When most people purchase a home, they are thrilled to have a safe, comfortable space to return to every evening. A humble abode that they can do whatever they like with. Tear down a wall separating the kitchen and living room to make one large space? Sure! Install wood floors in the dining room and a pool in the backyard? Whatever floats your boat! Your home is yours, and it should be the coziest, most welcoming place in the world for you.
Sometimes, however, homeowners don’t get to have the full say in how they decorate and run their homes, because HOAs might insert their input as well… An HOA, or Homeowner’s Association, is an evil group of people designed to make residents’ lives challenging– Oh, excuse me. I meant it’s “an organization in a subdivision, planned community, or condominium building that makes and enforces rules for the properties and residents”, according to Investopedia. But in reality, HOAs are notorious for implementing and enforcing outlandish rules and regulations and responding swiftly with hefty fines any time a resident refuses to comply.
Down below, we’ve gathered some of the most annoying examples of HOAs exercising their power over residents that homeowners have shared on the Mildly Infuriating subreddit, so you can either relate to their pain or count your blessings if you live in a non-HOA area. Keep reading to also find an interview with the hosts of The HOA Show podcast to hear their thoughts on the topic.
Be sure to upvote the photos that make you want to file a complaint against these HOAs, and let us know in the comments if you’ve ever personally felt victimized by a frustrating HOA. And then if you’re interested in checking out even more HOA horror stories we’ve featured on Bored Panda before, we’ve got you covered with this article right here.
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Celebrating Pride Despite Our HOA Not Allowing Pride Flags. They Don’t Regulate Yard Lights Though, So... There’s Always A Loophole
To gain some insight from the experts on HOAs, we reached out to the hosts of The HOA Show podcast. First, we wanted to know what inspired them to create their show. "Since its inception, this podcast has been an endeavor underwritten by Cline Agency Insurance Brokers," they told Bored Panda. "Education has always been of upmost importance for the Agency, and because we found ourselves being frequently asked the same questions by different clients, we wondered if there was a way for us to compile the information into one, easy to understand place, so that we could readily pass it along to Board Members and Community Managers. It quickly became apparent that podcasting would offer that perfect marriage of accessibility and reliability for sharing valuable information."
We also wanted to hear about some of the worst HOA stories they had ever heard. "Sadly, there are too many to list," the hosts shared. "In terms of severity, the stories are never sadder or more severe than when the actions or inactions of a Board of Directors lead to serious injury or the loss of life. We’d recommend that folks tune in to our spin-off podcast 'Love Thy Neighbor', essentially a True Crime Mini-Series on Community Associations. We have four episodes already out that detail some of the worst moments of a Community Association’s life. Warning, they can get pretty dark."
The Hoa In My Friend’s Neighborhood Recently Threatened Her Neighbors With A Fine If They Didn’t Hide Their Trash Cans. They’ve Been In The Same Spot For Over A Decade
We also asked the hosts if they think HOAs are overall a negative or positive thing. "Community Associations have the opportunity to be one of the most positive experiences that people can be a part of," they told Bored Panda. "Human beings are communal by nature. We seek and crave strong communities. And when you have a group of wonderful people, all volunteering their time on behalf of the community, with the main intention of making their community stronger and better, then you have a winning recipe for a positive experience. But those volunteers must be putting the needs of the community above their own. We call this Fiduciary Duty."
"When you have Board Members, Volunteers, or just members of a community that place their own needs above those of the community, that’s when you’re most likely to have a negative experience," the hosts explained. "When personal agendas and vendettas are the motivating factors behind people’s involvement and decisions, you’ll inevitably foster a feeling of hostility and resentment from those folks who are harmed or simply left out by the clearly selfish choices of those few individuals."
HOA Violates Your Property Rights
I'd tell her that her breathing is a disturbance and must be stopped, effective immediately
Lastly, the podcast hosts shared, "Over the course of producing this podcast, one of the things we’ve been so grateful for are all the guest experts who have participated in these podcast conversations. Without exception, all the experts who have donated their time are considered by the industry to be exceptionally qualified and experienced in their respective fields. Their guidance and expertise have undoubtedly helped thousands of communities."
