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Everybody deserves to be healthy because being full of energy means leading a good life. However, health becomes a real issue if you have to pay your weight in gold whenever you need to go to the hospital.

When US Senator Bernie Sanders asked his Twitter followers what the most absurd medical bill they’ve ever received was, the floodgates opened. The stories were shocking, to say the least. So here is a compilation of the most ridiculous medical bills that Americans were presented with. Get ready for your jaw to drop and your eyes to pop because some of these are unbelievable. Upvote the bills you found the most shocking, leave us a comment and remember to share with your friends.

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Isle_of_stressed_pilots
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a huge lump in my throat from reading the ones where babies die. I can't possible imagine what you went through

Vicky Zar
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know what they went through with the loss of their child. What I thankfully don't know is what they went through with the bills afterwards

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Hans
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Business over morale. No, this is not how it must be "because capitalism".

Charlotte
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, but gosh darn socialism is unamerican!

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C.S.
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Again, to say medicare for all or universal healthcare is bad, go swallow a bullet. Good people with decent jobs who have been law abiding citizens their whole lives shouldn't be burdened or forced with things like this.

Pinkpixy Lady
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And people who lose their children but have to pay a fortune should not be burdened with that cost due to privatized insurance and medical.

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TC
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What ? That's the most disgraceful, humiliating, shameful, insulting, disgusting and shittiest treatment any insurance company can give to any responsible client as regards issues on a stillborn infant. Sure the company is proud to be American. Get what you deserve bunch of financial losers. Shame on you. And you Americans I hope you get the support from Europeans who receive free medical treatments (we pay our taxes though). It's a shame you are sometimes prouder to invest your taxes in killing foreigners abroad rather than taking care of your own citizens. And I apologise if you feel offended.

Mia Cardenas
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Insurance is a business of greed. No compassion, just pure greed

Rachida Zenz
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

one day, i hope, someone will explain to the rest of the world what`s "make america great again " mean ...

2Tails
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Our daughter lived 15 minutes. We had to fight insurance too. Thankfully I had a great HR department who took care of everything just needed me to sign papers. Otherwise I don't know if I would have even thought about insurance either during that horrible time.

Amy Smith
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6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a massive pile of insensitive bureaucratic b******t.

Monika Soffronow
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5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is purely POLITICAL. Either there is comprehensive healthcare for all - or there is not. In practically all ways, it seems, are the less financially sound individuals free to be screwed over by Corporate America. That is far removed from being a democracy.

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    Martha Meyer
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this is a reality in many poor countries. The difference is that a rich country like the US could prevent things like this.

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    Hans
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That any country would afford this is beyond imagination. The loss in human capital far outweights any "socialist" effects (should such exist at all). The loss in societal welfare is yet another story.

    Kasia Gerkowicz
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    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    btw. There was a patient at the ER- he was from Turkey (to explain- within EU you are cover by any insurance provided by other EU country for basic health care. You may pay initioaly but you get a refund). So he has- ultrasound and some blood and urine test done, painkillers given. He paid sth around 200PLN that is... 50 USD.

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    Whatever...
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry the loss of your daughter. Beyond heartbreaking.

    Charlotte
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never understood how people are able to live with this much debt. I mean, I've heard stories of Americans who are well in their fifties when they finally pay off their student loans, so how do they cope with over a hundred grand in medical bills?

    MsBungle
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh my God! How this is not a crime?! I am sorry for your loss :(

    Pedro Botas
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its very strange to read this. Since I was a child and started watching cartoon network that I've always admired the United States. My dream trip is going to the USA with my family you know? Cruzing those green landscapes, visiting San Francisco, New York, going to Texas and Winsconsin. I love american cinema, music, games, authors like Edgar Alan Poe, genious like Tesla, I mean s**t Cow and Chicken changed my life, I still watch now and then and Im a 31 year adult! Reading this makes me feel disapointed.. that a nation I admire threats their own like this. We have free healthcare in Portugal, we also have donuts!

    Charlotte
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly the same here. I grew up thinking the US was the land where dreams were made. Hollywood, New York, the White House, blue Jeans, Marlboro. All the music, series, food and trends came from there. Now, I wouldn't want to live there if they paid me.

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    C.S.
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why ANYONE who think EVERYONE doesn't deserve to get healthcare should jump off this planet. "I'm sorry, you don't have enough money, you'll just have to die even though we have the means to save your life but require payment to save it."

    MammaG
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's literally every Republican. They are monsters.

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    Id row
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And this will never change as long as insurance companies can throw millions at politicians. And politicians should not get top tier insurance with their job, they should fend for themselves like millions of us do. Watch how fast the system changes if that happened.

    Monika Soffronow
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    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How about getting back to being a democracy? Forbid lobbying and gerrymandering, and make it mandatory for every state to have every citizen registered to vote.

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    Daniela-Iulia Balaciu
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    6 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think - regarding the whole article - that this is abuse. Ok, the doctors cost a lot to be specialised, the medicine cost a lot, the research, the treatment. But the top-most value has to be life. The people cannot accept this abuse, and the state has to support the welfare of its citizen. But how do you measure the welfare? By the money they have, or by how precious the life is?

    Pamela Blue
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the US you're talking about. It's ALL about the money.

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    Charlotte
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But boo, socialism bad! /s

    Paul K. Johnson
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And you'll notice that the "pull yourselves up by your bootstraps/socialism is evil" crowd don't pay their medical bills out of pocket. They buy into a system where the healthy pay the costs of people who get sick - insurance.

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    LOttawa
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is insane... What other choice did he have but to be in hospital.

    Brick
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This just makes me feel depressed, the fact that a young man has to file bankruptcy at age 21 because your government blows half a trillion dollars on its military. I am so lucky that In my country I have access to good healthcare that is payed for by the government.

    Lena-Sophie Vogel
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    6 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Medical bankrupcy" this expression does not even exist in my language (german) breaks my heart to read those stories

    Daniela-Iulia Balaciu
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Leave the country. It's sick what's going out there.

    Daniela-Iulia Balaciu
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As far as I understood from this case is: if they saved your life, they own it.

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    Natalie N
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I also broke my neck in a car crash, I also owed an absurd amount for "medical bills" and I also filed for medical bankruptcy before I even finished my first semester in college.

    Monika Soffronow
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    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    https://resources.lawinfo.com › bankruptcy › what-is-medical-bankruptcy

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    Id row
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone who says socialized healthcare is bad is either woefully ignorant or profiting off the system.

    Alex K
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    medical bankruptcy. first time i ever saw those 2 words together

    Anton Swanepoel
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read recently that around 60% of bankruptcies in the US are the result of medical bills.

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    Some of these bills reached tens-of-thousands and even hundreds-of-thousands of bills. I’ll be honest with you, when I saw them I genuinely thought I was either seeing things or that somebody accidentally added a couple of extra zeroes.

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    Daniela-Iulia Balaciu
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is anything in that country for free? Can you breath for free? Or... maybe you went for the stitches removal to an all inclusive 5stars resort?

    Sean Harrison
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not really. Everything that happens in America revolves around someone making a profit at someone else's expense.

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    Jennifer Berger
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was charged $7485 for 3 stitches. I should have just bled out.

    Bmo
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why I have removed my children's and my husbands anytime they've had them. Not paying that b.s.

    Allison B.
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm pretty sure if you walk into a hospital, take one nice deep breath and tell them you are visiting a friend, you will get a hospital bill lol.

    Carolyn O'Connor
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The US needs to cut the budget for the military, at least, in half, pull troops out of all of these European countries that get "free" health care and prescriptions. If they want to keep at it, let them do it themselves. The money can be used for the US to get "free" health care, etc........

