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Hey Pandas, AITA For Ignoring My Swim Coach’s Advice On Tampons And Choosing What Works For Me?
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Hey Pandas, AITA For Ignoring My Swim Coach’s Advice On Tampons And Choosing What Works For Me?

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I (17 F) don’t wear tampons. I find them uncomfortable and unsafe, as my personal opinion

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I’m also on a high school swim team. I had a swim meet the other day, not a very important one, but still mandated to go to.

I have a swimsuit that was designed to be able to swim when you’re on your period, which I was

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Unfortunately my coach (42 M) requires matching swimsuits for the girls on the team, and my special suit isn’t the right color

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My coach proceeded to make me explain why I won’t change, and then told me that as I’m old enough I should be wearing tampons!?
He then didn’t let me participate in the meet and is considering removing me from the team for a month!? AITA?

 

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H Enry
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a team sport and you're refusing to wear the uniform. I don't understand why you didn't make arrengements to have a team uniform that's made to be safe with pad wearers? The couch should have spoken to you with more care but you are in a team sport and are required to wear a uniform. You can't just show up in something different because you didn't plan ahead and hoped to get preferential treatment instead of planning ahead.

Noel Bovae
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well said. If this was gym class (aka something that's forced,) I'd agree with the student 1,000,000%. But the student joined and continued to stay on the swim team knowing the requirements. Due to several medical issues, I only wear tampons for the last few days of my period, and only briefly when I have to leave the house. Knowing this, I would never purposely sign myself up for something that pretty much forced me to wear one for long stretches or for the first few days, even if that meant missing out on something I enjoy. Kid needs to understand that actions have consequences. Don't wear the uniform, don't get to be part of the team. 🤷‍♀️

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Stephanie Did It
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

With all consideration of a woman's right to handle her cycle aside, I'm thinking that the most basic issue here is that the coach doesn't want the pool water contaminated with menstrual fluid. A garment that allows for a pad to be worn is fine, out of the water, but once it is submerged anything the pad has absorbed is released into the water. The issue here isn't matching uniforms; it is keeping the water clean and safe. If you're a woman on a swim team and you're serious about it, then you'll do what is necessary to participate even if that means wearing a tampon. It's a minor inconvenience and won't hurt you.

C.O. Shea
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The health hazard alone says, YTA. Show me there's no way your blood leaks into the pool... guaranteed, ok. Female swimmer here.

firecrackershrimp
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd be worried more about the urinary and fecal contaminants that end up in a pool due to poor hygiene.

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Molly Whuppie
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think there are two issues here. The first is that the male coach should be not demanding a female team member wear tampons. Its none of the coach's business how the swimmer handles their period. The second issue though is the refusal to wear the team uniform. If you are a member of a team and the uniform is mandatory, then you wear the uniform. Unless you have a disability or medical reason that prevents you from doing so. Simply not wanting to use a tampon is not a valid reason for not wearing the uniform. Also there are other things OP could do instead of using a tampon. Menstrual cups, and menstrual discs for example. There are also a ton of ways to delay a period, which is often a viable option for sports people.

iseefractals
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The gender of the coach is irrelevant. The coach is advising one of the members of their team, what they need to do in order to participate in the sport they voluntarily engage in. Pads, are designed to absorb fluid...and they don't discriminate as to what fluid that is. At best, a pad will turn into a waterlogged mess, at worst it will fail to perform its singular task and you'll be left leaking blood into the pool. Which doesn't seem considerate to....anyone else in the pool, does it? Which, again, means the gender of the coach, does not matter. You don't get to gatekeep opinions in which the consequences of someone's actions impact other people. But...if you're going to try to play the gender card, how exactly would it be better for the male coach to advise the minor student to get on birth control so as to delay or stop their period?

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Ru Bee
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can you maybe dye it? I don't think he's right btw and the tampon comment was way over the line, but there has to be some compromise if it's a uniform. You definitely shouldn't be excluded for a month though that's unreasonable. Also it's stupid excluding you for 28 days as soon as you're reinstated.....same problem. Have you tried a menstrual cup. In my teens I much preferred them to tampons and no risk of TTS.

DC
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A month is a stupid timeframe for this punishment for several reasons. "Just as you're allowed back, you do it again!".