If you'd like to hear more HOA stories, be sure to check out The HOA Show right here.
A Local HOA Karen Forced A Father To Tear Down His Kids’ Recently Built Tree House
Head Of Hoa Lives Across From This Guy And Was Giving Him A Hard Time About The Appearance Of His House. So He Painted His House Pepto Pink Out Of Spite
If you’re not familiar with the concept of HOAs, count your blessings. They are not inherently bad, but particularly in the United States, they have gained a reputation for implementing ridiculous regulations and charging their residents outlandish fees for simple things. There’s currently a drought happening, so your grass is dying? We don’t care, here’s a $50 fine because your lawn is unsightly. You painted your garage door light blue? That’s not an approved color. Here’s a $200 fine, and you have one month to repaint it before you are met with another fee.
In theory, HOAs ensure that a neighborhood is neat and tidy and that residents have somewhere to go to voice their complaints, but in practice, they tend to cause more issues than they solve. It’s great to have an organization in place to decorate the neighborhood with lights during the holidays and host community parties at the neighborhood pool. But is it worth the enormous fees and having to comply with strict rules? Many homeowners would say, “Absolutely not.”
Thank You All For Your Prayers. The Hoa Sprayed Toxic Chemicals In The Backyard Causing Severe Tremoring, Hypersalivation, And Neurological Problems
The crazy thing about HOAs is that although many residents don’t even support their presence, they are still required to financially support them. Just how expensive HOA fees are depends greatly on the neighborhood, city and state a homeowner lives in. But at the state level, HOAs in New York and Hawaii charge the heftiest fees, averaging between $520-570 per month. And when it comes to the state that charges the lowest HOA fees, that would be Wyoming, with an average cost of $100 per month.
It’s absurd to think that these homeowners are all essentially paying the cost of renting another apartment, or at least a bedroom in one, just to keep the people in charge of their neighborhood satisfied. In 2019, the average monthly HOA fee in the United States came out to $290, which was $40 more than the average monthly cost of utilities for Americans. But instead of paying for heating, water, gas and electricity, these residents were paying for someone to keep a close eye on them all and hand out fines every time a trash can was visible or an 'unsightly' car was parked on the street.
Kids Are Having Fun With Friends So A Neighbor Reported To Hoa That They Must Be Running A Childcare
Neighbor's Response To Hoa's Email About Taking Down Halloween Decorations. Now It's A Christmas Decoration
A Friend Of Mine Got A Complaint From Her Hoa About A Dying Shrub On Her Property
While HOAs tend to be classified as a uniquely American issue, there are actually various organizations around the globe that monitor homeowners and residents in annoyingly similar ways. In Japan, for example, there are “management associations” in place that have presidents, just like HOAs, and serve to keep an eye on condo buildings and their residents. The president and board of these management associations are responsible for setting and collecting fees from residents including a management fee, which is intended to pay for maintenance in the building, and a repair fee, which will go to major repairs in the future. And while these fees may sound like no big deal in theory, as all residents want their buildings operating smoothly, they often become problematic.
My Neighbor Received A Letter From Hoa Saying His Tree Needed To Be Cut Down. This Is What He Did With The Trunk
An Hoa Fined Woman $100 For Moving Her Car After A Snow Dusting Leaving Behind This Lovely Flurry Phallus
A few weeks ago we got a pitiful little snow that was barely really a frost. Just enough to cause a little trouble of the roads (cause any sort of weather causes troubles on the roads here), but nothing severe. So my husband and I go out, get in our cars, and leave for the work day.
Awhile later (I don't remember if it was five days or a week), we get an email from the HOA saying we are being fined for something. They aren't very specific at first, but they are saying it's about the snow and our cars. We are very confused. There is not enough snow to shovel, as you will soon see.
Finally, after a few back-and-forth emails, they simply send us a picture "describing the problem". The imprint our car left in this and somehow that's our fault.
I died laughing y'all. This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of being fined for, and we flat-out told them we weren't paying. Eventually, they realized we were serious about not paying, and since there were no by-laws on the books about something like this, they dropped it.
