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Mom Is Appalled To Learn MIL Filled 8YO Son’s Head With Hate Towards Adopted 5YO Sister
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Mom Is Appalled To Learn MIL Filled 8YO Son’s Head With Hate Towards Adopted 5YO Sister

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Adopting a child is one of the most wonderful things a person can do. It’s a testament to the beauty of human connection and unconditional love as different lives get woven together to create a new family. Adoption also goes beyond biological bonds, which makes it that much more precious.

But not everybody agrees with that, and one malicious mother-in-law tried pitting her “real” grandson against her adopted granddaughter. Their mother had to step in and take matters into her own hands.

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    Woman blocks mother-in-law and bans her from seeing grandkids till they’re older after she brainwashes grandson into believing adopted girl isn’t his “real” sister

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    Couple had a biological son, Malcolm, and adopted a girl, Julia, but the woman’s mother-in-law was enraged by their decision as an adopted kid could “disgrace her lineage”

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    Once, when mother-in-law came to visit, she told Malcolm he was his parents’ real kid, not Julia, and that he should be getting more attention for being “extra special”

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    When the poster found out, she texted MIL explaining why her actions were wrong, blocked her on everything, and banned her from seeing her grandkids till they were older 

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    The woman’s husband did not side with her and told her that it was “inhumane” to stop his mother from seeing their kids

    The Original Poster (OP) shared that she had two kids, a 5-year-old and an 8-year-old. She had a very traumatic birth experience with her son Malcolm, and so they decided to adopt their second child. This decision was not received well by her husband’s mom. The mother-in-law was angry and felt that not knowing the kid’s parentage would somehow disgrace her lineage. 

    Sadly, the in-law’s views are not exactly unpopular. There are more than 147 million orphans in the world, and people still fear adopting children. Although around 49% of Americans have a favorable view of adoption, things weren’t always like this. That’s because the whole topic is surrounded by a bunch of concerns and misconceptions.

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    Parents worry that they might be unable to connect with the kid or form a bond. But, as with anything, time and patience can solve this issue. Another major concern involves dealing with unknown health issues the kid may have. This is slightly easier to deal with since adoption agencies now share the medical documents given by the biological family. The last major concern often involves possible behavioral issues, and this can be dealt with through counseling.

    The poster and her husband did not have these concerns. They truly made their adopted daughter, Julia, a part of their family. The poster even said that, “Malcolm knew to a certain extent, he’s just eight so I don’t expect him to understand fully. I’ve talked to him about how Julia wasn’t brought to us the same way he was but I made sure to tell him this doesn’t make Julia any less of his sister or our daughter.”

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    The problem arose when the husband’s mom was alone with the kids one day. She told Malcolm that he was his parents’ only real kid and that Julia was not his actual sister. Due to her malicious comments, Malcolm had an outburst and retaliated against his sister. His mom was shocked by the behavior until she realized her mother-in-law was to blame.

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    It’s important to be honest with the other children in the family if one of their siblings has been adopted. The OP and her husband had done a good job of telling their son, but his grandmother fed him a lot of lies. This created problems and led to a huge argument between the couple and the woman with her mom-in-law.

    Adoption experts say that there are a couple of steps parents can follow to teach young children about the process:

    • Read them books about adoption and show movies with such themes
    • Write down notes and keep the explanation as simple as possible
    • Involve your child in the process and take them through all the upcoming things to be done
    • Be patient and understand their point of view.

    In this case, it was fairly obvious that the grandmother didn’t respect the couple’s choice and did not regard Julia as her “real” granddaughter. That’s why the poster decided to block her and stop her from seeing her grandkids till they were old enough not to be swayed by her ideas. Initially, the woman’s husband didn’t take her side, but he eventually came around and set boundaries with his mother.

    Do you agree with the way the poster handled the situation? Share your thoughts in the comments below.