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𝐆𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐦-𝐏𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐚
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While your coach was out of line demanding you wear a tampon, you knew the requirements to participate in this extracurricular. If you're unwilling or unable to fulfil those requirements, then you need to leave the team. You can't just request special privileges no one else has. If this were a required class, then reasonable accommodations must be made, but it's not. And it's an extracurricular with required uniforms - you knew that. Why would you even buy the swimsuit before checking with your coach first? This sounds like you tried to go the "better to ask forgiveness than permission" route, and it backfired on you. As well it should have.

firecrackershrimp
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why? Because they have stupid rules made by males to control women's bodies. In this modern day and age why would the swim association have better ideas to help women with problems that are specific to women. Why again? Because makes don't have a clue and still predominantly make the rules.

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FreeTheUnicorn
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA. You could have discussed this with your coach as a possible solution beforehand. You are 17 not 13 and you need to step up and have conversations about your health when you need to.

FreeTheUnicorn
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At our city pool, if there is noticeable blood, they close the pool, drain it and refill. This takes a few days. If there's blood in the locker room the area has to be closed down, bleached, dried and then can get reopened. It's a huge hassle that many pools would be required to by local regulations. Even if you think that's overkill, it is the rule, so thinking the facility can accommodate a period swimsuit, in the pool or when you remove it is selfish. If you don't like tampons or cups and you don't want hormonal help so you don't have periods, maybe this isn't the sport for you. In every sport there's some equipment that's required, and you have to deal with helmets or pads or ski boots or gloves that you don't like, or find a different sport. This is only part time equipment.

firecrackershrimp
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So your talking what the public pools have to do and allow. But they allow those children swimming diapers. They also say children should be potty trained and we know how many parents glide over that rule.

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Elle Lian
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mochi, I think you need to talk with a doctor about the health risks of using a tampon and your concerns, if you haven’t already. This might relieve some of your fears or help you learn more about your options. But, I think you owe your coach an apology. Were they right to say “wear a tampon”? Maybe not, but you are the one who signed up for a team sport and refused to wear the uniform. You let your coach and team down and you disrespected your coach’s authority. Your coach has every right to not allow you to play for a month because your attitude has proven that you aren’t thinking as a team member but as an individual….and, simply put, they have the right because they are the coach, even if we don’t like it. When a person is in a place of authority over us, we can ask for special treatment but we can’t demand it. (This applies to situations in general. I’m not talking about disabilities, religious convictions, etc…)

LakotaWolf (she/her)
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You don't have to wear tampons, although you're extremely unlikely to get TSS if you remove them within an hour or two of insertion. TSS is exceedingly rare (3 cases per 100,000 people who menstruate per year.) Your family may have a "history" of TSS (I'm assuming they're amongst the 3 people out of the 100,000...?) but that does not make you "prone" or "predisposed" to TSS. You are still within your rights to choose to not wear/use tampons, of course, but you're old enough to understand that there are consequences to our choices. If your school/team has a rule where you cannot get into the pool while menstruating if you are not wearing a tampon, then you are NOT allowed to go into the pool if you choose to not use a tampon. Your "period swimsuit" is a myth - it may keep you from leaking OUTSIDE of the water, but there is no fabric in existence that will absorb menstrual blood but somehow keep pool water out - and then the menstrual blood will permeate into the pool. That's unhygienic.

FreeTheUnicorn
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And there have been no reported cases of TSS with menstural cups. Still beat to be sensible, not.leave them in for too long, but very low chance.

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iseefractals
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are part of a TEAM. That means, as such, you are required to wear a uniform. If you don't wear the uniform, you don't get to participate. Your feelings, your personal "situation" doesn't have any impact on that. Everyone else does what is required to follow the rules, if you can't don't cry about the consequences.

Belle Miles
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think this is a psychiatry class study. It's designed to see who is going to call the girl nasty... Blah blah blah. If that were a real kid I would say grow up. Life isn't always going to cater itself to your preferences. Other people have the right to swim in an unpolluted pool. Would you insist on swimming if you had lice? Because that's going to be a problem to other people too even though it wouldn't make a difference in your performance. GROW UP! Ridiculous.

Joy
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ewww...... No offence, but this is a matter of hygiene. Stop being so selfish and think of your teammates.