This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen 😂 so glad they dropped it - when you really think about it, humans are so weird, like we’re honestly just a bunch of animals on a floating rock in space, HOAs need to chill 😂
Homeowners Association Requires That This Should Be A Lawn
If condo residents in Japan find a management association’s fees to be too high, they won’t want to live there in the first place. But if the fees are too low, there won’t be enough funds available to keep the building in tip-top shape. For example, the life expectancy of a condo in Japan is typically about 40 years. After that, it becomes necessary to make major updates, particularly to the plumbing. But there are currently hundreds of thousands of condos in Japan that have been around longer than 40 years and are in need of serious maintenance. Because of this, condo owners are often suddenly met with huge fees and fines, because the building has not raised enough money to cover the repairs and the jobs have become more intense after being put off.
The Neighbors Hate Us And Went To The Hoa Because We Had Something "Poisonous" Growing In Our Backyard. Here's Our Harvest
When The Hoa Needs To Place A Notice About Farting In The Elevator
Hoa Requires Elaborate Christmas Decorations In This Neighborhood. This Resident Complied
Another inherent problem with these management associations in Japan is that it can be hard to find anyone who is interested in running them. Most residents have no interest, which often means that the only people who do want to be in charge become a bit too power-hungry. This means that the associations are often rampant with fraud and mismanagement because there aren’t enough residents playing active roles in the organization and keeping the president and board members in check. This sounds quite familiar. I’m sure many of the photos featured on this list would have never happened had these HOA presidents and board members sought outside opinions on the matters. But they seem to have become too wrapped up in their power, and all sense of logic has flown out the window.
Our Hoa Illegally Gutted The Courtyard Behind Our Townhome That Contained Very Large Privacy Bushes And Protected Cypress Trees
$50 Fine From Hoa For Having A Dead Lawn (It's Rock) And/Or Excessive Weeds (None)
Hoa: Done
So if HOAs are charging exorbitant fees to millions of people around the world, you might be wondering where all of this money is going. Well, according to Quicken Loans, HOA fees cover a variety of things including amenities like neighborhood pools and community clubhouses, municipal services like trash removal and neighborhood security, maintenance and repairs, and a reserve fund kept for any unexpected emergencies. For example, the reserve fund should cover the cost if a natural disaster like a hurricane knocks over a huge tree and leaves it blocking the road in the entrance of the neighborhood. What is interesting, though, is that not all HOA communities have amenities. I can understand some of these costs, but if your neighborhood does not have a pool, a security guard, or any grass and trees that aren’t on private property, I sure hope you are not paying HOA fees.
A Friend’s Hoa Sent Letter Requesting Kids Only Play In Park, Not In Yards
My yard would have a For Sale sign in it by the next day. Let kids be kids!
Hoa Landscapers Threw In A Free Internet Trim
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My Parents Hoa Passed A Rule This Year That All Houses In The Neighborhood Must Be 35' From The Road. These Neighbors May Have To Tear Their House (Which Has Been There For 12+ Years) If They Are Not Approved For A Variance Permit
That is utterly ridiculous. If you’re going to make a rule like that, at least make it for future houses.
Another problem with HOAs in the United States is that they have become almost impossible to avoid. About 75 million Americans currently live in HOA communities, and that number has only been rising over the years. So moving into an area without an aggressive HOA might be easier said than done. If you are trying to avoid the tyranny of an HOA, Deborah Goonan of Independent American Communities provides some tips. First and foremost, they recommend renting rather than buying. While owning a home is a dream of many individuals, it can actually be smarter to rent for a variety of reasons.
“The combination of a mortgage payment, property taxes, insurance, home maintenance, and HOA fees can stretch your household budget to the brink. And if — or when — your homeowners, condo, or co-op association raises its regular fees or imposes a special assessment, the additional cost can break your budget,” Deborah explains. “Rather than pinching every penny to afford homeownership, rent a few years longer, pay down debts, and save more money for a down payment, retirement, or both.”