    The woman received an outpouring of support for her actions, and other adoptees shared their experiences in the comments

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    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OP excuses his mother because she's "old-fashioned"??? WTF, is adoption a controversial new concept? And "lineage"?? Who the f#ck wants to inherit her genes for discrimination???? The post is a year old. Let's hope the husband has listened to his wife and supports his daughter against his mother.

    Bexxxx
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree. I hate when people excuse crappy behaviour by older people just because they’re “old-fashioned” or “that’s just how people thought when they were younger.” It’s 2024, we can’t be allowing people to be horrible human beings just because confronting them might make them a little upset.

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    AKA AKA
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    chuck out the husband and MIL. if you try to twist innocent kids against each other you shouldent be near them.

    Rabbit Of ill Portent(she/her)
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F*CK the little old lady and F*CK the husband. Protect those babies and get rid of both of those stains on humanity ASAP! They can go make "perfect babies" themselves to protect their "august lineage" 🙄

    Yu Pan
    Community Member
    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What lineage is mil? The house of Windsor or Einstein? Why do people act like they have thrones to inherit or they have billions to pass down to the next generations?

    Vinnie
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Charles II of Spain came from royal lineage. As did Alexis, son of the last tsar of Russia. Those results suggest that's it not such a great idea to keep the riffraff out of the gene pool.

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    MinervaLavender2371
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    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Guess what, lady? Your "lineage" ain't that special! And, who in the hell says words like lineage anyway? Perhaps someone who barely ventures out of the county they were born in and who looks down their nose at anyone who isn't their own kinfolk...no one needs this kind of lineage passed down!

    Orysha
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't kow if it's sill a thing but there was a korean mmo called Lineage, people playing that were the only ones using this word that I know of. :D

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    Charm Hockaday
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Love is innate, hate is taught. This woman was taught to hate and she is trying to TEACH hate. Mom better not have given way to dad and reestablished contact with MIL, she can eat dirt with a hearty side of mud for all I care. She doesn't need to be around children.

    Alexandra
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate to say this, but if you buckle, your MIL will continue her abusive behaviour and your daughter will suffer from it for the rest of her life.

    magekaz
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Eff the grandmother and eff the heartless, clueless husband. NTA. I'm in disbelief over this hateful display over an innocent child. Do not cave to your husband's demands or you become as bad as them and your daughter will surely end up suffering psychological damage. Your son will probably need some help to undo the toxicity that the mil had inflicted.

    Anne Roberts
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    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely block the grandmother until she realizes the impact of her words, apologizes to the children IN YOUR PRESENCE that what she said was wrong. Your husband needs to "man up" and stop being a Mama's boy. My ex ALWAYS valued his family over me. That's why he is my ex. Twenty eight years after our divorce he rarely speaks to our kids. I have a step granddaughter but to me she's just my grandchild. No step about it. 😊

    V
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F*CK the whole didn't know the impact it would have bs. She knew exactly what she was saying and they (or she if her husband can't see the light) need to protect their 2 children from the hate. Age is not an excuse, in fact the older generations should know better, and if they're too old to know what they are saying then they should be in a care home.

    Sarah Matsoukis
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sucks to find your partner is worthless when you already have kids

    UnicornSnotRules
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My son is adopted, and the momma bear in me comes out whenever anyone implies that he's not my "real" child!! My husband and I are all he's ever known, and he's my son! Biology didn't make him my son, love did!

    April Dancer
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And let's face it, a lot of so-called 'real' parents don't deserve that title.

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    Dirk Daring
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You don't know her parentage / she'll disgrace my lineage".... Granny's racist, got it.

    Dorothea Lehmann
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The sheer speed at which the son went from hearing this horrible and, let's face it, supremacist worldview to trying to enforce it is horrifying.

    Beak Hookage
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Disgrace her lineage"?? What are you, European royalty? The woman is out of her mind and evil.

    Featherking
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And it didn't necessarily work so well for said European royalty either, for that matter. One of the most powerful of those families famously died out because the last heir was too inbred to have children.

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    Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Husband is instantly and completely human garbage. And should never have been allowed to be an adopted parent.