Sunny Day
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The uniform requirement comes from above the coaches paygrade. "Kids can't participate if not in uniform". OP refused to wear uniform. OP can't swim in meet. If OP can find a suit in the same style and color, she might get approval from judges at meet to wear it instead. Otherwise - use a tampon on swim days. This isn't a "girl punishment", either. Boys have to wear cups to play sports. Boys hate cups. But if they want to play - cup it is.

Gwyn
Community Member
5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not sure how good or sanitary the period swimwear is, I mean, kids wear swim diapers and some pools don't allow them because it still contaminates the water. I can't see how this would work on a heavy period day either. I don't like tampons either but I wear them only if I needed to swim and have my period. Now you can find all different types of tampons and some are more comfortable than others. I'd experiment and see what you can do with different sizes and maybe other products like menstrual cups.

Negatoris Wrecks
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you dont like tampons you could always pick a sport that doesn't require wearing one for participation.

Giraffy Window
Community Member
5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is everyone flipping out like no woman has ever accidentally bled in the pool/changing room from an over saturated tampon or cup during heavy flow? It's absolute bull shorts to come at this girl like the women's showers and change rooms were utterly pristine before she began to menstruate and chose an alternative to internal products. It's also REALLY WEIRD how hateful everyone is being toward this literal child. ****************************** Mochi it's your body, and it was out of line for your coach, regardless of their gender, to callously expect that every kid is going to be willing to use internal menstrual products just because they say you should. If the coach has been working/volunteering in this position long enough, they should have had resources at hand to offer to kids experiencing your particular dilemma with information regarding your options, and be recommending you talk to your GP, OBGYN, or the school nurse. It would benefit you to avoid asking personal opinion sites for advice on this topic from here out, and instead do some research on actual menstrual health support sites. If you can, make an appointment or ask your parents to make an appointment to speak with a gynecologist. In the meantime, it IS a team sport requiring uniforms. Instead of fighting to wear your pink one, could you get a bikini bottom of the same brand in a less obvious colour to wear under your uniform suit? A bath test would be important if your uniform is lighter.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
Community Member
5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

None of us are being hateful towards this "literal child", we're just telling her that her choices have consequences. She doesn't have to wear tampons. No one can force her to. But she can't DEMAND to also be allowed in the pool with other people when she is menstruating, if she does not wish to wear tampons (or a menstrual cup or similar.) She is allowed to make the choice to not use tampons, but she doesn't get to stamp her foot and say "I still get to swim!" if the team/pool rules state that people who menstruate must use a tampon (or similar) while menstruating. The "period swimsuit" is useless unless it's neoprene (basically a sealed wetsuit.) It is unfair and unhygienic to force others to swim in the pool that could be contaminated with OP's menstrual blood and fluids, and it is also unfair to every other person on the swim team that THEY have to wear tampons while on their period, but OP doesn't (if that were allowed.) EDIT to add: It's also not about "accidental" bleeding in the pool; many of us who menstruate have started our period unexpectedly at some point in our lives. OP is doing it deliberately, knowing she is menstruating.

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Anna Ekberg
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand how you think tampons are unsafe? How do you mean? Like you i also find them uncomfortable but if i have to go into water then i use a tampon, it's just for a short while?

jip 879
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a small risk of getting a toxic shock from wearing a tampon. It's very rare, but the consequences are very serious, like amputations for example.

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Mia Black
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to swim for a team myself. Does a swim meet mean a competition? We only had to wear the same swimsuit to the most important competitions (state championships). For other competitions, the club swim cap was completely sufficient because it was different from other teams' and when we were in the water, the cap was the only thing you could see. I have never worn a tampon because I don't like it, and I have actually skipped training and competitions when I couldn't swim because of my period. This is the first time I've heard of a swimsuit that is suitable for this time of the month, and I think it's really cool. People who think that just because a lot of people use tampons that it's no big deal for everyone are ignorant.

Miranda Prince
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They make period underwear now, so I'm guessing the swimsuit is similar. I agree, it's cool. It's too bad OP didn't buy a period swimsuit in the same color as the team suit, though. I would say she's NTA, but there's probably a compromise here that would not require her to use tampons.

