Load More Replies...I imagine that the portion each person (in this case children) receives is mandated by law in whichever country's applicable to the situation.
Load More Replies...What country has a rule regarding a “legally required portion”, please? Thank you
A short google search revealed that it's common in France, Germany, Austria, Spain, Switzerland, though the specific regulations differ widely.
Load More Replies...The only squabble my sister & I had was I got the house & a good sum of money. She got about 2/3 of the money. That kinda stuck in her craw a bit. We were cool otherwise. Two years later I told her my finances were on fumes. Where did all of that money go? Into home repairs. We had a good laugh.
Maybe they went no contact for a valid reason. Perhaps abuse. So being disinherited might not be fair.
Not so much a secret as much as everyone in my family choosing to ignore the obvious.
My grandparents recently passed away- grandmother about two years ago, grandfather less than a year later. When we were putting together the obituary, we noticed that the time span between when they were married and when my mother was born was…. Considerably less than nine months.
The younger generations obviously don’t care, but my parents, aunts, uncles, etc. refuse to acknowledge it, and even went as far as changing their date of marriage in the newspaper obituary.
My grandparents married Dec 9. My mother was born the following April. It was never talked about, but my mom knew
My Aunt was born May my nan and grandad got married October and tried to say my aunt was born 4 months early. Yeah ok because 1949 midwifes and hospitals had the capability to keep a 4months premem baby a live
Load More Replies...'The first born can come any time. The next born take nine months.' A wise catholic priest of my acquaintance.
Fertility problems run in my mother's family so when my mom and dad got engaged my mother stopped the Pill, figuring it would be years (if ever) that she'd conceive. Guess what, my mom had no issue having kids (she has 4 healthy children) and she was 3 months pregnant with me when they married. They decided not to tell my VERY Catholic grandparents until after the wedding and I was born very much to term six months after the wedding. Her mother wasn't at all pleased and prayed for a miscarriage to prevent scandal. Guess what, God didn't listen to her ;)
Your grandmother sounds like a horrible person. She's the kind that give Christians a bad name.
Load More Replies...My mother and her sister changed the date of their parents' wedding in the large family genealogy book, but the secret got out anyway.
Yeah, I was the reason my parents had to get married. In fact when they got married, I arrived at the altar before her, as she was pregnant with me at the time.
My parents have a similar story with my sister; they got pregnant before marriage, and I'm not entirely sure if they were pressured by both sets of parents to get married or not, but they did marry. I don't get the big deal, but I do know previous generations had a big problem with pregnancy "out of wedlock". But, my parents also loved (and love) each other, so their marriage was not really a "shotgun wedding". Still, these days, I don't get why something like this needs to be a family secret...who cares?
My Dad has researched a long way back into our family history, he’s got quite a hefty collection of birth, marriage & death certificates and church records for generations of our family. There are quite a few ‘interesting’ timings and even some missing names on birth records. I’m glad we no longer have this stigma for parents anymore, just feel sad for those who were forced into marriage for the sake of saving face or their honour.
My father (75) was born two weeks after my grandparents married. There has never been any attempts at keeping that quiet. Any attempts would've been ridiculous but I'm certain some would have tried.
They say that an eager young couple can accomplish in seven months what most couples can do in nine...
I think the real question is if OP's mother's father was really her father. That priority to the look of things over the reality of things had a lot of couples married with the groom knowing they weren't the father or being led to believe they were erroneously because the actual father was an older married man or otherwise someone who could not be forced to wed the one they "sullied."
My oldest aunt had a baby before her “only child” and gave him up for adoption. I’ve met him, he’s lovely. I’ve tried to tell her, but she has ignored and worked to isolate me from the family.
I’ve kept her secret.
Her husband was in Vietnam when it happened.
It wasn’t his baby.
Given that the adopted child is doing well, the aunt did good giving him up. What she shouldn't have done is trying to isolate OP from the family. There are people less morally inclined who would have held the aunt's secret above her head like the sword of Damocles, ready to drop.
