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Privacy Tech Worker Explains How Ads Know Things They Seemingly Shouldn’t

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Thousands of people around the world have noticed one odd phenomenon—online ads popping up about the things you talked about with friends, family, or co-workers but haven’t searched up. These micro targeted advertisements can include your mom’s favorite brand of coffee beans, a travel destination your colleague just got back from, or food for cats since your friend told you over the phone they’re getting one from the shelter next week.

So how on earth does this happen? Well, privacy tech advocate Robert G. Reeve may have an answer. He recently penned an illuminating thread to strip the mystery behind such ads, claiming that “Tons of people report on this. It’s just, nobody cares.”

“We’ve already given away too much of ourselves,” he said on how data aggregators pull up all sorts of information about us from everywhere. So let’s read the full investigation right below.

This privacy tech advocate has explained why people keep getting ads for things they talked about but never searched up in this viral thread

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Advertising online is not a new thing, but lately many targeted ads have become more personal, intrusive, and often, plain annoying. Sometimes all it takes is one browse of a wristwatch you’ve been thinking of lately, and the damned thing will be following you everywhere: popping up on your computer, Facebook feed, and phone. These stalker ads are no fun in the first place, but micro-targeted ads about things you mention in conversation are the worst.

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To find out more about how these ads work, Bored Panda reached out to Daniel Markuson, a digital privacy expert at NordVPN, a leading virtual private network service provider. First of, Daniel said that we keep getting ads for things that we never searched for because some of our devices listen to us quite often.

“Research conducted in the US by Consumer Reports showed that nearly 43% of Americans believe their phone records conversations without their permission,” he said and added: “This belief is connected to voice assistants that most smartphones and IoT devices have installed. And these programs (Google Assistant, Siri, Alexa, and others) are designed to listen to us at all times so that they can hear a voice command and assist.”

“The system works the same way as search engines like Google work. If you are looking for some products online, inevitably, corresponding ads will start chasing you across the internet.”

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Big companies like Facebook collect personal data in many ways and voice assistants are one of them, says digital privacy expert

When asked about the conspiracy that suggests big businesses like Facebook are listening and stalking their users, Daniel said “it’s not entirely untrue.” “We are surrounded by devices with microphones and the default settings usually let them record and store the recordings of the commands we make to our virtual assistants. Also, the passive listening on those devices results in accidental recordings, when words are misheard as activation phrases (like using ‘OK good’ instead of ‘OK google’). Some of those recordings are then heard by real humans to develop AI technologies.”

“Most of the smart devices are, in fact, manufactured by big tech companies, like Amazon, Google, or Apple. Those companies have admitted several times that they collect some data from their voice assistants for improving the service quality.” It turns out, we can not really be sure what happens with the information we give to these big companies “so the data can be used for targeting us, as users, as well,” he suggested.

Online ads are not only getting more annoying, they’re becoming much more personal too

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When asked why online ads have been getting more intrusive, personal, and annoying lately, Daniel believes it has to do with our decreased attention span and marketers coming up with smart ways to catch our attention. “Our latest NordVPN research shows that the more effective those ads are supposed to be, the more annoyed users feel, with overlay (69%) and flashing banners (54%) being the most annoying for users.”

Moreover, “the pandemic made online advertising very important for marketers as they have much fewer opportunities to sell their products offline,” he added. As a result, “there has been an emergence of more online business, which led to more online ads and more intrusive ways to reach buyers.”

Not only are ads getting more annoying, they’re also getting more personal. “Have you ever asked yourself how much information your phone knows about you? Your searching history, your holiday destination, people you talk the most with, etc.,” Daniel said. “All this information then helps to create advertising profiles, which represent targeting audiences quite accurately,” he explained.

Algorithms are so smart these days, they may end up knowing more about our personal lives than people who are closest to us

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Bored Panda also spoke to Lina Survila, PR manager at CyberNews.com, who said that targeted ads by social networks have become an urban myth at this point. “We do get surprised when we get ads about stuff we only think of,” she said and added that “algorithms are very smart and trained to actually know what you will want or need at a certain time.”

“Remember the case when Target figured out the teen girl was pregnant before her father did? Well, that’s the power of algorithms predicting human behavior (in this case, it was her discount card that saw unusual activity that is linked to pregnant women).”