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cerinamroth
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you're worried about tampons being dangerous, you could try a menstrual cup instead. Safe, reusable and compatible with swimming and your team swimsuit.

lucy dale
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are on a team sport, and so during meets you need to wear the uniform, even if you are on your period. Its not just about the team looking nice or team requirements, your team could lose points because of you due to meet regulations. (I dont know what youre swimming, but in WIAA swimming, your suit and cap need to either be team, have the american flag, and no logo larger than 2 square inches) Also, you are 17, which is old enough that you should be able to find a work around. You could suck it up for a few hours for the meet, you could use a menstrual cup, its a little gross but you could free bleed in a team suit.

LiuLiu
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Perhaps try a different sport. It sounds unsympathetic but any blood in the water would be awful. I all of my years of swimming I have never heard of a swimsuit made for periods.

Aniviel
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can't you take the pill continuously to stop your periods altogether, while you are part of the swim team?

Alethea Fletcher
Community Member
5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can she wear her uniform swimsuit over her special one? Or are there not bikini style period pants that she could wear underneath? I'm sure there are ways around this that suits the team, and her needs to cope with her period

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. You guys are amazing. Discussing the nuances here. I’m hung up on PERIOD SWIMSUIT. How the….doesn’t seem….logically speaking…what? I couldn’t absorb anything else in the article.

somnomania (she/her, queer)
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i'm astonished at some of the replies here, although mostly at how they're phrased. i didn't switch to tampons until i was nearly 20, but at that point menstrual discs and menstrual cups weren't really a thing yet, either. the coach was correct in that it could contaminate the pool, and also this is a team sport that i assume you signed up for. but also no coach, regardless of gender, should be telling someone what products to use. i feel that perhaps you should weigh how much being on the swim team means to you, and if you're willing to compromise by just wearing something that isn't a pad for the times you're in the pool. NTA, but conditionally.

Hodge Elmwood
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How is the suit "designed to be able to wear when you're on your period"? Does this mean that it's designed to prevent leakage? If so, the school should look into getting the official team suit made that way, even if it would cost more. She would probably not be the only one who'd like to have one.

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firecrackershrimp
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

E everyone saying she's wearing a pad. Maybe I missed something but I would have assumed it is not a pad but an absorbent swimsuit like the make for underwear now. And for those saying contaminants will get in the water, if the garment absorbs it would stop that. Lastly and just my opinion women's competitive swim suits should be made for better coverage like the men's.

KittyGaming
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hey I didn't read this but if you don't like tampons and like swimming here's a great tip, when I want to go swimming on my period I use waterproof pads, they are fabric reusable pads that you can wear in the water, note if you use these wear swim shorts or they might show, they feel just like regular pads and work great

Holly's House
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You're both wrong, him for commenting on your period hygiene choices and banning you for a ridiculous long time, and you for refusing to wear a uniform when you belong to a team. What should happen is he says you can wear what you want, but you will not compete without your team suit. So you'll sit out until you either wear it or figure out another solution for your period.

Holly's House
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well you're both wrong. He cannot tell you have to wear a tampon, or even comment on your period hygiene. And being banned for months is silly. But it IS a team sport for which a uniform is required, you can't just choose to wear whatever you want for competition. I think the solution would be no you don't have to wear a tampon, but without your team suit, you will sit out any competition until your period is over.

DC
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Incontinence bathing suits may be an option here. They're meant to prevent poop leakage only, but blood is - literally - thicker than water, and it may be able to hold it in if you have the chance to, without causing a fuzzy situation, leave the water quickly, in case a larger portion came out at once. There may be panties of that sort as well, sealed towards both directions, and if your uniform bathing suit isn't too revealing ... well, the incontinence stuff truly is pretty generous in cut ... but, is there a chance to wear such a panty underneath? Would that still be comfortable enough, would it hinder your performance in the sport? A girlfriend once examined the issue, because her bowel was fine, and yet, she'd rather opt to wear such than, perhaps visibly even, yet not within her means of control, pee into the water. But, she decided for a one-piece anyway, so anyway, panties were out of the question, pretty much. Is it panties, here, or are panties generally underwear only?

LakotaWolf (she/her)
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a look at the "period swimsuit" that OP linked to (and claims is the one she owns.) It looks like it'd be just fine for lounging around outside of the pool or on the beach, NOT for actually being in the water (as there's no way the absorbent area is waterproof or sealed - so anything that was absorbed into it would leak into the water.) I have period underwear and it's similar - works great to absorb menstrual blood and fluids, but absolutely NOT for use in the water. I wonder if the incontinence swimwear is similar - really only functional for containing waste products, when OUTSIDE of the pool/water, not when in the water. You'd have to be wearing neoprene (basically a wetsuit) in order to prevent urine/feces/menstrual fluid from contaminating the water.