But not understandable that she thinks she has a right to isolate the OP from their family. A betrayal of a different kind.
Load More Replies...My Maternal Grandma had 12 kids with 7 different guys and was only married to 3 of those guys. She gave 2 of them up for adoption (the 2 she conceived while her 1st husband was in jail). Lots of fun stories from her
All these people coming for the aunt. You don't just give up a baby for fun. Generally there is a very good reason. And having done something so traumatic,it stands to reason that the aunt wouldn't want to discuss it with their nephew/niece. It's not excusable to try and isolate someone from the family,but a traumatized and confused person might not know how to deal with the situation, and it is at least understandable.
Some cousins got their aunt a 23&me for her birthday. The cousins found out their dad and their aunt have different dads.
I did, my whole family did. I know I have one more centimorgan in common with my mother than my father. But also you find distant cousins through it. You also learn a lot about your genetic history as well.
Load More Replies...I loved doing 23& me and my sister did ancestry.co and we found who my dad’s family was/is. We even have a Facebook page cos there’s so many lost kids from this family, long story short a feral family in mining town New Zealand had 12 kids and those 12 kids were total floozys and had many affairs and side relationships resulting in a huge amount of kids, my dad being one, and all of them being adopted out through an Anglican church that molested nearly all of them.
I met my blood family when I was around 16. Around 18 I found out that there is a family member with special needs of some kind, although I’m not sure who’s child it is, where they are, or what their exact condition is. However upon me asking about her, after she contacted me via social media, I was simply told “We don’t really talk about her, kind of a family rule.” That’s all I have been and will be told, and I haven’t heard from her or from them about her for years.
My parents didn't tell me I was autistic, I had to find out from the freaking diagnosis packet they hid in the office.
My parents told me in middle school but if you were in high school or an adult when you found out then your parents must have issues
Load More Replies...Sadly, doctors told families to institutionalize these children and forget about them right up to the 70s.
Sad. I worked as a hospice nurse & we had a 21 year old girl with special needs come in for respite care. She was a serious family secret. Dad was a minister yet & he & his wife never told anybody about her existence. When she was first born she could have had surgery to repair what eventually would have kept her alive. The plan was for that issue to take her as quickly as possible. And she was their only child yet.
And what if it's a hereditary condition? Chances are, if it came from the OP's side of the family instead of the other parent, it might pop up again. Withholding information isn't always wise, especially in countries where rare or even frequently appearing genetic conditions aren’t routinely tested and screened in maternity and perinatal care. Some of these can be managed, even preventing disability, if the treatment is started as early as possible. Others only show the risk, as is with Type 1 Diabetes, for instance. There are 7 known gene alleles to this date that each add up to the risk.
My grandparents cheated on each other at different points in time. The results are that I have an uncle who is a decade younger than me, but they may not be biologically related to me since my grandfather may not be biologically my grandfather. I am the only one who knows this as both have told me and only me
Reminds me of the old joke about a woman in the confessional; "Father, my husband cheats on me so much, I'm not sure all my children are his."
My Grandma and her oldest daughter were pregnant at the same time. That's gotta be weird I would think
My husband has an aunt that is 2 years younger than him and he's the first of 5 children. His father wasn't even the oldest but got married and started having kids while his mother hadn't finished her family yet.
Load More Replies...Sounds like your grandparents lived out a real life Pina colada song.
Perhaps they live in The Villages in Florida - it would all make sense then.
Load More Replies...But the grandmother is the same? How can you not be biologically related unless the grandfather smuggled a child into the family without the grandmother knowing? Am I missing something?
No-one stated the grandmother is the same. The uncle in question is likely the result of an affair of the grandfather's.
Load More Replies...But isn’t your grandmother ALSO biologically related to you? If she isn’t a step grandmother, then she IS. Family relationships and DNA are not just patrilineal, you know. They’re 50% matrilineal.