    Id row
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an appt to get stitches out and I was visiting my mother and she said, 'let me see'. I showed her and she just went :::yoink::: 'there, I just saved you money'. That's what our system has conditioned us to do, home healthcare to save money. Glad the scar is in a non-visable place.

    Kimberly Anderson
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this is why I have removdy my children's and my husbads anytime they've had them not paying that b s............................................................................... bmo

    Dianne Guthrie
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    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is dangerous as it's forcing people to do their own procedures. People from other Western countries are stunned at how backward America is with their so called health care system, that just ruins people financially and puts them in danger.

    Firescales 22
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He’s got the cyanide and happiness pic yesssssssss

    Roger Bird
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nice to read someone who had some wisdom about the medical profession BEFORE they got fleeced.

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    Andres Tejeda
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is a shame, I swear I think doctors request test just to run up the bill.

    Marcellus the Third
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's more happy coincidence of the policy I think: If they don't run every likely & unlikely test and it turns out there's something else then the department is liable to getting sued for ludicrous sums. It's a whole ecosystem of problems, not a single cause (like greed) to fix!

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    Christopher Creighton
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hungry lawyers ensure doctors will continue to overtest.

    Kim Bush
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The ambulance service has a flat fee whenever they leave their base. Plus the cost of any and all supplies that are used. That being said, $12,000 is insane and that bill would be explained to me line by line.

    cheriecortez
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They do it as protection in this litigious country

    NWB
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    America you are all kinds of wrong

    Chonky Lilo
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People don't like hearing the truth, or are just very entitled.

    Karin Morris
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    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You don't have to go. You can say No thanks.

    Jimmy Roberts
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would send them a penny taped to the bill with a penny stamp on the envelope with no outside return address.

    Daniel Thompson
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And then you saw the bill and fainted again, ad infinitum.

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    Daniela-Iulia Balaciu
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    6 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If people have an word to say in that country, they have to change sòmething. It's very wrong. How it came to this situation I cannot imagine. The life itself has the rating below money.

    Bob Beltcher
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Greed. People with the most money funnel it to lobbyist who make sure no action is taken in government.

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    comboplush
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Disgusting. The poor lady, I really hope she found a way to cope with all that on top of the trauma she likely went through. This is horrible!

    Iva Kazalova
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m so sorry for your loss and the added grievance for getting the confirmation at this cost 😢

    Ellen Dinkelmann
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    C section was probably not necessary tbh, less than 20% of sections in the USA are actually necessary. Advocate for yourself, don’t give into fear mongering.

    Patricia Rix
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    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How does an insurance adjustor get to trump the obstetrician who said the emergency C-section was necessary?

    porcupine
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    6 years ago

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    Carolyn O'Connor
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The US needs to cut the budget for the military, at least, in half, pull troops out of all of these European countries that get "free" health care and prescriptions. If they want to keep at it, let them do it themselves. The money can be used for the US to get "free" health care, etc........

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    The harsh reality is that healthcare is incredibly expensive in the United States, and plenty of people always wonder: “Why?” Investopedia explains that healthcare in the US is “about twice as expensive as it is in any other developed country.” However, despite the cost, the US healthcare system is only the 37th in quality, according to the World Health Organization.

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    Marcellus the Third
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah, but the eggs they do so you can sue them for $12K or more.

    Jeremy Porter
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is the low-paid nurse "observing" you earning that $1,000 per hour?

    Karin Morris
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    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why did you go? I don't understand these posts. You said you fixed it yourself. Did they handcuff you and take you, or were you able to open your mouth and say. No thanks I'm fine.

    Abigail Luscher
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the USA you're legally required to go to the hospital for mental breakdowns, broken bones, any type of head injury, asthma attacks, and more to just "make sure we're safe". They don't trust us with your own health, but trust us with machine guns

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    Oscar Guerrero
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I read the profile name and did a double-take.

    Mia Cardenas
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And these are the people we are supposed to trust

    Marilyn Cirulis
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just got a Bill for $1066 for an ambulace charge to take my husband from one part of the hospital where he broke his arm to the emergency department of the same hospital!

    marmitejim
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But you stayed when you knew it was pointless...... I don't get it..?

    Marty BlackEagle-Carl
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NEVER stay overnight for 'observation'.. it's always a ripoff to charge you for un-need s**t... the bill wont be just for the overnight bed. you can always find someone to observe you overnight... go to a 24hr diner if you have to.

    Mike Hansen
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you had already treated it, why did you okay for the stay in the hospital??? If you ask for a private room, should they just charge you for a shared room because it was available??? You get charged for what you authorised!!! Did you tell them that you were allergic to eggs?????

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    Sterrinatu
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hear ya. My bill for a UTI was $6,000. They didn't even diagnose me. I walked and told them what was wrong what antibiotic I needed. What am I paying $6,000 for?

    Rene Simons
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also had a kidney stone. Went to the emergencyroom of a hospital in Portugal. They drugged me up . Did an ultrasound. Analysed my urine to determine it was a stone indeed (plus a bladder infection). Prescribed painkillers, antibiotics, pills to protect my stomach from the antibiotics and charged me 15 Euros (!) for the drugs. That was it!

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    Alexandra Hughes
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly, you should be suing them for failure to diagnose and treat a fairly simple ailment.

    Ron Woering
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I suspected I had kidney stones, went for an echo. They found gallbladder stones and bladder stones and benign prostate hypertrophy. So I had my gallbladder laparoscopically removed, and in a second procedure bladder stones removed and a Thulium laser transurethral prostatectomy. My Hospital bill was : $ 0.00 That is what Dutch Universal Healthcare means!

    Jo Choto
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And you cannot imagine what it's like trying to fight these bills. Once they've charged you, they don't back down. It can take months, years and even then, you are unlikely to win, and if you do, you still have all the surcharges added to the original bill, and your entire credit destroyed because in the meantime, the bill has been sent to a collection agency. It's criminal what they do with healthcare in the USA.

    porcupine
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After ~2 years, your credit should be back to normal, and the charge drops off after 7. Idk what happens if the collectors keep selling the debt to other companies, though.

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    Mia Cardenas
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Insult to injury. No excuse for this

    Eunice Probert
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband has kidney stones. The first time he passed one he had to have an overnight stay in hospital, and had morphine. Every year he has a scan and/or x-ray. All for free. Thank goodness we live in the UK.

    M Dream
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    in Greece it's free of charge

    Florian Füntmann
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    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I live in Germany. I was in hospital with kidney stones twice. The second time i had to underwent a surgery to get it removed. Both times i only had to pay 10 euros per day i was in hospital. So i had to pay like 80 euros in total. Healtcare works

    Bebe
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    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Got a kidney stone pain at 2 in the morning. Was taken to emergency room in India. Bill was 40$.

    Viv Hart
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Could they not get rid of the stone?

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    Iris Engler
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How is it that a human life obviously has no value in this nation? How can America ever be "great" again, as long as this madness continues?

    Jennifer Forshee
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because it was never great to begin with unless you were rich.

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    Mia Cardenas
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How awful. Nobody should be in a situation where you have to decide between your health and a bill

    Uchman
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    6 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So instead of healing, patients are worrying themselves sick about the bill??

    Phil Roberts
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the latest thing for ectopic pregnacies is "watchful waiting" because apparently even a condition that is 98% likely to kill both the mother AND the foetus isn't enough to dissuade the foetus-fetishists into allowing an absolutely *necessary* abortion.

