"At some point doors start closing and some of those things you thought you’d do “someday” are no longer an option."

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Wildlife_King said:
"You never finish cleaning your kitchen."

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"I recently saw where someone referred to it as "resetting the kitchen" instead of cleaning, and that's helped me a little."

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I wish there was a reset button I could press instead of spending 22 hours a day doing it myself.

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moto_x_crash said:
"Very few people actually know what they're doing."

flyingninja129 replied:
"Actually it’s pretty encouraging, because I too have no idea what I’m doing."

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"My career is IT, and the field is filled with jokes about people googling answers and just turning it off and on again. However also horrifically prevalent in all the chat rooms and groups about career IT people is the constant sense of Imposter Syndrome. The ever-prevalent feeling that any second someone is going to discover that you don't actually know what you are doing (despite regular evidence to the contrary). Such a high percentage appear to suffer from this, probably because there is so much to know in the field. Just because you are 'good at IT' doesn't necessarily mean you are an expert at programming, or network engineering, or hardware repair or excel."

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I felt this. I feel like such a phony and I've been doing this for 20yrs.

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"Nothing is truly "free". Everything either costs time or money."

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Or other people are paying for it. When a country says "free healthcare" or "free schooling" for certain people, it means tax payers are subsidizing you. It's not free. The tax base of that country is paying the price.

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whatwoulddiggydo said:
"That your happiness needs to come from you. You can’t depend on others for it. If you’re going to find joy, you need to find it in yourself every day. Your choice."

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"Change your way of thinking. You can be happy now without doing anything physically different. Hold gratitude for the things that make you feel happy and warm, whether your family, friends, pets, bed, blankets, coffee, wine, whiskey, playlist, car, hobby, book, nature, exercise, whatever. Embrace and be thankful that you have it, and that you can smile from it. Happiness is an ongoing attitude, it isn't a destination."

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"The serotonin doesn't floweth as easy in adulthood."

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Cymbalta/DULOXETINE.... can help...not being facetious, just honest

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"You'll be more exhausted than before."

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"Not everyone thinks like you."

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"Most things about life suck. Honestly. Bills, work, taxes, maintaining a car, getting nowhere, fear of poverty... screw it all."

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HopelessTrousers said:
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StoicEnglishMajor replied:
"Existing is not simple, it's probably the most complicated thing you'll ever experience."

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samwoo2go replied:
"You can though. You don’t have to file tax returns if you make under the min amount required to pay taxes and there is nothing stopping you from just withdrawing from society and live off of BLM land somewhere. I’m sure there are people out there doing exactly that right now. Someone told me once that there are only 3 kinds of people in Alaska, those who don’t like people, running away from something, or both. Seems to be top destination for disappearing from society."

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You COULD try to live away from society, but people are social creatures. Even reclusive people rely on society if it's from a distance, or some companion creature to talk to. 100% isolation can make people lose their minds and hallucinate. Cast Away is a somewhat good example.

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"Life is much more expensive once you got to pay for s**t."

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I remember being a teen and thinking "why would you ever live in a rental, it's just wasted money". Then I was in my early 20s and wanted to be independent, and of course you can't just get a mortgage, so renting it is.

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"You don't get wasted time back."

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What exactly is "wasted time"? There are people who volunteer to do things they don't want to be doing then complain they aren't getting that time back when they just could've said no thanks. If you're idling, relaxing doing something that's not heavily productive but something you enjoy, that's not "wasted time". It's just allowing yourself to have a moment free of focusing on responsibilities. That's ok.

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thumbwarvictory said:
"At some point, everything you do, you'll do it for the last time, but you won't even know it."

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"I think about this a lot with final interactions/touches/conversations with people, how you never know when it’s the last time. It’s really sad."

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"Growing up watching movies and hearing stories and seeing the good things in life only as a kid, but growing up and realizing that quality of life is actually really sh***y for people, and being an adult is hard. Everyone wishes life was a simple as being a kid again."

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PieBarm69 said:
"The older you get, the faster time appears to pass by. A year when you’re 10 is a tenth of your whole life, a year when you’re 40 is much less significant."

imbuzzedatm replied:
"Especially if you have kids. The days get longer and the years seem shorter."