    Melissa anderson
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would take the kids and leave him. And file for sole custody on the grounds that him and his mother are toxic to her children.

    Laura M
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an adopted child who didn't even know I was adopted until I was 12yo (adult now) I can say that this is not just abusive. It is monstrous and evil behavior. I hope your husband reads this. Being adopted comes with a lot of baggage and subconscious abandonment issues even in a loving family. Even when everyone treats you like a natural born, you know on a biological level that something is off and you don't belong. It is very difficult to get over that, because it is subconscious. What this MIL did was not just a little thing. It was not just wrong, it was deliberate and got the exact result she wanted. That is the definition of a narcissist. It was evil, cruel and deliberate. She severely abused your son and daughter, not just your daughter. That boy will have to live with his awful behavior forever, and the older he gets, the more he will realize how awful it was. It reinforces the daughter's feeling of "other", which adopted kids don't need anyone to define.

    Laura M
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I want to go on about this. There is so much to unpack about how wrong and bad this is, but the most important thing here is that father needs a head check. If you are a family, all of you come first, NOT MIL. If he thinks MIL gets a pass on this, he is not committed to your family. Maybe he didn't realize this - you would know if he gets the benefit of the doubt, but this is the line. The rest is nothing to this. Please... never ever let that woman alone with your children again, no matter how much therapy she gets or how sorry she says she is, even if she is sincere. At this moment, I would not let her have any contact at all with either of them, but if any resolution happens, never let her alone with them. Always supervised - preferably by you.

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    varwenea
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    MIL and husband are AH. MIL clearly is. Husband can't defend hate regardless of age. He can't expect his children to accept and process hate. Ridiculous.

    Mike Loux
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Sorry I ran your mother over with the car, hubs. I'm just old fashioned that way, deal with it."

    Carney
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is from someone who has 30+ years of working with troubled kids and their families. RUN, do not walk, to therapy for the entire family. Face the ugly truth: your husband is willing to discount and dismiss cruelty toward your children. I say children because telling your son that his sister is not worthy of kindness, etc. is an act of abuse. He needs to grow knowing that he is loved by his entire family, that his sister is his sister (biology aside) and that you are a FAMILY. Not 4 separate individuals with differing values, 4 equal people. If your husband will not defend his child, then he needs a serious reordering of his thinking and you need to weigh whether he is capable of being the father his kids need. As for your MIL...she is very sick and needs her own adjustment, but for now she needs to be kept from the children.

    peter newsham
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    MIL and husband,are creating a monster,who doesn`t take much persuading to attack a 5yo girl,he will make her life a misery,you and daughter need to get out now before he rapes or/and kills her,i see a psycho who attacks 5yo girls you see a son.get out now her life is in your hands.

    Orysha
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would ban the husband too and tell him he's not a real man for not protecting his children. I would have told the MIL :"Next time you see your grandchilden will be at your funeral, let's hope that's soon".

    Terry Rex
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mil knew exactly what she was doing. You are not the AH she is and so is your husband for siding with his Mommy.

    Tammy Dickson
    Community Member
    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honey, your MIL is a giant AH for what she did. Your husband is an AH for not standing up for your children or you. I feel sorry for you and truthfully your kids deserve a better environment than with these two toxic people. I wouldn't ever trust your MIL around your precious and innocent children because she is evil and has sinister intentions. The nerve of her actions. I'd like to get ahold of that woman and set her straight. Your husband is way too passive about this.