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Hashim Siraj
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NTA but the coach is absolutely in the wrong here. If there is policy related to it the uniform may be understandable but the lack of consideration is at worst a sexual discrimination case and at best an ignorant coach who can’t be bothered to ask anyone above his pay grade.

H Enry
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a team sport and you're refusing to wear the uniform. I don't understand why you didn't make arrengements to have a team uniform that's made to be safe with pad wearers? The couch should have spoken to you with more care but you are in a team sport and are required to wear a uniform. You can't just show up in something different because you didn't plan ahead and hoped to get preferential treatment instead of planning ahead.

Noel Bovae
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well said. If this was gym class (aka something that's forced,) I'd agree with the student 1,000,000%. But the student joined and continued to stay on the swim team knowing the requirements. Due to several medical issues, I only wear tampons for the last few days of my period, and only briefly when I have to leave the house. Knowing this, I would never purposely sign myself up for something that pretty much forced me to wear one for long stretches or for the first few days, even if that meant missing out on something I enjoy. Kid needs to understand that actions have consequences. Don't wear the uniform, don't get to be part of the team. 🤷‍♀️

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Stephanie Did It
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

With all consideration of a woman's right to handle her cycle aside, I'm thinking that the most basic issue here is that the coach doesn't want the pool water contaminated with menstrual fluid. A garment that allows for a pad to be worn is fine, out of the water, but once it is submerged anything the pad has absorbed is released into the water. The issue here isn't matching uniforms; it is keeping the water clean and safe. If you're a woman on a swim team and you're serious about it, then you'll do what is necessary to participate even if that means wearing a tampon. It's a minor inconvenience and won't hurt you.

C.O. Shea
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The health hazard alone says, YTA. Show me there's no way your blood leaks into the pool... guaranteed, ok. Female swimmer here.

firecrackershrimp
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd be worried more about the urinary and fecal contaminants that end up in a pool due to poor hygiene.

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Molly Whuppie
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think there are two issues here. The first is that the male coach should be not demanding a female team member wear tampons. Its none of the coach's business how the swimmer handles their period. The second issue though is the refusal to wear the team uniform. If you are a member of a team and the uniform is mandatory, then you wear the uniform. Unless you have a disability or medical reason that prevents you from doing so. Simply not wanting to use a tampon is not a valid reason for not wearing the uniform. Also there are other things OP could do instead of using a tampon. Menstrual cups, and menstrual discs for example. There are also a ton of ways to delay a period, which is often a viable option for sports people.

iseefractals
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The gender of the coach is irrelevant. The coach is advising one of the members of their team, what they need to do in order to participate in the sport they voluntarily engage in. Pads, are designed to absorb fluid...and they don't discriminate as to what fluid that is. At best, a pad will turn into a waterlogged mess, at worst it will fail to perform its singular task and you'll be left leaking blood into the pool. Which doesn't seem considerate to....anyone else in the pool, does it? Which, again, means the gender of the coach, does not matter. You don't get to gatekeep opinions in which the consequences of someone's actions impact other people. But...if you're going to try to play the gender card, how exactly would it be better for the male coach to advise the minor student to get on birth control so as to delay or stop their period?

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Ru Bee
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can you maybe dye it? I don't think he's right btw and the tampon comment was way over the line, but there has to be some compromise if it's a uniform. You definitely shouldn't be excluded for a month though that's unreasonable. Also it's stupid excluding you for 28 days as soon as you're reinstated.....same problem. Have you tried a menstrual cup. In my teens I much preferred them to tampons and no risk of TTS.

DC
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A month is a stupid timeframe for this punishment for several reasons. "Just as you're allowed back, you do it again!".

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𝐆𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐦-𝐏𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐚
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While your coach was out of line demanding you wear a tampon, you knew the requirements to participate in this extracurricular. If you're unwilling or unable to fulfil those requirements, then you need to leave the team. You can't just request special privileges no one else has. If this were a required class, then reasonable accommodations must be made, but it's not. And it's an extracurricular with required uniforms - you knew that. Why would you even buy the swimsuit before checking with your coach first? This sounds like you tried to go the "better to ask forgiveness than permission" route, and it backfired on you. As well it should have.

firecrackershrimp
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why? Because they have stupid rules made by males to control women's bodies. In this modern day and age why would the swim association have better ideas to help women with problems that are specific to women. Why again? Because makes don't have a clue and still predominantly make the rules.