BOSH09 replied:
"School weeks are forever and the weekend is a blink. I hate it. I’m tired."

the_stoned_ranger also replied:
"Having children permanently warped my perception of time. You won’t notice much of a change in appearance when catching up with an old friend after a year or two, but kids development and change at such an exponential rate that it blows my f***ing mind. Then you get into the day-to-day grind of work, cooking/cleanup from dinner, baths, bedtime, and once the kids are asleep trying to catch up on laundry or in general tidying up. When your days are full they go fast. When I worked as a line-cook I’d look up and 7 hours had flown in by. Having kids is kind of like that. Wouldn’t change it though. There is a reason people say, “Cherish it — it goes so fast.” It really does. My days are full and crazy, but I’d rather them be that way than empty and lonely."

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I noticed this and it scared me. Still does. I'm scared my whole life is going to pass by and I'll be on my deathbed before I know it. It's such a fear I now slow down and focus on enjoying, or taking in the events of the day, rather than just trying to get through them, and appreciating each day rather than looking forward to the weekend, which is just a Friday evening and 2 days out of 7 days a week. The more I thought about it, the more miserable it seemed to live like that. Time has started to seem slower. I am tired often but then I'll go to bed really early if I have to. F**k trying to force productivity. Save that for work. I'm not getting paid on my own time. At least not enough to make it worth suffering.

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lilapplesaucy said:
"There aren’t any really safety nets for people with mental illness and disabilities and if you don’t have a support system to lean on you’re pretty much f***ed. I’m bipolar and ADHD and have no healthcare or family that can help me. I live alone and most days can’t even get out of bed. I’m lucky to have found a job that I can handle but it’s not consistent work and I often have to let bills lapse or go without things. The older I get, the harder it gets because I’m supposed to have more security when increasingly I have less and less. If I were hospitalized at any point, I’d likely lose my apartment and my cat. There’s not much I can do except keep trying to get on Medicaid so I can get back on meds and back into therapy. When I was a kid I thought I’d get treatment and then be able to live somewhat normally while managing my meds. My experience hasn’t been anything close to that and as a result, has led to me being a lot of traumatizing and toxic situations. It’s relatively impressive I’m not addicted to any hard drugs at this point. But yeah, I’ll just read Enders's game and keep trying really hard."

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"I have a family member who is a rapid cycler- I wish no one had to deal with such issues, and there absolutely should be support and more options than figure out how to take care of it or be hospitalized. Not that does anything for you, but If I lived near you I would absolutely take care of your cat for you if that ever happened. With my family member animals are a big part of keeping him grounded/ reminding him to here is a reason to keep taking care of himself when he wants to give in to the depression (and when he’s manic he shops, so they get a lot of treats."

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I'm rapid cycling, bipolar, OCD, and ADHD. There are days I just want to stay in bed and hum the alphabet song while eating an entire container of vanilla ice cream with an iced tea spoon. So I GET you. Cats help. I toyed with having two, as the one I have prefers my son; but I don't know if I could manage being responsible for three lives other than my own. Hang in there. Can't say it will get better, but my prayers are for it to not get worse.

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goatsandwich43 said:
"That old age isn’t a sudden drop off of a cliff, it's a constant process that you will never be able to stop, you might not even notice it’s happening until you look back at old photos of yourself."

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"Or all the clothes you're no longer willing to wear. I have a bunch of skirts and dresses that seem a bit too short for my tastes and inappropriate for my age now."

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"My BF and I have been together for about 12 years and we're in our early 40s. 2 nights ago I looked across the table at him and for the first time he looked middle-aged to me. Not saying that I didn't notice him getting older over the years and I certainly look my age, but it just really hit me that night."

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When I look back at my 20s self I look much younger than a 20s something. When I was in Grade 9, me and the rest of the class saw the Grade 7s as these little kids. We were like, "were we this short and young looking?"

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"That life is mostly pointless."

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Well...yes and no. You find things that you enjoy, you seek out people who make you happy, you try to help others--even if it's just in small ways. To paraphrase Dickinson: if you lessen the suffering of one creature, then your life is not in vain.

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"For 99.99% of us, within about 3 generations, no one will remember you and no one will care to remember you."

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"I don't quite know why but I find this comforting."

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"I think it's because all the mistakes you make will sort of be erased. If nothing matters, then all the bad stuff doesn't matter, and that's comforting when your life is mostly bad stuff."

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"My father wasn’t hard on me because he wanted the best for me; he was hard on me because he saw me as a reflection of his self-worth."

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Redditor said:
"Work until you’re too old to enjoy life. What kind of bulls*** is that?"