Lina said that we indeed do stuff, often without realizing, that makes advertisers believe we are a great fit for their next customer. “Also, there are these things we often use as geotags, hashtags, our discount cards. You name it! By using all available tools, cards, devices, and apps, you give that information out,” she explained.

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Denis is a photo editor at Bored Panda. After getting his bachelor's degree in Multimedia and Computer Design, he tried to succeed in digital design, advertising, and branding. Also, Denis really enjoys sports and loves everything related to board sports and water.

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Liucija Adomaite is a creative mind with years of experience in copywriting. She has a dynamic set of experiences from advertising, academia, and journalism. This time, she has set out on a journey to investigate the ways in which we communicate ideas on a large scale. Her current mission is to find a magic formula for how to make ideas, news, and other such things spread like a virus.

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Liucija Adomaite is a creative mind with years of experience in copywriting. She has a dynamic set of experiences from advertising, academia, and journalism. This time, she has set out on a journey to investigate the ways in which we communicate ideas on a large scale. Her current mission is to find a magic formula for how to make ideas, news, and other such things spread like a virus.

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M O'Connell
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't have much of a social media presence, so its somewhat humorous what ads google ad services puts together for me. It seems relatively convinced that I work with heavy equipment (I do not), and that I am interested in meeting seniors in my area (though I am single, that's hardly my demographic). I do really wish it would figure out that I decided at 7-years-old that I would never consume alcohol, never have, and all the catchy microbrew commercials they show me aren't going to change my mind.

Helen Haley
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I seem to confuse the heck out of algorithms. I find it endlessly amusing. I look up really random stuff to just satisfy curiosity.

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Hans
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BP probably not, but look at what is integrated. Facebook, Pinterest, the Google APIs, Twitter, along with CDN services, along with services such as web content assessor. All of them are generating data on you, and very likely they do so across sites that you use.

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Sky Render
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Crap like this reminds me of why I'm thankful I got on the ad-blocking train over 20 years ago and never looked back. If a site's worth my time, they'll get my business.

Hans
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And yet when I use uMatrix to block not-essential scripts from being executed, especially those from third-party sites, Bored Panda gives me a sad panda picture, asking me if I really want to use "ads-light experience" and deprive them of their income. To make it clear, this is not an add-blocker, I use it "merely" for safety and privacy.

Mark Fuller
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Still can't accept this. Husband's FB routinely shows adverts on exceptionally random and specific points of CONVERSATION. Sod all to do with location, browsing history, contacts, email or purchases. I mention a leaky tap and suddenly adverts for plumbers appear. I declare I'm making fajitas for dinner and the ads reflect that. I find a hole in my sock and socks are the lastest thing on sale. Happens waaaaaay to often for me to accept it's just an algorithm.

Chaos&Roses
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I down loaded an app that alerts me when my phone camera, microphone and gps locator is turned on by an app. The log tells me the mic goes on about 50- 60 times a day. No apps have permission to use it, not even voice typing. Something is amiss.

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Esca Sav
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Alright well... why did google have my entire Gettysburg Address presentation recorded... I only found out it had a bunch of things recorded when I was trying to use google history to find my mom's phone that was stolen halfway across the world. (Long Story Short: From the U.S. I tracked down my mom's phone back in Poland. Some drunk friends of my godfather stole it from my mom's purse. Location dissappeared for a month, but randomly turned on again. Quick history check showed a dude was looking for BMW tires. Godfather found the guy by looking for the car in that area. Those little sh*ts sold my mom's phone to him). Either way, my mom and I checked our phone to see what else chrome was recording and it had a conversation that my mom was having in the middle of work that she doesn't even remember. Someone pray tell me why the hell it has this option in the first place.

Marcellus the Third
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It reminds me of the time about 20% of the dutch shared the same supermarket 'fidelity benefits' card, after they noticed you could just photocopy it. So that dataset contained one superhuman eating 20% of the country's food at many places at once, with a preference for exactly the average of relatively young affluent dutchies.

Marcellus the Third
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually 'noticed' is an overstatement. I think AH itself promoted this "be cool and add your own photo to your card" thingy, which made it obvious, and then the people just coagulated on one widely-shared one.