    max haumpingspeed
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Go down the narcissistic parent rabbit hole it will truly awaken you. My husband's ex mom is a narcissist, I wish someone had told me that narcissism isn't exclusive to the wealthy as I had mistakenly thought. When I thought narcissist I thought of that movie American Psycho. She is a horrible excuse for a human being. The horrible things she did is absolutely unforgivable! For years she worked to destroy my family, to turn my kids and husband against me all while smiling to my face pretending to be my friend. I would love to vent every horrible thing she said or did but we would be here for months. Psychological; tried repetitively to teach my son that I was a useless, lying, b***h that must not be given respect, must not listen to, and what I said didn't matter. Physical; I still don't know how she broke his collar bone but she did, I think she was going to pretend that I was abusing him & I did it but he wouldn't go along with it. We haven't seen or spoken to her in 5 peaceful years

    millac
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The MIL doesn't like her DIL and views her as damaged goods after the traumatic first pregnancy and the decision not to go through that again. So, MIL does not feel any obligation to honor the DIL's feelings or parental philosophies. I'm going to guess the husband would have preferred more bio kids, but knew his wife wouldn't go for it, so he settled and was happy enough with the adopted kid and even loves her, but isn't as bought into it as his wife and mainly agreed to deal with her trauma. If they divorce over this, I would bet good money he'd wind up married to a slightly younger model in under a year and then pop out the 5+ kids he was wanting.

    Bryn
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To people who say older people cant change: My Poppy turned 89 this year. Two years ago, he denounced Trump, who he had largely supported. If he can change, she can change.

    Lena Flising
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Excusing MIL’s behavior, by calling her "old-fashioned" is just bulls**t! An old relative of mine was adopted, and she was born around 1920. She was very much loved by all the family, all her life. Unless this MIL is 105, she's much younger than my relative, and ought to grasp the concept of adoption, and that all living children are just as REAL, whether biologically related to their parents or not. It's bulls**t from beginning to end: even if Julia were biologically related to her parents, Malcolm would still be the only "real son" to the parents, as Julia is the "real daughter". Malcolm is the only "real grandson", just as Julia is the only "real granddaughter".

    Tracey Stammers
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Consider 1 chance, but only after serious sit down chat with you, husband and MIL. Maybe even counselling. Reinforce the sibling bond by sitting with both children and setting it straight that you love them equally and that they should protect each other. 1 chance - Non-negotiable if that trust is breached.

    Susy Hammond
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an adult adoptee, that MIL is poison to that little girl. Even though adoption is a normal way to build a family and many adoptees have super experiences within those families, there are adult adoptees still having issues that are not the parents' fault. Sibling relationships are also dodgy sometimes, so get your family into counseling and do not let your MIL near your kids. If your husband won't go to counseling, get your own counseling for divorce. He needs to be 110% on your side on this issue.

    Parriah
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your husband actually feels the same way as his mother does. He won’t protect his daughter because he also doesn’t see her as his “real” child like he does his son. If family counseling isn’t enough it’s time to take both your children and go.

    Brazen
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Dad's Mom acted this way with me. My parents had my older brother, was told it wasn't safe for her to have more children, so they adopted me. She then got pregnant with my little sister. My gramma made it very clear that I wasn't liked or wanted. It made my siblings say the same thing to me all the time. She was 87 years old when she apologized to me for it, saying that "I should have treated all my grandchildren the same." I forgave her, but my mind said "yes, yes you should have."

    Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Im so f**king sick of the gaslighting and excuses of "old fashioned" ... shes old? Then plenty of time to LEARN, you dont get a pass.

    Beth Wheeler
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh that old bat needs a come to Jesus meeting. The husband might need one too, the wife needs to tell him again what Malcolm did and said to Julia until it gets through his thick skull. Until the husband backs her up absolutely Grandma doesn't go anywhere near those kids. Make sure the school knows she isn't allowed to pick them up either.

    brenda porterfield
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and as for that sorry a*s husband of yours since he cant seem to get the taste of his momma a*s out his mouth, pack that mf up and send him to his f****t a*s moma and keep them babies away from ignorant s**t

    brenda porterfield
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    LADY, LADY, LADY WHY IS BALDHEAD MIL not laying in the hospital somewhere with sky high blood pressure with her heart skipping beats? couldn't have been me cause you should've done her HATEFUL A*S IN! KEEP THE KIDS AWAY FROM THE OLD FASHIONED DUMB FAKE A*S IN LAW MOTHER! OLE MESSY A*S WANNA-BE GRANNY!