Our Lovely Homeowner's Association Dog Park. No Shade, No Turf, Just Gravel, And Rocks
Those people need to walk there at 12:00 barefooted so they know how paws will feel -_-
Hoa Cut Our Privacy Bushes In Half Without Asking
I wonder if you can file a trespassing report with the police or destruction of proerty?
I'm Parked On My Property And I Get A Violation. F*ck The Hoa
Deborah also recommends seeking out an older home if you’re trying to avoid joining an HOA. She notes that as of 2018, the United States had at least 346,000 HOA-governed communities. But in 1970, there were only a mere 10,000 of them nationwide. Because of this, many older homes will not be part of a mandatory homeowner’s association area. And even if they are, Deborah says that older versions of HOAs tend to be much less strict than their younger counterparts. “Pre-1970 HOAs are more likely to be voluntary-membership associations,” she explains. “That means you don’t have to join the association and pay annual dues, unless you want to. In contrast to mandatory HOAs, voluntary membership associations don’t have the power to impose monetary fines, and they cannot file a lien on your home and foreclose to collect unpaid fees.”
My Hoa Put Up Fences So We Can't Drive From Section To Section
Reminiscent of a Berlin Wall check point. Not only is it bleak to look at, it’s outrageous to restrict peoples free movement.
Our Hoa Installed Some Sprinklers By The Lake Last Year. Here Is One Of The Heads A Year Later That Waters The Lake Twice A Day
Someday, I will invent a cure for stupid. Edit: Woah… Thanks for the likes. If you’re wondering how it’s going, I actually spent some time researching intellectual deficit last night, and categorized, charted, and theorized a shared root cause of eight common variations of it. There are actually many kinds of stupid, just as there are many kinds of intelligence. No offense to anyone, but I think it’s a result of cognitive imbalance of development between paired opposite cognitive functions. In other words, the famously’ditzy social hot person’ tends to lack introspective function to compliment her social skills, for example, and this can keep her from exploring and analyzing her own behavior, which cripples her/his social ability as well. You need a healthy feedback loop between two opposite functions to make good judgements based on the data each respective function picks up.
The Only Thing Worse Than A Florida Hurricane Is A Florida Home Owner's Association
It's passed, not past...they can't even do simple grammar right. They don't deserve your acknowledgement.
I hope these photos are not making your blood boil and that you don't have to tiptoe around your current neighborhood for fear of an HOA fine showing up on your doorstep. Be sure to keep upvoting the photos that you find most ridiculous, and then feel free to share any personal experiences with power-hungry HOAs in the comments below. While HOAs seem to be flourishing around the world, particularly in the United States, hopefully calling them out online will eventually lead to them become a bit more relaxed. Only time will tell... But in the meantime, if you'd like to hear even more HOA horror stories, don't forget to check out this Bored Panda article next.
Texas Couple Being Sued By Their Hoa For Feeding Ducks
Silly. Likely she is on a lake or pond that has basically domesticated ducks and is supporting the ecosystem. Feed the birds!
Hoa Decides To Ruin Our Sideyard By Putting A Sidewalk Through It, Then Bursts The Water Pipes Coming To Our House
Hoa Refuses To Remove Dog Waste After Months Of Payment. They Ignored Calls And Dealt With The Smell Complaint By Turning Each Doggie Station Into An Overflow
Hoa Recently Replaced Our House Numbers
You All Enjoyed My "Handwriting" And Pink Boots Last Time. I'm Back Today After Receiving A Note From The HOA Reminding Me To Actually Finish Power Washing My Driveway
The Hoa Is Ridiculous. You Can Clearly See A Net On That Goal In The Picture They Took
Circle the net, with arrows pointing to it from all sides, and send it back to them.
The Hoa Mounted This Sign Slanted
Attention Residents: Henceforth all signs will be square. No diamonds or octagons. SQUARE.