I think they're saying the decade-younger uncle is a result of the grandfather's affair.
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My mom’s side of the family believes in airing it all out. There’s not a secret than hasn’t been told. However, my dad’s side…my half siblings don’t know that our dad had an affair when he was first married to my sister’s mom and possibly had another child in Germany (where he was stationed) that would be around my sister’s age.
My grandmother is really my aunt.
Potential explanation: Older sister raises younger sister, then younger sister has a baby. The baby knows the older sister as "grandma."
There's rumor about a side of my extend father's family (my father's family is an infinite source of secrets and lies) that could match. One of my grand father's cousine may had a kid with a german soldier while her husband was in Germany ("Service de Travail Obligatoire" during ww2) and the baby girl was raised by the said cousine elder daughter and her brand new husband as their kid to avoid drama.
Load More Replies...Had a friend who's sister was his mother. She had him at a very young age, 16 and her parents adopted him. When he was old enough to grasp the concept 13 or so they filled him in and he was cool with it and adapted pretty well but still considered his grandparents as his parents as they had actually raised him
OP grew up thinking its grandparents were its parents and its mother was its sister. Happend some times in the past when a teenager got pregnant.
Load More Replies...Not uncommon for our of wedlock pregnancy before 1970. Almost unheard of now
I've had "your aunt is really your mom" in my family referring to my grandma
That I question my existence at least daily. I despise taking care of everyone's needs, while mine are neglected. My husband is great, but he's part of the problem. He often expects too much from me.
If he has no idea he's not meeting her needs or is expecting too much from her because she doesn't say anything then he might actually be great... if she's told him this stuff and he hasn't fixed it then he's trash lol
Load More Replies...It’s never too late to stop walking down the wrong path—Turkish proverb. Look into getting help, one step at a time. You deserve a decent life.
Is he really expecting too much or is he taking you at your word when you say, "nothing's wrong," "it's fine,"and "I can handle it?"
I feel this as a single parent of 1 child of a dead dad, 1 child of a deadbeat abusive dad (both awful), and then work, and family health issues. I end up taking care of everyone but myself.
every day i feel im running a race i will always lose. my kids are small and im obviously going to put them first. but then everything else starts coming in first, the laundry, the dishes, the cleaning, the bathing, brushing teeth, making beds, prepping food, going to work, serving customer after customer, coming home and every single time the children need something im ALWAYS the one who deals with it. every spill, every bruise, every fall. last night my husband had finished his dinner before i even got to sit down and when i did sit down my oldest kid needed to use the bathroom. we keep the doors locked bc our youngest will wonder in and over fill the sink or try to fall head first in the toilet (i dont know why) and i ended up taking her bc husband was too busy. too busy with what i dont know bc we werent doing anything. im tired of cold food, cold showers, 3 hours of sleep. i dont blame kids for being kids. but gods im screaming for help in a crowded room and no one can hear me
My dear, time to change things in your life. Time to ask things for yourself and put yourself first (with kids that is slightly different). It takes a lot of time and work, find a therapist and take baby steps. Talk to your loved ones about it, take them along in your efforts, so they know you are making changes. Those changes will affect them as well. Hopefully they support you. 💪❤️🩹 as @nancethetank said eloquently: it is not too late to change your path!
My mother has actively cheated on my father multiple times. Me and my sister think it's only online for the most part but at least once she slept with some who was living with them at the time a few years ago.
Emotional affairs, such as online affairs, are frequently more damaging than a physical one. It could be argued "I was drunk" or some such thing, but giving away your heart takes active participation over a period of time, and is, IMHO, a greater betrayal of trust.
She "actively cheated"? What exactly do I have to picture in my mind under "passively cheating" then?
Emotional affairs?! This is called friendship. Sharing your feelings and fears, caring deeply for another, having someone you can rely on: this is a close friendship and we should all have them!