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FreeTheUnicorn
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA. You could have discussed this with your coach as a possible solution beforehand. You are 17 not 13 and you need to step up and have conversations about your health when you need to.

FreeTheUnicorn
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At our city pool, if there is noticeable blood, they close the pool, drain it and refill. This takes a few days. If there's blood in the locker room the area has to be closed down, bleached, dried and then can get reopened. It's a huge hassle that many pools would be required to by local regulations. Even if you think that's overkill, it is the rule, so thinking the facility can accommodate a period swimsuit, in the pool or when you remove it is selfish. If you don't like tampons or cups and you don't want hormonal help so you don't have periods, maybe this isn't the sport for you. In every sport there's some equipment that's required, and you have to deal with helmets or pads or ski boots or gloves that you don't like, or find a different sport. This is only part time equipment.

firecrackershrimp
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So your talking what the public pools have to do and allow. But they allow those children swimming diapers. They also say children should be potty trained and we know how many parents glide over that rule.

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Elle Lian
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mochi, I think you need to talk with a doctor about the health risks of using a tampon and your concerns, if you haven’t already. This might relieve some of your fears or help you learn more about your options. But, I think you owe your coach an apology. Were they right to say “wear a tampon”? Maybe not, but you are the one who signed up for a team sport and refused to wear the uniform. You let your coach and team down and you disrespected your coach’s authority. Your coach has every right to not allow you to play for a month because your attitude has proven that you aren’t thinking as a team member but as an individual….and, simply put, they have the right because they are the coach, even if we don’t like it. When a person is in a place of authority over us, we can ask for special treatment but we can’t demand it. (This applies to situations in general. I’m not talking about disabilities, religious convictions, etc…)

LakotaWolf (she/her)
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You don't have to wear tampons, although you're extremely unlikely to get TSS if you remove them within an hour or two of insertion. TSS is exceedingly rare (3 cases per 100,000 people who menstruate per year.) Your family may have a "history" of TSS (I'm assuming they're amongst the 3 people out of the 100,000...?) but that does not make you "prone" or "predisposed" to TSS. You are still within your rights to choose to not wear/use tampons, of course, but you're old enough to understand that there are consequences to our choices. If your school/team has a rule where you cannot get into the pool while menstruating if you are not wearing a tampon, then you are NOT allowed to go into the pool if you choose to not use a tampon. Your "period swimsuit" is a myth - it may keep you from leaking OUTSIDE of the water, but there is no fabric in existence that will absorb menstrual blood but somehow keep pool water out - and then the menstrual blood will permeate into the pool. That's unhygienic.

FreeTheUnicorn
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And there have been no reported cases of TSS with menstural cups. Still beat to be sensible, not.leave them in for too long, but very low chance.

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iseefractals
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are part of a TEAM. That means, as such, you are required to wear a uniform. If you don't wear the uniform, you don't get to participate. Your feelings, your personal "situation" doesn't have any impact on that. Everyone else does what is required to follow the rules, if you can't don't cry about the consequences.

Belle Miles
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think this is a psychiatry class study. It's designed to see who is going to call the girl nasty... Blah blah blah. If that were a real kid I would say grow up. Life isn't always going to cater itself to your preferences. Other people have the right to swim in an unpolluted pool. Would you insist on swimming if you had lice? Because that's going to be a problem to other people too even though it wouldn't make a difference in your performance. GROW UP! Ridiculous.

Joy
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ewww...... No offence, but this is a matter of hygiene. Stop being so selfish and think of your teammates.

Sunny Day
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The uniform requirement comes from above the coaches paygrade. "Kids can't participate if not in uniform". OP refused to wear uniform. OP can't swim in meet. If OP can find a suit in the same style and color, she might get approval from judges at meet to wear it instead. Otherwise - use a tampon on swim days. This isn't a "girl punishment", either. Boys have to wear cups to play sports. Boys hate cups. But if they want to play - cup it is.