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AzKhaleesi
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know they "say" they don't / can't listen but that's bull. I can't tell you how many times I've said something, not googled, not anything and it shows up. The one that really creeps me out though is one time I was THINKING about something I couldn't remember the name of and it showed up.

Hans
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is because you will typically speak (and think) about things that match with how you browse the web. The tracking software tries to mimic how you would associate things with each other and provide you fitting advertisments. If you bought tickets for a sports game, ordered razor blades, and shopped for pizza you do not need to google for beer but be presented with beer ads. As simply stereotypical as this.

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Stephanie Keith
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We are our own worst enemy. And there are people willing and ready to take advantage of this, (Us being our own worst enemy) The things we have just come to accept and justify as okay. Truly is not okay and I just wish more people would admit that. Admitting to ourselves that things aren't what they seem. And maybe just maybe admit that we are all being fooled by the system and establishment. It will not get better regarding any issue. Until we admit what's going on. Because things can be fixed and better for each and everyone of us. But denying it all makes it impossible. Just trying to share some wisdom.

Om
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the other day I went to the kitchen and I THOUGHT that I needed to buy a new faucet for the sink, 'cause the hot water handle has been broken for a while now. I've never actually googled it for prices or stuff, since I prefer to go in store. When I went back to my room and opened Facebook, literally the first thing I saw was a Home Depot ad showing me different kitchen sinks and faucets, and I was like O_o Maybe that was a coincidence, but for example, the other day my friend was talking to me on Messenger about a treadmill she wanted to buy. She sent me the link on the chat, but I didn't even open it, she just wanted me to see the picture. 15 minutes later, all my Facebook ads turned into treadmills. Other than that, most of the times I get ads for things that I don't like/need at all

Cassie
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm still trying to figure out how Google knew I made a joke to my husband (verbally in person) about getting a coffin for our son to sleep in and then I got targeted ads for caskets for the next week. You can't convince me that Amazon's Echos aren't listening and sharing what I say after that. No, I did not look up coffins or caskets. It was just a passing joke.

Dynein
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not an expert on this, but I'd put Amazon Echo, Alexa, Siri etc into a waaaay different category than phone calls. I mean, they have to listen and analyze your speech to know when to respond!!! For a phone call, the job is done by just transferring the sound data, but for voice-activated assistants, speech analysis is NECESSARY so companies have a handy excuse to be analyzing conversations non-stop - and no-one can convince me that they'll just leave the precious data on the phone, untouched...

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Liz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Like I hear what he's saying but it doesn't explain some of the anecdotes people shared. I have a number of personal anecdotes as well that were really wild and way too on the nose for comfort. A friend's Siri once chimed in on a conversation and it was so bizarre because it wasn't activated. Plus they have revealed that at the very least your devices are listening to each other: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-device_tracking

François Carré
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The more time passes and the more I realize the amount of bullets I dodge by simply not owning a smartphone. I still have a cellphone and therefore could be geolocalized and tracked whenever someone would feel the need to (but my daily life is pretty regular and dull, they'd get bored very soon). But I'm certainly less involved in mass data collecting than a smartphone owner.

Arctic Fox Lover
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have all the same ads each time I log on to any social media (I don't have social media like Facebook or Instagram, I'm referring to all media I have that involves any sort of another human contact). I always get these really low quality clothing ads, sometimes cleaning product ads, and for whatever reason, I always (A L W A Y S) get a million yaoi ads! It's disgusting!

Grady'sRaider
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Advice: Consumer surveillance is real. Data brokerage is big business. These guys pimp access to you. So: Don't use voice command devices. Turn them off or disable them. Check all app permissions that want access to your personal info they don't need; ie contacts, camera, photos, location, email. Turn off location on your phone, tablet, PC except for emergencies. Use a browser that blocks trackers. Avoid giving your email address out to anyone on line or a business. Don't forward email with blocks of emaiI addresses in them. Google email accounts don't legally need your birthdate. Use private Windows 10 logins, not the 'easy access from anywhere' cloud based admin login. When going away for 3 or more days, unplug your internet cable modem for that time, to reset your "dynamic" IP address to actually get a new IP address. Email your elected government officials to express your view of consumer surveillance, after all, you are paying for it. Business gets all income from one source, you.

selioraxemaia
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boomers are the last generation to know what privacy is. I'm always stunned at how much personal info the younger generations give away. One of the best ways to protect your privacy online is to set your browser to never save history, never suggest sites in the address bar and clear everything and I mean EVERYTHING when you close your browser. Do not store passwords or payment options with your browser either.