My mother was a serial cheater and my middle sister was extremely attached to her. Both my parents are dead(and were divorced by the time I found out, but it went on for YEARS), I don’t know if dad ever found out, but I hope she never does. It’ll crush her beyond repair.
I keep hearing my grandpa has a second family that he’s been hiding for 60+ years but no one will talk about it with me. I’m 30M and could care less as this point I’m just curious that my mom has other siblings out there I guess
I must be tired. I read it as grandpa had a 60 second family and i thought it was a quickie. You know, done in 60 seconds.
A couple of years ago, my family and I met up with my parents/grandma/siblings and their families at a big beach house in North Myrtle Beach for family vacation. I had gotten really into my ancestry and was doing all kinds of research on top doing the little DNA kits and all that stuff. These ancestry services link you to folks who you share common ancestry with “So-so is your 4th cousin.” Yada yada.
I was sharing some fun harmless findings with my dad, oldest brother, and grandma out on the deck, and then I bring up how I thought it was odd that 3 of my cousins born to my dads older brother were popping up as my “2nd or 3rd cousins”; the middle daughter in that trio had her ancestry stuff done through the same service as me so her profile was linked to mine immediately. So I say “Why does ‘H’ show up as a 2nd/3rd cousin if she’s my 1st cousin? Uncle B’s daughters should be my 1st cousins.”
Grandma gets up without a word and walks into the house and right to her room. My oldest brother and dad share a look between each other where I could tell they were both on the same wavelength about something I was oblivious too, and my dad says “Well I guess that answers that question.”
My oldest brother ( who is 11 years older than me and is from my dads first marriage) let’s me in on the family rumor that had been circulating long before I was born: When my late grandfather was overseas serving in the Korean War, it is alleged that my grandma, who was still just my grandpa’s girlfriend at the time, got pregnant with Uncle B by another man. Some ex from her high school days whose name my dad seemed to remember being brought up in arguments between his parents when he was a kid. My grandpa came home from the war, they got married immediately and I guess the math of when Uncle B was born and when my grandpa came home lined up just enough to make it believable that Uncle B was indeed my grandpas 1st born son. But Uncle B looks NOTHING like my dad and the other 2 brothers. He’s short and has a different look to him whereas my dad and his younger brothers are all tall behemoths of men whom resemble each other and their dad. I never thought of it before but now when I look at photos I can’t help but notice just how different Uncle B appears in comparison.
My ancestry discovery and my grandmothers reaction to it basically gave that rumor steady legs to stand on. And we have not spoken about it since that night. Only my dad, brother and I 100% know. And at this point we see no reason to bring it to light.
Edit: In addition, my cousin ‘H’ has her ancestry profile set to private so I can’t see her “tree” but if she did her dna/ancestry thing too I’m sure she has discovered the truth as well. So I’m assuming at least she knows as well that her dad has a different dad than my grandpa
Why on earth wpuld someone do a dna test is beyond me. I've never heard of anything positive coming off it and meanwhile, some shady company has your dna profile and by extension, part of all your ascendants, descendants and siblings....
There are pros and cons. I have a life long friend who was adopted (she knew it) and via DNA was able to connect with her bio father, some sisters and cousins she didn't know she had. Her adoptive parents have passed and for her it has been a very positive thing. I haven't done one but have considered it just because I don't know a lot about my family tree. Not because of dark secrets but because of moving around a lot when I was young and not asking questions I should have asked before my parents died. It wasn't until I found paperwork in my grandmother's stuff that I knew she immigrated as a girl from French Canada. Perhaps the french maiden name should have been a clue.
Load More Replies...I would like to do one but the cost is a deterrent. I know some about my dad's because my dad retired close to most of them. On the other hand I don't know much about my mom's side. I know that I did have some cousins in KY. My grandfather was much older than grandma, she was his 3rd wife, and he had children from his 1st that were older than her. I'd like to know more about his family.