Rebel-Yellow replied:
"I type out of my a** because I really have no idea but the majority of us in the workforce now will never really get the opportunity to retire and those accounts we're paying into just ensure even more comfort to those already guarenteed a cushy life. People get mad when I "joke" about never getting to retire so why the f*** care about putting any and all spare money into an account for later. I make highly specialized meds for fringe case child cancer patients, yet I barely break 16 an hour. The idea of 'retirement' is hilarious and I can only hope I'll be long dead by the time it's projected 'retirement' could happen. I daydream about winning the lottery and either throwing huge chunks of it at paying off local student debt or trying to do things that might make living accessible. 850+ for the baseline 1BR apartment that's probably infested with problems is ridiculous, what the f**k kind of income can support that on just base rent alone?"

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"As much as we hated school, we should have tried taking it seriously and learning all the subjects to the best of our ability and, if possible, requested extra study or programs, learning later on life is hard as there are less programs available to brush up or become more skilled, and most certainly, these programs can be moderately expensive to very expensive as there's very few programs that are government funded that will help much, and if there are some, they are usually very busy and have wait times. So, any kids reading this, even if you hate school, grab all the subjects by the balls and milk them and do the best you can."

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When I was a kid it felt like such a forced thing every kid is pushed into. Kids don't even get a say or a chance to really explore what they're interested. Well, they can but their interests are treated like hobbies and discouraged to dive deep into them, as the teachers and parents want kids to focus on the areas they suck at.

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sharpy_626 said:
"That school wasn't as bad as you thought it was. So much you could do as a kid just isn't that possible as an adult."

olearygreen replied:
"I disagree with this. Could have done 6 years of school in 4. High school is a giant waste of time. Even more so looking back than I already thought it was going through it. School was not bad but such a giant waste of time."

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If I could have a do-over I would participate in extracurricular sports and other school programs. The only time I wasn't bullied so much was during intramurals. I sorta wished I took music over art. The music class was too focused on playing instruments than pestering me on what I was doing. The assignments are straightforward and not much needed of help from the teacher. It wasn't an area I was known as being really good at, which would mean i wouldn't have had that assumed expectation I can do everything superbly.

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"We can't avoid bills."

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endofthedamnrope said:
"Ultimately, you’re on your own. Sure people might love and care for you but when it comes down to it, it’s just you."

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"Agreed, I realized this at the age of 39, with the sole responsibility of two kids."

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"I realized this now during Corona. I also lately became anxious about my mother dying from high blood pressure, if I wouldn't have her, there wouldn't be another one, who unconditionally supports and loves me. We are so far removed from this big family of a tribe, humans used to have, which makes me so sad because I always wanted something like that."

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polzkaa said:
"Your paychecks are always disappointing."

Redditor replied:
"And they’re spent too quickly."

KotexAvenger also replied:
"The week is long and the check is short, that's for damn sure."

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User No 1 said:
"Accepting yourself for wanting a partner. I feel like in this day in age, we glorify independency. But supreme independence isn’t ideal, at least for me. Of course, it’s good to do certain things on your own but having a partner by your side is great also."

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"I feel it’s the opposite. I find that most people are obsessive about needing to find love and be with someone. I think it’s important to learn to be okay being alone with yourself before you enter into a relationship so it doesn’t create a toxic codependent dynamic."

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"I'm in your lane. Similarly, I don't want to be stuck/trapped with someone who I don't enjoy being around just because we decided to move in together (and breaking up/moving out is HARD), yikes. Then what if they betray you in some awful way? Being single is pretty easy-peasy really."

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Single. Ok with it. And no, I don't have a lot of friends I go out with. I'm talking true solitude, going out by myself. Eating out alone. Not on my phone, no FB no IG, just being in that moment. It's peace.

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"The adults aren’t any brighter than children, things make less sense in the “adult world”."

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The adult world never makes any sense to me. Many folks are stubbornly conforming to their norms without compromising even if they might hurt others I do understand people have their own thoughts and opinions but sometimes isn't it better to care more about others' feelings

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"The world will most likely never improve."

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This one was a bitter pill for my generation. 1975: “Vietnam was our longest war, fought for a lie, and lost.” 2003: “Hold my beer!”

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"You have fewer friends in adulthood. Also, when you're at school or university, pretty much everyone is the same age as you so you have lots in common. When you work in an office when you're older there's a good chance that everyone will be different ages and few will have the same things in common."

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"Everyone you’ve ever met will die someday."

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"That a lot of what you are told is the point of life in the US is a lie. It is there to make you a reliable workforce for the wealth."