Hoa Wanting Free Labor For Cleaning Up Construction Trash Home Builders Left In Our Neighborhood
Hoa Decided Behind This Bush Was A Good Place For Our House Number To Be Placed
Hoa: You Broke The Bylaws By Lettings Your Kids Play On The Side Of The Street
Hoa’s Need To Chill Out, I’m Not 100% Sure, But I Think The Hoa Blocked A Walkway To Another Neighborhood. Very Annoying
Our Hoa Made Us Each Pay About $30 Each To Set Up Lights Around Our Neighborhood Sign (Sorry For Bad Lighting)
My Hoa Put Up A Fence The Week Before I Stained Mine
I find it hard to believe that people tolerate the existence of HOA's! To me they seem like a bureaucracy gone mad! For a country that seems obsessed with freedom to the point of allowing mass school shootings because they must have the freedom to 'bear arms' it's hard to understand how you tolerate such restrictive HOA's!!!
They're not really even a bureaucracy in most cases, they're just a bunch of neighborhood busybodies with the contractual power to dictate what you do with your property. The only way to purchase a house in many neighborhoods is to agree to the contract. In my area, nearly all middle-to-upper class neighborhoods have them, but we refuse to live in a neighborhood with a HOA, so we live in a lower-to-middle income neighborhood with a higher crime rate. I'd rather deal with crime than with a HOA.
Load More Replies...America - land of the free - invents HOA's and gives them enough power/legal access to actually take people's home away from them. Oh and then wonders why the rest of the world thinks they're crazy.
America is still the land of the free. Nobody is required to live in an HOA. They choose to do that.
Load More Replies...I don't knot why anyone would buy a home where they have a hoa. You're buying your own place, but letting neighbors and other assorted azz-wholes decide what you can do with and in your own property. Nope nope and eff-nope
This is why when I bought my first home I waited a few more years so I didn't have to start with a condo or townhouse. I would be fined on the daily by an HOA and probably go out of my way to p**s them off lol
Load More Replies...David Harris and Cassie are right. Why do we put up with HOA nonsense in the US? If you really want to fix it join your HOA and dismantle it from the inside. A little local activism, no matter who you are, can go a long way.
If you're not paying my mortgage, you don't get to impose random rules regarding my property. HOAs should be made illegal. They're garbage dumps for people who thrive on imposing control over others because they have no control over their own lives.
So much Freedumb. Glad HOA isnt a thing here as we'd be screwed with a native garden instead of lawn with sprawling vegetable garden and fruit trees everywhere. Not to mention my hubbys classic car collection which sometimes means thers a few cars out on the street. Anyone trimmed a single plant in our yard we'd turn them into compost 😄
Simple solution, if a property is part of one of these associations DON"T TOUCH IT!
Where we live is very rural & have a HOA, also rural. We pay $100/year. It helps pay light bill at our small boat ramp & the pavilion area. It pays for gas so one of the neighbors to use his tractor to smooth out the dirt road. There are no Karen’s or Ken’s. Everyone minds their own business. Though we are all together trying to get rid of the meth house that’s been occupied by the absence owners friends/ family. That’s just a health & safety thing. That s**t stinks.
Don't understand.. You have water, just add some rope and cinder blocks...meth problem solved. 😂
Load More Replies...Where I'm from, there are no such things as HOA. I've never heard of them until reading about them in the US. And I don't think I could ever tolerate half the things other home owners in this post have to deal with.
I'm American and know that I'd get fined nonstop if I was in an HOA home, lol
Load More Replies...A couple of days after moving into our new house, the neighbors came to see us to tell us the whole street cut their grass on the same day so it looks nice. While my brother was unpacking the truck while moving in, the neighbor came to see him about Christmas decorations - in July. We both deeply upset our neighbors.
Don't know why you got down voted. But the lawn thing is a perfect example of Hoa's gone wild. Sad you didn't know till you moved in that your street was all like stepford wives.
Load More Replies...Is this only an American thing? We wouldn't put up with it the other side of the pond. Seems insane in the 'Land of the Free' (oxymoron).
I think it may be...I'm American and have successfully avoided getting property with an HOA.. I just can't with those lunatics!!!
Load More Replies...And...this is why I will NEVER live in a place that has an HOA. No matter how cheap or expensive the fees are - I pay my mortgage, I pay my taxes. No-one has any right to tell me what I can and can't do on my property.