    Foxxy
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    6 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bloody hell, I had an ectopic pregnancy and paid nothing. I had 3 Ultrasounds, ambulance transfer to a different hospital, emergency surgery, blood transfusion, IV’s, drains, catheter, medications and 4 days in hospital with all the are involved and didn’t have to pay a penny and I don’t have private health insurance either. I am so glad I live in Australia.

    Miztre
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Our public health system is pretty bloody great. I have a chronic condition that requires specialist visits and procedures every year, and it's all free. My GP visits are free and all I have to pay for is meds. I certainly wouldn't be able to afford to keep my condition under control if I lived in America. We are definitely the lucky country.

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    Justus Alana
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had the same life saving surgery got home got better and got an 82,000 bill. Lady called and said you can make payment arrangements at $2,000 a month I said sure let me reach right around to my backside and pull it out my a*s for you

    Sharon Hyatt
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So sorry for your pregnancy gone wrong. That debacle wouldn't have happened in Canada. If you are working, you pay a very reasonable amount for medical insurable. If you're not working retired, you are treated for a nominal fee or nothing. I'm Canadian; I know that for a fact !

    Danny Heath
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Only RICH human life matter - haven;t you been listening? They have the money but get it for free because they also have insurance!

    Mike Hansen
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You still having sex with your ex???? Make HIM pay the bill !!!! It was his baby too!!!!

    Id row
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've avoided the hospital for the same reason many times.

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    Harvard economist David Cutler told Investopedia that the main reason why US healthcare costs are sky-high is this: “The administrative costs of running our healthcare system are astronomical. About one-quarter of healthcare cost is associated with administration, which is far higher than in any other country.”

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    Liza C
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had smth similar with a family member , 30.000 out of pocket , insurance ended up refunding us 7 thousand back after months of fighting, but that's insane

    RME
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Rich people with addictions are admired for getting treatment; they have addictions because they have problems, and it's so admirable that they're honest about them and work on them. Poor people with addictions are judged and demonized; they have addictions because they're lazy and morally bankrupt, and they don't deserve help.

    Magnus Bruvik Johannesen
    Community Member
    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so happy i live in Norway when i read these horrorstories, here helatcare is free, we pay taxes to finance it.

    Koalamonster
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My cousin couldn't afford that. In and out of jail, ended up on state assistance because she couldn't keep a job because, just, so much meth. They don't do good rehab with state insurance though- they do pay enough to keep her institutionalized full time now though that she can no longer function like a normal human... I imagine having a few years of quality treatment would've cost less than keeping her institutionalized for the remainder of her life, but that's not what they went with.

    Marci Jones
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Addiction is also preventable...for the most part.

    Karin Morris
    Community Member
    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS is the best post on this thread. Good for you and this is what I mean about people taking responsibility for their actions!!

    Sandy Surface
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The ads on tv for treatment says your “private insurance would cover most of it” (in so many words). I’ve really never met anyone (including myself) who could afford “private insurance”.

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    Rebecca Rogers
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In some states, you can make the courts force an abuser to do things like that, but that involves going through the courts, paying for a lawyer, giving evidence that you were abused, etc. But that involves more money as well as reliving trauma. And this is all if you're lucky enough to live in a state that has good enough laws protecting abuse victims. A lot of states are absolute s**t when it comes to stuff like that

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    Chonky Lilo
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So the hospital should have billed the abuser?

    James Thompson
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. Liability. If someone hits your car, they are liable for the medical bills.

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    Su Hall
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many communities have a Victim's Advocacy Fund. Look into it. Often, the assailant can be made to pay for your damages.

    deanna woods
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your abuser should pay the bill and then go to prison.

    Phil Roberts
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, if you'd made proper life choices you'd be making money as a fashionable social media sociopath. Instead, some jerk set your house on fire. Perthonable Rethponthibility!

    Amy Smith
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where's Judge Judy when you need her?

    Mia Cardenas
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Broken system. Industries of greed

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    Hans
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one sounds odd. I cannot believe they forfeit that claim.

    John L
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They don't. They write it off and sell the debt. They may not hear anything for a while until a third party buys the debt and tries to collect.

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    tuzdayschild
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hold on, I'll check the sofa cushions. I'll get that $480,000 right to you.

    Brandy Grote
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My spine fusion was over $600k, but my Medicare plan covered all but $200. Medicare for All can be done, but we ALL gotta pay in.

    Scott Lloyd
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And that is the problem the ALL. The rich dont pay, the poor dont pay, and the undocumented immigrants dont pay. But all will use the service except for maybe the rich.

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    Julliette Jacobs
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    BE WARE....the bill will still be yours with interest, trust me they will not write that bill off, you will be getting lots of phone calls, letters billing you and threatening you, they will garnish your paychecks and take anything and everything you have in checking and saving acct, If you have a saving acct in your name and someone else's name, even if it is not your money, they will take it out of that account as long as your name is on it.

    Ms Phit
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like a misplaced comma issue- I can understand 4,800... but 480,00? Especially with insurance? Yikes

    Hard 2 Guess
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's neither Four thousand eight hundred (4,800) nor Forty eight thousand (480,00); Its Four hundred Eighty thousand (480,000 or 4,80,000). If you live in USA you'd know this is completely believable.

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    Kim Bush
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn't forget about this if it was me. That debt is still out there and it's ruining your credit rating. It can, and will, come back and bite you one day.

    Catherine Todd
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I guess the GOP and the tRUMP has the money, but they don't pay!

    Chonky Lilo
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they stop sending bills it goes into collection, then not paying it will affect your credit rating. The hospital then does a write off

    James Thompson
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After the CARD act, while that debt may appear on your credit record, I don't think that it will affect your score. I've got a bunch of hospital bills on my report and still have a decent score.

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    Mia Cardenas
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These figures are outrageous. Same with the pharmaceutical industry. That pill cost pennies to make and most people can afford them once they inflate the cost. Their excuse: "research"

    Paul K. Johnson
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Who has $480.000?" The CEO and all the executives of your insurance company, that's who.

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    What’s more, the cost of medical drugs in the United States is far higher than in other developed countries. Meanwhile, American doctors are afraid of litigation, so they practice what’s called ‘defensive medicine’ — they order lots of different tests even when they know what the diagnosis is.

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    Suzi Gauthier
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fight all bills. They know some people will just give up. I fought & they paid it. It may not work 100% of the time, but something like this definitely. Also, take the complaint to Facebook.

    Parmeisan
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why on earth is it up to the insurance company to decide what is elective, and not the doctors??

    Diane Phillips-Herman
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Obama did nothing to help this. He made it mandatory for all to have coverage or get fined. I already had coverage and my premium skyrocketed. My benefits went down hill.

    Rachel Hamrick
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Obama didn't fix it. I paid almost $10000 for a natural birth, so no meds, and I didn't even stay the extra day.

    L McN
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate to argue in this respect, since i am a conservative who supports changing healthcare for the better. But after all that has happened my insurance now covers FAR less, costs much more, and RARELY changes their decision on a claim. The insurance companies are protected now, and pay for so little. I was against government run healthcare, but after this debacle we either should completely removed insurance companies (and thus drop costs by removing those special lists and 3rd parties) or go full healthcare system. Now, if we can do it without death panels and EXTREMELY long wait lists for specialized service....I'm all in (tax rate depending....75% of my income? no....I have a family to feed)

    Jouni Hakkarainen
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To read these feels a bit...I don't even aknowledge my feelings. I have two kids. From that moment, my ex found out, she was pregnant, to that moment, we walked out from hospital with our second daughter I payed circa 140 dollars. That includes...monthly visit to nurse during pregnancy, and towards the end, every week. The actual birth, doctor's appointments, nurses, medication, room, three nights in hospital, 4 meals per day, also for me, all the by the hand given information from diaperchange to bathing and yes, if you taught what about that, that too....140 dollars. 2 kids. Boy it is hars to live in obviosly socialistic Finland....