Cori
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's calving season and I've been texting various people in my life about what's been going on with my cows, taking photos of them, sending photos to people. So what pops up as an ad in my phone? A set of fly traps I ordered on Amazon last summer to hang around my barn to help keep the cows more comfortable. And people think the government needs to waste money microchipping vaccines. 🤦‍♀️

depicus
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The irony that BoredPanda currently has 5 trackers blocked for me

Ann Mohrmann
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The ads that bother me are ones with pictures of gross toenail fungus. Or weird unidentifiable things with captions like 'Eat this twice a day to burn belly fat!'

Alessandra McIntosh
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is my argument with the antivaxxers who claim it's to get a chip in you to track you- like you've been tracked FOR YEARS without any chips. I work in the CPG (consumer packaged goods) industry, and the amount of data we have on shoppers would astound you, and that's just from the credit cards. They don't need to put a tracking chip inside you, you already willingly give them everything they need.

Viv Hart
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was looking up a local historical wine farm on Google, now I keep getting ads for wines from all the local wine farms, so I can blame Mr Google.

slywlf
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having worked in direct mail marketing for 25 years, back when most of it was mail order catalogs, I take vindictive delight in confusing the algorithms. For example while working as an in-home caregiver I would willingly search for any number of odd things on behalf of my senior clients, who were mostly less than computer literate (to put it kindly), anything from discounts on Depends type items to the nearest marijuana dispensary, to particular toys for their great grandkids. I don't have an adblocker on my phone, so that's the only place I would see the results, which were side-splitting! My home laptop, however, has the best ad blocker and privacy safeguards I could find, and I only relax my guard dogs on the occasional site I am willing to support. Some sites - Pandora, I am looking at you! - have totally lost me as a visitor because the entire site refuses to work unless I am willing to turn off my ad blocker, so I just say FU and go elsewhere.

Meami
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a site called mylife. I accidentally stumbled on it when I was looking for some info for a friend. It lists people's addresses and birthdates as well as some other info (religion, political party, friends, family, previous addresses) for free. If you want actually dirt, you have to subscribe. I started looking up people just to see who was on there. Everyone in my family - even my 88 yo MIL who has never used a computer. They say they are getting the info from FB, Twitter, TikTok, IG, SC, etc. but clearly, they are getting it from other places. I'm guessing she has a loyalty card from some grocery store and they sold her info.

Bobert Robertson
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So maybe all these ads for sexy singles in my area are targeted at someone else I'm around all the time? 😂

somnomania
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i keep location on my phone turned off unless i need map functionality, and i keep all personalized stuff on google turned off. also i VERY rarely see ads at all, and when i do i only note that they're there and annoying, not what they're for. ad blockers exist, people! things that block trackers are also excellent.

Karen Monken
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You mentioned the Target story as truth then the same guy you're posting all the screenshots of says it's a legend -- but no mention of the discrepancy. Kinda shoddy.

Barry Parker
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, but I, too, work in tech and this guy is COMPLETELY wrong when he says they don't listen. They don't *only* listen, but yes, they listen too. Samsung, Amazon with things like Alexa, various phone makers, Facebook, etc. all use everything they can and have acknowledged they listen at times as well.

Chaos&Roses
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thankyou for this post. Answers so many questions for me about how information is "shared"

prov dawg
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This has most likely been mentioned before but one factor for many of these cases would definitely be that ads are noticed now after being highlighted in real life. The same thing happens with newly favourited actors - going back to watch older movies and noticing for the first time that they are in it and then wondering how you never knew before.

Parmeisan
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is it weird that I'm torn between "I should start being more careful about my privacy" and "Except that actually I like targetted ads and how I learn about things I wouldn't have seen otherwise and I'm not sure I want to"?