HOAs came into being in response to the Civil Rights Act of 1968. Gone were race-restricting covenants, so the goal was to impose economic standards that Black families would hopefully never be able to afford.
I couldn't continue reading, I'm beyond irritated that HOAs even exist
Sorry, I'm not an adult and don't really understand how the real world works yet, but are these legal? Associations that can fine people for MOVING THEIR CAR or something equally ridiculous?
Sadly, in many cases,yes. The folks buying the house in the HOA controlled area sign a contract when they sign the mountain of paperwork to purchase they property. Lesson of the day is always read any contract before you sign, and if you don't understand the legalese have a lawyer look it over...before your pen touches the paper.
Load More Replies...Our HOA sees that our neighborhood streets are paved, our swimming pool and tennis court are maintained, the clubhouse is maintained so that we can use it for parties and meetings, helps mediate problems with builders, mows vacant lots, checks dams on our lakes and plans activities for neighbors to meet and get to know others. It organizes trash pickup, and garage sale advertisements twice a year. They're not busybodies. They are neighbors volunteering to keep our neighborhood looking good. Don't buy in a community with an HOA if you are not willing to accept some rules and covenants.
Upvote, sounds like you have good understanding neighbors, hope it never goes bad.
Load More Replies...I live in a HOA. My husband and I chose our HOA neighborhood as it is clean and organized. There are places in my city where people have overgrown lawns where the weeds have taken over and places have become derelict. This holds all to a standard so our collective neighborhood doesn't go down in value. For the most part, everyone minds themselves within guidelines (no pink or black house, no cars in the lawn). The HOA fees pays for lawn maintenance and gardening up our front entrance. Plus our boulevards. $100 per year. If someone doesn't pay, well the $100 plus will be taken from the sale of the house when buyer chooses to move.
Again don't know why the downvote, so gave you an upvote to try to help. This is basically why people want an HOA, but not all the other crazy stuff.
Load More Replies...HOAs are for people who don't want to be controlled by the government so instead decide to be controlled by a private entity.
My sister and I both have HOA's (different states) mine is pretty nice. Hers not so much. In fact, her HOA was being investigated for embezzlement. So my sister and some neighbors decided to get rid of them. Voted them all out (which you can do) and elected people who they knew would be open and honest.
I would rather pìss glass than live somewhere that has the authority to tell me what I can or can't do with the property that I paid for.
I lived in a neighborhood in Houston that had an HOA. It was no big deal at first. The house we were buying was new and it backed up to the green space which anyone could walk on around the neighborhood. The builder said the 6’ back fence could be solid wood or have the top foot be fancy screen with a wood top. We didn’t want people peering into our yard so chose wood. About a year later, the builder comes by and they want him to change our fence to match everyone else’s. I pointed out that no one was supposed to have big tv dishes you could see from the street and the guy across the street had a huge one. I told him when they got him to get rid of it I’d let him change my fence ant before that. I didn’t hear back from them.
With all these post here, I think the best solution would be for the HOA to un-exist itself. Talk about minor issues or downright none-of-your-butthurt-business level nonsense...
Had a friend that joined an HOA committee. He would walk his dog at night and carry a tape measure with him. He actually measured the height of the grass in the front yards! If it was over a certain height, that house got a notice about it.
And that's the perfect example of what's wrong with Hoa's, overzealous people like that, instead of minding his own business and enjoying his walk with his dog.
Load More Replies...I live in a building where the HOA president once sued the residents for failing to impeach him on grounds of incompetence. Guy was gone well before I moved in, but the legend lives on.
Again don't know why you were down voted, so tried to fix that
Load More Replies...I dont get it. Is the HOA some kind of club or association that you pay membership for, or some kind of local police, and what happens if you opt out and tell them to Eff off?
Certain gated communities and condos have them here in the US. I've avoided them like the plague and managed to still live in a neighborhood that people are a great community, aren't up in your business, and keep their homes nice. What the hell do I care if my neighbor paints their house bright orange? lol
Load More Replies...When you put power into the wrong hands, this is precisely what happens. Remember all of the mask nazis?