    Id row
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Obama didn't take them to task, he created his own system where the poor get fined if they don't have the money to pay for their scam insurance. They wanted over $13k in deductibles before it would kick in and cover 40%. I didn't have 13k, so I was fined $1,800 at tax time. He created a system of legalized extortion.

    Leah Helbig
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    6 years ago

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    The affordable care act didn't fix anything and if you do the research the cost of insurance premiums go up every year with higher deductibles and less coverage. Obama really didn't come up with it he stole most of his general idea for it from richard Nixon. The government and insurance companies are the problem and healthcare needs reform but the type of reform it needs will never happen because it helps the common people not pad their pockets. Come on guys they are the enemy not you neighbors with trump or Sanders signs in their yard its time to take this country back together.

    Suzi Gauthier
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pharmaceutical companies are the problem too. I don't know why people don't want the government to handle it - we are the government - it's just too many people not paying attention & not voting. It is pretty logical that if we are all in the same pool that we can getting better prices, just by the fact that we are a large group & the fact that we can negotiate. Right now, insurance companies are paying more so people without insurance can pay less or nothing, even if they could afford insurance. Just tell your doctor that you're paying cash, and he/she will charge less. Also, medical care shouldn't be tied to your job. It keeps people from retiring & giving a job to a young person and keeps people from moving jobs. It is also a heavier burden for small businesses. The ACA was a Republican plan, and the fact that the courts said it was unconstitutional to force people to buy even if they could afford it made the price go up.

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    Vicky Zar
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    6 years ago

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    I'm really really sorry but this could have been avoided because they always say that the baby could die. There is always a chance that the baby could die, even if everything is ok. They just want to cover their bases

    Jennine Paul
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Vicky, ever heard the saying "if you don't have anything nice to say...?" I was in the exact same situation, FB upside down, water broke, had an emergency c-section that saved my daughters life. I'm so glad your baby was OK, OP, just sad to hear how your insurance situation turned out.

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    Kiss Army
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    6 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I went to the ER and was admitted to the hospital. Unfortunately the actual hospital is in a different building than the ER. I had to take a $1600 ambulance from the ER to the hospital. I asked them if my husband could just drive me up the hill to the other building (about a city block distance) since he had been the one to drive me to the ER. The hospital staff said it is not allowed for "liability reasons" and that you must take an ambulance.

    Faith Donovan
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband was once charged $3000 for walking through the waiting room of a clinic inside the hospital. He wasn't going to that clinic but its waiting room was the only way to get to the part of the hospital he had to go to. He refused to pay the bill, of course.

    Id row
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know a guy who went to the ER because he cut his finger opening a can. He got two whole stitches, bill was $1,200 and that was 15 years ago. Why someone would go to the ER for such a minor thing anyway is incomprehensible. He's kind of an idiot.

    Harley Kroll
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's for people that come in and don't pay. The people who have insurance are billed more.

    Sharon Hyatt
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's hard to believe....but I do as I know folks who have had similar experiences !

    Judith Wilson
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup - they file it under "Pharmacy" and have no idea what it actually was. You are billed for the cheap brand of facial tissues also.

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    Daniela-Iulia Balaciu
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Aren"t the ER acțions/operation free of change? Or ER is considered as privat hospitals? You are not paying taxes in that country, to have state hospitals? Just wondering... anyway, strange medical system.

    Tara
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly no. Nothing is free. It’s rare for a basic ER bill to be under $3000

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    John L
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Read about a student in a similar situation. He woke up in great pain and he was vomiting blood for an hour. He didn't want to go to an ER (because he knew what he might be in for), but feared he literally might be dying. Went to the ER and the doctors treated him for a stomach polyp that broke an artery. They used an endoscope and he was fixed up in literally 15 minutes. He racked up 25K in ER bills and insurance refused his claim, because it wasn't life threatening. Medically true, but if you are in pain and continually vomiting blood, what would you do???

    Sergio Bicerra Descalzi
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my third world country, similar pain cost me about $100. Was in ER for about 3 hours.

    Amber Seanez
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She should expect to pay 12k for back pain because she's taking up space??? What planet do you live on?

    Pretty Pangolin
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was at the ER after falling on the ice and cracking my head...the doctor said to send me home because he had me confused with another patient who had hit their head. I was like "I know I'm a little fuzzy but I don't think I've been treated..."

    Wouter De Clerck
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Come to the Eu ..we dont have to deal with that s**t ..Sure we pay more taxes spread over your yearly income but boy are you happy when you feel bad and have to go to ER ..they charge you the least amount they can and save you the extra hangover when youre already feeling like s**t ..#obamacareworksdudes

    Kevin Camp
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    6 years ago

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    What do you expect? You went to the ER. They are hyper specialized there and are trying to save people's lives, you are there taking up space.

    Brivid
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn't have said it like that but you are right. People should avoid ER and ambulances unless absolutely necessary. Having said that, you also have to realize that young, healthy people with little experience, don't always realize what is and what isn't a true emergency .

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    What do you think of the US healthcare system, dear Pandas? Have you ever had any massive medical bills? Share your thoughts and experiences with us in the comments.

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    Vesna
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The rule of thumb is that the docs HAVE to make sure you are stable, then the bill comes. This one sounds outrageous ........

    Maya Smith
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok so I looked up the story and here's what happened: the daughter developed a severe case of Deep Vein Thrombosis (basically, a blood clot) on a long road trip. Her leg was red, swollen, and extremely painful. She went to the ER and was pressured into leaving by the triage nurse, who told her to get insurance and see a specialist. The next day, the blood clot dislodged and turned into a pulmonary embolism. The $350,000 bill was from life support that eventually failed to save her life.

    Sharon Hyatt
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's inhumane ! and criminal ! ! I find this hard to believe this but I do.... Have family down there...... WHY ?

    Jenna Huntington
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think the Health System here in the US is highway Robbery and a big joke GREED that is what it is HATE IT STAY Healthy

    Rachel Hamrick
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one doesn't ring true. Hospitals and doctors, in an emergency, do not require proof of insurance.

    Breanna Hurkmans
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one doesn't make sense. She could have been saved but since she couldn't provide proof of insurance she was charged 350k and died? How does that work?

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    Vex Boxx
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The ambulances in the US are insane. I have flat out refused to get into one when necessary because I couldn't afford the bill. Asked my friend to take me to the hospital from the Urgent Care instead of the ambulance they had "called" for me. Luckily, she is no stranger to the US Healthcare Mafia.

    Rebecca Rogers
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Taxis, Lyfts, and Ubers are very common rides to ERs in the US because of this

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    Wilf
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a UK citizen this whole thread sounds absolutely insane, but are you seriously telling me in the US you can be unconscious- with no way of giving consent to people performing a service that YOU didn't request- and YOU can still be charged for it? How on earth can that be legal? Wow. Serious f'd up.

    Aisling Badsha
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I live in the UK now but Ireland isn't much better you pay for everything. The fact I have a child with a medical condition was definitely a factor in deciding to move here.

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    Nicolas Schirvel
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    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In France, Firefighters are part of the emergency health system and cn bring you for free to the hospital... Also public ambulance (SAMU or SMUR) are totally free !!!

    Mark Kelly
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Glad here in Canada there is just one ambulance service that only charges $80 for a trip one way.

    deanna woods
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These EMTs sound like some really great people(sarcasm intended).