Aleksandra
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Targeted ads is a fun thing, but here in EU it's a bit less invasive. But still after googling some powder foods i see huel ads everywhere lol! But it's always something i personally googled before lately

Mazer
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is sad, disturbing and sickening is how nonchalant people are about the wholesale reduction of their privacy

K Witmer
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

AI is going to be the death of us all. Hunger games sounds like a reality.

Peter Kelly
Community Member
3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All these whizz-kids can use as much high-tech as they want and bombard me with masses of sophisticated adverts if they so wish: I ignore it all. The only exception is if some adverts particularly annoy, then I make a conscious decision to avoid the promoted product like the plague. If only everyone shared my attitude, all this claptrap would stop within a year!

M O'Connell
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't have much of a social media presence, so its somewhat humorous what ads google ad services puts together for me. It seems relatively convinced that I work with heavy equipment (I do not), and that I am interested in meeting seniors in my area (though I am single, that's hardly my demographic). I do really wish it would figure out that I decided at 7-years-old that I would never consume alcohol, never have, and all the catchy microbrew commercials they show me aren't going to change my mind.

Helen Haley
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I seem to confuse the heck out of algorithms. I find it endlessly amusing. I look up really random stuff to just satisfy curiosity.

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Hans
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BP probably not, but look at what is integrated. Facebook, Pinterest, the Google APIs, Twitter, along with CDN services, along with services such as web content assessor. All of them are generating data on you, and very likely they do so across sites that you use.

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Sky Render
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Crap like this reminds me of why I'm thankful I got on the ad-blocking train over 20 years ago and never looked back. If a site's worth my time, they'll get my business.

Hans
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And yet when I use uMatrix to block not-essential scripts from being executed, especially those from third-party sites, Bored Panda gives me a sad panda picture, asking me if I really want to use "ads-light experience" and deprive them of their income. To make it clear, this is not an add-blocker, I use it "merely" for safety and privacy.

Mark Fuller
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Still can't accept this. Husband's FB routinely shows adverts on exceptionally random and specific points of CONVERSATION. Sod all to do with location, browsing history, contacts, email or purchases. I mention a leaky tap and suddenly adverts for plumbers appear. I declare I'm making fajitas for dinner and the ads reflect that. I find a hole in my sock and socks are the lastest thing on sale. Happens waaaaaay to often for me to accept it's just an algorithm.

Chaos&Roses
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I down loaded an app that alerts me when my phone camera, microphone and gps locator is turned on by an app. The log tells me the mic goes on about 50- 60 times a day. No apps have permission to use it, not even voice typing. Something is amiss.

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Esca Sav
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Alright well... why did google have my entire Gettysburg Address presentation recorded... I only found out it had a bunch of things recorded when I was trying to use google history to find my mom's phone that was stolen halfway across the world. (Long Story Short: From the U.S. I tracked down my mom's phone back in Poland. Some drunk friends of my godfather stole it from my mom's purse. Location dissappeared for a month, but randomly turned on again. Quick history check showed a dude was looking for BMW tires. Godfather found the guy by looking for the car in that area. Those little sh*ts sold my mom's phone to him). Either way, my mom and I checked our phone to see what else chrome was recording and it had a conversation that my mom was having in the middle of work that she doesn't even remember. Someone pray tell me why the hell it has this option in the first place.

Marcellus the Third
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It reminds me of the time about 20% of the dutch shared the same supermarket 'fidelity benefits' card, after they noticed you could just photocopy it. So that dataset contained one superhuman eating 20% of the country's food at many places at once, with a preference for exactly the average of relatively young affluent dutchies.

Marcellus the Third
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually 'noticed' is an overstatement. I think AH itself promoted this "be cool and add your own photo to your card" thingy, which made it obvious, and then the people just coagulated on one widely-shared one.

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AzKhaleesi
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know they "say" they don't / can't listen but that's bull. I can't tell you how many times I've said something, not googled, not anything and it shows up. The one that really creeps me out though is one time I was THINKING about something I couldn't remember the name of and it showed up.

Hans
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is because you will typically speak (and think) about things that match with how you browse the web. The tracking software tries to mimic how you would associate things with each other and provide you fitting advertisments. If you bought tickets for a sports game, ordered razor blades, and shopped for pizza you do not need to google for beer but be presented with beer ads. As simply stereotypical as this.