Not the first time I've heard about family drama starting from people digging into their ancestry O_o
The sheer amount of s**t my family talks behind each other's backs. I'm the youngest of the family and no one thinks I listen, so I've heard EVERYTHING. it's out of the good grace of my heart that I keep it to myself. I have so much blackmail and use none of it. a shame really.
Edit: some of you have asked for the juicy details, so here's a few of the best tidbits:
- The entire family thinks my cousin is an irresponsible dumpster fire and that his Fiancée is too good for him. Yes, you read that right, everyone likes the FIANCEE more than the family member. YIKES.
- Absolutely everyone hates my dad's parents. We all barely tolerate them for the inheritance. Everyone's hoping they kick it sooner rather than later. It'd certainly make the holidays more pleasant.
- My aunt is cheap as they come. There's a running joke that if any one of us will be a millionaire, it'll be her. Almost never pays for herself and she's still single and has been for decades. The family's accepted she'll probably die single at this rate. My family also has a weird problem with her living in a condo at 48 for some reason.
- I'm not often there for the gossip about my own family for obvious reasons, but I can only assume much of it revolves around how my mom deserves a better husband than my dad.
edit 2: since there has been a multitude of misunderstandings, let me be clear: no, I don't gossip about my friends, no I don't think living in a condo is bad, no I don't enjoy the constant tension, and no I won't share any more personal details about the situation. My poor sweet inbox, you have been abused.
I'm still stuck on the aunt. I get that not paying one's way saves money. But how on earth does being single equate to becoming a millionaire?
My wifes much older brother cheated on his first wife (and second, third and fourth...) and the family kept her as an "Aunt" and disowned him. And rightly so...
Idk about tearing the family apart but I’m pretty sure my estranged older half brother, ~20 years older than me, and his daughter tried to wrangle me into some sort of scam. They had both recently gotten out of state prison after doing short stints for drugs. While they were in the slammer my dad’s mom passed away. My dad had already passed and he was an only child. My grandma had like 3 different life insurance policies that were all paid out according to her wishes, that I know of. Well my dad’s will was never legally executed and therefore my brother couldn’t get any info/payment from my grandma’s will/life insurance since my dad wasn’t named in them since he had passed. I think they were trying to sue one of the insurance policies stating that the policy hadn’t been paid out. Well they needed my signature to execute my dad’s will since I’m named as a child in it so they could have the legal basis to sue. What they didn’t anticipate was that I worked for my local sheriffs office at the time. I listened to their b******t a*s dumb inmate story then called the law firm they had “hired” to make all of this happen. His story was stupid af too. So I got all the info I needed then started making calls. I called the insurance company and the lady I talked to was soo nice. She gave me a few well timed hints and suggestions on who I should call next and told me what she could legally tell me about my grandmother’s policy. Made some more phone calls then called my brother back to get his story again…which still didn’t make sense so I told him what all I had found out and they dropped the whole matter all of a sudden.
Good for you. The old saying trust but verify in this incident is more like don't trust and verify.
This story seems confusing but might be less so with more info. In the USA anyway, the will has no bearing on a life insurance policy. They are completely separate and the heirs of the estate don't even have to be informed who the beneficiaries of the LI were. LI would only pay the estate of the deceased (I assume) if they were unable to pay the designated beneficiaries. Meanwhile, whoever is assigned as the executor or administrator of the estate (even if that was the state) would have full knowledge of what funds were paid to the estate. I have been both an administrator and an executive of estates that included LI, retirement funds and a CD that all had either different beneficiaries than the heirs and/or only included a couple of the heirs. In my experience the companies don't want to talk to you / give anything up unless you give them a copy of Letters Testamentary proving you are the executor of the estate.
I had a suspicion that my mom was cheating on my dad about 8 months before she left him—for the other dude. But I was drinking at the time (at a bar with mom) and questioned what I’d seen, and I didn’t have proof.