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"Maturity has nothing to do with your actually age, and you'll start to notice many of the adults you looked up to are just children who are pretending. To me it felt like losing some connection that I felt was always understood until... I grew up more, and now I see all those connections were just kinda... faked/misunderstandings or something. It's hard to describe kinda."

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Jesmer8490 said:
"That there are very few people that truly care about you as a person."

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"Christ this is so depressing. I think this is made worse by how much our society has expanded. In small groups everyone has a role to play and the well-being of one member is important to everyone else because it directly impacts the whole group. Once you get into populations in the thousands, it’s impossible to care about everyone and each person is more expendable/replaceable. It’s easy to become invisible and just coast through life only being valued for the work you can do, or when people need something from you, and forgotten the instant you’re no longer useful."

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AverageSizeWayne replied:
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I get this at times. I've been accused of stealing, using fake $20 bills, not taking care of my daughter, not working, being on welfare (especially when my kid was a kid), being a racist, all falsely accused for unknown reasons other than pre-conceived assumptions based on whatever it is they saw. It pisses me off to end.

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"That “Happily ever after” is a complete crock of s***."

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paletapt said:
"Everything seems to be too expensive when we have to work for it."

Raskolnikovo replied:
"This depends on many things. One factor is how much money you received from your parents growing up. The other is how high the purchase power in your country is. I was raised in Colombia by very restrictive parents (in terms of money), then I moved to Germany and started working minimum wage and I feel I'm rich lol."

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OptimalBeans said:
"That you're going to college to work at a job that cares absolutely nothing about you or your family. Meaning that if you're a good employee it means nothing. You have to switch from job to job if you ever want to make more money which is the dumbest thing in my opinion. If you're a good employee and do your job right you should get raises."

UncleSub replied:
"I dunno, I worked at a hotel, went from server to manager and could've probably gone up after that. left for another job, went from assistant to a real position (currently in training but still a new title and a huge raise) will then be a fully trained employee with a raise again. And if I do well I can most likely become a manager there too. If not, then yeah I can move... but yes, I work weekends and extra hours all the time because I want to move up. I get it, you can move higher and faster by switching jobs, it is proven I am not saying it is not. Just saying it is not dead, at a lot of jobs if you do amazingly well you will move up. However yes, at some, you won't move up no matter how well you do... I agree with that."

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"It depends where you work. When you work for a company like I do (IT) with 150,000 employees that’s stationed in France and outsources most of its employees it’s dif. If you work for a hotel that is basically run by the staff there it’s a little different. Try working for a multinational corporation and tell me you can move up easily and raises are guaranteed."

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I don't know how people job hop and get positions that make more. I went from one entry position at a company then tried finding a job with a higher position. I didn't pass the interview. Found another job but it's also an entry position and starting at min. wage. It doesn't always matter what you were doing at your last job, how much you were getting paid. The next employer just wants a position filled by someone they deemed qualified and pay you how much they want to pay you. Raises have to be earned through effort, growth in performance and staying in my experience.

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"You will never find more than 1, maybe 2, people who actually give a s*** about you or your well-being."

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"There is no point, and you are not special."

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Special doesn't necessarily mean better than others. You are special, to yourself, your family, life in general, but you are not better than anyone else. The way this is phrased makes it seem like there is no reason for you to live. The reason is that you are alive and you can try to be the best, most you person you can be, but don't think that puts you above anyone else, because you everyone is doing the same.

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DM-Hollens-117 said:
"Even parents with the best intentions will still f**k you up."

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"My parent's "love" and "care" was disguised as verbal and emotional abuse to get me to comply with how they wanted life to be like. If I didn't work with it, I would have things taken away (including pets,) and would have to work for their love and attention. It has sadly affected me as an adult, though I have worked through it and now acknowledge how it affects me (I was a huge people pleaser for a long time.) The sad part about all of it is, that my parents still think they did the right thing and that it was "tough love" though looking back it was mostly arbitrary. Like, who the f**k rehomes a kid's pet because they aren't interested in playing an instrument?"

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Verbal and mental manipulative abuse is not an act of care and love. It's an excuse to make you think you need to pardon their s****y parenting. Just because someone birthed you doesn't mean they think of you as an individual and hold a strong bond and sense of deep love for you as an individual. Some parents see their newborn babies as blank humans they can bring up to be whom the parents want them to be.

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"Seconds are constantly ticking away and we’re all dying as we speak. Also the world keeps spinning and people keep growing. People you once knew and loved grow without you. It’s a tough pill to swallow."