So close, then you mentioned mask mandates as if it were a bad thing
Load More Replies...You can complain about HOAs all you want. But the reason they exist is because people are willing to buy into them. So go ahead and make yourself a victim if that is your thing.
I find it hard to believe that people tolerate the existence of HOA's! To me they seem like a bureaucracy gone mad! For a country that seems obsessed with freedom to the point of allowing mass school shootings because they must have the freedom to 'bear arms' it's hard to understand how you tolerate such restrictive HOA's!!!
They're not really even a bureaucracy in most cases, they're just a bunch of neighborhood busybodies with the contractual power to dictate what you do with your property. The only way to purchase a house in many neighborhoods is to agree to the contract. In my area, nearly all middle-to-upper class neighborhoods have them, but we refuse to live in a neighborhood with a HOA, so we live in a lower-to-middle income neighborhood with a higher crime rate. I'd rather deal with crime than with a HOA.
Load More Replies...America - land of the free - invents HOA's and gives them enough power/legal access to actually take people's home away from them. Oh and then wonders why the rest of the world thinks they're crazy.
America is still the land of the free. Nobody is required to live in an HOA. They choose to do that.
Load More Replies...I don't knot why anyone would buy a home where they have a hoa. You're buying your own place, but letting neighbors and other assorted azz-wholes decide what you can do with and in your own property. Nope nope and eff-nope
This is why when I bought my first home I waited a few more years so I didn't have to start with a condo or townhouse. I would be fined on the daily by an HOA and probably go out of my way to p**s them off lol
Load More Replies...David Harris and Cassie are right. Why do we put up with HOA nonsense in the US? If you really want to fix it join your HOA and dismantle it from the inside. A little local activism, no matter who you are, can go a long way.
If you're not paying my mortgage, you don't get to impose random rules regarding my property. HOAs should be made illegal. They're garbage dumps for people who thrive on imposing control over others because they have no control over their own lives.
So much Freedumb. Glad HOA isnt a thing here as we'd be screwed with a native garden instead of lawn with sprawling vegetable garden and fruit trees everywhere. Not to mention my hubbys classic car collection which sometimes means thers a few cars out on the street. Anyone trimmed a single plant in our yard we'd turn them into compost 😄
Simple solution, if a property is part of one of these associations DON"T TOUCH IT!
Where we live is very rural & have a HOA, also rural. We pay $100/year. It helps pay light bill at our small boat ramp & the pavilion area. It pays for gas so one of the neighbors to use his tractor to smooth out the dirt road. There are no Karen’s or Ken’s. Everyone minds their own business. Though we are all together trying to get rid of the meth house that’s been occupied by the absence owners friends/ family. That’s just a health & safety thing. That s**t stinks.
Don't understand.. You have water, just add some rope and cinder blocks...meth problem solved. 😂
Load More Replies...Where I'm from, there are no such things as HOA. I've never heard of them until reading about them in the US. And I don't think I could ever tolerate half the things other home owners in this post have to deal with.
I'm American and know that I'd get fined nonstop if I was in an HOA home, lol
Load More Replies...A couple of days after moving into our new house, the neighbors came to see us to tell us the whole street cut their grass on the same day so it looks nice. While my brother was unpacking the truck while moving in, the neighbor came to see him about Christmas decorations - in July. We both deeply upset our neighbors.
Don't know why you got down voted. But the lawn thing is a perfect example of Hoa's gone wild. Sad you didn't know till you moved in that your street was all like stepford wives.
Load More Replies...Is this only an American thing? We wouldn't put up with it the other side of the pond. Seems insane in the 'Land of the Free' (oxymoron).
I think it may be...I'm American and have successfully avoided getting property with an HOA.. I just can't with those lunatics!!!
Load More Replies...And...this is why I will NEVER live in a place that has an HOA. No matter how cheap or expensive the fees are - I pay my mortgage, I pay my taxes. No-one has any right to tell me what I can and can't do on my property.
HOAs came into being in response to the Civil Rights Act of 1968. Gone were race-restricting covenants, so the goal was to impose economic standards that Black families would hopefully never be able to afford.