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Stephanie Keith
Community Member
3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We are our own worst enemy. And there are people willing and ready to take advantage of this, (Us being our own worst enemy) The things we have just come to accept and justify as okay. Truly is not okay and I just wish more people would admit that. Admitting to ourselves that things aren't what they seem. And maybe just maybe admit that we are all being fooled by the system and establishment. It will not get better regarding any issue. Until we admit what's going on. Because things can be fixed and better for each and everyone of us. But denying it all makes it impossible. Just trying to share some wisdom.

Om
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the other day I went to the kitchen and I THOUGHT that I needed to buy a new faucet for the sink, 'cause the hot water handle has been broken for a while now. I've never actually googled it for prices or stuff, since I prefer to go in store. When I went back to my room and opened Facebook, literally the first thing I saw was a Home Depot ad showing me different kitchen sinks and faucets, and I was like O_o Maybe that was a coincidence, but for example, the other day my friend was talking to me on Messenger about a treadmill she wanted to buy. She sent me the link on the chat, but I didn't even open it, she just wanted me to see the picture. 15 minutes later, all my Facebook ads turned into treadmills. Other than that, most of the times I get ads for things that I don't like/need at all

Cassie
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm still trying to figure out how Google knew I made a joke to my husband (verbally in person) about getting a coffin for our son to sleep in and then I got targeted ads for caskets for the next week. You can't convince me that Amazon's Echos aren't listening and sharing what I say after that. No, I did not look up coffins or caskets. It was just a passing joke.

Dynein
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not an expert on this, but I'd put Amazon Echo, Alexa, Siri etc into a waaaay different category than phone calls. I mean, they have to listen and analyze your speech to know when to respond!!! For a phone call, the job is done by just transferring the sound data, but for voice-activated assistants, speech analysis is NECESSARY so companies have a handy excuse to be analyzing conversations non-stop - and no-one can convince me that they'll just leave the precious data on the phone, untouched...

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Liz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Like I hear what he's saying but it doesn't explain some of the anecdotes people shared. I have a number of personal anecdotes as well that were really wild and way too on the nose for comfort. A friend's Siri once chimed in on a conversation and it was so bizarre because it wasn't activated. Plus they have revealed that at the very least your devices are listening to each other: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-device_tracking

François Carré
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The more time passes and the more I realize the amount of bullets I dodge by simply not owning a smartphone. I still have a cellphone and therefore could be geolocalized and tracked whenever someone would feel the need to (but my daily life is pretty regular and dull, they'd get bored very soon). But I'm certainly less involved in mass data collecting than a smartphone owner.

Arctic Fox Lover
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have all the same ads each time I log on to any social media (I don't have social media like Facebook or Instagram, I'm referring to all media I have that involves any sort of another human contact). I always get these really low quality clothing ads, sometimes cleaning product ads, and for whatever reason, I always (A L W A Y S) get a million yaoi ads! It's disgusting!

Grady'sRaider
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Advice: Consumer surveillance is real. Data brokerage is big business. These guys pimp access to you. So: Don't use voice command devices. Turn them off or disable them. Check all app permissions that want access to your personal info they don't need; ie contacts, camera, photos, location, email. Turn off location on your phone, tablet, PC except for emergencies. Use a browser that blocks trackers. Avoid giving your email address out to anyone on line or a business. Don't forward email with blocks of emaiI addresses in them. Google email accounts don't legally need your birthdate. Use private Windows 10 logins, not the 'easy access from anywhere' cloud based admin login. When going away for 3 or more days, unplug your internet cable modem for that time, to reset your "dynamic" IP address to actually get a new IP address. Email your elected government officials to express your view of consumer surveillance, after all, you are paying for it. Business gets all income from one source, you.

selioraxemaia
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boomers are the last generation to know what privacy is. I'm always stunned at how much personal info the younger generations give away. One of the best ways to protect your privacy online is to set your browser to never save history, never suggest sites in the address bar and clear everything and I mean EVERYTHING when you close your browser. Do not store passwords or payment options with your browser either.