Gwyn
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not sure how good or sanitary the period swimwear is, I mean, kids wear swim diapers and some pools don't allow them because it still contaminates the water. I can't see how this would work on a heavy period day either. I don't like tampons either but I wear them only if I needed to swim and have my period. Now you can find all different types of tampons and some are more comfortable than others. I'd experiment and see what you can do with different sizes and maybe other products like menstrual cups.

Negatoris Wrecks
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you dont like tampons you could always pick a sport that doesn't require wearing one for participation.

Giraffy Window
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is everyone flipping out like no woman has ever accidentally bled in the pool/changing room from an over saturated tampon or cup during heavy flow? It's absolute bull shorts to come at this girl like the women's showers and change rooms were utterly pristine before she began to menstruate and chose an alternative to internal products. It's also REALLY WEIRD how hateful everyone is being toward this literal child. ****************************** Mochi it's your body, and it was out of line for your coach, regardless of their gender, to callously expect that every kid is going to be willing to use internal menstrual products just because they say you should. If the coach has been working/volunteering in this position long enough, they should have had resources at hand to offer to kids experiencing your particular dilemma with information regarding your options, and be recommending you talk to your GP, OBGYN, or the school nurse. It would benefit you to avoid asking personal opinion sites for advice on this topic from here out, and instead do some research on actual menstrual health support sites. If you can, make an appointment or ask your parents to make an appointment to speak with a gynecologist. In the meantime, it IS a team sport requiring uniforms. Instead of fighting to wear your pink one, could you get a bikini bottom of the same brand in a less obvious colour to wear under your uniform suit? A bath test would be important if your uniform is lighter.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

None of us are being hateful towards this "literal child", we're just telling her that her choices have consequences. She doesn't have to wear tampons. No one can force her to. But she can't DEMAND to also be allowed in the pool with other people when she is menstruating, if she does not wish to wear tampons (or a menstrual cup or similar.) She is allowed to make the choice to not use tampons, but she doesn't get to stamp her foot and say "I still get to swim!" if the team/pool rules state that people who menstruate must use a tampon (or similar) while menstruating. The "period swimsuit" is useless unless it's neoprene (basically a sealed wetsuit.) It is unfair and unhygienic to force others to swim in the pool that could be contaminated with OP's menstrual blood and fluids, and it is also unfair to every other person on the swim team that THEY have to wear tampons while on their period, but OP doesn't (if that were allowed.) EDIT to add: It's also not about "accidental" bleeding in the pool; many of us who menstruate have started our period unexpectedly at some point in our lives. OP is doing it deliberately, knowing she is menstruating.

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Anna Ekberg
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand how you think tampons are unsafe? How do you mean? Like you i also find them uncomfortable but if i have to go into water then i use a tampon, it's just for a short while?

jip 879
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a small risk of getting a toxic shock from wearing a tampon. It's very rare, but the consequences are very serious, like amputations for example.

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Mia Black
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to swim for a team myself. Does a swim meet mean a competition? We only had to wear the same swimsuit to the most important competitions (state championships). For other competitions, the club swim cap was completely sufficient because it was different from other teams' and when we were in the water, the cap was the only thing you could see. I have never worn a tampon because I don't like it, and I have actually skipped training and competitions when I couldn't swim because of my period. This is the first time I've heard of a swimsuit that is suitable for this time of the month, and I think it's really cool. People who think that just because a lot of people use tampons that it's no big deal for everyone are ignorant.

Miranda Prince
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They make period underwear now, so I'm guessing the swimsuit is similar. I agree, it's cool. It's too bad OP didn't buy a period swimsuit in the same color as the team suit, though. I would say she's NTA, but there's probably a compromise here that would not require her to use tampons.

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cerinamroth
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you're worried about tampons being dangerous, you could try a menstrual cup instead. Safe, reusable and compatible with swimming and your team swimsuit.

lucy dale
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are on a team sport, and so during meets you need to wear the uniform, even if you are on your period. Its not just about the team looking nice or team requirements, your team could lose points because of you due to meet regulations. (I dont know what youre swimming, but in WIAA swimming, your suit and cap need to either be team, have the american flag, and no logo larger than 2 square inches) Also, you are 17, which is old enough that you should be able to find a work around. You could suck it up for a few hours for the meet, you could use a menstrual cup, its a little gross but you could free bleed in a team suit.

LiuLiu
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Perhaps try a different sport. It sounds unsympathetic but any blood in the water would be awful. I all of my years of swimming I have never heard of a swimsuit made for periods.