Your responses are kind, but these posts are taken from Reddit. The original poster, OP, can’t see your comment.
Load More Replies...It seems people often think they are being way sneakier than they really are. When my ex wife was sneaking around on then husband number 4 with current husband number 5 it was fairly obvious to me and my adult daughters. When I asked her about it privately it was like when they asked Putin if he was planning to invade Ukraine. "What? Ridiculous Absolutely not. Whatever gave you that idea?" Nobody in the immediate family was surprised when a few months later 4 was a 'bad person' but she just happened to fall in love with 5.
My grandparents will- they’ve left my mum there house and are fully leaving out there other kids. It’s going to be chaos when it all comes out. They did write a very sassy letter to be read when they die but I know it won’t be pleasant for my family as we will get the blame for what my grandparents decided.
Then don't read the letter, if it's just going to throw oil onto the fire. What are your grandparents going to do; haunt you?
Yes, in this case the potential fall-out from reading the letter trumps the wish of your deceased grandparents of having read the letter aloud.
Load More Replies...in my country it doesn't matter what the will says, all children get equal shares (sadly)
I would like to know why it is assumed that BOTH grandparents die at the same time and there is only one setting upon which this "letter" would hypothetically be read. Gobbledygook if you ask me, which you don't of course ! /s
Not going to break apart the family, but I'm curious about what happens to family gatherings once my grandma passes away. She's 94 and in pretty good health for her age. She's also one of the most petty and mean spirited women I've ever met. I'm curious what comes out when her health starts spiraling.
There's a very thinly veiled hatred of my mother and both my Aunts. One has a child from a previous marriage that has been cut out of the will, which has been causing problems for the last two decades (Christmas gifts are always cash and he's been getting mega shafted. One year a few years ago me, my sister and bio-cousin all got $1000, he got $1), he's never invited on vacations but my Aunt and Uncle are, etc. My other aunt is a bit of an alcoholic when my grandma is around (and only when she's around) and is definitely not afraid to speak her mind.
Meanwhile all this s**t means I see the extended family maybe once a year and my cousins I was close with growing up are now rather distant (although that's on me because I'm terrible at communicating and reaching out to anyone).
My personal experience - the family, extended family as well, all decide that they should be given, and are entitled to, whatever is left “for putting up with her.” When my monster of a grandmother died (she was abusive to everyone but me and my sister) cars, money, horses, hunting property, even everyday items like picture frames were fought over. I didn’t want reminders of her, but I swear the whole family turned on each other. The only good thing that happened was my father and my uncle became really close as they went through legal issues. NGL - haven’t spoken to anyone on that side except my uncle since. They all showed who they were - vultures.
I believe when she goes on to her just reward, a rousing chorus of "Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead" around the casket at the funeral is in order
My stepdad take me aside right after the wedding and told me "F**k you, I married your mother" and gave me the finger.
From the post: "My mother divorced when I was 18, kicked me out when I was 21. I had been living outside town for a year when she moved with that guy, he always was quite rude to me and I didn't spend much time with my mother because of that but never told her anything. They got married after a few years."
Load More Replies...As in, you may be your mother's kid but I will never ever consider you mine or take care of you?
Maybe stepdad married her mom to be near the daughter, to groom her, and have her as a lover in the end, and then the daughter marries another man!
I hate every single one of them. I hate their guts. I view them as no more than petty pricks and immature hungry monkeys. Of course, if I reveal it, I’m gonna get stoned. I’d rather sit alone than join everyone for the holidays, or I’d rather visit my friends’ families.
Maybe they're genuinely $hitty, what do I know, but an old saying also goes like "If everyone around you is an a$$hole, chances are YOU are the only a$$hole."
Meh, not always. My mother and stepfather were horribly abusive towards me. The whole family knew, but they helped cover for her because, in my aunt's words, "It just wasn't worth the drama your mom would've kicked up". My life and sanity were worth less than keeping her happy and smelling like roses. I only talk to two cousins now. I'm not saying this is definitely the case with OP and their family, but it's certainly possible.