    Lsai Aeon
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really hope this person rectifies this situation very quickly and makes sure "Julia" knows she is wanted and loved and belongs to the family. I was adopted, and my grandparents, parents, aunts uncles cousins, etc. all treated me like this "grandmother" is treating "Julia" It's extremely traumatic.

    Bad Alchemy
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would take out a restraining order on MIL so fast her old hateful head would spin. And hubby would be banished to the couch until he got his head unstuck from his a**.

    Ephemera Image
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She has a MIL problem and a husband problem. I can't believe he didn't back her up! How horrible for that little girl to know her own father doesn't care about her!

    roddy
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My MIL favored our firstborn over the second and spoiled him rotten. I tried to compensate the younger child and she told his brother that I loved the younger one better and hated him. I didn't know why he turned against me and the rest of our family until much later, when it was too late. She died last year and he killed himself this year. He adored her and hated me. Don't let this happen to you.

    Cynthia Smith
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    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I need an update; did she dump the whole man? I really, really, really hope so.

    Ellie Giberson
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omg your poor little girl 😭 I hope you told your husband and your mil to go pound sand !! If he didn’t stand up for her right when you told him , sadly he never will and your little girl will grow up being treated differently and thinking something’s wrong with her and that she’s never going to be accepted . I hope she and your son are doing ok now , and that you have support from Your family and friends

    Gale Christensen
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a woman who was adopted by parents who lost FIVE babies and COULD NOT have a biological child, AND who my mother's family pretended to accept only for it to come out when my mother was DYING that they never considered me family I will say this: Dump your worthless POS hubby on mommy's front lawn and never think of any of them again. They do not deserve you, your love, or ANY contact of ANY kind with YOUR children. Your son's sperm doner can contirbute to his raising if he wants, but he will NEVER know his male offspring until your son tuns 18. Then your son can decide if he wants to know this piece of garbage or not.

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    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OP excuses his mother because she's "old-fashioned"??? WTF, is adoption a controversial new concept? And "lineage"?? Who the f#ck wants to inherit her genes for discrimination???? The post is a year old. Let's hope the husband has listened to his wife and supports his daughter against his mother.

    Bexxxx
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree. I hate when people excuse crappy behaviour by older people just because they’re “old-fashioned” or “that’s just how people thought when they were younger.” It’s 2024, we can’t be allowing people to be horrible human beings just because confronting them might make them a little upset.

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    AKA AKA
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    chuck out the husband and MIL. if you try to twist innocent kids against each other you shouldent be near them.

    Rabbit Of ill Portent(she/her)
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F*CK the little old lady and F*CK the husband. Protect those babies and get rid of both of those stains on humanity ASAP! They can go make "perfect babies" themselves to protect their "august lineage" 🙄

    Yu Pan
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    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What lineage is mil? The house of Windsor or Einstein? Why do people act like they have thrones to inherit or they have billions to pass down to the next generations?

    Vinnie
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Charles II of Spain came from royal lineage. As did Alexis, son of the last tsar of Russia. Those results suggest that's it not such a great idea to keep the riffraff out of the gene pool.

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    MinervaLavender2371
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    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Guess what, lady? Your "lineage" ain't that special! And, who in the hell says words like lineage anyway? Perhaps someone who barely ventures out of the county they were born in and who looks down their nose at anyone who isn't their own kinfolk...no one needs this kind of lineage passed down!

    Orysha
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't kow if it's sill a thing but there was a korean mmo called Lineage, people playing that were the only ones using this word that I know of. :D

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    Charm Hockaday
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Love is innate, hate is taught. This woman was taught to hate and she is trying to TEACH hate. Mom better not have given way to dad and reestablished contact with MIL, she can eat dirt with a hearty side of mud for all I care. She doesn't need to be around children.