Aniviel
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can't you take the pill continuously to stop your periods altogether, while you are part of the swim team?

Alethea Fletcher
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can she wear her uniform swimsuit over her special one? Or are there not bikini style period pants that she could wear underneath? I'm sure there are ways around this that suits the team, and her needs to cope with her period

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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. You guys are amazing. Discussing the nuances here. I’m hung up on PERIOD SWIMSUIT. How the….doesn’t seem….logically speaking…what? I couldn’t absorb anything else in the article.

somnomania (she/her, queer)
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i'm astonished at some of the replies here, although mostly at how they're phrased. i didn't switch to tampons until i was nearly 20, but at that point menstrual discs and menstrual cups weren't really a thing yet, either. the coach was correct in that it could contaminate the pool, and also this is a team sport that i assume you signed up for. but also no coach, regardless of gender, should be telling someone what products to use. i feel that perhaps you should weigh how much being on the swim team means to you, and if you're willing to compromise by just wearing something that isn't a pad for the times you're in the pool. NTA, but conditionally.

Hodge Elmwood
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How is the suit "designed to be able to wear when you're on your period"? Does this mean that it's designed to prevent leakage? If so, the school should look into getting the official team suit made that way, even if it would cost more. She would probably not be the only one who'd like to have one.

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firecrackershrimp
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

E everyone saying she's wearing a pad. Maybe I missed something but I would have assumed it is not a pad but an absorbent swimsuit like the make for underwear now. And for those saying contaminants will get in the water, if the garment absorbs it would stop that. Lastly and just my opinion women's competitive swim suits should be made for better coverage like the men's.

KittyGaming
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hey I didn't read this but if you don't like tampons and like swimming here's a great tip, when I want to go swimming on my period I use waterproof pads, they are fabric reusable pads that you can wear in the water, note if you use these wear swim shorts or they might show, they feel just like regular pads and work great

Holly's House
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You're both wrong, him for commenting on your period hygiene choices and banning you for a ridiculous long time, and you for refusing to wear a uniform when you belong to a team. What should happen is he says you can wear what you want, but you will not compete without your team suit. So you'll sit out until you either wear it or figure out another solution for your period.

Holly's House
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well you're both wrong. He cannot tell you have to wear a tampon, or even comment on your period hygiene. And being banned for months is silly. But it IS a team sport for which a uniform is required, you can't just choose to wear whatever you want for competition. I think the solution would be no you don't have to wear a tampon, but without your team suit, you will sit out any competition until your period is over.

DC
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Incontinence bathing suits may be an option here. They're meant to prevent poop leakage only, but blood is - literally - thicker than water, and it may be able to hold it in if you have the chance to, without causing a fuzzy situation, leave the water quickly, in case a larger portion came out at once. There may be panties of that sort as well, sealed towards both directions, and if your uniform bathing suit isn't too revealing ... well, the incontinence stuff truly is pretty generous in cut ... but, is there a chance to wear such a panty underneath? Would that still be comfortable enough, would it hinder your performance in the sport? A girlfriend once examined the issue, because her bowel was fine, and yet, she'd rather opt to wear such than, perhaps visibly even, yet not within her means of control, pee into the water. But, she decided for a one-piece anyway, so anyway, panties were out of the question, pretty much. Is it panties, here, or are panties generally underwear only?

LakotaWolf (she/her)
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5 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a look at the "period swimsuit" that OP linked to (and claims is the one she owns.) It looks like it'd be just fine for lounging around outside of the pool or on the beach, NOT for actually being in the water (as there's no way the absorbent area is waterproof or sealed - so anything that was absorbed into it would leak into the water.) I have period underwear and it's similar - works great to absorb menstrual blood and fluids, but absolutely NOT for use in the water. I wonder if the incontinence swimwear is similar - really only functional for containing waste products, when OUTSIDE of the pool/water, not when in the water. You'd have to be wearing neoprene (basically a wetsuit) in order to prevent urine/feces/menstrual fluid from contaminating the water.

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Hashim Siraj
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NTA but the coach is absolutely in the wrong here. If there is policy related to it the uniform may be understandable but the lack of consideration is at worst a sexual discrimination case and at best an ignorant coach who can’t be bothered to ask anyone above his pay grade.

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