Load More Replies...I thought the same at first, but then realized I wouldn’t want to read a list of secret abuse, violence, or death. It is a bit funny how many of these were revealed through ancestry .com or similar services though.
Load More Replies...Found out my late ex-father-in-law was gay. His wife knew and maybe a few others but none of his children were aware. When he died, I instructed my son to get rid of his grandfather's stash of gay porn before anyone else-especially his mother found it. As far as I know no one else in the family ever found out.
There was a skit I saw many years ago. It was insurance so that if you died suddenly they would come to your house and get rid of anything embarrassing before your family saw it.
Load More Replies...I have one that could cause drama in my extended family: the fact that I'm omnisexual and nonbinary. My family is very religious(I am too, but they're HOMOPHOBIC-religious) and my parents and sister accept me and don't care but my extended family would freak. So for now I just pretend to be a straight cis-girl. I'll come out to them someday.
My Dad didn’t directly or intentionally cause my sister’s death, but he played a roll in the chain reaction. Thankfully my Dad has a terrible memory because this would absolutely destroy him, my Mom and I discussed it once 15 years ago and never mentioned it again. No one else in the family knows what really happened. When my Mom was 7 months pregnant with my sister, my Dad stumbled on a rug and pulled her down with him. She was initially fine but her water broke later that night. My baby sister was born premature and died a few weeks later in the NICU. Dad never connected the dots.
Family have certainly familied here. Most of this is basic family nonsense.
Dear Lord....my aunt (mum's sister) told me a few years ago about how my mother cheated on Pops, finally divorced him, and then "soft kidnapped" my brother and turned him against my father and I. (He went to live with mum and her new husband, I stayed with my father.) In any case - my brother and I barely speak, for decades now. Mum and her husband are long gone, and our father turns 90 next spring. His days are numbered. I expect that when the time comes, my brother and I will be proper and correct, but then never speak again.
I thought the same at first, but then realized I wouldn’t want to read a list of secret abuse, violence, or death. It is a bit funny how many of these were revealed through ancestry .com or similar services though.
Load More Replies...Found out my late ex-father-in-law was gay. His wife knew and maybe a few others but none of his children were aware. When he died, I instructed my son to get rid of his grandfather's stash of gay porn before anyone else-especially his mother found it. As far as I know no one else in the family ever found out.
There was a skit I saw many years ago. It was insurance so that if you died suddenly they would come to your house and get rid of anything embarrassing before your family saw it.
Load More Replies...I have one that could cause drama in my extended family: the fact that I'm omnisexual and nonbinary. My family is very religious(I am too, but they're HOMOPHOBIC-religious) and my parents and sister accept me and don't care but my extended family would freak. So for now I just pretend to be a straight cis-girl. I'll come out to them someday.
My Dad didn’t directly or intentionally cause my sister’s death, but he played a roll in the chain reaction. Thankfully my Dad has a terrible memory because this would absolutely destroy him, my Mom and I discussed it once 15 years ago and never mentioned it again. No one else in the family knows what really happened. When my Mom was 7 months pregnant with my sister, my Dad stumbled on a rug and pulled her down with him. She was initially fine but her water broke later that night. My baby sister was born premature and died a few weeks later in the NICU. Dad never connected the dots.
Family have certainly familied here. Most of this is basic family nonsense.
Dear Lord....my aunt (mum's sister) told me a few years ago about how my mother cheated on Pops, finally divorced him, and then "soft kidnapped" my brother and turned him against my father and I. (He went to live with mum and her new husband, I stayed with my father.) In any case - my brother and I barely speak, for decades now. Mum and her husband are long gone, and our father turns 90 next spring. His days are numbered. I expect that when the time comes, my brother and I will be proper and correct, but then never speak again.