    Alexandra
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate to say this, but if you buckle, your MIL will continue her abusive behaviour and your daughter will suffer from it for the rest of her life.

    magekaz
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Eff the grandmother and eff the heartless, clueless husband. NTA. I'm in disbelief over this hateful display over an innocent child. Do not cave to your husband's demands or you become as bad as them and your daughter will surely end up suffering psychological damage. Your son will probably need some help to undo the toxicity that the mil had inflicted.

    Anne Roberts
    Community Member
    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely block the grandmother until she realizes the impact of her words, apologizes to the children IN YOUR PRESENCE that what she said was wrong. Your husband needs to "man up" and stop being a Mama's boy. My ex ALWAYS valued his family over me. That's why he is my ex. Twenty eight years after our divorce he rarely speaks to our kids. I have a step granddaughter but to me she's just my grandchild. No step about it. 😊

    V
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F*CK the whole didn't know the impact it would have bs. She knew exactly what she was saying and they (or she if her husband can't see the light) need to protect their 2 children from the hate. Age is not an excuse, in fact the older generations should know better, and if they're too old to know what they are saying then they should be in a care home.

    Sarah Matsoukis
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sucks to find your partner is worthless when you already have kids

    UnicornSnotRules
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My son is adopted, and the momma bear in me comes out whenever anyone implies that he's not my "real" child!! My husband and I are all he's ever known, and he's my son! Biology didn't make him my son, love did!

    April Dancer
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And let's face it, a lot of so-called 'real' parents don't deserve that title.

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    Dirk Daring
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You don't know her parentage / she'll disgrace my lineage".... Granny's racist, got it.

    Dorothea Lehmann
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The sheer speed at which the son went from hearing this horrible and, let's face it, supremacist worldview to trying to enforce it is horrifying.

    Beak Hookage
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Disgrace her lineage"?? What are you, European royalty? The woman is out of her mind and evil.

    Featherking
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And it didn't necessarily work so well for said European royalty either, for that matter. One of the most powerful of those families famously died out because the last heir was too inbred to have children.

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    Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Husband is instantly and completely human garbage. And should never have been allowed to be an adopted parent.

    Melissa anderson
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would take the kids and leave him. And file for sole custody on the grounds that him and his mother are toxic to her children.

    Laura M
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an adopted child who didn't even know I was adopted until I was 12yo (adult now) I can say that this is not just abusive. It is monstrous and evil behavior. I hope your husband reads this. Being adopted comes with a lot of baggage and subconscious abandonment issues even in a loving family. Even when everyone treats you like a natural born, you know on a biological level that something is off and you don't belong. It is very difficult to get over that, because it is subconscious. What this MIL did was not just a little thing. It was not just wrong, it was deliberate and got the exact result she wanted. That is the definition of a narcissist. It was evil, cruel and deliberate. She severely abused your son and daughter, not just your daughter. That boy will have to live with his awful behavior forever, and the older he gets, the more he will realize how awful it was. It reinforces the daughter's feeling of "other", which adopted kids don't need anyone to define.

    Laura M
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I want to go on about this. There is so much to unpack about how wrong and bad this is, but the most important thing here is that father needs a head check. If you are a family, all of you come first, NOT MIL. If he thinks MIL gets a pass on this, he is not committed to your family. Maybe he didn't realize this - you would know if he gets the benefit of the doubt, but this is the line. The rest is nothing to this. Please... never ever let that woman alone with your children again, no matter how much therapy she gets or how sorry she says she is, even if she is sincere. At this moment, I would not let her have any contact at all with either of them, but if any resolution happens, never let her alone with them. Always supervised - preferably by you.

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    varwenea
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    MIL and husband are AH. MIL clearly is. Husband can't defend hate regardless of age. He can't expect his children to accept and process hate. Ridiculous.

    Mike Loux
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Sorry I ran your mother over with the car, hubs. I'm just old fashioned that way, deal with it."