I couldn't continue reading, I'm beyond irritated that HOAs even exist
Sorry, I'm not an adult and don't really understand how the real world works yet, but are these legal? Associations that can fine people for MOVING THEIR CAR or something equally ridiculous?
Sadly, in many cases,yes. The folks buying the house in the HOA controlled area sign a contract when they sign the mountain of paperwork to purchase they property. Lesson of the day is always read any contract before you sign, and if you don't understand the legalese have a lawyer look it over...before your pen touches the paper.
Load More Replies...Our HOA sees that our neighborhood streets are paved, our swimming pool and tennis court are maintained, the clubhouse is maintained so that we can use it for parties and meetings, helps mediate problems with builders, mows vacant lots, checks dams on our lakes and plans activities for neighbors to meet and get to know others. It organizes trash pickup, and garage sale advertisements twice a year. They're not busybodies. They are neighbors volunteering to keep our neighborhood looking good. Don't buy in a community with an HOA if you are not willing to accept some rules and covenants.
Upvote, sounds like you have good understanding neighbors, hope it never goes bad.
Load More Replies...I live in a HOA. My husband and I chose our HOA neighborhood as it is clean and organized. There are places in my city where people have overgrown lawns where the weeds have taken over and places have become derelict. This holds all to a standard so our collective neighborhood doesn't go down in value. For the most part, everyone minds themselves within guidelines (no pink or black house, no cars in the lawn). The HOA fees pays for lawn maintenance and gardening up our front entrance. Plus our boulevards. $100 per year. If someone doesn't pay, well the $100 plus will be taken from the sale of the house when buyer chooses to move.
Again don't know why the downvote, so gave you an upvote to try to help. This is basically why people want an HOA, but not all the other crazy stuff.
Load More Replies...HOAs are for people who don't want to be controlled by the government so instead decide to be controlled by a private entity.
My sister and I both have HOA's (different states) mine is pretty nice. Hers not so much. In fact, her HOA was being investigated for embezzlement. So my sister and some neighbors decided to get rid of them. Voted them all out (which you can do) and elected people who they knew would be open and honest.
I would rather pìss glass than live somewhere that has the authority to tell me what I can or can't do with the property that I paid for.
I lived in a neighborhood in Houston that had an HOA. It was no big deal at first. The house we were buying was new and it backed up to the green space which anyone could walk on around the neighborhood. The builder said the 6’ back fence could be solid wood or have the top foot be fancy screen with a wood top. We didn’t want people peering into our yard so chose wood. About a year later, the builder comes by and they want him to change our fence to match everyone else’s. I pointed out that no one was supposed to have big tv dishes you could see from the street and the guy across the street had a huge one. I told him when they got him to get rid of it I’d let him change my fence ant before that. I didn’t hear back from them.
With all these post here, I think the best solution would be for the HOA to un-exist itself. Talk about minor issues or downright none-of-your-butthurt-business level nonsense...
Had a friend that joined an HOA committee. He would walk his dog at night and carry a tape measure with him. He actually measured the height of the grass in the front yards! If it was over a certain height, that house got a notice about it.
And that's the perfect example of what's wrong with Hoa's, overzealous people like that, instead of minding his own business and enjoying his walk with his dog.
Load More Replies...I live in a building where the HOA president once sued the residents for failing to impeach him on grounds of incompetence. Guy was gone well before I moved in, but the legend lives on.
Again don't know why you were down voted, so tried to fix that
Load More Replies...I dont get it. Is the HOA some kind of club or association that you pay membership for, or some kind of local police, and what happens if you opt out and tell them to Eff off?
Certain gated communities and condos have them here in the US. I've avoided them like the plague and managed to still live in a neighborhood that people are a great community, aren't up in your business, and keep their homes nice. What the hell do I care if my neighbor paints their house bright orange? lol
Load More Replies...When you put power into the wrong hands, this is precisely what happens. Remember all of the mask nazis?
So close, then you mentioned mask mandates as if it were a bad thing
Load More Replies...You can complain about HOAs all you want. But the reason they exist is because people are willing to buy into them. So go ahead and make yourself a victim if that is your thing.