Cori
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's calving season and I've been texting various people in my life about what's been going on with my cows, taking photos of them, sending photos to people. So what pops up as an ad in my phone? A set of fly traps I ordered on Amazon last summer to hang around my barn to help keep the cows more comfortable. And people think the government needs to waste money microchipping vaccines. 🤦‍♀️

depicus
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The irony that BoredPanda currently has 5 trackers blocked for me

Ann Mohrmann
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The ads that bother me are ones with pictures of gross toenail fungus. Or weird unidentifiable things with captions like 'Eat this twice a day to burn belly fat!'

Alessandra McIntosh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is my argument with the antivaxxers who claim it's to get a chip in you to track you- like you've been tracked FOR YEARS without any chips. I work in the CPG (consumer packaged goods) industry, and the amount of data we have on shoppers would astound you, and that's just from the credit cards. They don't need to put a tracking chip inside you, you already willingly give them everything they need.

Viv Hart
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was looking up a local historical wine farm on Google, now I keep getting ads for wines from all the local wine farms, so I can blame Mr Google.

slywlf
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having worked in direct mail marketing for 25 years, back when most of it was mail order catalogs, I take vindictive delight in confusing the algorithms. For example while working as an in-home caregiver I would willingly search for any number of odd things on behalf of my senior clients, who were mostly less than computer literate (to put it kindly), anything from discounts on Depends type items to the nearest marijuana dispensary, to particular toys for their great grandkids. I don't have an adblocker on my phone, so that's the only place I would see the results, which were side-splitting! My home laptop, however, has the best ad blocker and privacy safeguards I could find, and I only relax my guard dogs on the occasional site I am willing to support. Some sites - Pandora, I am looking at you! - have totally lost me as a visitor because the entire site refuses to work unless I am willing to turn off my ad blocker, so I just say FU and go elsewhere.

Meami
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a site called mylife. I accidentally stumbled on it when I was looking for some info for a friend. It lists people's addresses and birthdates as well as some other info (religion, political party, friends, family, previous addresses) for free. If you want actually dirt, you have to subscribe. I started looking up people just to see who was on there. Everyone in my family - even my 88 yo MIL who has never used a computer. They say they are getting the info from FB, Twitter, TikTok, IG, SC, etc. but clearly, they are getting it from other places. I'm guessing she has a loyalty card from some grocery store and they sold her info.

Bobert Robertson
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So maybe all these ads for sexy singles in my area are targeted at someone else I'm around all the time? 😂

somnomania
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i keep location on my phone turned off unless i need map functionality, and i keep all personalized stuff on google turned off. also i VERY rarely see ads at all, and when i do i only note that they're there and annoying, not what they're for. ad blockers exist, people! things that block trackers are also excellent.

Karen Monken
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You mentioned the Target story as truth then the same guy you're posting all the screenshots of says it's a legend -- but no mention of the discrepancy. Kinda shoddy.

Barry Parker
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, but I, too, work in tech and this guy is COMPLETELY wrong when he says they don't listen. They don't *only* listen, but yes, they listen too. Samsung, Amazon with things like Alexa, various phone makers, Facebook, etc. all use everything they can and have acknowledged they listen at times as well.

Chaos&Roses
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thankyou for this post. Answers so many questions for me about how information is "shared"

prov dawg
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This has most likely been mentioned before but one factor for many of these cases would definitely be that ads are noticed now after being highlighted in real life. The same thing happens with newly favourited actors - going back to watch older movies and noticing for the first time that they are in it and then wondering how you never knew before.

Parmeisan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is it weird that I'm torn between "I should start being more careful about my privacy" and "Except that actually I like targetted ads and how I learn about things I wouldn't have seen otherwise and I'm not sure I want to"?

Aleksandra
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Targeted ads is a fun thing, but here in EU it's a bit less invasive. But still after googling some powder foods i see huel ads everywhere lol! But it's always something i personally googled before lately

Mazer
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is sad, disturbing and sickening is how nonchalant people are about the wholesale reduction of their privacy

K Witmer
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

AI is going to be the death of us all. Hunger games sounds like a reality.

Peter Kelly
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All these whizz-kids can use as much high-tech as they want and bombard me with masses of sophisticated adverts if they so wish: I ignore it all. The only exception is if some adverts particularly annoy, then I make a conscious decision to avoid the promoted product like the plague. If only everyone shared my attitude, all this claptrap would stop within a year!

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