    Carney
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is from someone who has 30+ years of working with troubled kids and their families. RUN, do not walk, to therapy for the entire family. Face the ugly truth: your husband is willing to discount and dismiss cruelty toward your children. I say children because telling your son that his sister is not worthy of kindness, etc. is an act of abuse. He needs to grow knowing that he is loved by his entire family, that his sister is his sister (biology aside) and that you are a FAMILY. Not 4 separate individuals with differing values, 4 equal people. If your husband will not defend his child, then he needs a serious reordering of his thinking and you need to weigh whether he is capable of being the father his kids need. As for your MIL...she is very sick and needs her own adjustment, but for now she needs to be kept from the children.

    peter newsham
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    MIL and husband,are creating a monster,who doesn`t take much persuading to attack a 5yo girl,he will make her life a misery,you and daughter need to get out now before he rapes or/and kills her,i see a psycho who attacks 5yo girls you see a son.get out now her life is in your hands.

    Orysha
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would ban the husband too and tell him he's not a real man for not protecting his children. I would have told the MIL :"Next time you see your grandchilden will be at your funeral, let's hope that's soon".

    Terry Rex
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mil knew exactly what she was doing. You are not the AH she is and so is your husband for siding with his Mommy.

    Tammy Dickson
    Community Member
    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honey, your MIL is a giant AH for what she did. Your husband is an AH for not standing up for your children or you. I feel sorry for you and truthfully your kids deserve a better environment than with these two toxic people. I wouldn't ever trust your MIL around your precious and innocent children because she is evil and has sinister intentions. The nerve of her actions. I'd like to get ahold of that woman and set her straight. Your husband is way too passive about this.

    max haumpingspeed
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Go down the narcissistic parent rabbit hole it will truly awaken you. My husband's ex mom is a narcissist, I wish someone had told me that narcissism isn't exclusive to the wealthy as I had mistakenly thought. When I thought narcissist I thought of that movie American Psycho. She is a horrible excuse for a human being. The horrible things she did is absolutely unforgivable! For years she worked to destroy my family, to turn my kids and husband against me all while smiling to my face pretending to be my friend. I would love to vent every horrible thing she said or did but we would be here for months. Psychological; tried repetitively to teach my son that I was a useless, lying, b***h that must not be given respect, must not listen to, and what I said didn't matter. Physical; I still don't know how she broke his collar bone but she did, I think she was going to pretend that I was abusing him & I did it but he wouldn't go along with it. We haven't seen or spoken to her in 5 peaceful years

    millac
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The MIL doesn't like her DIL and views her as damaged goods after the traumatic first pregnancy and the decision not to go through that again. So, MIL does not feel any obligation to honor the DIL's feelings or parental philosophies. I'm going to guess the husband would have preferred more bio kids, but knew his wife wouldn't go for it, so he settled and was happy enough with the adopted kid and even loves her, but isn't as bought into it as his wife and mainly agreed to deal with her trauma. If they divorce over this, I would bet good money he'd wind up married to a slightly younger model in under a year and then pop out the 5+ kids he was wanting.

    Bryn
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To people who say older people cant change: My Poppy turned 89 this year. Two years ago, he denounced Trump, who he had largely supported. If he can change, she can change.

    Lena Flising
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Excusing MIL’s behavior, by calling her "old-fashioned" is just bulls**t! An old relative of mine was adopted, and she was born around 1920. She was very much loved by all the family, all her life. Unless this MIL is 105, she's much younger than my relative, and ought to grasp the concept of adoption, and that all living children are just as REAL, whether biologically related to their parents or not. It's bulls**t from beginning to end: even if Julia were biologically related to her parents, Malcolm would still be the only "real son" to the parents, as Julia is the "real daughter". Malcolm is the only "real grandson", just as Julia is the only "real granddaughter".

    Tracey Stammers
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Consider 1 chance, but only after serious sit down chat with you, husband and MIL. Maybe even counselling. Reinforce the sibling bond by sitting with both children and setting it straight that you love them equally and that they should protect each other. 1 chance - Non-negotiable if that trust is breached.