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COVID-69420bbq said:
"Life in general is an endless version of high school, it's just that people's bodies continue to age and the setting changes."

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"Really? I work in a school nowadays but other than that I don't see the similarities. Haven't been bullied at work. I'm not trying to be cool or whatever to fit in. People don't really care what you do in general as long that their work doesn't suffer from it(colleagues). Have to pay taxes. Have to pay bills. It just day in day out the same basically. I remember high school as a much more carefree period tbh. But with a lot more social drama..."

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I have to agree with the second statement.

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"Adult life is literally just working 9-5, eating, sleeping, showering, and fu***ng. Everyone is literally s** crazed as adults, I didn't realize it until I was like 25."

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I guess I'm not everyone? Many things I'd rather do than boinking.

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"Time is relative and to us. The last decades of our life, although a longer duration will speed by faster than our youth. As time runs out it also speeds up until you realize at the end that you should of done more and now its too late."

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"That for better or for worse life goes on. Something good happened today? Great, today ends and tomorrow comes. Something terrible happened today? That sucks, same thing. Moments good and bad are fleeting, nothing ACTUALLY matters. The sun will rise tomorrow with or without you. Your loved ones may remember you but when they are gone you will Be lost to the sands of time."

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I had a mental breakdown at work, an anxiety attack and was moving faster than it was safe. But I also tend to get hustled to tend to my co-workers than others. It gets to me. Other things were getting to me, too. I felt everything build up. My supervisor reassigned me to a different task for a bit. I felt like I was going to really get it. Always feel like this is it. I'm getting fired. Takes a while for me to shift my thinking away from what caused anxiety inducing thoughts and getting away from the situation does help, but I still worry it's causing me to be a liability. I'm still employed and had a good review, so I must be doing things right. Mental breakdowns are not a regular occurance at least.

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"Every person you will ever know only likes you for what you can give them. Money, food, love, a place to stay, conversation, a car... what it is doesn't matter, but you have to give them something. You are the same way with everyone you will ever meet."

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Having a keen sense of who's just around to get something out of you helps weed them out and provides some insight on what you can do to not be the same way.

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"I'm only 18 and I was at a family diner the other day for my grandpa's 70th birthday. At this diner was also my little cousin who's 2 years old. And a couple of times through the whole night I realized how happy and excited she was about anything and everything only to notice the adults just half-heartedly giving a smile at these things including myself. Like in many aspects, I'm still a kid and I've already lost the ability to feel like that it's kinda sad tbh. Like many people are saying again still only 18 but just how incompetent people are. I'm a first-year uni student in chemical and computer engineering and a lot of my classmates are impossible to work with or just have no clue what's going on. It makes me worry for the future."

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Is becoming dead inside a requirement for growing up or something??

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"Life is punishment, it's designed to hurt you as much as possible for as long as possible."

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I call B.S. You can find joy in tiny things and have a generally decent life---if you set realistic expectations and don't expect the world to fall at your feet, you can be pretty content.

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mrsguyliner said:
"You didn't ask to be born and now you're forced to work for the rest of your life with no guarantee you'll be safe, secure or happy."

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"If I had the financial security in making a baby I would but if I know I don’t have the funds for it I would be f***ing f***ed. I wish my parents would have thought about that but I guess I learned don’t make a baby when ur broke as s*** & can’t make it live a comfortable life. Most of my friends are getting to that age where they have babies. Like I feel being 20 years you need to have fun and enjoy the moments to yourself you are only in your 20s for a bit don’t f*** yourself over by having children."

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It's worse when you feel like your parents resent you for being born into their lives. But I find comfort in knowing I'm on this Earth and have every right and freedom to be here as everyone else, no matter how bitter anyone else feels about it.

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"Human relations are fragile and can be killed but memes are forever."

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BrnInD80s said:
"Not all adults are nice."

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"In general, most people are horrible and awful. And if they felt that they are not being watched they would do even more horrible things. Most people stay away from doing the wrong thing not because of their conscience but because of the accountability. Most of the people stay away from driving under influence to avoid getting a DUI, not because they think it's dangerous. And the people closest to you are more likely to hurt you than a random stranger. Physically or mentally."

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Naw it's more social pressure and fear of being socially shamed. Atavistic fear of being kicked out of the tribe or having the whole troop jump on you and beat you because you're the lowest on the totem pole. Laws are (mostly) just levers to add to that pressure. It's why they don't work with certain people.

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