    Amanda Greenwood
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's free in New Zealand, but because it is a charity they ask for a donation.

    Pretty Pangolin
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    $500 ambulance bill. I paid it because they made no mention of it being covered by my insurance. Ouch.

    Charles Tsua
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They're basically acting like vultures, fighting over to eat you.

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    Gabi X.
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had to pay €600, just to hear: oh you're not making eye contact with me, you're autistic. I was severely depressed and felt ashamed back then.

    Finn Fickle
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've gotten the opposite - I'm autistic and have anxiety but not depression. I have gotten before "you won't make eye contact, you have depression, hve all the pills". No, I'm autistic.

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    Noez 🇸🇪
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so sorry but this made me laugh...

    Lukyan Terdal
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    6 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    with greedy psych evaluation people like that, that's a very valid question.

    Bradley Roon
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why "psychiatry" is total bullhonkey. Their DSM V is literally labeling EVERY possible thought or action you can do as a mental disorder. They literally say that if you have a conflict - say sexual harassment at work - the CONFLICT is a mental disorder. Not you, not your sexist boss, the CONFLICT - and that conflict needs drugs.... Other head-job idiots looked at brain sensor imagery and thought there was a close similarity between someone with chronic pain and who was grieving from a nearby person's death, a divorce, etc. So they advised that if your most loved person/being on the planet dies - take aspirin for 3 days, and if you are STILL grieving (good grief - they TOLD you to get over it!) after 3 days then - they got drugs!

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    Mia Cardenas
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pharmaceuticals are big business and could care less if your life is at risk because you cannot afford medications. Cost very little to make these treatments compared to the bill you get. They justify this on the bases of "research". This is another vile industry just like insurance. No compassion

    Lorraine R
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd be more inclined to believe the 'research' claim if they weren't spending hundreds of millions on advertising.

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    DaVo
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Jesus Christ! That's awful! I live in The Netherlands where chemo costs €570 per treatment and is fully covered by basic healthcare insurance. I had 16x chemo, 16x radiation and a mastectomy. Total cost €20.000. Didn't pay a penny. I have additional healthcare insurance for €5 a month that gets me free oedematherapy once a month.

    DaVo
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even costs for travelling to and from the hospital is covered. Over a period of 1 year I got to claim €1000.

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    Sagar Sonkar
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is just sad and depressing for the family and the patient. My father is having a chemotherapy. It is less than a hundred dollars per session. I am from India.

    Restless
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope for a full recovery for your Father.

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    Bradley Roon
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Journal of Clinical Oncology - 2005. First study of all cancers and all chemos to find the real 5yr survival rate. It is a 97.9% 5yr death sentence. And it hasn't gotten better since then.

    Bebe
    Community Member
    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know of hospitals with free chemotherapy. This is unbelievable. People should strive to change this before it ruins anymore families and their finances. Really!

    Dawn Kay
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Back in 2001, my insurance wouldn't cover my one medication, so I bought it at Costco 100 tablets for $35. It lasted 6 months for me. This past June, I had a kidney stone and my insurance wouldn't cover that same medicine. It was $25 for 20 tablets using GoodRx. How is it possible that a drug that cost so little then, cost that much more later! In my mind, it should still cost the same!

    Clau78
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seniors in the USA have access to a public health care called Medicare. My mom had cancer, a hysterectomy and radiation therapy and ended up paying something like $200 total. The rest of us, not seniors, especially higher income (over $50,000 year) have to pay for expensive monthly premiums with high deductibles which may not cover all of our health care need especially emergencies. It sucks!

    Viv Hart
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In 1931 a doctor found a way of preventing cancer, his research was blocked, as the pharmaceutical industry saw their money-making business disappear!

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    Andres Tejeda
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Didn't you know there is a $900 speaking fee, plus $75 eye contact fee. Then another $25 just for walking in the door?

    comboplush
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's 45$ per letter for the sentence he said, and the spaces between the words are even free! What a bargain! Glad he didn't include an exclamation mark or something else from the top shelf.

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    Id row
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The air you're breathing ain't free, ya know.

    KT Trondsen
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well he did have to look at your imaging before he walked in there.

    Pusfarm
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, MAYBE two minutes, tops. Well, that certainly makes the fee more reasonable.

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    Pretty Pangolin
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not a fan of the surgeons I've run across. When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

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    Missy Barton
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What does it say when veterinarians have more compassion than health care for human beings? My kitten died two weeks ago after getting spayed and they didn't charge me anything.

    Olga Antonova
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How on Earth ultrasound can cost $933? Here in Lithuania in the most expensive private clinic it costs $77!!!!

    Rodey Hamza Hamzah
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then what is so great about America if this is how the hospitals' bills are???...ridiculous !!!

    Lesley Langlois
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Makes me so damn sick to read all these. Costs $0000 to have a baby in Canada, and same if you lose the child. No cost. No cost for any Ned procedures. Some drugs cost money, but NEVER anything medical. I’m so sorry for you all. Sad in Canada 😥

    Tanya Watkins
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ..we do pay it though...in the form of taxes...its not as "free" as you think...just not as outrageously expensive..

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    Sharon Hyatt
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so sorry........ I'm in Canada, lost a baby, (didn't tell me gender) at 19 weeks, I was devastated but didn't cost me a cent.......because everyone here pays a modest monthly payment for universal health care. Yes we have long wait lists for elective surgery but if you are critically ill, you go to the head of the line... .. was diagnosed with advanced colorectal cancer; had my surgery three days later...... that was 29 years ago....

    Marlene Ricker
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reading this makes me glad I'm Canadian!!

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    Doober
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly, if his best friend was married in a community property state, like California, their spouse would inherit and be responsible for that 2 million dollar debt. Really awful stuff.

    comboplush
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Could they reject the inheritance? Where I'm from, it is possible to renounce everything you might inherit to avoid being ladden with the debts of someone else. Had to do this for my father (no contact at all, but would have inherited his debts if I hadn't).

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    Kiss Army
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    6 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was 17, I had Lyme Disease and had to have a very expensive treatment. My dad was active military so, luckily, the treatment was covered. However, the doctor that treated me spent the entirety of every treatment (twice a day for close to a month) telling me exactly how much I was costing the Department of the Army. The final bill was over a million dollars in 1990. (My dad served for 28 years and did three tours in Vietnam to get this insurance for his family but this doctor clearly thought I was unworthy and took every opportunity to explain what the money they were "wasting" on me could do for the soldiers.)

    Doober
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What a s**t doctor and insensitive human being for shaming you like that. I hope you and your family never felt an ounce of guilt, especially after the years of service and sacrifice your dad and family went through to serve his country.

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    Mia Cardenas
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The indignity and lack of compassion. Just greed

    Amber Turk
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think the health care system hates us. Honest to goodness, hates us.

    Jimmy Roberts
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They should send them a penny with a penny stamp on the envelope and no return address.

    Bradley Roon
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The medicals and insurance companies need to go to hell and collect. They surely won't be allowed in heaven...

    Joseph Brzezinski
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does everyone think if you die you shouldn’t have to pay the medical bills? If they spend $2 million trying to save your life, but can’t, does the hospital just have to comp that bill?

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    KT Trondsen
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That doesn't sound right. EHS crews will always take you to the closest hospital in a life threatening emergency

    Breanna Hurkmans
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    they were probably closer to that hospital but picked the other one to give birth at

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    Mia Cardenas
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Greed and no compassion. The state of our world today

    Sharon Hyatt
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You have my sincerest condolences for the loss of you son. I lost a babe as well; My heart still aches . . . . . Canadian; wasn't charged anything, thanks to our universal health care.