    Susy Hammond
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an adult adoptee, that MIL is poison to that little girl. Even though adoption is a normal way to build a family and many adoptees have super experiences within those families, there are adult adoptees still having issues that are not the parents' fault. Sibling relationships are also dodgy sometimes, so get your family into counseling and do not let your MIL near your kids. If your husband won't go to counseling, get your own counseling for divorce. He needs to be 110% on your side on this issue.

    Parriah
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your husband actually feels the same way as his mother does. He won’t protect his daughter because he also doesn’t see her as his “real” child like he does his son. If family counseling isn’t enough it’s time to take both your children and go.

    Brazen
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Dad's Mom acted this way with me. My parents had my older brother, was told it wasn't safe for her to have more children, so they adopted me. She then got pregnant with my little sister. My gramma made it very clear that I wasn't liked or wanted. It made my siblings say the same thing to me all the time. She was 87 years old when she apologized to me for it, saying that "I should have treated all my grandchildren the same." I forgave her, but my mind said "yes, yes you should have."

    Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Im so f**king sick of the gaslighting and excuses of "old fashioned" ... shes old? Then plenty of time to LEARN, you dont get a pass.

    Beth Wheeler
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh that old bat needs a come to Jesus meeting. The husband might need one too, the wife needs to tell him again what Malcolm did and said to Julia until it gets through his thick skull. Until the husband backs her up absolutely Grandma doesn't go anywhere near those kids. Make sure the school knows she isn't allowed to pick them up either.

    brenda porterfield
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and as for that sorry a*s husband of yours since he cant seem to get the taste of his momma a*s out his mouth, pack that mf up and send him to his f****t a*s moma and keep them babies away from ignorant s**t

    brenda porterfield
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    LADY, LADY, LADY WHY IS BALDHEAD MIL not laying in the hospital somewhere with sky high blood pressure with her heart skipping beats? couldn't have been me cause you should've done her HATEFUL A*S IN! KEEP THE KIDS AWAY FROM THE OLD FASHIONED DUMB FAKE A*S IN LAW MOTHER! OLE MESSY A*S WANNA-BE GRANNY!

    Lsai Aeon
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really hope this person rectifies this situation very quickly and makes sure "Julia" knows she is wanted and loved and belongs to the family. I was adopted, and my grandparents, parents, aunts uncles cousins, etc. all treated me like this "grandmother" is treating "Julia" It's extremely traumatic.

    Bad Alchemy
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would take out a restraining order on MIL so fast her old hateful head would spin. And hubby would be banished to the couch until he got his head unstuck from his a**.

    Ephemera Image
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She has a MIL problem and a husband problem. I can't believe he didn't back her up! How horrible for that little girl to know her own father doesn't care about her!

    roddy
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My MIL favored our firstborn over the second and spoiled him rotten. I tried to compensate the younger child and she told his brother that I loved the younger one better and hated him. I didn't know why he turned against me and the rest of our family until much later, when it was too late. She died last year and he killed himself this year. He adored her and hated me. Don't let this happen to you.

    Cynthia Smith
    Community Member
    3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I need an update; did she dump the whole man? I really, really, really hope so.

    Ellie Giberson
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omg your poor little girl 😭 I hope you told your husband and your mil to go pound sand !! If he didn’t stand up for her right when you told him , sadly he never will and your little girl will grow up being treated differently and thinking something’s wrong with her and that she’s never going to be accepted . I hope she and your son are doing ok now , and that you have support from Your family and friends

    Gale Christensen
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a woman who was adopted by parents who lost FIVE babies and COULD NOT have a biological child, AND who my mother's family pretended to accept only for it to come out when my mother was DYING that they never considered me family I will say this: Dump your worthless POS hubby on mommy's front lawn and never think of any of them again. They do not deserve you, your love, or ANY contact of ANY kind with YOUR children. Your son's sperm doner can contirbute to his raising if he wants, but he will NEVER know his male offspring until your son tuns 18. Then your son can decide if he wants to know this piece of garbage or not.

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