PART 2: .. the level of care loved ones had for that person is not only a generalised and superficial explanation, but also damaging and dangerous

PART 1: This is an emotive topic for sure, and everyone is going to have different opinions and perspectives. In my view, as someone who has lost a sibling to suicide, have had several other loved ones attempt suicide, and having worked for a charity for people bereaved by suicide, I believe it's very damaging to blame other people for a suicide. In most of the cases I'm personally familiar with, there were loved ones who cared and did what they could to help. In almost of the attempted suicide cases I'm aware of, the person said they didn't think there was anything anyone could do to prevent the attempt. Even though progress is being made in normalising mental illness, there is still stigma attached to suicide deaths that can be very isolating to those left behind. Statistically, those bereaved by suicide have a greater risk of suicidal ideation themselves (at least one my country.) To imply that these people are in any way to blame, or that a suicide is a reflection on...

I agree with you, Arnoud. My darkest days have been spent in secret and no one had a clue how bad it was for me because I shut everyone out. Fortunately for me, I got better but I can absolutely see how someone could slip through. Very sad, indeed, but isn't necessarily someone's fault.

You are so so right

sorry this was ment to be a reaction to the reactions I got from the other comment

There are many medications for depression, you just need to find the right one

John did you know Kurt was in rehad a week before he took his life? he was in rehad cause his friends did an intervention.

William, I know clinical depression first hand. I've had it for years now and take medication as a result. And if you took the time to read my points you would know that I was not being critical of Cobain, but those around him who didn't take his problem as seriously as it warranted.

Oh, for heaven's sake! The man committed suicide, as a result of his inner demons and heavy drug use. And you think I am making too many assumptions about someone who definitely needed some Real Help? Are you sure you aren't the one making the most assumptions?

Gee thanks DUDE!! 1)They obviously didn't do enough: fact. 2)If he did see one, and never was admitted to more help, that psychiatrist should have lost his license. 3) A half-way proficient psychiatrist would have gotten him more help than he could have given. And 4) If they did care, they didn't care enough toput their caring into action. And quit using that Kaliforication idiom on others,.....DUDE!!