    Joseph Brzezinski
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How do you choke on formula? Chocking is a blockage of the airway, liquid wouldn’t block the airway. It could have been inhaled, probably causing aspiration pneumonia, but choking??!

    Rachel Hamrick
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They treat emergencies without insurance proof.

    Vicky Zar
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    6 years ago

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    Never heard of a baby choking on formula before

    Thenatural
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What kind of a f*****g heartless comment is that????

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    Daniela-Iulia Balaciu
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you have to make a credit to afford a child? Or paying rates after the birth? That country is not right.

    Bob Beltcher
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I paid $5,500 for the birth of my daughter. She was in ICU for 6 days just because she didn't eat within the first 4 hours of being born. She had no problems after 8 hours but they kept her in there anyways to monitor her. She was supposed to be released on the 5th day but the doctor forgot to do her hearing test which is required prior to being released. I complained to the hospital and insurance company. No one cared.

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    Tara
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s a sad world when one has to celebrate only 10k with excellent insurance?

    Zenozenobee
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an emergency c-section to save my son's life. I paid 16€ . For the night by companion spent with us in the room and the breakfast in the morning (France).. I would never ba able to aford a pregnancy in USA

    NWB
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All of that in Australia would have cost you nothing......god that is sad!

    jenjie.newt
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did they take a kidney while they were in there

    KMB
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the USA we choose our own Doctors, hospitals & carers. Outside the USA you are assigned a Doctor whom may not be any good or you don't like but thats too bad because you are stuck with what you get. I can choose to go to the hospital down the road or go to the medical center, you have no choice. You pay a fortune in Taxes to cover your "Free" medical care which is higher than my health insurance. I'll take health care in the USA any day over what you have.

    deanna woods
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You shouldn't have had to pay anything. The c-section was to save your lives.

    redheadwahine
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And economists wonder why the birth rate has fallen in the US... this is just one of the many reasons, but it's definitely a major contributing factor. Birth is big business whether natural or cesarean and it's one that many can't afford.

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    Kirt Carson
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My wife had endometriosis. Her doctor worked with our insurance to make certain the procedure was covered. We called ourselves early on, and just before going under the knife and was assured we had coverage. We started getting bills in the mail from the doctor asking for the full costs of procedure. We contacted the insurance company and they informed us that there is a process of sending a formal letter with a specific question, and they would answer within so many business days. Their first several replies were 'coverage exhausted' without much else. Every month another letter came asking for payment in full, and every month we got the same short answer from the insurance company. Eventually we learned the policy I was paying into for my family at a steep price every check had an annual total inpatient coverage of $1,500. That's fifteen hundred dollars; which was nowhere near the total cost. The company I worked for was owned by my insurance company.

    Id row
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This, above all else, should be illegal. A lot of people are getting hit with this scam. Unless you ask the doctor at the hospital specifically if your insurance covers them, you could be hit with a bankrupting bill.

    Ruth Swain
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Canada there is no in or out of network. We get work done by whomever is there and still pay nothing but a little tax.

    Shlomo Abrin
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Starting to think the insurance carriers deliberately put people into out-of-network services to minimize their own liability. This is reasonable to assume because many hospitals are now owned (or partially controlled) by insurance corporations.

    Allison B.
    Community Member
    6 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My insurance covered one guy who was on call outside his actual shifts (the first time I met him he did my epidural for my son, not a very memorable guy at the time but it was 8am so not bad) Fast forward almost a year later when I had to get my appendix removed. It was 1am when I went to the hospital with horrible stomach pains, I couldn't even walk, they wisk me away to emergency surgery (a mom with less then a 1 year old, who is working fulltime and in college fulltime) on a Monday night. They called him in, like woke him up at home to come put me to sleep at 2am. He was so rude because he just woke up, and I was already scared. He made ME feel bad before surgery I didnt ask for lol. That poor guy, atleast the hospital is decent enough to make sure i wasn't going to pay out of pocket to save my life. But they can't open more positions up so he didnt have to patient shame me? Clearly hospitals are making good money from us poor Americans.

    Allison B.
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oddly enough, fast forward 4 years later when I had my daughter... he was the one to do my epidural for her. Again this was the middle of the day so he was actually a nice guy. But I wish he would of had that same energy when my life was actually on the line. When I was alone and scared shtless in the middle of the night. He apologized to me though, he said he remembered my name and always had felt bad about he treated me that night. But hospitals shouldn't be allowed to do that when it comes to things that are actually needed, outsource beyond what the insurance can pay for, for what? Again clearly they are making alot of money to not have to be such a-holes.

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    William Bonner
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I chose to have some elective surgery and had researched the costs ahead of time. Everything was in-network. After the procedure, I got a bill from a second surgeon. Apparently the first surgeon (in-network) invited a colleague to join him. He was out-of-network and insurance wouldn't cover his bill.

    Clau78
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This should be illegal! I can't imagine any other business situation where something like this will be legal. I brought an extra lawyer so he can charge you extra for no reason.... this is a new type of legal arm robbery

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    John L
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. "Surprise billing", one of the ACA loopholes that need to be closed.

    Ruth Swain
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Canada, everyone is "in network", so if you need help, you get it without seeing a bill.

    Brandy Grote
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Call your insurance company (I know..) and explain you had no knowledge of it and no way to refuse it, and please resubmit the bill or fight for an exclusion so they will cover it.

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    Daniela-Iulia Balaciu
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a sick country. I am not reffering to peoples' health, but the medical system is sick.

    comboplush
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder if the second sense of your statement would also hold true. So many people might not go to any kind of check-ups, thus missing chances to treat something that later develops into something more serious...I really wonder how the general health of the US is like.

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    Evil Little Thing
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Imagine if instead, you paid an extra $5,000 in taxes, DIDN'T pay a dime for health insurance/care out of pocket, and your employer paid YOU the insurance premium money as part if your salary. Universal health care, baby.

    NWB
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dont know how you all survive!!!!

    Snowy Tundra
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot of us don't. There are a lot of premature deaths due to delays in diagnosis and treatment because of fears of huge bills. There are recent stories of diabetics who gambled on their body's ability to deal with high blood sugars and they lost. It's sickening.

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    Andrea Delden
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Two weeks ago tomorrow I had surgery because I had cancer in my bowel. Prior to the surgery I had 2 colonoscopies, during 1 they did a biopsy which is when they found the cancer. I also had a contrast CT scan and a number of doctor visits. I spoke to the surgeon and the anesthesiologist before surgery. My surgeon visited me after the surgery when I was in bed and awake enough to converse. He visited everyday and sent me home with a Rx for pain meds. I go to see him again in 2 weeks. I live in Canada, the cost to me has been $0.00. I waited 5 weeks from diagnosis until surgery which wasn’t a problem because the cancer was discovered early. Had it been necessary I would have had the surgery sooner. I can’t imagine the added stress that worrying about the bill would have added to the stress of the surgery and outcome. Americans often say that they live in the greatest country in the world. I guess that’s until they get sick or are in an accident.

    KT Trondsen
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Come to Canada. We are awesome and the medical care is free! An ambulance will only set you back $80

    Wil Vanderheijden
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's fvcking sad that people keep insisting that the American healthcare system has it's merits. No, it doesn't. There's no way to justify that people die because they can't afford the medical treatment or medicins they need. You can't justify that people suffering from diabetes die because they can;t afford the insulin. You can't declare with a clear consious that you're a Christian and allow that people die because they can't afford medical treatment. Hoe dare you call yourself civilised and the "greatest nation in the world" when people die because they are too poor to see a doctor. It's an outrage and all Americans should feel ashamed for letting their countrymen down.

    KMB
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We have free dr's & hospitals all over the place for people who cannot afford a dr or regular hospital. There are 2 within 30 min of where I live. Medical care is and always has been available for everyone.

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    Ruth Swain
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only time I have to pay to see a doctor is when I get a check-up for driver's licence. Because of my age and the class of licence, I have to go every year now. $120.

    Rachel Hamrick
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People with free health care use the emergency room as a primary care provider. My tax dollars pay for it. There have been times I needed the ER or one of my kids did, but I couldn't afford to go, because I have insurance.

    Dawn Kay
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Money talks here in the US health care. My friend's husband and I both had/have pinched nerves. He had one, and I have 2. He only had to deal with the pain from his for 3 months before getting referred to for surgery by a top orthopedic specialist here. I'm going on 4 yrs. Did everything he did. The injections, physical therapy, etc. Failed all but still no surgery. The difference, he has better health insurance than I do. That's another problem: better insurance equals better quality of care. But also higher deductibles too.

    Kat Hoth
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My $6,000 yearly deductible, every year because I have cancer. Plus any 'uncovered' costs like the new required drug testing at $600 each, because of my pain medication.

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    LOttawa
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who the hell has a $60k credit card??!? and will you be my friend...

    Chris
    Community Member
    6 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And why the f would you write the number down on a pre-paid postage slip, with the CVV??? That's a massive security risk!

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    PaulV
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    /s This is so simple, it's silly. Rent out your Ferrari at $1000/day, or just sell your spare BMW. And you can save a lot more by driving your own Bentley instead of employing a driver. Think, people!

    Cindy Snow
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell them to go f**k themselves

    Kim Bush
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Set it up on payments. $50 a month will keep them off your back and it won't be turned over to bill collectors.

    Jimmy Roberts
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    send them a penny with a penny stamp on the bill with no return address.

    George Hudacko
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wipe your butt with it and send it back marked paid!

    Gustavo Di Palma
    Community Member
    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    do what I did...file it under "G" for garbage .after a few years they stop and never l did lose points on my score...

    KMB
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Call and set up payments, it is done all the time

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    Mark Kelly
    Community Member
    6 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My bro was rear ended here in Canada and had no bills and even received almost 10 grand

    Id row
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Canada is like that annoying older brother with all the talent and smarts and we're the loser sibling who can't get their s**t together and lives at home until they're 40.

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    Uchman
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Medical bankruptcy? Are you f**King kidding me???

    Uwe Theiss
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where are you from? I'm from germany and all of this stories are just mad! It sounds like a death sentence to get sick in the US. I also never heard the term "medical bankruptcy".

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    Diana Hockley
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank God for our SOCIALIST medical system here in Australia!

    Rachel Hamrick
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Usually, rear-ended accidents are the fault of the car who hit the other. Very odd that you were asked to pay.

    Dawn Kay
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got rear-ended by an uninsured motorist. My car insurance paid my medical bills plus I had to sue my car insurance for injuries she caused. That's why we pay for car insurance. I ended up with $50k then minus what the lawyer took in fees.

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    Andres Tejeda
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm mean did the doctor make eye contact? that's already a$ 75 charge just for that.

    Molly Universe
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, but he must've breathed. That's a $50 charge.

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    Mia Cardenas
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You got away easy compared to others, thank goodness

    Sonya Hahn-Riley
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Saw an in network pain psychologist for my mental health. Finally paid off my bill for the university just to get billed over $900 for seen the pain psych for 3 separate 40 minute zoom calls. They failed to tell me that she didn’t accept insurance. Now I won’t seek mental health help because I don’t want the mental stress over the bills

    KCN
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They probably charged her for waiting in the office.

    Grace Robertson
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a bill for an out of office visit. A P.A. that worked in my doctor's office saw me at a supermarket aisle asked how I was doing, which I answered fine. Got bill for 275. for that. Out of office visit.

    Kat Didemus
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This cannot be real. I refuse to believe it. It's like you can't acknowledge a doctor's existence or else they charge you! This has to be a troll. Say psych right now. I feel stupid for even asking.

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    Fulsome Kitten
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My sister was t-boned by a driver who ran a red light. She not only lost her primary transportation, but was charged 10's of thousands of dollars by the hospital (who only did xrays and told her her was exaggerating her pain) then had to declare bankruptcy all before age 25. Couple that with 10's of thousands in student loan debt and you've got yourself a typical modern American! SMDH This s**t is not right!

    Riddle-Le-Tails
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    doctors live in different timelines have you really not watched dr who? (joke)

    Kat Didemus
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They live in the future where inflation is several hundred percent what it is today. And charge accordingly.

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    comboplush
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At this point, I do believe they just declare how many digits the bill should include and let a random number generator do the rest.

    Freya Fluharty
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In 2016 I was taken into hospital. I was given a lot of painkillers (apparently) and then they realised the scar tissue from a hemi-colectomy in 1986 had wrapped from part of my bowel. I then had (within 10 days) a laparoscopy, septic shock, laparotomy, ICU, life support/dialysis, HDU, TPN and a further 5 weeks in hospital followed by daily visits by the District Nurse, PICA and goodness knows what else. I daren't imagine how much that would have cost in the US.

    Erika Jones
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My brother-in-law and his wife had a baby at 26 weeks. The baby survived, but he spent over 4 months in the hospital. They received a bill for 1,000,000.25 - one million dollars and 25 cents. My brother-in-law said it was the 25 cents that really got him.

    Bob Peterson
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Great stories but what no one is mentioning is that a major portion of the bill you get is to pay for all of those who don't pay anything at all for services and treatment. Health care costs don't go down when everyone has insurance, they only go up to cover the cost of services provided. The pathos may be real but the logos is missing.

    Jeff Christensen
    Community Member
    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought that might almost be reasonable for seven months, but then I remembered they do dates differently in the US and it was seven days.

    Alison Heppell
    Community Member
    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My goodness ,I’m so glad I live in England ,,, no bills ,no payment required,for all these treatments

    Jimmy Roberts
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Send them a penny with a penny stamp on the bill with no return address outside.

    Viv Hart
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Over $103K for 8 days in hospital? Your health system sucks!

    Brenda Pereira
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Patients who do NOT have insurance are severely penalized because there is no "Cash" option for lower payments. Hospitals and medical clinics make contracts with insurance for what they will actually pay. They end up getting it MUCH cheaper than an individual. Ex: I had an ultrasound and the insurance company was billed $5,000+. They allowed $78 and the rest was written off due to their contract agreement. They ended up doing the test for $78 and my part was $7.80! If I had not had insurance, they would have charged me the entire amount instead of the contracted amount. If a test can be done for $78, why are they charging individuals $5000+? Are they adding the amount written off to the charges of people who don't have insurance so they can get that amount after all? It's a crooked system and will remain so until we have Medicare for all!!!

    Rachel Hamrick
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've seen way higher bills for a 7 day stay.

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    Alethia Nyx
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They give you less that 2 months to magically come up with $22,000?!?!?! WTF

    Riddle-Le-Tails
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the random number generator strikes back

    Foxxy
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I paid $165 out of pocket for my breast reductions. I had to be on the waiting list for two years to get it on the public system but was worth the wait. The $165 paid the consult fees at the private office of the plastic surgeon. Everything else was paid by Medicare.

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    Andres Tejeda
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The worst part is, tax payer money is used to fund the research of some medicines only for those same companies to price gouge us.

    William Bonner
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I ordered a prescription that cost around $1,100. I found a coupon online that took it down to $24.

    William Bonner
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Until I meet my $6,000 insurance deductible, I pay for prescriptions out-of-pocket. I thought the insurance companies negotiate discounts. I went to the pharmacy one day with a prescription and handed over my insurance card. $82. The pharmacist handed my card back and said, "Don't bother with the insurance. I'll just charge you retail". Got it for $50.

    Pretty Pangolin
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get a couple of Rx's from India and I'm very pleased - it's been a couple of years now. They treat me better than 'legitimate' drug companies.

    Mia Cardenas
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pharmaceutical industry is a scam. They claim it funds "research"

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    Andres Tejeda
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Damn that's worth more than if you were peeing gold.

    Riddle-Le-Tails
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    people have weird fetishes what can I say

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    comboplush
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, you now got 200$ less to spend on cigarettes, very considerate of him!

    John L
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This truly is sad when your own doctor tells you to lie to him.....

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    Andrew Bridge
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    15k for fillings? Tell them f**k off mine cost £62, sixty two

    Erica Kendrick
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You shouldn't have to pay anything for children!

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    Pretty Pangolin
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are they filling baby teeth? Does that even need to be done? (I'm not a parent).

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    Mia Cardenas
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And they have the audacity to print it in red

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    NMN
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I process insurance payments, they do NOT pay that, there are several writedowns, exemptions, amount allowed in contracts (with the provider), and such. At the end, majority pay an average of 1/6 of the amount billed

    JeannevB
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So how much is the insurance in the first place? It should be made available for poor people?

    Luke Bouley
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Obamacare has mitigated much of that, though I believe there are gaps in coverage. anyone can apply for medicare(govt supplied healthcare) if they have low or no income, though im not sure what the approval rates are. As a middle class american, I think i pay somewhere in the $250/month range for coverage, and that usually covers half the cost of a visit.

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    Margaret Wellman
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's malpractice. You need to lay completely flat and not move any part of your body for over an hour.

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    Pretty Pangolin
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry that you have to deal with that. A few weeks after my dad died, I got a notice from a charity thanking him for his 'pledge' (He was in a nursing home with dementia and had no phone). I called them and ripped up one side and down the other.

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    Martha Meyer
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got a rabies shot here in Germany for 80 Euros. Insurance paid it back without asking questions even though it's not a required vaccine in Europe. The fact that I was travelling sufficed.

    Lillukka79
    Community Member
    5 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Finland for travel it's about 100€, but if it's the after exposure shot, it's free.

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    Hard 2 Guess
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I also had a pleasure to enjoy luxury Advil at ER; I still remember on the invoice it was listed as "Advil (1ct) ....... $75. Yes freaking $75 for 1 Advil tablet.

    Marcellus the Third
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    6 years ago

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    That first "$2600 for ER CT scan plus Advil nothing wrong with me" is somewhat nonsense --- you don't go to the ER if "nothing wrong" with you.

    Luke Bouley
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, nothing directly wrong with this person, but there can be times where a set of symptoms can result in an expensive series of test to rule out a serious potential issue. My wife was dealing with anxiety after a surgery, felt that she needed to go to the emergency room, and they eventually had to perform a CT scan just to make sure she wasn't going to have an embellism. she was perfectly fine, just so very stressed that the passed out during the scan from panic.

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    Dippin Dot
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And people wonder why in an emergency people are calling an Uber rather than an ambulance..

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    Daniela-Iulia Balaciu
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It"s something wrong in that country. ... and nobody sue the state? Are the people used with this treatment?

    Vicky Zar
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good old USA. Don't you know its the best country in the world? Everything is better there! EVERYTHING! And don't you dare disagree!

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    Dippin Dot
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    $970? I think that's pretty reasonable for a CT Scan

    Tara
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think the issue is that they had already paid their deductible but were still made to pay for the CT scan.

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    The Cute Cat
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Almost a milion USD for a CT Scan only?? Hell, are you buying the device or getting scan?

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    Pretty Pangolin
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Got some blood work done, then nearly a year later I got a finger-wagging letter from my doctor about how I'd failed to get these important tests done. She had never looked at them, good thing it wasn't something serious.

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    William Bonner
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they can't figure it out the first time, the redo should be free.

    Helle T
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For comparison I just want to put it here that the official rate that the Danish government pays for a CT scan is between 1800 kr ($265) and 2000 kr ($295), or as much as 2950 kr ($435) in the case of a heart scan with angiography. If this is what the government pays in a socialised health care system where the patient pays nothing (aside from taxes), there is no excuse for that kind of price tag, even if you think it is fair to add a rush fee for the emergency.

    Allison B.
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My appendicitis was so bad they didnt have time to do a CT scan. I went to the hospital in mass pain, and almost felt like I was dying. Couple of questions later, and I was whisked away to emergency surgery. The ER said I could of died if I tried to just go to sleep that night like I was trying to (my appendix was on the verge of busting open inside me, which can be lethal). I dont get how this can come back inconclusive? They didnt even need to do a CT scan to know that my organ was about to explode. This one is just interesting.... they normally dont wait to retest you if it can be lethal. Not at my hospital.

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    Erika Drewke
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    all of theese makes me sad but since I have MS myself and also gets infusiontreatments this feels too close. I am so sorry your country is batcarp crazy! In Sweden I pay about 120 USD PER YEAR of hospitalvisits and treatments, another 120USD PER YEAR for medication and if Im being hospitalised they charge an extra 8USD per night for food three times a day.

    Tara
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m so grateful you live in a country where you receive awesome care and you aren’t price gouged. It gives me hope for America. I’m not holding my breath, but there’s a flicker of hope.

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    Andrew Bridge
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    500 for drugs? What was it a kilo of cocaine?

    John L
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They probably charged and administered the name brand drug, rather than the generic. Assuming there was a generic.

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    Toni Carroll
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope you fought it. Medicaid is supposed to pay for everything and you are not to get billed. The ambulance company is at fault.

    queen...<3
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What the actual f**k is wrong with society! I am f*****g livid. I can't even upvote any of these because im soo disappointed in the hospitals.

    Daniela-Iulia Balaciu
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did they used an helicopter, or drove you across the country, or to another continent, maybe Europe?

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    Jeff Requier
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    dentist isnt covered in Canada either and would cost that much

    Daniela-Iulia Balaciu
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now I understand why people come here in vacation to treat their teeth.

    aussie snowdropper
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    s**t how much to pull that rotting tooth !!!!

    Koalamonster
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    200 dollars or so depending. That's how much mine was anyway. I'd gone in to the dentist because I was sure I'd cracked my tooth/ broken a filling, they charged me for xrays said the tooth was okay it was an ulcer on my gums- fine, okay I guess. Year later the infection was... big. They were quoting me the thousands to do the root canal, feet a crown, etc- I said can we just pull it out. I got... a lot of pressure from them. "We're in the business of saving teeth" they say. Sure, but I've no dental and if the option is a few thousand and maybe needing it pulled in a few years or just paying 200 and getting rid of the thing now.... technically I still have all my teeth, I just keep one of them in the drawer of my china cabinet.

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    Katinka Min
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    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just had root canal done in Germany. I opted for the version that is more modern than waht the public insurance pays. Three visit, around 45min - 60 min each, two people, a modern and well equipped practice - and a bill of 280€, at the end. I have no idea what is happening in the US with the prices for medicine. They are insane. Why not just go to a different country for anythign that is not an emergency??

    Tara
    Community Member
    6 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dental bills are a whole other issue that needs fixing.

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